/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19971784]

> There are armies of 3rd world serfs working in these metropolises whose main job is to cushion and enable the lifestyles of millions of girlbosses doing email work.

God, I should have been a consultant, fuck me.

[Anonymous No.19971794]

Labor is a fucking scam, dawg.

[Anonymous No.19971801]

>>19971784
It's seriously based. I work maybe 20 real hours a week and pull 6 figures. Eating out on company dime weekly, getting drinks after work and not worrying about how much I'm spending.

[Anonymous No.19971817]

>>19971794
>When I was your age I got paid $8 an hour to stock shelves! You should be happy to get $12!"

The $8 an hour:

[Anonymous No.19971844]

>>19971784
No way Fisher wrote that. He was too cucked for it.

[Anonymous No.19971862]

Seriously though, your work is either creative and scalable or not and not, and only the former is capable of getting you to any better place than you are now but also relies heavily on there being more and more of the latter. You're either outsourcing to the technoserfs while occasionally stamping papers or sending emails or putting your microsoft office skills on fiverr and upwork.

Thankfully a massive amount of upward mobility still relies on 'can you update the pdf reader for cubicle boomers' and intentionally unplugging stuff so you can look really important to the operation when you say "I'll see what I can do, but don't count on anything today" then just plug it in two hours later after some Quake 3.

[Anonymous No.19971879]

>>19971817
The minimum wage in 1980 was $3.10.

[Anonymous No.19971892]

>>19971879
I’m not talking about the minimum wage, i’m talking about how certain people don’t understand purchasing power and inflation, whatever wage hike that does happen will due to inflation some bring back that lost value in confidence.

[Anonymous No.19971901]

>>19971879
My mom’s part time job while she was going to college paid the equivalent of $39/ hr today.

[Anonymous No.19971912]

>>19971844
He didn’t, his book though led me to more based conclusions that most lefty cucks (the consultants themselves) would otherwise avoid.

[Anonymous No.19971932]

>>19971784
>Working instead of being a corporate leech girlboss cruising through Globalhomo
Never gonna make it OP.

[Anonymous No.19971975]

>>19971784

[Anonymous No.19971982]

You see toilet cleaners I see future Doctors and Engineers

[Anonymous No.19971996]

Is that a real quote?

[Anonymous No.19971998]

I've read capitalist realism, what should I read next?

[Anonymous No.19972008]

>>19971784
Fuck Mark Fisher. Glad he's dead. Probably would support lockdowns too

[Anonymous No.19972013]

>>19971784
Take the tradepill my dude.
>can't be outsourced
>dumb immigrants can't flood in thanks to unions and certifications
>work is just creative enough to not be mind-numbing, but simple enough to not be exhausting
>will never run out of work because there's always more work to do and boomers retiring means there's a multi-decade long labor shortage
>worker's protections and safety standards are on point after all the boomers go injured lol
Yeah the girlboss doing email work is going to be handling your benefits and shit, but you're free to fuck her without office HR ninnies fucking you over because the guy turning wrenches isn't nearly as replaceable as an officedrone with a penis.

[Anonymous No.19972020]

>>19971879
That would be $10.58 in today's US dollars.

[Anonymous No.19972149]

>>19971996
No.

[Anonymous No.19972327]

>>19971784
This book is just Harry Potter for members of DSA

[Anonymous No.19972361]

>>19971784
You’re forgetting the best part: all these girlbosses wagie ragie, wasting the best years of their lives to cushion and enable the lifestyle of the NEETocrat through their taxes.

[Anonymous No.19972366]

>>19971784
Capitalism and fiat currency are opposites

[Anonymous No.19972379]

>>19972013
>will never run out of work because there's always more work to do and boomers retiring means there's a multi-decade long labor shortage
This can't be understated. All these older fucks are leaving and there is no one to fill the gap because these jobs got demonized by the middle class and boomers have been sitting on them for decades.

[Anonymous No.19972400]

[Anonymous No.19972407]

>>19972400

[Anonymous No.19972449]

>>19971784
You really should've, anon.
>get paid $200 an hour to write papers your boomer client doesn't even read
>use a template that took 4 hours to make, and spend 2 hours filling in the blanks for each client; charge each client for 6 hours anyway
>automate a monthly reporting task for a client, charge $300 per report to click a button that scrapes some excel data together and replaces variables in a word doc
>give pseudo-therapy to an executive (his marriage is crumbling) while on the clock
>get stock options in dozens of companies with better vesting schedules than employees
>don't depend on any one job for your healthcare
>set your own hours, work at 3am if you feel like it
>sit in phone calls with indians for 3 hours and point out what the poos are doing wrong, then recommend onshoring the work again, and watch them seethe when they get fired
My favorite:
>tell your client what they're doing is stupid
>knowing full well they'll ignore you and keep doing it
>walk away for 2 months
>come back
>everything is broken
>get paid $1k to say "i told you so" and give the same "what you're doing is stupid" speech again
>charge a higher rate because the client "showed themselves to be unreliable" and didn't give you your job the first time
The dumber your boss, the better your life. Consultants get to pick their own bosses.

[Anonymous No.19972470]

>>19971892
>whatever wage hike that does happen will due to inflation some bring back that lost value in confidence.
WHAT

[Anonymous No.19972473]

>>19971998
Marx

[Anonymous No.19972647]

>>19972400
>>19972407
Those people are delusional lmao

[Anonymous No.19972657]

>>19972327
Pretty sure Fisher is a no-go for DSA types after the whole Vampire Castle business

[Anonymous No.19972668]

I literally have a job interview tomorrow for a weite emails all day position, but I am not even a pretty girl

[Anonymous No.19972670]

>>19972657
>the whole Vampire Castle business
Explain

[Anonymous No.19972827]

>>19972670

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vampire-castle/

Basically, the online left has become obsessed with 'identity politics' over 'class politics'.

[Anonymous No.19972930]

>>19972827
fuck me that’s sad, what a soulless movement it’s become. They’re not even leftists, they’re just neo liberal tools that will dream their existence away

[Anonymous No.19972957]

Mark Fisher was a cuck, RIP Bozo.

[Anonymous No.19973023]

>>19971801
>It's seriously based. I work maybe 20 real hours a week and pull 6 figures.
How do you get a job like this? Being a parasite sounds like a dream come true.

[Anonymous No.19973047]

>>19972407
Holy shit lol this can't be real

[Anonymous No.19973115]

>>19973047
you'd be surprised

[Anonymous No.19973134]

>>19972407
They are honestly the funniest people ever

[Anonymous No.19973153]

>>19972407
Jesus

[Anonymous No.19973160]

>>19972407
I want to have a conversation with this type of person just to ask questions.
I want to see in real time what it looks like.

[Anonymous No.19973386]

>>19971784
This faggot killed himself, pathetic.

[Anonymous No.19974613]

>>19971932
>>Working instead of being a corporate leech girlboss cruising through Globalhomo
>girlboss cruising
>cruising
I can assure you that none of them are "cruising" through anything. They are all "burned out", "emotionally exhausted", and "just can't" anymore. The stakes have never been lower, and somehow this sort of bitch has been convinced that if her email work isn't perfectly on point the entire world will collapse.

[Anonymous No.19974641]

>>19973023
Here you go:
https://www.accenture.com/ph-en/careers

[Anonymous No.19974660]

>>19974641
lol Accenture is basically like working at a call center. They say it’s good to start your career but everyone I’ve ever worked with that came through Accenture was permanently scarred and had total and utter slave mentality. Only take a job there if it’s some internal position, if you work for one of their vendor accounts prepare your anus.

[Anonymous No.19974689]

>>19974660
kek thanks for the advice anon

[Anonymous No.19974691]

>make six figures at a large corporation
>work with a bunch of “older” women
>they coddle me and baby me
>low stress and expectations
>meanwhile they stress out, instigate drama between themselves, overcomplicate things
>consequentially job has absolutely no edge, nothings at stake
>did I game the system or just follow it to its natural conclusion?

This can’t be it until I die. I’ll self sabotage just to feel alive.

[Anonymous No.19974747]

>>19974691
you need to stop expecting any sort of purpose or fulfillment out of your job. finagle your position so you can wfh. start early and spend a few hours a day slightly exceeding the low expectations they have for you. spend the other 4-5 hrs being "available" but pursuing your own interests (reading, lifting, etc). Then, by mid afternoon, clock out and move onto what you actually care about in life. By 2:30 each afternoon I am hiking through the woods.

[Anonymous No.19974773]

>>19973386
He killed himself because Trump won

[Anonymous No.19974916]

>>19972957
This

[Anonymous No.19974918]

>>19974773
Good

[Anonymous No.19974961]

>>19971784
does this book say anything substantive or interesting? it seems very boring

[Anonymous No.19974967]

>>19971996
I like him, but his weak ass would never say it that bluntly

[Anonymous No.19974999]

>>19971784
You get to keep your soul, anon.

[Anonymous No.19975016]

>>19974613
This is true, their lives and mentality is so fucking pathetic they're basically labrats

They can't fucking define what they do.

[Anonymous No.19975022]

>>19972407
It's like a 4 year old explaining their idea of how society works

[Anonymous No.19975077]

i just wanna hatefuck some commie bitch while wrapping my hand around her neck as i climax, spitting in her face and saying fuck marx and fuck you

[Anonymous No.19975106]

>>19972400
Best part is their one potential Stakhanovite who actually is up for real labor and immediately gets shut down lmao

[Anonymous No.19975198]

>>19975077
Proof that right wing ideology is literally just sexual frustration.

[Anonymous No.19975205]

>>19975198
This is true. I also once saw a communist say they fantasized about rape, so I think we can assume communist ideology is literally just a desire to be dominated

[Anonymous No.19975293]

>>19975198
>>19975205
Most people have the reproductive compulsion to return to mudhuts and wood clubs.

[Anonymous No.19975633]

>>19972013
Do you actually work a trade? The manual laborer who makes it to 30 without chronic pain is the exception, not the rule. If your body isn't entirely fucked by retirement you've won the lottery.

[Anonymous No.19975718]

>>19975198
All political thought, at base, is a quest for that e-girl puss

[Anonymous No.19975790]

>>19975198
Most incels are left wing and non-white

[Anonymous No.19975828]

>>19975198
>one post on 4chan
>I can extend this to everyone

Yikes moment.

[Anonymous No.19975834]

>>19975633
Should have been a plumber instead of a mason

[Anonymous No.19975847]

>>19975834
>implying I would destroy my kneecaps while I can be a consultant living the easy life
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.19975852]

>>19972407
In the leftist commune I'd be a commissar in charge of shooting these people in the fucking head

[Anonymous No.19977352]

>>19971784
bump

[Anonymous No.19977356]

>>19974747
Based Department?

[Anonymous No.19977852]

>>19972407
bruh.

[Anonymous No.19978186]

>>19977852
they are delusional

[Anonymous No.19978255]

>>19972400
guarantee these people will all tell you the USSR was "state capitalism"

i'm not a communist but it is sad to see the vision and project that people all over the world fought and died for degraded to an inchoate neoliberal zoomer fantasy about the life of the world to come

[Anonymous No.19978273]

>>19975828
>Yikes moment

go back

[Anonymous No.19978302]

>>19978255
It was “state capitalist” or whatever you want call it. because they had peice-rate system, which was ironic because Marx described it as the the most capitalist form of wages. Is in Chapter 21 I think.

[Anonymous No.19978356]

>>19978302
>noooooo the heckin USSERINO wasnt marx's exact vision!

Thanks for confirming my thinking that "communism" in the West today is an intellectual exercise for zoomers trying to stave off the realization that lives and civilization are completely without purpose. The real communists are dead or drinking themselves to death to cope with the crushing defeat of the USSR and Communist International.

[Anonymous No.19978380]

>>19978356
>>noooooo the heckin USSERINO wasnt marx's exact vision!
I get your trying to be cute but thats what happened, why do you think Western Marxists and other people became disillusioned with the USSR and communism during the Cold War? it was a regime, mobilising the population via propaganda and an institutionalised public religion (Orthodoxy / Mialectical Materialism), ruled over by a caste of loathed bureaucrats (apparatchiks / Djilas' "New Class") with a secret police (Okhrana / Cheka). It was a nation-state with a dominant entry seeks to “russify” it’s client states much like the Imperial Russian Großraum. Nationalism spiked during those times, and thinkers on the West were trying to figure out what went wrong.

[Anonymous No.19979540]

You people are amusing. Life's just shit but /lit/s having a hell of a time it seems.

[Anonymous No.19979754]

>>19975633
do YOU actually work a trade? Anyone who doesn't eat shit food and drink 5 cans of coke a day is in the same shape if not stronger than the average office worker at the age of 40, don't be dumb
t. trade fag

[Anonymous No.19979766]

>>19972407
I don't understand this image? Isn't this what people literally do now? Bastiat had this wonderful exchange with Proudhon about exchange in a socialist society. This reminds me of that exchange.

[Anonymous No.19979770]

>>19978302
Communists like you are just sophists who just redefine communism every time it fails. You don't have a coherent theory. That's why retards like Lenin called the US Postal service an example of socialism. If you don't understand the fact socialism is one the biggest finesses in history at this point - you're a hopeless dumbass

[Anonymous No.19981074]

>>19975828
60% (the other 40% being one-word reaction-posts like "based" or "cringe" or "wrong") of posts on this website are this premise. Where do you think we are?

[Anonymous No.19981105]

>>19979770
>Marx becomes fiigurehead of communism
>Most Communist countries just follow in the likeness of Lenin, Mao, or Stalin.
If you think there is only one way to do Communism (or one way to do Capitalism, for that matter. I've seen countless libertarian types pull the "b..but the US isn't Capitalist, it's technically a mixed economy! My econ 101 said so!" These types would likely pull the same card in a 99% laissez-faire Capitalism economy that still had public schools or tax-funded Cops.), you are irreversibly retarded.
USSR was Communist, but it was a piss poor job at it. Essentially just a nationalist command economy with wages and gulags for Stalin to wank himself over.

[Anonymous No.19981113]

>>19975198
That wouldn't happened if we just legalized rape. Thanks to leftists men can't just go out and take women of their choosing. This is your, redditor.

[Anonymous No.19981119]

>>19981105
The difference is that those libertarians point to periods in the 19th c as a rough model of what they like. Communists have no model that has ever existed

[Anonymous No.19981149]

>>19981119
China and Cuba. China is the de-facto superpower of the world now. From backwater water to serfs to the productive capital of the world. They pulled the largest number of people out of poverty in history. Cuba has a higher home ownership rate and literacy rate than the US, and has universal healthcare and sends doctors all over world all while being under the harshest economic sanctions in the World. A capitalist nation would collapse under the same conditions, just imagine how Cuba would thrive if it was actually competing on equal levels in the global market. The USA does everything to stop Cuba from being the socialist success it could be. Compare China to India, and Cuba to any of their island neighbors, the difference is communist and marxist economics.

[Anonymous No.19981163]

>>19981149
China is not communism. You can claim they're heading there but they're not there yet. Most of their economy is private

[Anonymous No.19981176]

>>19981163
pretty convenient that any example of successful communism is not real communism. Technically, you are correct, so I guess its just socialism. The road to communism is a dialectical process. I'm sure you know this from the Marxist theory you read and all the capitalist theory you also read!

[Anonymous No.19981190]

>>19981176
Isnt communism a stateless classless society?

You can call china whatever you like but it will remain a majority capitalist economy for the time being

[Anonymous No.19981205]

>>19981190
you really know nothing if you think communism is a binary state of existence. Marx and Engles saw capitalism as a necessary phase towards the development of socialist and communist societies. You're really taking a big L here my guy.

[Anonymous No.19981209]

>>19981205
I know you have faith that one day the stateless classless society will exist. But in reality, today, no such society exists, and privately owned and traded capital accounts for the majority of China's economy.

[Anonymous No.19981215]

>>19981209
broken record...

[Anonymous No.19981250]

>>19981215
Your argument is "muh prophets say that this majority capitalist economy run by a dictatorship will definitely become a stateless classless society". I would feel bad for you if I didnt dislike you do much

[Anonymous No.19981280]

>>19974613
from what i have seen in those around me, this is common. the inability due to pandemic closures for city breaks and lunch in european cities has contributed to their hardship.

[Anonymous No.19982026]

>>19972400
>>19972407
Laughing emoji

[Anonymous No.19983055]

what do consultants actually do? just give advice? I knew a colleague that left our company to a consulting firm at 24. who the fuck is taking generalized business advice from a 24 year old

[Anonymous No.19984332]

>>19972008
he wouldnt. but he also wouldnt condemn them. In saying that ghosts of my life is insufferable

[Anonymous No.19984365]

>>19974747
Based advice and blessed digits.

[Anonymous No.19984537]

>>19972473
Why?

[Anonymous No.19986070]

>>19974747