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19893514 No.19893514 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck do people mean when they say "start with the greeks". Unironically I don't get it. Call me a newfag I don't give a shit

>> No.19893526

it is the beginning of the western canon (mainstream western thought that is the core of the enlightenment and our modern principles and attitudes)

>> No.19893531

>>19893514
newfag I don't give a shit

>> No.19893543

What they're really saying is start with the start, because the Greeks were the start. It's a tautology, you see.

>> No.19893566

>>19893514
start with the greeks

>> No.19893575

>>19893514
They mean read the books that influenced all the other books. You ever watched a film from a very specific genre and you didn't get it, but the autismos who eat and breathe that genre love it and can tell you every nod and wink to a precedent.
That's what they mean by 'Start with the Greeks' - stop being the guy who doesn't get it. Understand the difference between Forms, Substances, Atomism, the Humors, understand the different means of Enthymemes and the Sophistical Refutations you can use etc. etc.

>> No.19893584

>>19893514
don't follow the autistic chart that recommends you to read some modern analysis of Greek mythology
just read The Iliad, Odyssey, Lysistrata, Oedipus Rex, The Trial and Death of Socrates, The Republic, and Nicomachean Ethics plus some others if you really want to

>> No.19893641

The true redpill is to END with the Greeks.

Start with the Orientals. Ancient Egypt, Assyria, the Persians.
Greece is unironically where civilization ended. We have been a jewed up self-hating slave society ever since.

>> No.19893689

>>19893641
this is the equivalent of ending your education by the 3rd grade

>> No.19893708

>>19893689
Name one useful thing that you are taught past the 3rd grade.

>> No.19893715

>>19893708
Reading proficiency that allows you to understand Homer and Aristotle

>> No.19893718

>>19893708
independent research and writing (the formulation of thought)

>> No.19893725

>>19893715
You aren't taught that in school.

>>19893718
That's built into your genetics already if you aren't an NPC and you don't need to learn that in school. In any case, that's also not taught in school.

>> No.19893743

>>19893725
>That's built into your genetics already
no it isn't. genetically, your a whim chasing retard who goes with your first supposition on things. it's not disciplined thought. disciplined thought and examination of your ideas are an active process, which you cultivate
>that's also not taught in school
what do you think book assignments and essays are, you fucking monger

>> No.19893748

>>19893743
Essays are a joke. You aren't instructed to write original thought. You are expected to parrot what the teacher wants to hear, and if you think it works any other way than this then you are delusional.

>> No.19893753

>>19893748
you're a prime example of a retard who clings to his first supposition of things. educate yourself, nigger

>> No.19893767

>newfag
>nonlurker
>frogposter
Kys

>> No.19893773

>>19893753
I'm literally not wrong about anything ever. But keeping that your masters in philosophy will help you in life.