It’s up

[Anonymous No.19885470]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aOh_Ng0v1WE

[Anonymous No.19885490]

>twitter kulturkritik eceleb thread: redux

[Anonymous No.19885491]

>wojaks
>crypto/stock shit
>"meme"
>"wokeism"
Literally just gossip for losers and incels.

[Anonymous No.19885499]

>>19885490
>>19885491
Did you faggots sage the thread? Why didn't it get bumped? BUMP

[Anonymous No.19885508]

>>19885470

Say what you will but I will watch every singe one of his videos and enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.19885513]

>>19885508
I don't actually care for most of his videos, I just enjoy watching them because I think he's attractive and I like his accent. This one is actually really good though.

[Anonymous No.19885517]

>>19885508
>Say what you will but I always support my favorite creators on Patreon
I'm sorry about your AIDS diagnosis

[Anonymous No.19885530]

>>19885470
>Mfw I take chewable tablets from https://bluechew.com/

[Anonymous No.19885548]

While he brings up some interesting points, like the impact of technology on social movements, which is really not talked about enough, this video is ultimately another case of Keith not being as smart as he thinks he is. Ie first 10 minutes and he says
>CRT comes from the Frankfurt School
Really just not true. It comes from "whiteness studies" ie Ignatiev.

[Anonymous No.19885550]

leftypol plz
You know...
Porky
It's just the Jews.

[Anonymous No.19885557]

>>19885470
Redemption arc incoming.

[Anonymous No.19885566]

>>19885548
Also he way overestimates how big of a liberalizing effect uni has on students.

[Anonymous No.19885587]

>>19885470
Is he really a national bolshevik?

[Anonymous No.19885621]

All over this town
They pull over
In their Citroen vans
Not to shake your hands

[Anonymous No.19885656]

>>19885557
Redemption from what?

[Anonymous No.19885738]

>>19885470
>It’s up

[Anonymous No.19885761]

>>19885548
>Ignatiev was born Noel Saul Ignatin in Philadelphia, the son of Carrie, a homemaker, and Irv Ignatin, who delivered newspapers. His family's original surname, Ignatiev, was changed to Ignatin and later back to the original spelling.[1] His family was Jewish. His grandparents were from Russia.[
>He was best known for his theories on race and for his call to abolish "whiteness". Ignatiev was the co-founder of the New Abolitionist Society and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor, which promoted the idea that "treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity".[3
I'm surprised this guy isn't talked about more among /pol/ types

[Anonymous No.19885772]

>>19885470
Who is this sissy and does she have an only fans?

[Anonymous No.19885778]

>>19885772
you just know she got that gawk gawk 3000

[Anonymous No.19885782]

>>19885470
only thing good about him? his mysterious twink feet

[Anonymous No.19885793]

The only difference between stupid and smart conservatives is if they blame all of societies problems on Jews or if they blame them on "Bankers"

[Anonymous No.19885821]

>>19885761
/pol/ doesn't do research, they just obsess over whatever fringe theories get posted by their alternative media outlets.

[Anonymous No.19885859]

>>19885821
>their alternative media outlets.
Vaush and the young turks?

[Anonymous No.19885881]

>>19885587
he's a natsoc traditionalist

[Anonymous No.19886993]

Bump

[Anonymous No.19887057]

>>19885470
40k subscribers, why does this merit a post? fucking self-shill

[Anonymous No.19887059]

Why the FUCK are these self promoters allowed to keep placing stuff here without getting jannied? Moldbug is not /lit/, Kastrup is not /lit/, this fag YouTuber is not /lit/. You only post yourself here because you're a pseud who thinks "literature" is a "smart" place for your ideas.

[Anonymous No.19887068]

>>19887059
Yeah piss off back to faggot Vaush, lefty

[Anonymous No.19887086]

>>19885587
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzJ1afYabY

[Anonymous No.19887089]

Dear God, is this the zoomer brain? Criticism must be coming from some other eceleb fanbase? Vaush is a faggot and you are a faggot. You suffer from essentially the same disease with slightly different symptoms.

[Anonymous No.19887133]

>>19885470
watching this guy's videos blackpilled me on the left and how everything they do is in lockstep with the capitalists. only the right can resist capitalism now

[Anonymous No.19887157]

>>19887059
>Kastrup is not /lit/,
Well I don't buy his monistic idealism but what does that have to do with politics ? Metaphysics is clearly philosophy and being discussed here all the time.

[Anonymous No.19887160]

>>19887133
It would be better to step outside of the party system as it exists. Both sides play hands to the capitalists and only exodus would steer things otherwise.

[Anonymous No.19887168]

>>19887157
>what does that have to do with politics ?
Nothing at all, he's just another self-promoter who posts here. As more of this stuff is let to slide, the site will become more and more just links to youtube videos from the people who make them. At that point you might as well be on reddit.

[Anonymous No.19887198]

reported for advertising

[Anonymous No.19887282]

>>19885470
Keith, please let me suck your cock.

[Anonymous No.19887283]

>>19885513
I could destroy him with one punch

[Anonymous No.19887288]

>>19885793
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.19887299]

>>19887282
Take a number. There are a lot of Keith fags on /lit/ and I'm first in line.
>>19887283
Post physique

[Anonymous No.19887320]

>>19887299
post 23&me results

[Anonymous No.19887399]

>>19885470
"Wokism" is literally just the newest iteration of Liberalism institutionally employed to maintain its hegemony and absorb different groups of people into American domination. If he doesn't explain this in the video, he is wrong.

[Anonymous No.19887403]

>>19887160
I have this half baked notion in my head that the left-right delineation exists because of how personalities cluster. Leftists are usually empathic, idealistic collectivists whereas rightists are pragmatic and insensitive individualists. Both sides play into the hands of capital, as you say, but for different reasons. I'd find it very hard to believe the archetypal communist and the archetypal right libertarian could find any common ground because their personalities, and thus their ideologies, are so diametrically opposed.

[Anonymous No.19887432]

>>19887168
honestly if the content is intellectual, I'm okay with it, much better than the booktuber simps and other crap content on /lit/

[Anonymous No.19887537]

>>19885470
Good video especially in explaining how the orthodoxy evolved over time and how techonology feeds into it but I think you get better perspective on wokeness from dissident leftists since they've been in that social circle and are familiar with the people within.

Angela Nagle's appearance on Good Ol Boyz was really insightful, she frames wokeness as overproduced elites asserting their class interests by cancelling people so they can take their places within institutions. It's the 4th one down on this page (dated 2 Jul 2021):

https://www.owltail.com/people/WPhR1-angela-nagle/appearances

[Anonymous No.19887569]

>>19887399
He's explained this a number of times in different videos. You're not as smart as you think you are just for knowing liberalism and the American empire are bad.

[Anonymous No.19887573]

>>19887537
>Angela Nagle's appearance on Good Ol Boyz was really insightful, she frames wokeness as overproduced elites asserting their class interests by cancelling people so they can take their places within institutions
Has this ever actually happened though? It sounds like a nice theory but I'd like some actual examples.

[Anonymous No.19887583]

>>19887537
We need an alliance between the dissident right and the dissident left bros. All it takes is the left being more tolerant of the JQ instead of suddenly becoming lolbertarians arguing "muh individuals are different" when the ruling elite isn't playing by those same rules

[Anonymous No.19887585]

>>19887573
i listened to it a while ago, iirc they give a few examples that i can't remember off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.19887593]

>>19887583
This. They always have the most retarded copes that make it obvious they just don't want to talk about it. I.e; "You just wanna serve le white capitalists xd" as if we don't openly dislike them too.

[Anonymous No.19887597]

>>19887133
The far right has been reemerging in the West, which it does from time to time, as both a symptom of the decay of capitalism and also an accelerant of that decay. The protectionist turn recently for example is an attempt to throttle trade because the forces which global trade unleashed have run out of control. Also they want to overcome inner contradictions within the bourgeoisie by unifying them and the rest of society under a charismatic leader and so forth.

It's like Fantasia to use a metaphor. Mickey Mouse summons brooms to do work -- very useful --- but then the brooms multiply out of control, the contradictions run wild, until there are Too Many Fucking Brooms and they become very animated (and do all kinds of things which reactionaries don't like), so he summons the sorcerer (fascism) to turn the brooms back into unanimated, plain wood. Such contradictions today include the class orientation of economic liberalism and the inclusiveness of, or at least espoused by, political liberalism.

https://youtu.be/dYSFakz7Mcg?t=191

[Anonymous No.19887602]

>>19887597
>le capitalism in decay in [current year]
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.19887619]

>>19887569
I posted that before watching the video. Not trying to be smart, and it's not like most opponents of woke politics acknowledge that it's just liberalism repackaged. Most of them are literally liberals themselves, like Peterson.

[Anonymous No.19887621]

>>19887619
Ok fair

[Anonymous No.19887622]

I'm a Leftie, but I love him and all of his videos. Watched every single one.

[Anonymous No.19887628]

>>19887597
It's amazing how every time I see a random picture and a wall of text, I know it's going to be this fucking faggot who always writes essays about communism then posts a video of China at the end. You are predictable and boring.

[Anonymous No.19887630]

>>19887057
>40k subscribers
>still not banned

is he a fed?

[Anonymous No.19887677]

>>19887630
What would he get banned for? He rarely if ever talks about Jews, blacks, trannies, etc. on his YouTube channel. He did on his Twitter account, and that got banned a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.19887678]

>>19887628
Well I thought it'd be appropriate since Keith Woods is a China appreciator.

But the way I look at it, Western capitalist societies and particularly the U.S., the U.K. and some other places, are very unequal with a lot of concentrated wealth and power in a tiny number of hands. That has a deeply corrosive effect on society. At the same time, the political ideology of liberalism's legitimacy is based on its professed inclusiveness. That's a contradiction. So I think the results we're seeing is, on the one hand, a desperate attempt by some people who support the existing state of things to shore up liberalism by some very desperate faux-inclusiveness. On the other hand, there are others who have decided that the inclusiveness was never worth pursuing in the first place.

[Anonymous No.19887716]

He is 100% correct that this was all caused by the universal presence of smart phones and the Internet but I'm surprised he can't figure out why Tumblr especially contributed to it. Tumblr was the most democratic website on the Internet; you could post videos, images, gifs, blog posts, pornography, etc. It wasn't limited and it was easy to remain anonymous. Since democracy and liberalization inherently produces degeneracy, Tumblr is where a lot of the initial ressentiment caused by the Internet began and it quickly spread everywhere else. Of course, these liberal values were already ingrained in America to begin with and mandated by our ruling classes. Everything that has been said about race, gender and sexuality already comes from the 60s. But the Internet democratized it beyond just college campuses and activist circles, and the liberal system embraced it very quickly. By 2015 gay marriage was legalized and it was all downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.19887749]

The point about newspaper paywalls was good, I haven't thought of that before. But he glosses over the core of the issue, you can't just say wokeness is popular because of X and Y, there's something latent in our society that makes wokeness possible, that was lying dormant for a really long time waiting for something like wokeness to come along and bring it to life. We can push this on the elites for thrusting it upon us, but there's a reason it's so effective and it's not just because we see it a lot. Something that lies unseen in the hearts of the average Westerner, waiting to be re-examined.

Is it Christian morality? Well, who am I to suggest that...

[Anonymous No.19887751]

>>19887677
Do you know what specifically got him banned?

[Anonymous No.19887763]

>>19887749
>muh Christianity
People only bitch about this after the secularization of culture. When we were actually Christian people weren't cucked libshits, and those that were, were explicitly revolting against Christianity.

[Anonymous No.19887768]

>>19887678
Far right people who like China view it as fascist, not communist. Because there is wage labor and markets, no mass immigration, somewhat conservative socially etc.
>but it's actually le communist
I dont care, I'm just telling you why someone like this KW guy might like china. They absolutely don't like Maoist china because it didnt have the features I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.19887771]

>>19887751
No, it seemed pretty random. He hadn’t tweeted anything that seemed van worthy in at least a few weeks leading up to his ban. He had been mostly just promoting his videos and livestreams and arguing with Aimee Terese. I know his friend Joel got banned for seemingly no reason just a few days before him.

[Anonymous No.19887787]

>>19887749
People have pushed back massively against every step of the woke ratchet. Maybe 15% of people obsequiously obey and cheer for more; the rest are just beaten down.

Christian morality is not woke at all even if you read it as uber pacifism, which is not really orthodox. Woke are not pacifist or universally forgiving at all. There is another abrahamic religion that woke ideology actually does resemble: the righteous oppressed minority who hates the majority. I'm sure you can figure that out.

[Anonymous No.19887791]

>>19887432
>I'm okay with [4chan becoming another social media aggregator site for people to market for their patreons]
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.19887800]

>>19887787
Woke politics is just ressentiment. That's all it is. Nietzsche perfectly described how ressentiment works already and how it poisons everything in the modern world. He also pointed out that it comes from Christianity. So yes, the underpinnings come from Christian morality even if it's not entirely Christian anymore.

[Anonymous No.19887802]

>>19887791
Fuck off. Coomers constantly make threads to share pics and videos of their favorite female book tubers to coom to and nobody has a problem with it. But someone makes a thread for Keith Woods or someone similar, and retards come out of the woodwork to sperg out about it.

[Anonymous No.19887809]

>>19887800
I just pointed out to you which religion it actually resembles and why. Nietzsche is not an authority on christian morality whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.19887814]

>>19887771
Twitter is really finnicky. I got banned, no joke, for saying you should be allowed to hit bikers with your car.

[Anonymous No.19887826]

>>19887802
>Coomers constantly make threads to share pics and videos of their favorite female book tubers
I'm not ok with this either but at least those channels have fanbases. This is a 40k channel self-promoting what's essentially an opinion piece. If a new yorker opinion writer posted a link to their article, they'd get attacked and rightfully so. Remember to sage guys!
>>19887809
>Nietzsche is not an authority on christian morality whatsoever.
This, I don't get why he gets treated like his ubermensch, he was a mental guy. Not saying he's not interesting at times, but he's definitely not an authority on anything christian

[Anonymous No.19887834]

>>19887826
>This is a 40k channel self-promoting what's essentially an opinion piece.
It’s not self promotion. I made the thread and I’m not Keith.
>Remember to sage guys!
That’s okay, I’ll bump the thread for you.

[Anonymous No.19887846]

>>19885470
Admit it. You leftist faggots want to suck his twink dick.

[Anonymous No.19887848]

>>19887846
I’m a rightoid faggot that wants to suck his twink dick.

[Anonymous No.19887865]

>>19887716
I think you have a good analysis of the situation, so let me ask you how do we push back? And I mean in a significant and smart way not like the soldier that continued to stand guard when Pompeii blew off.

[Anonymous No.19887889]

>>19887716
Someone in the comments had a good take on tumblr

[Anonymous No.19887919]

>>19887865
You can't. I know that's not a good answer but it's the truth. Liberalism is the overarching philosophy of the modern world. If you want to stop woke shit, you have to get rid of Liberalism. That's not easy to do. There's also the fact that technological development inherently produces social liberalization; in illiberal countries like China and the UAE, they face a lot of the same issues with their populations becoming extremely individualistic and hedonistic. That's why recently you have China cracking down on K-pop, feminine men, and stuff like that.

I see all this as just the natural development of the values that created the modern world. They are inherently contradictory and false from the start. We will just have to live through the implosions of our systems since no one is willing to create anything new or reject the basic ideals of freedom -- not liberals, not socialists, no one. I have my own culture, religion and community which allows me to avoid most of this nihilism. But for everyone else, I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.19888199]

>>19887771
one of his last post he talked about international Jewry with a shamrock replacing the e in jew

[Anonymous No.19888261]

>>19885470
So I’m schizoid and really enjoy his videos. I was writing some fan fiction, but had one question. What kind of underwear do men in Ireland wear these days?

[Anonymous No.19888302]

>>19888199
Oh, I didn’t see that

[Anonymous No.19888308]

he is cute

[Anonymous No.19888312]

>>19888261

[Anonymous No.19888316]

>>19888261
He lives in the US (in one of his videos he says he doesn't live in Ireland but Virginia)

[Anonymous No.19888321]

>>19888316
Wait, for real? Do you know which video?

[Anonymous No.19888340]

>>19885587
No

[Anonymous No.19888343]

Why does Keith cause so much seethe here

[Anonymous No.19888349]

>>19888321
I think it's "On Work and Free Time" or "Why I Quit my Job"

[Anonymous No.19888351]

>>19887403
>left-right delineation exists
I dont think it's so simple as a one dimensional spectrum

[Anonymous No.19888357]

>>19888316
>Virginia
Uhh, Keithbros?

[Anonymous No.19888384]

>>19887716
>I'm surprised he can't figure out why
He talked about tumblr

[Anonymous No.19888402]

>>19887749
He's made two other videos on the topic. His argument is that the West currently has a philosophy of mind that posits the Self to be something independent of and unique from the body. Combined witb the ethics of tolerance and advancements of science and technology, people attempting to liberate their self from the contraints of the body with body modification. He thinks identity politics and trannies are just a step on the way to full blown transhumanism which will take religious form

[Anonymous No.19888405]

Why doesn't Keith lift? He literally looks like a twink.

[Anonymous No.19888409]

>>19887751
When the new ceo of Twitter took over there was a massive twitter purge. The formal excuse was that he was evading a previous ban, which Keith said was untrue

[Anonymous No.19888421]

>>19888302
yea it was so absurdly blatant I was surprised at how distraught he was when he got banned

[Anonymous No.19888422]

>>19887889
>The West is undergoing the Revenge of the Nerds

[Anonymous No.19888429]

>>19888405
Latina girls LOVE skinny, tall white boys

[Anonymous No.19888431]

>>19888405
What’s wrong with being a twink? He’s cute.

[Anonymous No.19888623]

>>19887593
>leftists when you say the names of the bankers

[Anonymous No.19888629]

>>19887583
There is literally no common ground lol
>capitalism is evil and must be abolished
>capitalism is fine but a mafia has taken over our countries
How do you propose reconciling these things

[Anonymous No.19888634]

Nobody on twitter is cooming over Keith but I come here and you're all homos. Also if you're a leftist watching him just accept the truth and become join the DR

[Anonymous No.19888648]

I don't agree with all of his takes (his views on China or Covid for example), but he's undoubtedly an intelligent and enlightening commentator.

[Anonymous No.19888777]

>>19888351
For sure. But as a first approximation I think it's adequate. Do you think it's too reductive?

[Anonymous No.19888813]

>>19885656
He was wrong about all the coof shit and pissed off a lot of people.

[Anonymous No.19888818]

>>19888777
Yeah it definitely is. Theres no real consistent metric for right and left. People will try to frame it as capitalism vs socialism, individualism vs collectivsm, or authoritarian vs libertarian. In American discourse at least if you take a position any more complicated than le big government vs small government people get extremely confused and dont know what you are. Hence why you have people like Dinesh D'Souza trying to reframe history by calling individuals like Hitler left wing. I remember back in 2015 one conservative radio show host, Mark Levin, called Trump a national populist and said his stances weren't consistent with free market, conservative values and is therefore left wing. Mainly because Trump was a protectionist, which is lefty economics apparently.
Because it's one dimensional it can only measure one trait at a time. If you deviate from Party orthodoxy and take a nuanced approach you enter this gray zone that just can't be marked down. Beyond merely topical issues or just labels of convenience relative to your culture the right/left paradigm is basically useless

[Anonymous No.19888828]

>>19885761
He is known there, was present on some infographics.

[Anonymous No.19888864]

>>19888629
>capitalism is fine but a mafia has taken over our countries
What do you mean by "capitalism is fine".
If you allow it, it''ll deconstruct everything that has hitherto given life meaning, value, and form, and reconstruct all that is so as to render it amenable to objectively and rationally quantifiable commodification. Capitalism has no inherent respect for your ethnicity, you nation state, you religion, or your cultural traditions. It's all just grist for the mill. Capitalism subordinates the spiritual to the material, quality to quantity, and all of nature, history and life to the logic of the market.

How can you people not see this? Everything you attribute to "kike meddling" is consistent with the logic of techno-capital. Unless you have the smoking gun that not only lays out that there is an organized effort by the elites to subvert your "real capitalism" for their own ends but moreover gives a reasonable explanation as to why on Earth they would do this, then as far as I'm concerned, a much better explanation of the crisis of the modern world is achieved by analyzing the structures and processes which underlie manifest social reality.

[Anonymous No.19888877]

>>19888818
I tend to interpret the left/right distinction in terms of time. The left is future oriented, the right is past oriented. The left is progressive, the right is conservative. Although this falls apart once you start getting into fascist futurism.

[Anonymous No.19888894]

>>19888877
Thats exactly the argument Dinesh D'Souza makes. He claimed Fascists were futurists and therefore progressive rather than conservative. And of course if you're not conservative you must be leftist.

[Anonymous No.19888908]

>>19888818
>Theres no real consistent metric for right and left
There's no such thing as a simple and accurate model for any sort of sociological paradigm. You have a highly nonlinear, high-dimensional space of possible political view embedded into a low-dimensional linear space. Let's think about what you've listed
>capitalism vs socialism
>individualism vs collectivism
>authoritarian vs libertarian
To make a realistic and consistent model you have to scale these dimensions relative to one another, explore sub-dimensions, and you end up with something very messy and intractable unless you're a computer.

Although there's flaws in the political compass approach as you rightly point out, I don't think it's useless or even harmful to invoke.

[Anonymous No.19889064]

A tip for any kind of Dissident Right figure like Keith Woods, who wants to use Twitter and keep it:
>never talk about transsexuals (there are people, who search for any tweet containing slurs like "tranny" or anything insulting and mass report it)
>don't talk about jews, blacks, other races in an inflammatory way
And then there is the most important thing, which sadly Keith Woods didn't do:
>you CANNOT interact with other Leftists on Twitter
>do not get into arguments with them
>it inevitably always leads to your account getting reported and banned

[Anonymous No.19889072]

>>19885470
I don't mind keef but stop making e-celeb threads, go buy an ad or something