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holy shit this actually makes sense. Any books that explains that explain the history on inceldom?

>> No.19875589

>>19875582
Vilar

>> No.19875616
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>>19875582
Yeah, that's pretty much the way it works.

>> No.19875622

>>19875589
+1
The polygamous sex in particular

>> No.19875651
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>>19875582
it's caused by fiat currency which is caused by

>> No.19876076

>>19875582
I used to read a blog called The Rational Male that was all about female hypergamy and mating strategies, the guy wrote a book by the same name but I haven't read it.

>> No.19876169
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>>19875582
Any society that upholds the principles of marriage undermines the "pussy cartel," as a wife can't leverage her ability to choose. ESPECIALLY when it comes to arranged marriage, then the only selection mechanisms are cultural.
This is why the institution of marriage is considered misogynistic. The instinct described in the OP, verbalized often as "sex work is work" (or smthn like that idk) can't manifest in healthy societies.
Sex "scarcity" (as you might describe it) is also upheld by Men, but for different reasons. When female chastity can be depended upon you can worry less about your lizard-brain female family-members going off and trading puss for shiny rocks; this protects your authority and the integrity of your lineage. To claim that muslim women wear burkas to increase the rarity and therefore value of their sex is ridiculous.
>leisure class
Of course spending your day sewing, cooking, cleaning, herding children, and whatever else is a very leisurely existence. In this day and age we underestimate how much work many women had to do; they deserved credit for their very substantial contributions to a prosperous household. Of course nowadays women have nothing to do at home, which is why they've gotten jobs.
So what I'm saying is the sex cartel manifests in decadent societies where "sex work" and "open relationships" aren't taboo; it has less to do with slut-shaming as it does dispensing sex strategically.

>> No.19876207

Reading these things always makes me physically ill. I'm too sentimental for these cold transactions. I've had one good relationship but most of my others have made me think it was a fluke. I'd rather die than be poached as a money mule.

>> No.19876487

>>19875582
>women become leisure class

I wish. I want a socitey that worships women. It's the natural arrangement that men can't forfeit.

>> No.19876497

in the land of the pussy cartel, homos are dissidents

>> No.19876528

>>19875582

One blog I used to read, "the anti-feminist", described the same concept as female sexual trade unionism. Some interesting ideas but the blog also contained creepy discussion regarding pedophilia. I realize that calling a line of thought "creepy" is itself a feminine tactic used to delegitimize it, but this particular blog really does read like a pedo apologia. I tried the url just now as I remembered it and it links to "onlyfans".

>> No.19877473

>>19876528
feminisim is anti-pedophilia so it only makes sense
theyre the sole reason age of consent isn't like 10 years old anymore

>> No.19877491

>>19877473
That's a misunderstanding. There was a social movement of that time in Europe, in which the ideas of Feminism, Progressivism, Christian Moralism, Eugenics, Temperance, anti-child labour laws and an increase of the age of consent were often combined. And many of these ideas were championed by women.

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>>19875582
Just fuck some bitch while you're young - to avoid later regrets - and stay celibate afterwards. Unless you're naturally dominant and masculine alpha male, taking part in 21st century dating market is pure masochistic cuckoldry.

>> No.19877523

>>19875582
damn

>> No.19877524

>>19875582
>Thus, lower status men went empty-handed or were urged to date less desirable women...
>date
Dating is a contemporary phenomenon. The vast majority of humanity never practiced anything resembling dating.

>> No.19877529

>>19877524
is this why i fucking hate dating? i fucking hate dating
>hey, go consume together in the hopes of having sex
>everyone's watching you
it's schizophrenic and perverse, just have sex and stop turning society into a porno

>> No.19877533

>>19877529
It's what women want, dating is complete submission to their demands

>> No.19877541

>>19875582
would prefer more epistemological takes than this but ok

>> No.19877552

>>19877503
Honestly this. Actually this is even worse today where the average girl is a filthy cumdumpster unless unfuckable. At this point in my life I know that I will not experience sex with attractive young girls again as I did in my better years, and even if I found a girl willing to have sex with me right now that my body is falling apart, she'd be probably too distant from me to be attractive intellectually, and probably too expensive since as of 2022 all women attractive enough to have sex with are literal prostitutes. The last few dates I've had many years ago left me shocked with how unabashedly whorish they were. When you'd meet a filthy slut back then she'd have a little bit of shame about being a slut. They'd at least know they were not in a good spot. Now they're proud of it and if you feel disgusted they think you're weird.
I guess that if you're a teenager today it's impossible to feel that young person love anymore, I know I would never have feelings for the horrible gremlins that women have become (or revealed themselves to be in this century, I don't care about your interpretation of the female mind), so the only factor is the sex. Sex is overrated. Just say celibate. If you really want to experience sex because you're a frustrated virgin just pay off a supermodel tier hooker once, blow a couple grand on it and then go celibate. Occasionally jerk off to the memory of her sword-swallowing skills and that's it. Women in more conservative times were definitely not as good at sex as the girls today which I imagine are closer to working prostitutes and pornstars but I imagine that prostitutes are probably still more eager to please than women because money is on the line. I don't like hookers nor I would go with one, but at this point they're a cleaner deal than dating actual women.
I know this post gives off incel vibes or what you wanna call it but the state of women right now is truly fucking sad and I used to date in already degenerate times. Zoomers aren't even human to me.

>> No.19877555

>>19877552
Excellent post

>> No.19877571

>>19877529
>>19877533
I agree. But the irony is that it hurts women as much as men. Men are forced to put on an act, and who puts on a better act than a liar? Also, it sets up unreasonable long-term expectations; dating (as conceived by many girls) requires these intense short-term investments of time and money which are simply unsustainable.

>> No.19877577

>>19877571
>unreasonable long-term expectations; dating (as conceived by many girls) requires these intense short-term investments of time and money which are simply unsustainable
Dude it's literal food and drink and drugs prostitution. Holy fuck you're even dumber than a woman

>> No.19877612

>>19876207
No one likes this, normalfags are just too brainwashed to formulate criticisms against the system.

>> No.19877639

>>19877503
>>19877552
yeah thanks for telling us what we all already know you need to fuck a bitch when you're young to get it out of your system sooner rather than later, otherwise you're fucked
lotta good telling us this now does.

>> No.19877655

>>19875582
Houellebecq was right, deregulation of sexual market makes way to the natural fact, that there are winners and losers to every sphere that doesnt have some supervision. Incels are the losers of todays sexual market. From there follows a kind of disrepancy between society that preaches the ideal of equality on the one hand, and does everything to increase inequality (by accepting and promoting whoredom) in sexual market on the other. Liberals want to think that by decreasing regulation in the sphere of morals we will arrive at some kind of utopia, but in reality it just serves the interests of minority of brainless men and roasties. Smart men should be in control of moral creation and society regulation again.

>> No.19877661

>>19877552
>lost my virginity to a hooker when I was 21
It ended before it even began.

>> No.19877662

>>19877655
I think he's alright but I wonder if there is any other authors that go about this in a more philosophical (read: non fiction) way

>> No.19877665

>>19877662
vilar

>> No.19877691

>>19877639
Hey, don't shoot the messenger!

>> No.19877735

>>19875582
>SEX SEX SEX PUSSY CUM CUM WOMEN ASS ASS ASS SEX CUM PUSSY CUM SEX INCEL INCEL KEK ALPHA BETA SEX SEX CUM WOMEN SEX SEX BOOBS ASS ASS BOOBS BETA ALPHA CUM INCEL SEX SEX SEX
Can you fucking retards think about anything else or are you payed by the post?

>> No.19877760

>>19875582
Please. Stop posting these pictures. I already feel bad about myself.

>> No.19877767

>>19877735
>Can you fucking retards think about anything else
No. As the saying goes, what people lack is the spoken topic.

>> No.19877939
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>>19877735
no we can't think about anything else fuck you

>> No.19877963

If it's true that women are more likely to reproduce then there'd be an evolutionary advantage in having daughters. Boys and girls are split 50:50 so it doesn't make sense

>> No.19877975

women are more likely to reproduce because there is a 50:50 split
if there starts being more women it becomes less favorable until it's back to this 50:50 split

it's self correcting

>> No.19877982

>>19877963
>>19877975
It’s fifty fifty because women can’t defend themselves against the elements and predators.
Humans became a species with two genders because it was more advantageous to have members specialize.

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>>19877552
Go to Thailand and bang young whores. Accommodations are dirt cheap and so are the women. A 4 star hotel near the whore district costs less than $25 USD per night, I'm not kidding. The only the to break Western woman's death grip on the sexual marketplace is to stop giving them attention and validation. Take the whore pill.

>> No.19878008

>>19877984
wrong
the only way is for everyone to just start raping for for all the law enforcement (predominantly male) to just turn a blind eye
being forced out of your home country and having to exile yourself to the far corners of the globe all to pay ugly SEAmonkeys just to get stds from them is NOT winning

>> No.19878053

>>19877963
You have 2x as many female ancestors..

>> No.19878095
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>>19877963
Havent you noticed that effeminate fathers tend to have alot of daughters, if not even only daughters?
Men that get exposed to higher levels of radiation (therefor suffer higher mutagenic load therefor are less likely to produce competitive male offspring) also birth more females. Im sure theres some kind of undiscovered evolutionary mechanism here that recognizes that its male offspring likely wont have reproductive success and opts for the less "profitable" but more "secure" variant of continuing your line via daughters.
The reproductive advantage of men is that they can reproduce alot more than women. A woman can carry about a baby a year for lets say 30 years if shes nothing but a broodmare. A man could impregnate 1000+ women a year (also carrying the benefit of increased genetic diversity). However reproductive success of a woman is pretty much ensured meanwhile male reproductive success is "all-or-nothing". Its also self correcting as other anons pointef out.
Just replace the x axis on pic related with reproductive success.

>> No.19878116

>>19878008
Don't you have whores in your own country then? Literaly all you have to do is to look for desperate unemployed collage girls and you'll find yourself with cheap topshelf pussy.

>> No.19878186

>>19877984
No, I said I disapprove and even more so of sex tourism, shit's fucking gross man.
I never really wanted sex throughout all my life, I wanted a more complete relationship. This is impossible to have now. I only mentioned whores because sex is pretty much all there is to gain from a woman today, and I'm not speaking from the position of a virgin because I'm not one and I don't know how it feels to never have had sex or intimacy. So if someone wants that, I say that going with a whore right now is no different than banging some chick off Tinder except you're paying.
Personally I'd rather stay celibate than enslaving myself to hookers.

>> No.19878423

>>19878095
Aside form the thing about effeminate men and irradiated me having more females, basically what you just described is the Triver-Williard Hypothesis
fell out of favor when they discovered that the baby's gender is determined by the sperm's genetic makeup, which meant that it was the male that decided the gender, and that meant that it couldn't be decided upon by the woman (as per the trivers-willard hypothesis)
or so they thought

but recently they discovered that the eggs decide which sperm they want to get fertilized by so that means the ball is back in the woman's court, and the trivers-williard hypothesis should be back on the table. Though aside from that, the hypothesis is still in the hypothesis stage. The observations and formulations to lead to it is kinda shaky, but it is a sensible hypothesis.
And there have been a good few studies shown that women are more likely to have a girl in times of stress, which lends credibility to it imo