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19869619 No.19869619 [Reply] [Original]

Since /sffg/ is unusable for the moment and near future due to shitposts and trolls with mods doing nothing to stop it, I want to know how good gunpowder fantasy is. Is it just a passing fad or something more? Unlike regular fantasy which focuses on middle ages, gunpowder fantasy focuses on the Napoleonic era, something that’s interesting. Will it surpass regular fantasy one day?

>> No.19869981

>>19869619
I mean it's interesting to create fantasy settings that draw upon historical influence other than Medieval Europe. I'm sure it's not the best example, but Alloy of the Law, Shadows of Self, and Bands of Mourning by Brandon Sanderson are set in a parallel to late 19th to early 20th century United States.

>> No.19870431

>>19869619
>Since /sffg/ is unusable for the moment and near future due to shitposts and trolls with mods doing nothing to stop it,
Does /lit/ even have mods or jannies at this point?

>> No.19870530

>>19870431
/lit/ has at least one dedicated mod and several jannies

>> No.19870633

>>19870431
Yes and they are chill as far as I can tell.

>> No.19870645

Have never heard of it, but now I am curious as well if there are any good books of the genre

>> No.19870671

>>19870645
>but now I am curious as well if there are any good books of the genre
Try reading Powder Mage. It's literally the Napoleonic Wars, if Napoleon had won.

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The obvious example is the Powder Mage trilogy, and its sequel series. It's probably the best that I've personally read in the genre.
Another would be The Waking Fire by Anthony Ryan.

I cannot stress enough that if you like the genre, you SHOULD NOT read anything by Django Wexler. She (I'm 99% certain it's a woman writing under a male name) baits people in with an interesting Gunpowder fantasy premise then hard pivots into cringeworthy teenage lesbian romance in EVERY one of her series. I'm not even kidding, ALL of them.

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>>19870671
>YOU CAN BECOME THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD.

What if you discovered a secret society living among us? A powerful society split into seven psionic orders, each controlling a separate area: minds, flesh, force, truth, machinery, beasts, or the arcane.

And suppose you were the only person on earth who could control all seven psychic energies. All you need is a teacher from each order.

Seven orders. Seven amazing powers. Seven beautiful teachers.

Would you seek these women, unlock your powers, and destroy your enemies?

Yes, you would.

But you’d better hurry.

Because everyone is after you. All seven orders. A shady government bureau. The psionic mafia. And they’ll use any weapon, from guns to psychic attacks to seductive sex, to stop you.

It’s time to get tough, grab hold, and unleash the beast!

Warning: Power Mage is the first book in an explosive series containing graphic violence, explicit sex, and a harem of gorgeous women who wreak serious havoc with their minds. Read at your own risk.

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>>19871498
Was that actually funny in your head when you typed it out?

>> No.19871837

>>19871402
Shame there’s no more books.

>> No.19872868

>>19871498
That’s a different book.

>> No.19872892

>>19871498
AMOGUS

>> No.19872902

Can we discuss fantasy here too? The mexican autist has unironically replied 10 times to the same post, which I suspect he posted to begin with.

>> No.19872913

>>19872902
That guy is now just copying goodreads reviews and posting them as replies.

>> No.19872934

>>19872902
>>19872913
You fags really destroyed /sffg/.

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>>19869619
It sounds like a great idea to me but will probably be burned out very quickly due to how rapid the media cycle is now, things become popular for a couple years then fade into obscurity until nostalgiafags bring it back in a more soulless update

I am a big enjoyer of Robert Louis Stevenson and my fantasy novel is basically a 19th century boys adventure with supernatural elements.

>> No.19872943

>>19872934
No, you did. Do your part. I surely did mine.

>> No.19872953

>>19872934
Nobody gets to enjoy /sffg/ until bakker fags post somewhere else

>> No.19872956

>>19872953
I was enjoying it until the schizoid took over. And I don't even like Bakker.

>> No.19872971

>>19872956
Then why should bakker schizoid get to post the same shit over and over and over? Where are the jannies? Where is the moderation? There is a rule to making quality posts on this board is there not?

>> No.19872972

>>19872942
Man, naval fantasy needs to undergo a rebirth. That shit is to good to die out.

>> No.19872988

>>19872971
You're here too? Jesus fucking Christ. Get a life, you loser. Bakker memers are harmless.
If you get triggered by someone saying "king of /sffg/ simple as", you should unironically seek psychiatric help.
Now, fuck off.

>> No.19873012

>>19872988
You don't stop with "king of /sffg/" you keep samefagging over and over and over. You make about 20 posts per thread saying the same cringe shit. Then you start writing poems that are very very bad about how much you like Bakker. WE GET IT. WE GET YOU LIKE BAKKER. Other anons don't spam the things they like over and over. Look at Insanity poster, he posts the book and says nothing. Be like that anon. It's not annoying as fuck like you.

>> No.19873158

>>19872942
>It sounds like a great idea to me but will probably be burned out very quickly due to how rapid the media cycle is now, things become popular for a couple years then fade into obscurity until nostalgiafags bring it back in a more soulless update
Gunpowder fantasy has been a. Thing for almost a decade and it’s still unknown to the world. I doubt it can run to the ground so fast.

>> No.19874215

>>19872942
Sounds like a good book idea anon keep us updated

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>>19869619

>> No.19875386

>>19875367
What's it about?

>> No.19875400

>>19875386
>Captain Marcus d’Ivoire, commander of one of the Vordanai empire’s colonial garrisons, was serving out his days in a sleepy, remote outpost—until a rebellion left him in charge of a demoralized force clinging to a small fortress at the edge of the desert.

>To flee from her past, Winter Ihernglass masqueraded as a man and enlisted as a ranker in the Vordanai Colonials, hoping only to avoid notice. But when chance sees her promoted to command, she must lead her men into battle against impossible odds.

>Their fate depends on Colonel Janus bet Vhalnich. Under his command, Marcus and Winter feel the tide turning and their allegiance being tested. For Janus’s ambitions extend beyond the battlefield and into the realm of the supernatural—a realm with the power to reshape the known world and change the lives of everyone in its path.

https://www.amazon.com/Thousand-Names-Shadow-Campaigns/dp/0451418050

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>> No.19875867

>>19875801
That’s alternate history.

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>> No.19876021

>>19876011
I keep seeing Adrian Tchaikovsky on /sffg/ but was never discuss due to spam, is he good?

>> No.19876128

>>19876021
He isn't cringe. He isn't great. His style is of that forgettable but inoffensive gun-for-hire type, the kind you get writing Starwars, or 40k novels where the deciding factor isn't the author but if you care about the setting they are writing in or not.
If you like Gunpowder fantasy then you will have an alright time with that book, if you like high fantasy with bugpeople you will like most of his other books. If you don't like those things then he isn't going to win you over with his prose or characterization either.

>> No.19876168

>>19876128
You got any recommendation for his books? Where should I start first?

>> No.19876186

>>19876168
Guns of Dawn if you want the thread theme.

Most of his books are about bugpeople, he is obsessed. He has both a Scifi and a Fantasy series about bugpeople lol. If you want the Scifi go with Children of Time, however if you want the Fantasy read Spiderlight, its a standalone and will give you a feel for his schtick, if you like what he is bringing then you can check out Shadows of the Apt which is the big bugpeople fantasy series of his that is like 10 books.

>> No.19876200

>>19869619
Attack on Titan is gunpowder then later WWI fantasy, there’s 3(?) light novels published as a supplement to the manga and show

>> No.19876286

>>19876186
Thanks, I'll read Spiderlight first then Guns of Dawn. Children of Time seems interesting.

>> No.19876316

>>19875386
Teenage lesbian romance drama. I'm not even joking.

>> No.19876365

>>19876200
And AoT sucks dick. It’s just soap opera and sentimentality thrown into violent battles against big people.

>> No.19876407

>>19876316
Sounds based.

>> No.19876622

>>19876407
It isn't. It's cringe girl power nonsense and the entire fate of everything depends on the relationship. All male characters are either incompetent or evil or just straight up forgotten about.

>> No.19876837

>>19869619
why is sffg unusable? I am out of the loop as I was banned for a month

>> No.19876888

>>19876837
bakker schizoids are posting the same shit over and over and again killing any and all discussion.

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>tfw The Guns of Empire didn't end with Janus siezing power, overthrowing Raesinia and proclaiming himself Emperor so that he had a free hand to continue his crusade
The Thousand Names was good but Django pussied out from making Janus a villain mid-way through the series

>> No.19876925

>>19876894
That should have been clear by the 2nd book that the series was trash. It's split between an immortal princess plotting her own removal from power and a girl having dates with her old flame from the nunnery (who somehow became the queen of the gangs in the city)

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>>19869619
The only gunpowder fantasy worth reading.

>> No.19876961

>>19876837
It isn't. There are a couple of people who have been mindbroken by people posting Bakker memes, but the 99% of the thread is just people discussing whatever they like.

I suspect the whole "sffg is dead" is a hyperstition being pushed by someone who does want it dead.

>> No.19876969

>>19876961
Is bakker actually a good author? Never read his stuff

>> No.19876974

>>19876969
He's an author who believes very strongly that what he's writing is Important

>> No.19877004

>>19876969
Unless you want to read about a literal cuckold, I wouldn’t read him.

>> No.19877108

>>19876969
Yeah. I like his books, but I admit they are not for everyone. They can be slow, and are unrelentingly miserable, but at their best they carry that vast mythic quality which is hard to describe but makes me feel like a kid reading The Hobbit for the first time.

>> No.19878632

>>19877004
>actual cuck shit
Terrible.

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>> No.19879669

>>19871498
kek

>> No.19879697

>>19871402
Who makes the covers for this shit?

>> No.19879712

>>19875867
...with dragons

>> No.19880780

>>19879712
It’s just alternate history.

>> No.19880863

>>19876622
Sounds based.

>> No.19882189

>>19876365
>And AoT sucks dick
Only the ending

>> No.19882219

>>19869619
Dam, can you imagine making fantasy about an era of history that has plenty of good novels of its own.

>> No.19882931

>>19876186
Guns of the Dawn is excellent. Tchaikovsky really knows how to write suffocating battle scenes. Great ending.

>> No.19883102

>>19875801
This was written by a woman and therefore I will not read it.

>> No.19883110

>>19883102
You don't read to begin with.

>> No.19883121

>>19883110
I don't buy video games to begin with, either.

>> No.19883357

gunpowder fantasy is shit

>> No.19883360

>>19869619
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell is set during the Napoleonic Wars

I've not read it, but Clarke's other book is pretty good and it was popular enough to get a miniseries adaption

>> No.19883539

>>19877108
are they anything like hyperion? I know hyperion and its sequels are controversial but I really enjoyed how both books felt like a long adventure

>> No.19883585

>>19883539
>are they anything like hyperion?
No

>> No.19883593

>>19883539
Both the first and the second series are based around crusades of a sort, so yeah you very much get that feeling of muddy boots marching toward achingly distant horizons. I think he realizes it is one of his strengths and leans a little too hard on it at points, at times it can feel like little progress is being made (especially in the first 2 books of the second series), but boy do you feel like you have been on a quest by the end.

The slog of slogs!

>> No.19883990

>>19880780
and fantasy