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What are some books that deserve more attention?

>> No.19861541
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>>19861520

>> No.19861618

>>19861520
My manuscript, desu.

>> No.19861650

>>19861618
f-a-m
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>> No.19861711

>>19861618
Okay, post it

>> No.19862457

>>19861520
How many of those have you read? I've read The New York Trilogy by Paul Auster, Speedboat by Renata Adler, The Tunnel by William Gass and No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai. I haven't read anything in the fourth row. I think I will read Television by Jean-Philippe Toussaint because it doesn't seem like a downer. Also the first, third and tenth books in that row I have no idea what they are.

>> No.19862778

>>19862457
i've read la coscienza di zeno and il deserto dei tartari in italian, breton's nadja, the tunnel and hopscotch. i've also read quite a few bruno schulz short sories but not the street of crocodiles collection. i own a copy of no longer human but haven't got around to reading it yet. also a few of the covers are quite illegible.

>> No.19862885

>>19861520
>implying Gass isn't canonical
>implying Beckett isn't canonical
>implying Svevo isn't well known
>Nabokov

pic is all over the place.
A lot of the beat authours are seriously overlooked, most people point to Howl, On The Road and that's it

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>> No.19862901

>>19861520
Lazarillo de Tormes

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>> No.19863000

>>19861520
Robbe-Grillet is tragically overlooked

>> No.19863012

>>19861520
What's the last book on the first row? I saw that cover on a thread the other day but I don't remember what the name of the book is?

>> No.19863019

>>19863012
Moravagine

>> No.19863032

>>19861520
Read Zeno's Conscience and can confirm it's based.

>> No.19863068

>>19861520
The pledge by Friedrich Dürrenmatt

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>> No.19863317

>>19863083
interesting, is he the best writter in Chile?

>> No.19863325

>>19861520
They deserve more resolution

>> No.19863416

Read William Gass's A Temple of Texts first.

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>> No.19863442

Pretty solid and almost unknown compared to the canon.

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>>19863442
forgot the picture

>> No.19863494

>>19861520
Is this your chart OP? Excellent selections.

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Reminder that the guy who made that chart also ultimately made a bigger, revised version that removed some good books for no fucking reason.

>> No.19863682

>>19862901
based
i wish the book was longer, though

>> No.19863686

>>19862897
one and only. i love isherwood so much, bros. it almost hurts.

>> No.19863728

>>19861520
None of those books are minor classics that deserve more attention, you massive faggot

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>> No.19863904

>>19863675
what are the good books he removed?

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>> No.19864408

>>19861520
Lookout Cartridge
Women and Men
Plus
The Conversions
The Sinking of the Odradek Stadium
Mulligan Stew
The Age of Wire and String
Notable American Women
Airships
Ray
The Guyana Quartet

>> No.19864742

>>19863891
Is this book really as good as what people make it out to be?

>> No.19864754

>>19861520
>Rayuela
>minor classic
Eh, depends on your region. Here in LatAm it's pretty well known.

>> No.19864760

>>19862885
Correct, Gass is not canonical. Or maybe in he is but in youe headcanon.

>> No.19864787

Is anyone going to explain the reasons for their choices or just list them off as if everyone who opens this thread will know what the books they mention are about? I mean c'mon, the OP asks for non-canon, obviously no one besides you and your mom are going to be familiar with some of the books you're listing

I hate threads like this; just a lazy grocery list.

Only 1% of these posts get a (You) so I can't be the only one thinking this. Truly anon, how many of the books listed here are you familiar with? Are you REALLY going to google a book youve never heard about based on just the TITLE? No? Then why the fuck bother replying in these threads? So fucking lame, and the idiocy is tenfold in an "overlooked classics" thread.

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I made this pic a couple years ago. I'll make a new better one soon.
>>19863000
True
>>19863032
based
>>19863675
I made the pic. I get to remove books that I changed my mind about.
>>19863728
How would you know? It's not like you've read any of them.
>>19864408
Mulligan Stew is great, just finished it.

>> No.19864876

Sometimes a Great Notion

Tropic of Cancer

Germinal

Memoirs of Hadrian

>> No.19864912

>>19864868
How do you justify removing Speedboat?

>> No.19864926

>>19864912
I just forgot to add speedboat to the second one. Its a great book tho.

>> No.19864935

>>19864926
Ah, well don't forget it in the next revision. More people need to read it.

>> No.19865017

No Longer Human was awful and I'm glad it gets shit on most times it's brought up.

>> No.19865649

Every now and again there's a thread like this and I post "Studs Lonigan," by James T. Farrell. I still have yet to see a thread started by somebody talking about either the book or the author. Nobody seems to be interested in reading him and it's a shame because he's a good writer with a lot of work to read.

>> No.19865652

>>19865649
Same with Huasipungo/the villagers for me.
Let's do something show me you somehow bought/torrent my book and I'll do the same for you and we'll discuss each other's book here live

>> No.19865663

>>19864742
It’s good if you’re willing to put up with extended Tristram Shandy style tangents, and I dare say it has more of and a better plot than Tristram Shandy. If you temper your expectations you will be surprised I think. Just don’t think it’s Buddenbrooks or anything, but don’t dismiss it as mere “provincial” literature either

>> No.19865674

>>19863682
Yeah me too, for the time it did well, bring the first picaresque novel. I still think it was very good, bit if it was more fleshed put it could have rivaled Don Qujote

>> No.19865683

>>19861520
I know I’m responding to someone who likely posted in good faith, but I have to push back a little here on any notion that this can entirely replace the so-called classics. I would rather say that the listed titles made great classic ADJACENT books, and should not be seen in any way as replacing the ur-texts that many of those books took inspiration from, whether consciously or unconsciously. Zeno’s Conscience is a great book for example, but I cannot seriously say that it’s better than Ulysses or that you should just read that and “fuck Ulysses”, because indeed Svevo was good friends with and was influenced by James Joyce. Rather, those two books, Zeno’s Conscience and Ulysses, would be best read in tandem, and thus impart the greatest possible effect on the reader

>> No.19865749

>>19863675
Motorman sounds right up my alley, I'll definitely be giving that a read

>> No.19865758

>>19865683
You seem like you are far to literal and autistic for fiction.

>> No.19866026

>>19865758
Yeah you’re probably right, I have no rebuttal there

>> No.19867080

>Joseph Walser's Machine
Hm.
But what are anons opinions of Robert Walser?

>> No.19867598

>no longer human

Literally one of the most popular novels. Everybody that's trying to sound hip says this is one of their favorite novels. The real esoteric book is Dazai's collection "self portraits". Not only is it way better than No longer human, it's also the best short story collection ever written.

>> No.19867622

>>19867598
>self portraits
I found nothing with that title.

>> No.19867641

>>19867622
https://www.amazon.com/Self-Portraits-Stories-Japans-Writers/dp/4770016891

>> No.19867824

>>19865017
No longer human is class, wdym

>> No.19868845

>>19864868
> How would you know? It's not like you've read any of them
This is just you projecting your insecurities

>> No.19868871

>>19862457
>The New York Trilogy
>Herzog
>The Street of Crocodiles
>Invitation to a Beheading
>The first of the trilogy in The Sleepwalkers
>>19862897
Is this part of the collection that's had a few names about the Weimar years? The version I've got is called Goodbye to Berlin

>> No.19868914

Jakob von Gunten
The invention of Morel
The Loser
The moon and the bonfires
A man asleep
Nobody nothing never
Austerlitz
Soldiers of Salamis
Conversations in Sicily
The truce
Diary of a country priest

>> No.19870034

>>19861520
Rubaiyat. Never seen a thread discussing it here

>> No.19870119

>>19861520
>Three novels by Beckett
Pretty sure it's quite canon here, but anyways
>Thomas Bernhard - Yes
>Miguel Ángel Asturias - The President
>Patrick Modiano - In the Café of Lost Youth
>Ryszard Kapuścinksi - The Shadow of the Sun
>Felix Lope de Vega - Fuenteovejuna

>> No.19870554

>>19863675
what's with every online hipster's love of the tartar steppe? Un Amore was incredible ... beyond words... but tartar was pure pain

>> No.19870565

>>19870119
Yes was my first Bernhard novel. I found it at Goodwill actually. I'm grateful for all the niche things I actually find there. I have since read The Loser and I plan on reading a book of his once a year.

>> No.19871213

>>19870119
Lope de Vega y Asturias, ultra based

>> No.19871251

>>19867080
Walser's based. Though I can't really tell if he's underappreciated at large. He's got that self-aware romantic autist tone that I don't think is easily assimilated into any current ideological lit-camps, it's too dreamily solipsistic. Jakob von Gunten being the exception, with the deeply messy headmistress and homoerotic "be my fair-youth Sancho-Panza?" headmaster, opening up more relationality in the story. Still, it's so like a dream.

>> No.19871261

anything by bruce wagner

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or anything else by the author

>> No.19871549

>>19863675
Daizi is actually pretty popular here from what I've gathered, I don't see him mentioned that much but more frequently than some and definitely mentioned more than most of the other stuff on the chart. I really did enjoy No Longer Human. I do read a lot of Richard Brautigan and I don't see him mentioned here or just about anywhere else that much at all. He was pretty popular back in his time but he's mostly forgotten these days, some of his books are pretty out there but that's why I enjoy them. Most other authors I like are usually more popular than not, but there are a few that I feel are a bit underrated. Ken Liu's Dandelion Dynasty is probably my favorite series right now and I don't see it mentioned much at all, unless it's me here.

>> No.19871718

>>19865649
I read that a few years ago. Very good but depressing as it wasn’t really that far removed from my own life though Catholicism has been diluted quite a bit since the 1920s.
Also Farrell’s prose style isn’t quite as ugly as Hubert Selby’s or Bukowski’s but it’s far from pretty

>> No.19871728

>>19871280
I was a big fan of Flag for Sunrise, Dog Soldiers and Children of the Light.
I didn’t like the one set in Israel and I haven’t read Outerbrige Reach

>> No.19871800

>>19863416
I would never read an Am*rican author. Ever

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>Battle of Kursk, 1943. A young German conscript in an elite division of the Wehrmacht and his Kompanie are pinned into a factory. Just before his life is to end he finds himself awake in a very strange world where animals talk and walk on two. Knowing only terrifying and confusing battles for two years, Hans is elated to be taken out of the colossal struggle which consumed him.
>294 pages