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[Anonymous No.19833966]

>The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. The chemico-biologization of mental illness is of course strictly commensurate with its depoliticization. Considering mental illness an individual chemico-biological problem has enormous benefits for capitalism. First, it reinforces Capital’s drive towards atomistic individualization (you are sick because of your brain chemistry). Second, it provides an enormously lucrative market in which multinational pharmaceutical companies can peddle their pharmaceuticals (we can cure you with our SSRls). It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism.

[Anonymous No.19834001]

>>19833966
The neoliberal achievement-subject can never refute this. All they can do is offer you a CBT-therapy workbook and placebo medication.

[werther No.19834017]

Capitalist Realism is for people who have never heard of theory before. Read [insert wacky cool writer 16-year-old political tiktokers are obsessed with] instead.

[Anonymous No.19834054]

>Dude...everything bad is capitalism
>It's just like...an overall atmosphere and stuff
>Kurt Cobain....
wow, truly the GOAT analysis of capital

[Anonymous No.19834144]

Keep reading the blindpill chart, you’ll gain the ability to pierce through the veil of the Spectacle.
You’ll realize that’s a lie.

[Anonymous No.19834172]

>>19833966
Anon, you need to stop posting threads about this book. It's not that profound. Get over your obsession and read something else for once.

[Anonymous No.19834179]

>Dude...everything bad is capitalism
>It's just like...an overall atmosphere and stuff
>Kurt Cobain....

[Anonymous No.19834235]

>>19834172
The "It's not profound" critique is so pathetic. Do you have a single original thought in your head anon?

[Anonymous No.19834290]

>>19834017
>theory
Why the fuck leftist shit is even called "theory"? In which why is theoretical?

[Anonymous No.19834316]

>>19833966
>I have no fucking clue about neurology or pharmacology but it's okay because I'm a retard with a political opinion
this guy probably didn't even believe in objective reality because deleuze.

[Anonymous No.19834330]

>>19834235
I bet I have thoughts in my head that are more compelling than a retard like Mark Fisher praising Russell Brand for making proletariats “sexy again”

[Anonymous No.19834350]

>>19834290
It's american leftist slang. Ignore it.

[Anonymous No.19834354]

>>19834316
Even if objective reality was a thing, why would humans be able to perceive it?

[Anonymous No.19834368]

>>19833966
REPLY TO THIS POST IF YOU'RE GLAD YOU NEVER WASTED YOUR TIME WITH THIS SHIT BOOK FOR LOSER FAGGOT DORKS

[Anonymous No.19834377]

>>19833966
>the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism.
well, they sure failed there lol

[Anonymous No.19834380]

>>19833966
that's true though
the very existence of diagnosis for things such as ADHD or "light" autism shows how rigid the capitalist society is, and how it is not fitting the real world in the way it expects every human to be the mean, normal human, which is obviously not the case.

That being said, I haven't read this book yet and I don't really see what this has to do with the "capitalist realism" concept, which was—from my understanding—about how capitalism makes anti-capitalism a part of its own system to negate it.

[Anonymous No.19834382]

>>19834316
>depression is an illness because i can see it in laboratory hurrr durrr

[Anonymous No.19834413]

>>19834316
> It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin.

[Anonymous No.19834482]

>>19833966
Why draw the line there?
>A number of authors have recently tried to debunk the status of mental deviance as a “disease.” Paradoxically, they have rendered it more and not less difficult to raise the same kind of question about disease in general. Leifer, Goffman, Szasz, Laing, and others are all interested in the political genesis of mental illness and its use for political purposes. In order to make their point, they all contrast “unreal” mental with “real” physical disease: in their view the language of natural science, now applied to all conditions that are studied by physicians, really fits physical sickness only. Physical sickness is confined to the body, and it lies in an anatomical, physiological, and genetic context. The “real” existence of these conditions can be confirmed by measurement and experiment, without any reference to a value-system. None of this applies to mental sickness: its status as a “sickness” depends entirely on psychiatric judgment. The psychiatrist acts as the agent of a social, ethical, and political milieu. Measurements and experiments on these “mental” conditions can be conducted only within an ideological framework which derives its consistency from the general social prejudice of the psychiatrist. The prevalence of sickness is blamed on life in an alienated society, but while political reconstruction might eliminate much psychic sickness, it would merely provide better and more equitable technical treatment for those who are physically ill.

[Anonymous No.19834487]

>>19834482
If massive internal bleeding is a bad thing irrespective of your value system, why do people shoot themselves?

[Anonymous No.19834503]

>>19834330
>I bet I have thoughts

Stopped reading right there. No you don't.

[Anonymous No.19834530]

>>19834380
>about how capitalism makes anti-capitalism a part of its own system to negate it.

corps appropriating blm and tranny shit to sell more warez

[Anonymous No.19834548]

>>19834487
the point is that it isn't

[Anonymous No.19834730]

>>19834530
nah that's the 20IQ aspect pretty much everyone already gets anon, from what I understand it tackles how the very anti-capitalist organisations are forced to live through capitalism, require money, mediatization, brand images, and so on. How you're truly stuck in this shit unless you actually start going ape and go arson

[Anonymous No.19834920]

>>19833966
Based. Psychiatrists get the rope too.

[Anonymous No.19834943]

>>19833966
>The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism.

There, I fixed this paragraph. What's with the word salad before getting to the point?

[Anonymous No.19834982]

>>19834730
>require money, mediatization, brand images, and so on.
When did capitalism start? Organisations have been using these forever.

[Anonymous No.19835651]

>>19834316
You are kind of an idiot aren't you?

[Anonymous No.19835660]

>>19833966

[Anonymous No.19836494]

>>19833966
Just put women back into kitchen, give them husbands and make divorce illegal and "depression epidemic" will end

[Anonymous No.19836595]

>>19834730
"born to shit, forced to wipe"

[Anonymous No.19836611]

>kills self

[Anonymous No.19836615]

>>19834730
commie orgs being softlocked into capitalism isn't exactly a groundbreaking observation either

[Anonymous No.19837001]

>>19834377
kek. nice

[Anonymous No.19837007]

>>19835660
a gatekeeping shill?

[Anonymous No.19838089]

>>19834290
because its simple ideas conveyed using complex language that is inspiring to young pseudo-intellectual leftists.
i am a leftist and think this is a good thing, eventually they will realize its meaningless but it doesnt matter if it inspires action