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The church is so cucked, but the aesthetics are great + evangelicals are fucking insane

>> No.19828797

>>19828781
I think we might as well just become Catholic at this point tbqh.

>> No.19828819
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You must read the works of Bishop Ryle my brother.

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>>19828797

>> No.19828852

>>19828819
ill look into this now, ty

>> No.19828882

bump

>> No.19828903

>>19828781
what was the moment you thought "ok, that's enough"?
Mine, it was the canadian priest giving the Communion to a dog.

>> No.19829014

>>19828903
Ecce panis Angelórum,
Factus cibus viatórum:
Vere panis filiórum,
Non mitténdus cánibus.

>> No.19829128

>>19828797
Uhh the Catholic Church is not much better lmao

>> No.19829231

>>19828781
>>19828797
>>19828903
>>19829128
Organized religion is a mockery of God. Fallible humans making decisions about which of God's commands to obey or ignore. It's not surprising that these idiots give into every fad and buzzword and make a mockery of what should be their most important beliefs. Islam has none of this. No organizations or hierarchies or any of that nonsense. Ironically that actually makes our beliefs less vulnerable to subversion. The only 'authority figures' in our religion are just people who have studied the Quran and Sunnah more than the average person has, and their authority comes from that knowledge, not some title or membership in some committee.

>> No.19830137

>>19828781
Isn't the aesthetic Catholic?

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>>19828903
Please tell me you're kidding. How wasn't he immediately defrocked and excommunicated for host desecration?

>> No.19830479

>>19828781
that reminds me that Calvinists would be great if they just stop sucking kosher cock for 1 minute

>> No.19830492

>>19830479
A uniquely American dilemma.

>> No.19830502

>>19829231
Based

>> No.19830513

>>19828781
>>19828797
Genuinely if you are coming from the position of looking for the most based church you are a pagan. I'm not saying you shouldn't accept practices you don't approve of, but this is blatantly a mockery of faith.

>> No.19830521

>>19830513
>you are a pagan
(and that's a good thing)

>> No.19830528

>>19830521
I mean if that's your goal from the outset sure, don't come at it from a position of false consciousness and I couldn't care less.

>> No.19830557

>>19829231
Your post reaches Levels of mental gymnastics and contradictions rarely seen.

I haven't seen a take this bad.

Islam's probably easy for you though, being the ramblings of a sub 85 I.Q illiterate paedophile.

>> No.19830584

>>19830492
Not gonna lie, that's true. but overall ethically Calvinists are decent, if you can ignore that and how they interpret the free market. I mean if you're gonna be a capitalist at least support it in its freest form, where there isn't a complete concentration of money and power and people actually compete for individual gains.

>> No.19830607

>>19830450
It was a woman

>> No.19830786

As someone who has walked that path I can tell you that no, there are no good books for it and those which are better will likely lead you away from it (eg radical orthodoxy).

Either you go catholic/orthodox or you will go evangelical/bible centric Protestant. Big tent churches don’t really make sense when there is actual choice available in your denominations. Not to mention as well it’s in an organisational mess that’s heavy on debts/obligations and has a leadership that’s too liberal for its members and too conservative for mainstream society

>> No.19831041

>>19830607
Have theological liberals ever considered that maybe there's a reason women weren't allowed into the clergy?

>> No.19831170

>>19828781
begome Orthodox Christian

>> No.19831200

>>19829231
Stfu non-denominational faggot.

>> No.19831341

>>19830607
>>19828903
This is literally S01E06 of the Vicar of Dibley.

>> No.19831346

>>19828797
>>19828781
There's very little to distinguish traditionalist anglicanism / anglo-catholicism from Orthodoxy. Just become Orthodox.

>> No.19831348

>>19828797
Why on earth (or in heaven) would you go to Rome--that Satanic centre of paedo-priests--when there's a perfectly good mother-church just to the East?

>> No.19831350

>>19829231
Islam fails the nonce test and thus shouldn't be taken seriously. By their fruits and all that.

>> No.19831543

>>19830513
Of course you are right anon, but this isn't just a matter of "baste or cringe". These people are straying from some very clearly outlined and important principles from the Bible and the church for the majority of her history. It's not just banal politics.

>> No.19831590

Very comfy and elegant church, I finally left it though because no point in being part of a church that preaches disbelief in the Bible. What’s the point ? I became Orthodox for a few years and force memed it on /poll/ until it became a “thing” on the right, but then I found Islam was the truth by getting too deep in polemics against it

>> No.19832380

>>19831590
im sure youll find a new real truth next week anon godspeed

>> No.19832456

>>19832380
If you grow as a human being your beliefs will including religious even if you don’t change religion. Religion for me was always an extension of my pursuit of philosophy and not about finding an identity or sense of belonging or some existential struggle or need to give myself a purpose, it was just about truth. But if religion is more self centric and a personality crunch then your search will never take you beyond apologetics and you won’t assimilate what you learn in a meaningful way

>> No.19832932

>>19828781
I'd recommend any book by C.S. Lewis really, he's one of the few anglican (episcopalian) Christian apologists of note. His book 'Abolition of Man' is one a classic among rightoids as it saw coming much of the dehumanisation which would happen during and after he died.

A writer I know to be episcopalian and right-wing is Albert Jay Nock and his book 'Our enemy, the state' is a classic among ancaps and his 'The Myth of a Guilty Nation' is liked across Paleoconservative anti-interventionist circles.

>> No.19832959

>>19830513
>the most based church
people just want a church that doesn't care more about validating gays, feminists and secular institutions than God. That's it.

>> No.19833642

>>19830513
>You will judge a tree by its fruits. Evil fruit will not come from the corrupt seed.
>Why do you guys care that these institutions claiming religious authority are actively supporting the demonic corruption of society?

Going by what's based is probably more effective than theological study.

>> No.19834521

>>19831590
Holy shit, you were Constantine ?
4chan never ceases to amaze me.

How on earth did you manage to make that jump ?

>> No.19835952

>>19832456
>Religion was my pursuit of philosophy
>it was just about truth
syncretism is worse than atheism

>> No.19837071

>>19834521
I researched Islam heavily to argue against it

>>19835952
Where did I say anything about syncretism?

>> No.19837981

>>19828781
Do Episcopal churches care at all about what you believe theologically or philosophically? I'm really /x/ with my beliefs and don't want to be bound by any dogma, but it seems like a comfy Church to be a part of.

>> No.19839293
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>>19828781
become Orthodox

>> No.19839369

>>19831590
How long was your catechism in the Orthodox church?

>> No.19839811

>>19839293
fair

>> No.19840846

>>19828781
Are you Tucker Carlson?
>Carlson is an Episcopalian and "loves the liturgy, though [he] abhors the liberals who run the denomination."[46]

>> No.19840864

>>19828781
If you like the Anglican heritage then maybe join ACNA

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>>19831170
>>19831346
>>19831348
where did all of you mongoloids even come from?!

>> No.19840886

>>19828781
Also are you more anglo-catholic leaning?

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>>19839293
>become Orthodox
a bunch of spiteful mutants who'd rather be muslim, atheist, or communist than christian at the end of the day all to spite their spiritual superior in Rome.
Also, on a related note Rome has to do a better job with the priesthood atm desu no cap!

>> No.19841050

>>19828781
High-church confessional Lutheran or ACNA Anglican.

>> No.19841170
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>>19828781

>> No.19841174

>>19831590
Maybe you should just join the Rosicrucians.

>> No.19841258

>>19840913
Doesn't take a Muslim, atheist, or communist to see that clerical celibacy is retarded, has no historical/scriptural basis and isn't working anyway

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>>19828781
>picking your church based on fucking aesthetics
Christianity truly is dead in the developed world

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The BCP is the one of the best liturgical books ever written. Cranmer's collects alone could bee their own book. Man I love being Anglican.

>> No.19841282

>>19841258
most Muslims (those that are not Muhamchad, at least, which is most of them) nor atheists nor communists actually get laid IRL so its basically the pot calling the kettle black.

>> No.19841293

>>19840846
Epsicopalians in my experience are very, strange to say the least. they either get furious with you or dodge the question if you bring up how Trayvon (noticing this has been memory holed by almost all people) somehow became a saint in their church.

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>>19841293
>Trayvon became a saint in the Episcopalian Church
my fuckin' sides
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.19841345

>>19841258
>clerical celibacy is retarded
silence. the problem is whores stealing all of our beautiful young men's vocations! the spirit is willing but the flesh is weakened by the licit predation from lustful non-religious women.

>> No.19841356

>>19841345
>1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later[a] times some will renounce the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. 3 They forbid marriage and demand abstinence from foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, provided it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by God’s word and by prayer.
- 1 Timothy 4

>> No.19841382

>>19830479
>>19830492
>>19830584
South African Calvinism is based because they've actually come full circle with predestination and basically view themselves as having been chosen by God. This feature in Calvinism can be a great asset if only Ameritards were able to throw off the shade of Zionism.

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>>19841356
>taking Scripture out of context
okay, fuck off already.

>> No.19841546

>>19841319
From what I could find, Trayvon didn't become a saint, but MLK was canonized in 2016.

>> No.19841546,1 [INTERNAL] 

how does this work?