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Its over.

>> No.19820519

>>19820509
Not a single one of those is an actual news publication.

>> No.19820526

>>19820509
Wow, I bet none of that was said. They’re just trying to make Rogan out to be a rightwinger.
Next they’ll say he killed a bunch black people during the George Floyd protests

>> No.19820528
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Q: What do a hardcore radical leftist who posts about revolutionary praxis and a bourgeois journalist who went to an expensive private liberal arts college have in common?

A: They both went to an expensive private liberal arts college.

>> No.19820536
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>Daddy! Daddy I got a job writing for the INDEPENDENT! Your little girl really made it after ten years of schmoozing with the class of people who work for the Independent and trading favors and recommending eachother for internships and grants!

>> No.19820540

Who's Joe Rogan?

>> No.19820541

>>19820509
If you haven’t read Mein Kampf,
Hitler described this exact thing in the book, word for fucking word.
The media outlets all collude with each other to try and ruin someone who they feel threatened by.
Make no mistake, they are in contact with one another and are coordinating this

>> No.19820559
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>>19820541
>The fact that nine-tenths of all the smutty literature, artistic tripe and theatrical banalities, had to be charged to the account of people who formed scarcely one per cent. of the nation--that fact could not be gainsaid. It was there, and had to be admitted. Then I began to examine my favourite 'World Press', with that fact before my mind. The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style became still more repellent and I was forced to reject its ideas as entirely shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation of facts and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain more falsehood than truth. The writers were--Jews.

>Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand things which I had formerly looked at in a different light.

>I saw the Liberal policy of that Press in another light. Its dignified tone in replying to the attacks of its adversaries and its dead silence in other cases now became clear to me as part of a cunning and despicable way of deceiving the readers. Its brilliant theatrical criticisms always praised the Jewish authors and its adverse, criticism was reserved exclusively for the Germans.

>I had now no more hesitation about bringing the Jewish problem to light in all its details. No. Henceforth I was determined to do so. But as I learned to track down the Jew in all the different spheres of cultural and artistic life, and in the various manifestations of this life everywhere, I suddenly came upon him in a position where I had least expected to find him. I now realized that the Jews were the leaders of Social Democracy. In face of that revelation the scales fell from my eyes. My long inner struggle was at an end.

>In my relations with my fellow workmen I was often astonished to find how easily and often they changed their opinions on the same questions, sometimes within a few days and sometimes even within the course of a few hours.
..
>They were dissatisfied with their lot and cursed the fate which had hit them so hard. They hated their employers, whom they looked upon as the heartless administrators of their cruel destiny. Often they used abusive language against the public officials, whom they accused of having no sympathy with the situation of the working people. They made public protests against the cost of living and paraded through the streets in defence of their claims. At least all this could be explained on reasonable grounds. But what was impossible to understand was the boundless hatred they expressed against their own fellow citizens, how they disparaged their own nation, mocked at its greatness, reviled its history and dragged the names of its most illustrious men in the gutter. This hostility towards their own kith and kin, their own native land and home was as irrational as it was incomprehensible.

>> No.19820601

>>19820509
Suprised that Peterson still has detractors desu

>> No.19820700

>>19820509
Trevor "I'm half white so I grew my hair out to make it look nappy" Noah.

>> No.19820755

>>19820509
Even socially progressive libertarian types get treated like nazis now, how the fuck did this happen?

>> No.19820769

>>19820601
He's so boring (says the same thing on repeat) and obviously mentally ill, I don't know why people are still riding his jockstrap. Leave him alone and let him grift in peace, he's not even at full capacity anymore.

>> No.19820787

why did this thread bring out all the schizos?

>> No.19820797

>>19820787
people with strong opinions about toe jogan tend to be retarded

>> No.19820825

>>19820509

hey faggot you stole my crop of a google news screenshot which I then sent to my cockmail address before I then posted it on /tv/ which hit 143 replies before being deleted (for free)

>> No.19820828

>>19820700
Trevor "Every race in the world is capable of producing some beautiful girls...except for Abbos, they're fucking ugly" Noah

>> No.19820845

>>19820755
He's not being treated like a Nazi bro. He made some stupid comments about climate change and blacks. Typical pseudointellectual stuff. All the news media companies saw it as an opportunity to deboooonk him and get clicks.

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>>19820845
No, hes been called a dangerous alt right figurehead/nazi/right wing extremist for a while

>> No.19820877

>>19820862
Yeah by faggot leftists who believe everyone is Literally Hitler. If he were treated like a Nazi he wouldn't have a YouTube channel, social media, or massive live events.

>> No.19820940

>>19820509
This makes the conversation seem much more interesting than it was. Peterson has become grifter supreme, saying the same shit over and over, collaborating with dan crenshaw and other corrupt neocon scum to 'save the western world'

>> No.19820962

>>19820526
I listened to the climate change excerpt, and to be fair, Rogan did push back on some of Peterson’s points, albeit pretty weakly.

On the other hand, Peterson was coming off as full-blown Heritage Foundation funded, essentially propagandizing for oil/gas. It’s kind of amazing that he went from anti-trans free speech advocacy to straight up oil mouthpiece. I haven’t followed much of him, so maybe this isn’t a new development, but holy shit.

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>>19820962
He's always been a grifter.

>> No.19820987

>>19820962
At the end of the day he's an Albertan, which is like a Texan but worse because of the additional Canadian smugness

>> No.19821044

>>19820528
I really detest this "how you should feel" tone of so many articles. How do people not feel annoyed by this propagandist shit? There's obviously a reason why they write headlines like that, but how do they work? Why?

>> No.19821046

Why couldn't Peterson just stick to comfy schizo Evolutionary Jung shit? He did his bit telling trannies to fuck off that one time, just let it go.

>> No.19821069

>>19820862
>(((Noah Berlatsky)))

>> No.19821084

>>19820509
The progressives are rather butthurt that the biggest podcaster is not a lefty, and are also assblasted that an eloquent academic (whom they believe should because of his profession) is taking apart their nonsense.

>> No.19821085

>>19821044
Because to the normie the average news outlet is still slightly trust worthy, and this gives them some imagined authority over things that they actually know nothing about. This also only holds sway over men who have never faced any sort of adversity in life and are husks of what once was

>> No.19821090

>>19820509
>Minnesota Pride event yanks Satan-worshipping, incest-fetish pornographer from performing at Drag Queen Story Hour after backlash
https://www.theblaze.com/news/minnesota-pride-satan-worshipping-incest-fetish-pornographer-drag-queen-story-hour

Houston Public Library admits registered child sex offender read to kids in Drag Queen Storytime

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-participated-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a

if anything, peterson and the religious right radically underestimated the totalitarian and pedophilic implications of cultural marxism and the politically correct LGBTSJWTFNPC ideology.

>> No.19821095

>>19821084
How is he taking apart their nonsense? He says climate change isn't real because "climate" is "everything" and you can't measure everything.
Not sure what he said about blacks, but it sounds like some post-modern racial deconstructionist bullshit.
He's probably right about trannies idk.

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>>19820862

>> No.19821123

>>19821095
>How is he taking apart their nonsense?

The left is busy trying to delude itself into denying basic truths, such as the fact that men are men and women are women. Normally when someone comes along and points out their nonsense, they just brush it off by questioning the person's credentials, saying that they're just a dumb hick or something. In Peterson's case this is more difficult for them to do—he has a doctorate degree and is a professor—so they hate him for it, particularly because they probably think he should be a progressive since he's an academic.

>> No.19821128

>>19821111
God I hate jews

>> No.19821131
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>>19821111
OHNONONO

>> No.19821137

>>19821046
If you had the chance to become a public intellectual, would you give it up? He didn't become famous until fairly late in life and he's suffered from depression for years. Being forced into the limelight over the tranny stuff was probably the best thing that ever happened to him, even though he talks about how stressful it was, etc.

>> No.19821141

>>19821084
The legacy media is upset because they were caught sleeping in the evolving online mediascape and their influence will die with the boomers. By framing it in right vs left terms you are operating inside the cable news metaphysic you absolute midwit.

>> No.19821146

>>19821131
>MAPS
>MAPS of Meaning

ohnonononononono

>> No.19821155

>>19821095

Yes. Because when I measure the climate, I measure my dick size and how many pieces of gum I have left in the pack, cause, you know, "everything."

Why settle for what is actually measured, like temp, humidity, wind direction and speed, barometric pressure, particulate matter, altitude of land, and number of severe storms, when I can also measure, the length of my hair, or your IQ. cause that's what Benzo Boy thinks is measured.

Of course the only thing he is measuring is book sales and likes.

>> No.19821156

>>19821141
I mean if theI mean if these people are going to call you a fascist for the crimes of not wanting to be a second class citizen in your own country reading old books having thoughts unapproved by corporate media or not wanting children to be molested, then can "fascism" probably be all that bad?

I mean have you tried bringing up any books around your local lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle? In no time you will see their beady stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Hasnt it been debunked as fake news russian bot pseudoscience?Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneyplus? your daily mandatory dose of ''ethically sourced'' child pornography? Didnt you know reading antything beyond YA literature is ableist towards people who are too retarded to read? How does this further the short term electoral goals of the democratic party? Are you saying child sex workers arent real sex workers?Have you been taking your daily recomended dose of high fructuouse corn syrup your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training as per the domestic terrorism act of 2021"

>> No.19821162
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>>19821141
>"framing it in right vs left terms"
>hurr durr I'm a genius because I've pointed out both sides have their problems.
>absolute midwit
>he doesn't even know he's trapped in a right/left dichotomy

>> No.19821175

>>19820962
right wing wingers want to propagandize for oil and gas leftwing NGOs want to normalize pedophilia and impose a totalitarian regime. your choice, white man.

>> No.19821197

>>19820526
The year is 20xx you have been ordered by your local globohomo comissar to attend a state sponsored screening of star wars XXVIII: avengers assemble. On the way there you pass by the daily george floyd memorial pride blm mcdonalds parade a fabulous twerking troupe of boy catamites followed by the phallic missiles of the lockheed float.missiles set to launch at midnight (mercifully) wiping the human race off the Face of the earth.when you arrive at the theater, bill nye, the science guy and alexandra ocasio cortez strap you into a chair forcing your eyes open clockwork orange style, the screen flickers on instead of space adventures or superheroes the audience is treated to what looks like blurry slow mo vhs footage of a pack of bluehaired fat positive queers raping an innocent white child intersped with blipverts for the latest techproduct. The braindead leftists in the audience chant YAS KWEEN SLAY at what they cant help but see as a beautiful and heartwarming display of diversity and progress. The queers start ripping appart the child and feasting on its bloody entrails like rabid hogs at the through. You sit on the front row and think: "gee i shouldve joined the alt right before it was too late"

>> No.19821211

>>19821175
I think I'll take a third path, thanks for the offer though Moshe

>> No.19821222

>>19821044
>There's obviously a reason why they write headlines like that, but how do they work? Why?
A mix of ideological goals and a implicitly understanding that 98% of people that read the headlines won't actually read the article themselves.

>> No.19821233

juden peterstein

>> No.19821237

>>19820528
how many leftists do you personally know? im apathetic politically but any of my friends that swing that way all went to community college or didnt do post-secondary let alone even graduate high school. rich liberals are just faking it

>> No.19821264

>>19821197
8/10

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>>19821211
good choice

>> No.19822439

>>19820509
It has just begun

>> No.19822467

/lit/ just doesn't like Peterson because he reminds /lit/ of themselves:

>Hates onions/progressive culture
>Somewhat of a schizo weirdo
>Reads quite a lot
>Likes quoting this literature
>When talking, worldview comes off as incoherent word salads with philosophy buzzwords thrown in

>> No.19822482

>>19820541
Jordan Peterson isnt a threat to anything. He is just another part of the system.
Media outlets using popular person on a popular show to drum up views for their unpopular webpage is meaningless.

>> No.19822490

>>19820862
Nice screenshot from a random article from 4 years ago.

>> No.19822499

I think Peterson was actually trolling

>> No.19822513
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>>19820962
> It’s kind of amazing that he went from anti-trans free speech advocacy to straight up oil mouthpiece

>> No.19822515

Is anyone else getting deja vu with this line of argument?
I feel like I've heard him say something similar in the past but I'm not exactly sure

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>>19820509
My mom said she wants to sleep with Jordan Peterson

>> No.19822524

>>19821131
Animated cp is already legal.

>> No.19822534

>>19822467
No, pseuds don't like him because they think catching on to a media personality acting like a media personality means they're intellectuals. Peterson was a research scientist, a highly regarded professor, and had a successful career as a clinical psychologist. He spent decades writing widely cited papers, conducting practical research into the physical psychological factors of addiction, mentoring students into successful careers, and counseling poor/suffering mentally ill people disregarded by most of society as worthless.

Yes, he's basically a shill now and he's fully leaned into his accidental career as a media personality. His ideas are presented in a mass-market way that will attract people to him. However, thinking you're smarter than he is because you figured this out means you're a retard who can't tell the difference between reality and YouTube. He's better than we deserve as far as media personalities go.

>> No.19822538

>>19821197
Don’t threaten me with a good time anon

>> No.19822540

>>19822513
Thinking trannies are crazy is the same as shilling for oil?

>> No.19822560

>>19822534
>Peterson was a research scientist, a highly regarded professor, and had a successful career as a clinical psychologist. He spent decades writing widely cited papers
Oh look its this person again. Did daddy peterson give you a one up the bum one afternoon after class?
None of the shit he did matters. What is replication crisis etc etc. And besides, he doesnt talk about his area of 'expertise'.

>> No.19822579 [DELETED] 

>>19820540
my dad

>> No.19822586

>>19820559
Holy shit, I need to read Mein Kampf.

>> No.19822594

>>19821095
Anon, Peterson’s point about climate change is displayed by perfectly by >>19821155 as that anon thinks ‘climate’ is simply the weather. Is climate indeed just the weather? Is it the earth’s planetary ecosystem? Is it the atmosphere? Is it just a descriptor for humanity’s carbon footprint?

The term has been so semantically overloaded that nobody knows what it means anymore, which is why he described it as ‘everything’. Please consider developing an attention span longer than forty-nine seconds.

>> No.19822606

>>19820509
American faux-intellectualism is a condition that kills all reason

>> No.19822630

>>19822606
He's Canadian, Anon. And I doubt the "intellectuals" in your dump of a country are much better.

>> No.19822634

>>19821237
Not him but almost every socialist I know went to private school and lives off their parents' money.
The only exception is an "enby" (clearly a woman) who is dating a libertarian gun-nut friend of mine

>> No.19822640

>>19822513
Having people Arrested for not using your pronouns is wrong, my dude (male)

>> No.19822700

>>19820962
he said nuclear was the way to go but i can see where you're coming from

>> No.19822718
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JP really went from cringe with good advice, to full blown Nietzsche and Jung babbler. It's rather sad really, I was never a big fan of Peterson since his stuff was so simplistic, but listening to that I don't think I could ever see him recovering to the point of actually developing a coherent point. I wonder how much Zizek contributed to his downfall.

>> No.19822725

>>19822718
how is going from
>wash your penis
to
>THERE IS A LIGHT IN THE ABYSS READ EXODUS THE ELVES TOLD ME
a bad thing?

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>>19820962
Oil and Gas is based and makes tranny libs seethe. Everyone should support it.

>> No.19822744

>>19822725
He was repeating all of that Jungian nonsense back then too, but instead of clarifying and building on it he just pulls it out and sounds like a schizo. He hasn't even stopped taking Benzos, he just reduced the dosage.

>> No.19822749

>>19822467
>>When talking, worldview comes off as incoherent word salads with philosophy buzzwords thrown in
He's completely understandable unless you're either
a) a moron
b) ideologically compelled not to understand
So many retards out themselves when it comes to Peterson, they're usually the same people who go 'I LOVE SCIENCE' but don't actually understand evolution. It's quite pathetic.

>> No.19822985

>>19822560
>replication crisis
Which one of Peterson's papers involving his lab studies is subject to the replication crisis? They couldn't replicate his findings using other mice?

You're a retard. Peterson's current bullshit is ironically what's on your level. Pat yourself on the back for watching YouTube. (Also, I'm sure his clinical work matters to a lot of people that he could probably personally name. When was the last time you even carried groceries for someone you pathetic pseud? Clean your room...start with the piss bottles).

>> No.19822986

/lit/ has always been a pro-peterson board and we aren't going to change now

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>>19821095
Peterson's brief climate change comments are ore inline with (pic related) pseud. 1/2
>>19821123
>>19821155
>>19822594
You guys might actually read this/enjoy it. The other retard is just going to post tl/dr (1 of 2)

>> No.19823004

>>19822744
>he just pulls it out and sounds like a schizo
My kinda guy

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>>19823002

>> No.19823011

>>19820962
Peterson has always had boomer opinions on climate, literally watch some of his videos from 2018.

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>>19823010
Bonus

>> No.19823031

>>19821175
I choose Christ my Lord and friend (though I am a worm)

>> No.19823039

Felt bad for Peterson, Rogan spent most of the interview being irritable with him.

>> No.19823044

>>19822534
All those credentials just so he can be a shill for liberal globalism. Who gives a shit that he occasionally gave good advice several years ago? He's now a mediocre conservative commentator. Completely unremarkable and pathetically fragile for his age.

>> No.19823170

>>19823039
Peterson came in like Alex Jones clearing his name after Sandy Hook. He literally had to run him back and basically restate his first 15 minute rant. It was plenty of fun.

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>>19820559
Oh no... he makes perfect sense

I thought it was supposed to be all the racist ravings of a lunatic. Why the fuck did they lie to me

>> No.19823303

>>19820559
wow he's literally me

>> No.19823311

>>19820509
This was a 5 minute segment of a 4 hour interview lol

But yeah peterstein thinks he can use words to shape reality and its very shameful

>> No.19823458

>>19823218
>>19823303
It gets weirder, check out these quotes from The Young Hitler I Knew

>>/lit/thread/S19335816#p19336653

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>>19820509
>its all left-wing journo websites

>> No.19823522

>>19820601
Surprised he still has supporters

>> No.19823549

>>19820862
This is literally the author of a “Why Ant Man should be black” article. He is a clickbait nobody who is taken seriously by no one.

>> No.19823622

>>19820526
I know your retard but yes all those things were said. And yes Joe is a right winger. He defends fucking Trump jr for God sakes.

>> No.19823652

>>19822630
>he doesn't see that all English speaking countries have been subverted by American culture and the ad company engineered brainwash media its conglomerate owned outlets put out

>> No.19824066

>>19820509
Rogan and Peterson are too smart for these dying mainstream media outlets

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>>19822738
>haha bro, making a bunch of college kids angry was totally worth it
Btw the two biggest oil companies in the world are Chinese

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>>19824387
What's the Chinese have to do with anything? I've worked with guys from Sinopec, all very decent people. Good for them. At least they have a government that understands what it takes to maintain some semblance of geopolitical strength and energy independence. Your tranny meds wouldn't be possible without petrochemicals by the way. So I think its in your interest that we all keep drilling :^) Oh and we'll flare too, because the methane isn't worth it to sell so its just better to burn lmfao

>> No.19824496

>>19824482
Bro you’re taking my shitpost way too serious. I mentioned China because it makes the conservatards seethe. You can bet your ass that if a lot of southern money wasn’t in oil, Trump would’ve attacked oil for >muh China
Btw the American military produces more CO2 than the bottom 100 countries in the world combined, once your military industrial complex crumbles the world will be Gucci :^)

>> No.19824519

>>19824387
The captions are wrong. One is winter and one is summer.

>> No.19824521

>>19824066
This, their IQs must be at least 102

>> No.19824534

>>19822534
mega based

>> No.19824545

>>19822534
>Peterson was a psychiatrist, that means he is smart and people should listen to him when it comes to philosophy!
>I have a degree in Philosophy, that means I am smart and fit to work as a psychiatrist
Peterson fanboys are retarded beyond believe. He admitted to have only read the communist manifesto (which isn’t even a philosophical work) and yet people trust him as if he had Marxism all figured out

>> No.19824557

>>19823622
And yes, he did kill a bunch of black people on george floyd day. And yes, he is the second coming of Hitler.

>> No.19824574

>>19820559
Oh so it's just the same paranoid not-my-faultism that pervades any deeply hateful person.

>> No.19824583

>>19824545
Actually, that’s not completely true either. He skimmed through the communist manifesto prior to a debate and never read a word of Marx before that.

>> No.19824586

>>19823622
Convince me why anything you said matters

>> No.19824591

>>19820509
I’m listening to the podcast right now and Joe is doing everything in his power to make things awkward. Is he trying to win points with his handlers after the whole Dr. Malone thing?

>> No.19824599

>>19824545
There is no Marxist philosophical work. Marxism is not philosophy, it's a mix of economics and sociology.

>> No.19824616

>>19824599
>There is no Marxist philosophical work
>what is dialectical materialism
Literally in das Kapital
Try reading friend

>> No.19824623

>>19824591
Feels like something pissed off Rogan before or very early on in the interview and that ended up colouring the whole thing. Perhaps it was the tux.

>> No.19824629

>>19824623
Nah he’s done this before with other guests

>> No.19824639

>>19824616
>>what is dialectical materialism
Not philosophy.

>> No.19824642

>>19822524
As it should be

>> No.19824648

>>19820845
He said it's ridiculous to categorize people as black and white when humans are many different shades. What about that is ridiculous you fucking rot-brained faggot

>> No.19824656

>>19821137
No offense but you sound stupid as shit

>> No.19824669

>>19820509
The more (((they))) hate him, the more I love him.

>> No.19824672

>>19822985
>lab studies
Lmfao hes a fucking psychologist not a chemist.

>When was the last time you even carried groceries for someone you pathetic pseud? Clean your room...start with the piss bottles).
I really struck a nerve with you wanting to get butt fucked by daddy peterson huh.

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>>19824672
Doesn’t he have a masters in neuropsychology?

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>>19824387
Am I expected to believe these are actual photos and not renderings? No wonder flat earth gains so much traction when shit like this is posted and its meant to be taken seriously.

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>>19824678
>Doesn’t he have a masters in neuropsychology?
Even more worthless. May as well be gender studies.
Makes sense though. Peterson is a filthy materialist.

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>>19824686
Neuropsychology is far from worthless.
The algorithms running the net wouldn’t exist without psychology either.

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>>19822467

>Reads quite a lot

Ok jordy time to go