Write What's On Your Mind

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Write What's On Your Mind Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:05:09 2022 No.19818034 [Reply] [Original]

WWOYM: No Way Out edition

Old >>19813399

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:06:38 2022 No.19818045 File: 52 KB, 604x586, 1421582828728.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your latest interest/hobby/phase?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:18:15 2022 No.19818082 >>19818045 reading and cooking also pop music

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:22:59 2022 No.19818106

>Who said the following concerning England’s growing illegal immigration crisis? “We’re all human beings, we’re all mammals, we’re all rocks, plants, rivers . . . bloody borders are just such a pain in the arse.”

>Paul Lincoln, outgoing head of Border Force, the government body tasked with preventing illegal immigration into the United Kingdom.

>Mr. Lincoln has become an inadvertent whistleblower, and rather than his former colleagues being aggrieved at this indiscretion, they are with Mr. Lincoln all the way when it comes to the impertinent attitude of government — and the people — that a body called Border Force should enforce the border.

>The trade union who represent Border Force, the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS), have threatened to strike if the government introduces legal measures to secure the border from refugees via the English Channel,

IN 2022, UNIONS LITERALLY STRIKE TO *IMPORT* SCAB LABOUR

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:25:15 2022 No.19818119 >>19818045 I want to paint Warhammer minis >>19818106 Anon I wrote plenty about how the West is doomed last thread. Give it a break.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:29:29 2022 No.19818134 >>19818045 Figuring out what my marketable skills are... which is a trick question: the problem isn't I lack skills which are marketable, but I lack the skills to market them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:30:38 2022 No.19818140 >>19818045 well reading of course, but aside from that I've been going to the beach more, doing crosswords, and watching tennis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:32:29 2022 No.19818145 >>19818082 what kind of cooking? >>19818140 what are you reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:33:31 2022 No.19818150 >>19818145 Coinlocker Babies by Ryu Murakami. I'm going to make a thread about it once I finish because I think it should be more popular on /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:35:52 2022 No.19818162 >>19818045 Rat catching

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 00:38:23 2022 No.19818178 >>19818162 what do you do with the rats?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:10:33 2022 No.19818280 This is the better thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:26:07 2022 No.19818315 >>19818106 you would think workers would see these people as the globohomo useful idiots they are by now if i were in your shoes i would strike in favour of the border securing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:34:27 2022 No.19818326 >>19818034 how do you guys pronounce WWOYM? Wuh Woyme

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:41:43 2022 No.19818345 >>19818326 “Write What's On Your Mind”

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:42:36 2022 No.19818352 >>19818315 Rule 1 of labor movements: workers are ignorant children who need to be told what to do. There's a reason the vanguard party has to exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:54:39 2022 No.19818387 >>19818326 double u double u, o, why, em

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:58:54 2022 No.19818394 >>19818178 Trophies. Pin them on my wall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:59:08 2022 No.19818396 >>19818352 >vanguard party is entirely composed of trannies with rich parents and five vanity masters degrees who still can't read critical theory worth shit NOOOOOOOO!!!!

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:07:29 2022 No.19818420
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The only thing stopping the use of violence in Western politics at this point is lack of imagination.

Like, what if I'm a mayor or a governor and someone is getting in my way. What's to stop me from simply having him killed? Especially at the level of governor. If you rule an entire state there is almost nothing stopping you at this point from using bloodshed to cement your grip on power. Civil restraints have been rolled back. Limits on police power have been rolled back. Manners and customs of democratic nicety are gone.

Why not just respond to someone challenging you by shooting them in the head?

Quaint, kindly old Boomers are the last vestige of civic norms left in this country, and I guarantee that as they start to die, open violence will increasingly be used as a political solution at the local, state, and national level. We may even see the US military deployed against American citizens who are causing problems for the State. In fact, I'd predict that easily.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:12:05 2022 No.19818432 >>19818420 youre 19

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:12:22 2022 No.19818435 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18e_ID-DpA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:36:16 2022 No.19818516 >>19818394 Mean :( I would love to own rats as pets but I would be too sad when they die.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:40:26 2022 No.19818535 >>19818516 I've had pet rats. One of them liked to climb up me and jump off, and it'd do it nonstop. Then she got pregnant, and I had like 20 babies which made us have to get rid of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:56:24 2022 No.19818586 from where does the prevailing moral narrative derive truth and meaning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 02:56:50 2022 No.19818587 >>19818586 In the where it do no can be

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:21:10 2022 No.19818649 >>19818586 Consensus like always

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:28:17 2022 No.19818667 cuckqueening, ultimately is a female empowerment fantasy girls really do have it easier in life no matter how you look at it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:28:23 2022 No.19818668 >>19818034 Best big books? >Ulysses, ~265,000 words >Infinite Jest ~577,000 words >The Tunnel, ~672,000 words >Moby-Dick, or The Whale ~219,000 words

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:33:10 2022 No.19818682 There is a book which is not only out of print, but also there is no copy of it anywhere on the internet for sale, neither new nor used. My school's library has it though. Would they charge me an unreasonable amount if I lost it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:34:07 2022 No.19818687 >>19818667 no shit when a female has a mate that takes multiple females, she has a strong mate when male has a partner that takes multiple males, he is a weak male

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:37:48 2022 No.19818697 >>19818682 Libraries have a special bounty hunter budget to track down thieves for their rare books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:40:02 2022 No.19818699 >>19818687 What lookism does to a mf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:40:09 2022 No.19818701 >>19818697 Lol. In that case I may wish to become a library bounty hunter myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:41:26 2022 No.19818705 >>19818699 it's just the reality, the inherent power dynamic in a relationship between genders are just different

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:54:03 2022 No.19818725 >>19818649 consensus is manufactured

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:55:00 2022 No.19818730 Someone explain Lacan to me, because my Francophobia is so overwhelming that I'm assuming he's another gay French charlatan. Tell me something genuinely interesting about his work. Hard mode: you have to make sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 03:55:06 2022 No.19818733 >>19818667 No. It can be about some other power dynamic. Like he’s so confident in his own ability to make her do this and she still stays. >>19818687 This is just misogynist hardwiring. Not some truth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:13:56 2022 No.19818769 Someone made a second thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:16:24 2022 No.19818778 >>19818769 Wait, do fags still make second threads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:17:25 2022 No.19818779 >>19818769 >>19818778 Obvious samefag is obvious.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:23:41 2022 No.19818795

The worst thing about modern job culture is the idea of "hustling". The idea that someone you always need to be "upskilling". For what? You're doing IT for some firm that manufactures widgets. There is zero nobility in that. At least in the military or in food service no body pretends the job is "meaningful" - it's just something to do. That's what I've always felt more comfortable in manual labor work, there's no illusions of "hustling".

The question "what do you do" presupposes that your job is somehow going to provide you with ultimate life meaning. Maybe I'm cynical but, I've found that's far from the case.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:24:51 2022 No.19818799 >>19818705 Only if you’re insecure

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:28:45 2022 No.19818817 >>19818779 Why’d you make the second thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:35:59 2022 No.19818835 File: 4 KB, 418x104, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19818779 Fuck off, faggot.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:38:28 2022 No.19818842

>>19818730
(1/2)
As I understand it, and I don't claim to understand it...
Lacan rips off... I mean is influenced a lot by Saussure and Hegel
You have the Triad of Orders: The Real. The Symbolic. and the Imaginary.
The Real is basically how we experience the world as infants, it is random, chaotic. Doesn't make sense
The Imaginary we reach during the 'mirror stage' this is one of the first symbols we develop, the 'self' we see something moving in a mirror. We realize that it is the self, that is the "I/me/myself" is distinct from all that 'Real' out there. We also think it's the most important thing (according to Lacan). Now that we have one symbol we start segmenting reality into other symbols. Other people who are like us - mom, dad, brother etc. This is the point where 'language' begins to emerge, not in the sense of words and phrases, but the idea of signs and symbols and mental representations.
However at some point we start to learn that if we do say things that are related to our mental representations, we can get what we want from Daddy. This is the Symbolic order - and it includes things like the knowledge of ideological conventions, morality, decorum - basically what being a member of society is like. It is related to Freud's Superego.
With me so far? No you're not... so maybe Zizek can help. With a consumer digital camera the 'real' refers to it's technical properties like how many pixels it has, the battery life, the dynamic range, the color response; the 'symbolic' refers to the "competitional/social" effects that possessing the camera may have; while the 'imaginary' is the "experience" possessing the camera and the attempts to realize those social effects.
A little aside, Jouissance, Jouissance is a legal term for when you have the right to exploit land, it also means 'an orgasm' but Lacan uses it figuratively to describe when the 'Real' interrupts the 'Symbolic'. Like when a successful family man raw-dogs a thai ladyboy's bussy just for the hell of it.
Now being a Fruedian, Lacan is obsessed with sexual thoughts about fathers. And just when you thought you had grasped this Triad he hits you with the 'Discourses'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:39:55 2022 No.19818847 I really want to have sex with a latina.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:40:10 2022 No.19818848 When did you stop showering with your dad/mom?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:41:29 2022 No.19818854 File: 36 KB, 400x400, s-l400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19818045 I decided to get back into photography, but the local mom & pop camera store I always used to go doesn't develop film anymore.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:43:30 2022 No.19818863

>>19818842
(2/2)
There are Four Discourses: the Master. the Slave. the Hysteric. and the Analyst.
Sounds pretty straight forward, no wait he's a French Charlatan, why would it be straight forward.
You see the Master is really the Slave.
The Father is the Master. The child is the Slave. The father makes the rules (ahhh the father imposes the Symbolic and Imaginary order on the otherwise 'real' of the Child's lives). But the father can only have Jouissance, or pleasure, through his children - he goes to work and earns a wage, he disciplines his children so that they can thrive in the Imaginary order of normal society. When they do, he has Jouissance.
The way I think about it is: Mister Burns is the Master, but he's totally helpless without his doting Slave Smithers.
Now, if you question the father's rules - you are a Hysteric. But if you question the Hysteric. You are an Analyst. Now, we rotate between the four all the time everyday.
Finally there's a whole thing about 'le petite a' and the impossibility of feeling whole which drives Joussiance.
>Note: Like I said, I don't understand it. I think the Master/Slave role inversion is very interesting, the idea of the Master needing the Slave for Jouissance is the only useful thing Lacan has ever spoken about. And I'm not familiar enough with Hegel to know if it's even his. I still don't understand the difference between the Symbolic and the Imaginary, or even which one is which. I think the Imaginary is interpersonal, and the symbolic is mental representations? Jouissance is also a slippery one. I thought it simply meant when the Master relies on the Slave to 'enjoy' something - like a man having sex with a woman to achieve orgasm, a landowner requiring serfs to work his land, or a father needing his children to get good grades so he isn't stressed about their future, but apparently it's about the Real interrupting the other orders and mixing it all up. I do know that it's connected some how with 'le petite a' which describes this sort of asymptote impossibility of ever feeling whole no matter how close you get because the Real is too unknowable to every be Symbolically ordered
let me know if this helps, it won't, I know

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:45:19 2022 No.19818871 >>19818842 >>19818863 Actually, genuinely insightful, nice effort post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:48:02 2022 No.19818882 >>19818842 >>19818863 You got a book list for this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:50:30 2022 No.19818890 >>19818883 When will mods delete the other thread? It’s just the OP samefagging.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:55:22 2022 No.19818901

>>19818795
>The question "what do you do" presupposes that your job is somehow going to provide you with ultimate life meaning.
Surnames: Baker. Smith. Taylor. Cooper, Wright, Turner, Cook, Fletcher, Hunter etc.
...your identity has always been bound in what you do, at least unless you want to be identified by who's your father or what geographical feature you live closest to: Hill, Green, Moss, Ford, Marsh etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:55:51 2022 No.19818902 >>19818697 There was a stephen king story about this. Unironically not a bad story

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 04:56:28 2022 No.19818905 >>19818871 Thank you, thought it would be interesting to see if I could make any sense of Lacan >>19818882 Sadly I do not, the difficulty of grasping his theories turned me off dedicating any serious time to reading books on the subject

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 05:42:31 2022 No.19819020 >>19818905 >Sadly I do not, Sad, I would have enjoyed it. Nonetheless, I liked your post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 05:44:26 2022 No.19819027 There are a lot of really hot Korean and Japanese guys in my neighbourhood.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 05:54:13 2022 No.19819049 >>19819027 gay

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 05:56:54 2022 No.19819055 >>19819049 Duh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 05:59:58 2022 No.19819062 >>19819055 well, what are you waiting for, ask them out.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 06:00:53 2022 No.19819066

>>19818863
Okay, Francophobe here. This was all pretty succinct, and I think I get it. I'll try to explain it to myself:
The Real is like what Morpheus showed Neo, the "desert of the real", a meaningless landscape, like objective reality (I'm thinking of what I saw when I had an psychotic episode and basically I couldn't "read" the information around me). The Imaginary is the orientated experience that revolves around recognition of the first Symbol: the Self. Then the rest of the "desert" gets compiled into other Symbols, and the person is then thrust into a Freudian motivational scheme wherein he must learn to interact with these Symbols in order to please the Father.

This triad is familiar, and just off the cuff, it sounds like the Id, Ego, Superego deal--or close enough to be an analog. The Real is the Id. The Imaginary is the Ego, and the Symbolic is a sort of Superego, but not really. Something also along the lines, but the Lacanian triad is more about reality than Freud's scheme, which was about personality.

Jouissance seems to be about revitalizing the Symbolic, for the Master, via his Slaves.

>Now, if you question the father's rules - you are a Hysteric. But if you question the Hysteric. You are an Analyst. Now, we rotate between the four all the time everyday.
That is fascinating.
>he disciplines his children so that they can thrive in the Imaginary order of normal society. When they do, he has Jouissance.
Wait, why?

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 06:17:55 2022 No.19819119

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Anonymous Thu Jan 27 06:21:36 2022 No.19819132

>>19819066
I can't remember the Matrix, but that sounds like a close enough comparison to the 'Real'.
> The Imaginary is the orientated experience that revolves around recognition of the first Symbol: the Self. Then the rest of the "desert" gets compiled into other Symbols, and the person is then thrust into a Freudian motivational scheme wherein he must learn to interact with these Symbols in order to please the Father.
Very close, and remember I'm no expert, but the core difference is you're saying that it's to please the father. It's actually using the father to get what the individual (or the child) wants.
As I understand it, the child develops the Imaginary Order - the order of social hierarchy - so as to gain the benefits of it. Dad says "if you stop complaining you're hungry and kicking the back of the seat, when we get home I'll give you a present". The motivation isn't to please father, that Symbol is a means to an end, it is to get the 'present'.
>Jouissance seems to be about revitalizing the Symbolic, for the Master, via his Slaves.
I understand it Jouissance is all about the Real not the Symbolic. It is connected to the petite a too
Now, I'm pretty sure but I could be pulling this out of my ass (wait, am I a great psychotherapist now!?) when the Slave rebels against the Master, I think then the Slave becomes the Hysteric. And there would be all this pseud stuff like
>...when the Master is confronted by the Slave who is now speaking in the discourse of the Hysteric, he is confronted with the destruction of the symbolic order and the order of the Real and it's unorganized chaos. Such as the successful businessman with three children, a pristine home, when his underaged lover threatens to tell her mother and the police about their illicit affair, the entire edifice of the Symbolic and the Imaginary threatens to crumble. As the Master of the relationship he used his lover, the Slave for Jouissance, to satisfy his need for disorder and danger in his life, but now that she has rebelled against the Master-Slave dichotomy of their relationship, she is now the Hysteric and questioning the symbolic order of his life
I still don't know what Jouissance is, but I've heard it described alternatively as when the Slave uses the Master to get what they want: such as a criminal handing himself into Police because it's safer/comfier in prison than on the lamb. But confusingly as I said above, the 'Real' entering and disrupting the symbolic order.
Now as for the discipline thing - so the Father sets the rules or punishes his children, establishing the Symbolic order - but he only gets the enjoyment of that if his children go on to have good careers and do all the things parents want for them. And apparently that too can be Jouissance...
I can't figure it out - and I've been trying to find a original quote from Lacan that distills it

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 06:23:49 2022 No.19819139

From time to time, I have intrusive thoughts with imagery and words of porn, violence, racism, misogyny, child abuse and rape. For some reason, they often come in form of songs or poems playing in my head in loop.
It started in my teenage years and originally it was only pornographic stuff, then I started browsing imageboards and the rest came. Part of the reason I'm trying to use these places less and less is in hope of getting the worse part out of my head.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 06:36:47 2022 No.19819161

>>19819066
You've got me googling now.
There is some vague similarity to what I said >>19819132 in this post... but annoyingly Lacan changed his use of the word Jouissance over the years.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/medicine/psychology/psychology-and-psychiatry/jouissance
This article breaks it into three broad strokes
The first a Hegelian Master-Slave thing but it basically means 'pleasure', hence the etymological connection to orgasm or the legal right to 'enjoy' that is make money off the land.
>Here Lacan equates jouissance with pleasure, noting the "relation between pleasure [ jouissance ] and labour" and notes that "a law is imposed upon the slave, that he should satisfy the desire and pleasure [ jouissance ] of the other"
Not satisfied with this he begins to twist it into a paradox, because there can be no pure pleasure, it is always some inversion - so Jouissance which was pleasure now becomes suffering.
Jouissance is experience when, for example, you accept death as the price of a night of sex
>"pleasure and pain are presented as a single packet to take or leave"
Now apparently "sacrificing Jouissance" (I think he's saying - sacrificing taking both pelasure and pain at once) is a precondition for entering the Symbolic order. Now it becomes associated with the petite a or the 'object' - the petite a is that thing which you can never have, which represents the insufficiency of language to ever truly replace 'the real'.
>Note: one thing I glossed over for simplicity was the subject/object/other thing in Lacan... because who the fuck cares!? Frank Zappa's "Project/Object" dichotomy is more interesting and less obscure
Now I know what you're thinking, we can never comprise a internal language sufficient enough to encapsulate all the phenomena of objective reality. Sure... but that doesn't explain why a people with perfectly successful lives would want to have illicit love affairs that could destroy their career, just because of the theoretical limits of internal language or the 'symbolic order' - yes. I'm thinking that too.
But now there's a THIRD spin on Jouissance which is something to do with how heterosexual sex, and this two genders become one, somehow offers women Jouissance... Yeah I don't get it... or maybe Lacan would say I struggling with the limitations of the Symbolic order?

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 09:35:20 2022 No.19819738
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I want to find some way of making money doing writing as an undergrad in university. I'm gonna be spending most of my summers working in a research lab but the hours aren't exactly a full time job, and I'd like to be able to do something from just my computer, though I don't really know what kind of writing to get into. Science articles for newspapers or journals? I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:03:46 2022 No.19820022 >>19818535 But what rat impregnated her?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:04:29 2022 No.19820028 >>19819139 Stop watching porn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:04:47 2022 No.19820031 >>19818586 CIA funded think tanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:05:04 2022 No.19820035 >>19818045 Optimism

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:15:12 2022 No.19820067 >>19818795 Normies adopting groid slang meaning "to scam, counterfeit" to describe their normie jobs is very demeaning and funny

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:22:17 2022 No.19820096

>>19818795
Theres some irony that the least culturally valued jobs are the ones which actually require meaningful work. I do construction work and I'm definitely looked down on for having a "low class" job. But I'm creating things. I'm maintaining things. I'm employed to actively defy entropy. I think we could learn something from the fascist theory of action to build a better culture in contrast to that A*gloid worship of wealth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 11:57:23 2022 No.19820279 >>19820022 What?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Thu Jan 27 11:58:12 2022 No.19820283 File: 140 KB, 1128x280, 49ACBC97-BC75-4FEF-99DB-DED5E49134B9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice. Thanks for the kind words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 12:11:35 2022 No.19820358 >>19820279 Your pet rat got pregnant. If you only had one pet rat, then what was it fucking?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 12:41:22 2022 No.19820489 File: 41 KB, 640x660, 423F66C4-B2B9-4EDE-8AA0-77A35FEF3D87.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19818420 Okay show us how it's done. We'll make memes about you either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 17:07:14 2022 No.19821909 >>19820035 That's not a hobby.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 17:11:11 2022 No.19821924

from all the experience I have of love. Have come to a conclusion. That I have never not loved anybody. I have loved everybody I have met especially the ones that have loved me back. I haven't had any real relationships. What I have had are intense conversations about love with 2 girls. I didn't profess my love to them, I was too scared, Still am. I did love them and I could feel the warmth from them and in some moments I had loved them more than me, but I knew somehow that if I do tell them that I loved them. I would've been a very sad person and not definitely somebody who is writing this. After I had seen them both for the last times, I have felt a great darkness cast upon me and as if I had been reborn but a with a lot of Love in my heart and I have loved everybody since. I love everybody I know. The little fake chick, The annoying depressed friend, The guy who I know since college etc. I have loved everyone from all the uncles I've met and the aunties too, My professors and chefs, The ticket collector on my bus I have loved everybody. One thing that bugged me was that I did not cry after losing those 2 friends and I pondered about it a lot. I knew people were supposed to cry after losing someone, I had seen people do it in the movies and people I knew IRL, tough and strong guys everybody cried. So, why didn't I? I thought maybe I should drink cuz you know Devdas and so I drank and I didn't cry. Then I thought maybe I should got on a solo trip that's when people have realizations and shit right ZNMD, Dil chahta hai. So I did and nothing happened but I noticed something while drinking and travelling. I haven't cried cuz there was nothing to cry about, I hadn't lost anything and neither had they. I still loved them the same. They had left me sure but not really, I still remember their voice, I still remember their faces and laughs. the smiles and and the laughs, I remember it all, They're still there in myself in my soul. Even if we can't see each other and can't ever be together physically I know we are connected with Love. So how could I be sad at all, How can I be gloomy and restless. I have so much intense love to give, I can't stop it. I even shudder to think how much love am I capable of when I truly someone else....

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 17:32:05 2022 No.19822035 >>19821924 OP here, Is this a cope??

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 19:06:47 2022 No.19822546 >>19818420 Why is her ear so weird? The longer I look the weirder it gets

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 20:53:44 2022 No.19823018
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>art is dead
>philosophy is dead
>religion is dead
>God is dead
>Patriotism is dead
>Virtue is dead
>The family is dead
>All formerly living traditions are dead
What the fuck is a man supposed to believe in? There is nothing left to have faith in. Are we just supposed to worship money and sex now? Is that all life ever was? No ideals make sense anymore. I can't fucking go back to believing things that history has apparently proven were just a phase and I know aren't true. Nothing is true. I don't believe even in logic anymore. The only thing we have proved is that nothing can be proved. There are no rituals, there is no initiation into anything, there are no kinsmen or countrymen, men are reduced to animals, and now not only are individuals mortal but the entire species and earth is, so you can't even have faith in any future. I can't stop seeking God and Virtue and the Good but without believing in any of those things or having any faith it is a doomed enterprise. There are no holy men or institutions, there's nothing. Knowledge has been proven impossible and so we just keep using a heuristic algorithm known as science to make the world emptier and emptier and gain more meaningless wealth and luxury

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 20:55:08 2022 No.19823024 >>19823018 and yeah whatever I'm a century late to the fucking party

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 20:59:58 2022 No.19823043 File: 15 KB, 512x480, 1643331256655.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wrote this like an hour ago, posted in /write/ general and got no response, what do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 21:08:30 2022 No.19823085 >>19823043 Pretty lame

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 21:34:08 2022 No.19823223 >>19823085 how come?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 21:51:06 2022 No.19823310 >>19823018 >>art is dead >>philosophy is dead >>religion is dead >>God is dead >>Patriotism is dead >>Virtue is dead >>The family is dead I believe in all those things and in my life and experience, they are all alive and well.

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:02:56 2022 No.19823365

>>19823018
>>art is dead
Meaningless statement. Art is a social convention. Saying 'art is dead' is like saying 'baths are dead'. People still take baths.
>philosophy is dead
Again, a meaningless statement. What does this mean? What would philosophy 'living' look like? There are more people who have read Plato in the last 50 years than the entirety of history. There is more literature on philosophy being produced than ever because of our bloated academia. When you say "philosophy is dead" other than a personal value statement what does this really mean?
>religion is dead
demographers predict that theists will outnumber all others by 2050. Religion is well alive
>Patriotism is dead
Okay, maybe this is true. The Cold War eliminated the perceived existential threat to the United States... but even then do you know how much more patriotic even woke multi-cultural America is compared to other countries?
>>Virtue is dead
When was it alive?
>>The family is dead
It died in the 50's bro when they created the nuclear family.
>>All formerly living traditions are dead
Categorically wrong. People still get baptized in their millions. War is still a thing. Proms, Debutant Balls, 21st birthday parties, funerals, New Years celebrations, Easter, Hannukah, Ramadan... the list goes on and on and on
> There is nothing left to have faith in.
Well nearly everything you believe is 'dead' isn't - so perhaps your beliefs are limiting you
>Are we just supposed to worship money and sex now? Is that all life ever was?
No. Who told you you have to worship it? Or is this a inference you've made based on the mass-media which doesn't reflect real life?
>The only thing we have proved is that nothing can be proved
Great - believe whatever the fuck you want? Be a schizo... what's wrong with that? If nothing can be proved, then surely reality is so malleble that it's easy?
What are you saying that there are realistic constrictions on your own thoughts, perhaps structural neurochemical results of a material and objective reality outside of your own with certain predictable laws and phenomena? That your inability to change your own mind at a whim is knowledge? hmmmm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:05:30 2022 No.19823377 File: 106 KB, 640x713, zoomer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19823018 >is dead >is dead >is dead tfw born in wrong generation

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:07:14 2022 No.19823388 >>19823377 Red Hot Chili Peppers has maybe 5 good songs. Everything else is shit

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:11:45 2022 No.19823410
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>>19823018
you realise we're just one cnn news update away from the next big movement that will change humanity.

all of those things you've listed were alive for a reason, because they were useful AND provided joy.
now we have the internet connected to us at all times by our smartphones that provide all the details we would ever need.
think about the woke movement, it is basically politics for children. authoritarian psychology applied to liberalism, we dont know just how impactful this will become when even the younger generation begin to become educated and invested into politics
money is becoming the great divider as it used to be, with wealth so excessive that it can change the world.

it just takes one godfigure like elon musk to usher in a new age of power through technology and science.
you're just disillusioned to these manifests because they're so soulless. but why do you think so many questioned the church and god for so long if it wasn't inherently a soulless money vacuum pedo machine to instill fear into the masses?

you're defining things at their peak social value instead of taking them as they are, brutal coping mechanisms of reality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:15:18 2022 No.19823429 >>19823388 precisely the point, the meme wouldn't be mocking the anon if it wasn't a middle-of-the-road band.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:21:50 2022 No.19823463 >>19823429 Oh I understand now. Thanks for explaining

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:23:34 2022 No.19823475 >>19823365 based bloomer

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Thu Jan 27 22:36:12 2022 No.19823544 >>19823388 >5 good songs That’s very generous of you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:38:55 2022 No.19823554 >>19823544 Yes I was being generous actually

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 22:42:22 2022 No.19823571 >>19823223 it doesnt flow, it's way too edgy. it's not even slightly timeless and sounds like you're trying way too hard to paint a picture instead of painting with words 2017 betalord

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:26:02 2022 No.19823755 File: 30 KB, 720x360, wish flower.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is not the fantasy romance my brain is spinning it as. I wish it was. I am a stone in a river.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:31:00 2022 No.19823773 File: 60 KB, 671x456, C0676825-2FD0-4319-B5C6-A7517AFB0BB2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you could live anywhere in the US, where would you want to live? For me, it’s Orlando or Las Vegas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:34:51 2022 No.19823797 >>19823773 Both those places are dirty shit holes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:37:32 2022 No.19823817 >>19823797 That’s pretty much every city though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:39:18 2022 No.19823824 >>19818045 >>19818854 dang same.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 23:59:34 2022 No.19823890 >>19823571 what do you consider timeless?

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:07:28 2022 No.19823915
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I think i need to get back on antidepressants, I stopped them during the lockdown. I thought i was doing better off the meds but I realize now that it was because I had an excuse to stay at home and not socialise. I was like everyone else.

When everything got open again, the mental illnesses started spiraling out of control. Whatever I do, it's just never good enough. I have these incredibly high standards that I can never meet; they might be impossible but I still believe one can achieve them. But not me, i'm mediocre at best. I get these fuckin obssesion over every little things for example, I have been obsessing over a fuckin haircut for the last 3 months.

Yet, I also realize that it's all in my head and that all this self-loathing is just shooting myself in the foot but I can't seem to stop it. My mood is just all over the place. I'm tired of being like this. I feel like i'm going crazy.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:11:00 2022 No.19823928
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At what point should you accept to abandon your dreams/aspirations and realize that you will never amount to a 1/10 of what you envision in your head? This NEET life has gotten a stranglehold on me.
This post may have been written while a few tears were being shed.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:14:23 2022 No.19823943
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Everybody keeps waiting for something "really bad" to happen to come and abrogate them of responsibilities and expectations but that will never happen. We are two years into a pandemic that affected virtually everybody's lives in some way but unless you literally died then things are still fundamentally the same and that's because regardless of what happens around you, you are still you and you still suck and are miserable. Maybe a war will come, but you won't fight in it. Maybe a drone will reduce your town hall to rubble but still nothing about your life will fundamentally change. Your mother and father will die and you will grieve that for a while but eventually things will return to normal and you'll have to go on with all the mundane bullshit like you always did. Don't get me wrong, things are and will continue to get worse, but in the least exciting way possible.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:15:00 2022 No.19823947

I'm experiencing existential dread
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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:16:23 2022 No.19823953 >>19823890 something as mainstream as the raven The Destruction of Sennacherib the timing and language has to be beyond the current scope of just speaking. it almost sounded as if you were complaining but im just saying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:20:08 2022 No.19823965 >>19823943 it's just another escapist, heroic fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:31:17 2022 No.19823997 >>19823953 holy cringe

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:55:24 2022 No.19824047

I can never tell if I am dealing well with 'muh anxiety' or if I'm just pushing it down only for it resurface later. I dealt with a really severe panic attack for the first week of this year and I feel a lot calmer as the month comes to an end, but I can't tell if I am really calm or if I just successfully repressed everything that was making me stressed. I hate being unable to trust my own feelings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 00:56:09 2022 No.19824048 >>19818045 3d modeling historical sights

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:00:54 2022 No.19824057
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Why do I have such a low self worth of myself? I simply cannot fathom the idea that anybody would be attracted to or want to spend time with me when they could be doing anything else. Even if I end up obviously attracting somebody I tell myself I only tricked them somehow and I'll be exposed very soon. This also goes for friendly relations, I cannot accept that anybody would seriously want to be my friend. I feel like an inferior and pathetic being below everybody. When people see me I assume they see me with distaste, if they are nice it is because they have pity or just politeness
I have had people tell me I am attractive and handsome. I have had friends before. I think myself an interesting person and decent conversationalist. I have good hygiene and dress well. I am a student at a good university. I am reasonably intelligent. But why does all of this disappear the second I'm actually in the moment? Why do I hate myself?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:02:31 2022 No.19824059 >>19823928 What are your dreams and current circumstances

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:06:22 2022 No.19824071

>>19823773
If I was older and into rural living there are plenty of places to choose but I enjoy urban settings quite a bit and at this point I seriously cannot think of one single city in the USA I would want to live in. If they don't have the inherent obvious problems that comes with American urban planning for the majority of cities, they have a ton of other issues that makes living there unbearable. Really, if I was going to stay in the USA I would want to live where all my family and friends are, as well as opportunities for professional and personal projects.
I'm 24 now and always wanted to live in NYC for a little while, feel like its something I should get out of my system. Will probably hate it but I still have that urge. So to answer your question, I would choose NYC

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:07:43 2022 No.19824076 >>19824057 tell me about your childhood, parents and any trauma you know or remember.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:12:15 2022 No.19824091 https://youtu.be/RvnkAtWcKYg this video is a fucking time capsule

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:14:19 2022 No.19824096

>>19824076
I actually have trouble remembering my childhood, but its pretty typical. I had nice non abusive parents in an upper middle class income bracket. Family divorced when I was in my early teens, have an older brother who can be described as the complete opposite of me. The life of the party in every room he's in. Not the smartest in the autistic sense, but a person made for this world. Most of my life, especially going through school, I was known as "____'s brother"
Was quite and reserved growing up, entertained myself. Had a close extended family with kids my age. Periods of time when I had trouble making friends and then some periods where I made a friend group and funny enough became the "alpha"(cringe term but no other way to describe it) of the group with them blowing smoke up my ass. But that's pretty far gone now, I've been alone in recent memory
That's really all I have. I grew up in a catholic household, catholic school. Also, I'm an Arab

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:28:44 2022 No.19824133

>>19824057
You are a narcissist, that's why. I don't mean that as an attack at all, but I think it is worth acknowledging. You define yourself by how you expect others to see you - intelligence, good school, good looks, good conversationalist. All these things SHOULD make you attractive to other people... and maybe sometimes they even do! But why do I still feel like shit? Because you built the foundation of your personality upon trying to appear worthwhile to other people and at the end of the day that's a hollow foundation.

But what's the alternative? I guess 'self-love'. Doing things for their own sake? It all sounds nice but I don't think it's really true - we are social creatures who desire the approval of others.

What I think it comes down to is perpetual dissatisfaction with unrealised potential. Maybe it's a potential that you can't even name. It's not even 'oh I would *like* to be this way, because you don't know what that version of yourself even looks like.

A personal realisation I had recently was that low self worth comes partially from comparing yourself to others. It is not always a conscious comparison being made - i.e. you may not literally be thinking 'I wish I was that other guy' etc. - but it can be occurring on a micro, repeated level that ads up to a sense of dissatisfaction with oneself.

I think I have a tendency to silently idolise other people - not necessarily people I know, mind you, it could be celebrities or artists (or authors) I admire. Or it could be people I know in person as well. In any case, I realised how stupid it was to idolise other people because you are essentially suggesting to yourself that they are somehow fundamentally different to you. Sure, people have different temperaments and these affect the way that we present ourselves to others or the careers / interests etc. we pursue, but these temperaments are not rigid and immutable. Every other person that you see and admire is just a person like you. It sounds like a truism, but they are just as flawed as you too. They are not special, they are just other people doing things. You can do those things too.

Do you like your friends? Do you think they are admirable people - even if they are flawed? Give yourself the same benefit of the doubt that you give them. You say you have good qualities and I believe you. Give yourself credit for those good qualities.

People say you need to love yourself before you can expect other people to love you. I think it's the other way around. You need to love others FOR WHO THEY ARE and love them unselfishly, un-narcissistically. Then apply that same love to yourself. Then you might find a modicum of satisfaction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:30:49 2022 No.19824137 File: 39 KB, 333x500, walkscapes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >walking makes you an artist and an architect Is this true?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:43:02 2022 No.19824165 >>19824133 You are correct about all of this anon. I don't really know what to say in response except thank you for the post. I will think on it for a while and start building some self awareness of my bad mental habits

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:50:14 2022 No.19824189

just quit all my classes again in uni. gonna take a break for some time, maybe apply to some jobs. i get nothing done in terms of completing my degree and now that things are probably going to get more "normal" i'm gonna become even more depressed and disappointed in myself.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 01:50:46 2022 No.19824194

>>19824096
>divorce
>shadow of older brother
>niche religioun and race where you're pretty pinholed into being very cleancut

each of these have had an effect on your sense of self worth, the divorce is your own unique view into relationships and how they function. that you dont have a stable foundation to work off of, you doubt yourself.
you've been in the shadow of your older brother which undoubtedly affects your self-image
you dont have a place you can truly fit in, because of who you are, not that you stand out too much but people aren't the exact same as you and there's a divide in your ability to find attachment with people

you've got to find a good role model to base your relationships off, or at least envision a realistic enough model in your mind to be able to function in one.
you need to develop your own identity where you don't necessarily compete with your older brother, but there's nothing wrong with always feeling liek you could be more desu
developing your identity further will allow you to connect with people and live beyond the fact that you are "raised catholic and an arab". but these things also give you an option for who to connect with, other people who are like you or in your area of interest for potential partners

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 03:31:05 2022 No.19824432 >>19824048 very cool. do you have any photos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 07:33:46 2022 No.19825296 >>19818420 turn 18

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 08:01:21 2022 No.19825397
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I hate this masturbation habit so fucking much. I've been doing this for like 6 years now, fuck. I would just lay in bed rubbing my dick, just edging over and over again for hours on end, sometimes I do it for like 6 to 10 hours. When I'm done I'm not only drenched, but physically fatigued like you wouldn't believe. I slump into a deep sleep afterwards, but when I wake up I'm just not right. I've seen people describe it as brain fog, but that's not it really. It's more like I'm demotivated, blank, and I just can't muster any will power to do anything whatsoever. So a single masturbation session like this can put me out of order for like two days. Fuck. I don't even watch porn, I just edge to my imagination, and no amount of remorse or willpower can prevent me from doing so. The urge to masturbate is just outright demonic, it grips you and never lets go, washing away all your hesitation and willpower like they were nothing. It changes your mood in a way that's just inescapable, two days ago you felt terrible for wasting your days masturbating, now masturbation doesn't look too bad, it's really fun, you'll be quick this time, you won't overdo it, but inevitably, inexorably even, you end up doing just that. Fuck.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 08:03:25 2022 No.19825409

>>19824432
Its linked to my portfolio which I am using for other ventures so I don't want to link that to 4chan, hope you understand. Latest project is Abbasid Baghdad which is fun because not much survived but written descriptions so it gives me more creative freedom
Last project I did recreated 14th century Florence, time of Dante which would have looked very different from what you think of Florence today

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 08:08:20 2022 No.19825422 I don’t know what my next move is. I’m considering law school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 08:11:38 2022 No.19825441 >>19825422 if its not at least top 30-40 school do not go if its not a top 20, think deeply on it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 08:21:53 2022 No.19825504 I love pink color.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:18:56 2022 No.19825759

it was a complete toxic mess. I'm better off. She should be better off, although I'm not completely sure she has realized this. I hope I don't see her again.
This means that I know very little about women, since it took me so long to realize all of this and since it constitutes most of my experience with them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:24:39 2022 No.19825783 I really really dislike the United States.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:29:16 2022 No.19825806 even the majority dont rrally know how i feel so the majority is sinful and full of evil and unsaved per their ruling thus they deserve it all hehe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:30:56 2022 No.19825816 I cant stop chugging energy drinks. Yes, I know it's a terrible beverage. Yes, I know I should drink water. However, I still buy it everyday (sometimes twice)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:36:05 2022 No.19825843 >>19823928 you do have good taste in footy videogames

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 09:51:34 2022 No.19825904 I'm alone and useless. How did things come to this? When did it go all wrong?

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:01:11 2022 No.19825945

>>19825783
Whenever I come to the conclusion that I dislike or even hate something, I like to do a little exercise with myself and, if you will, I'll do it with you over your post.
I always try to find something I like about, even if it is a little thing. So, is there something you like about the United States? One state in particular, some region, animal, a kind of food, genre of music, someone from there, whatever. Is there something you like about it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:25:39 2022 No.19826040 I havent changed my underwear in three days

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:30:38 2022 No.19826060 >>19826040 describe the underwear

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:32:16 2022 No.19826067

Truth, well…life is a becoming towards death. If you want an eternal objective truth about existence in relation to reality and the universe, we are predisposed to never observe, perceive or understand such a truth. Because we are limited by certain conditions that belong to the human condition.
We are spatiotemporal beings that decay towards a more natural state of being, that of death. Life and existence is so abnormal that it constantly strives towards a more natural state of nothingness/non-existence.

How do you respond?

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:34:58 2022 No.19826076

So recently I’ve started going to a gym, and in this gym they play both Fox and CNN on the TVs. I don’t watch these channels but yesterday I observed them to see what sort of news the average American consumes.

To be honest, it’s amazing how similar they are. On both, the people involved are mostly of the “target demographic”: most people on CNN are Black and most on Fox are White or Hispanic. The tone of these channels is similar as well: somewhat accusatory is the way I’d put it. They literally play clips from each other’s channels to mock and call out for hypocrisy. On foreign affairs they pretty much say the same exact thing, although Fox focused more on China and CNN on Russia. It’s like watching the world through two sunglasses of slightly different tints.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:39:41 2022 No.19826094

>>19823018
>men are reduced to animals
>hahaha look at that primitivist faggot
you are insufferable.
we ARE animals and we BELONG in the wild.
we are programmed by nature to live in the wild to be satisfied. not spend all day long inside walls lokking at screens.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:42:41 2022 No.19826104

>>19825422
For something which is such a large commitment - ask yourself: 1) is a legal career the best use of your skills 2) do you have the temperament for both law school and then a legal career?

Since it is such a big commitment I would advise against it if you are uncertain on any of those two points. If you decide, no to either of those questions, ask yourself what the best use of your skills are and what career would suit your temperament.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:43:54 2022 No.19826110 >>19826076 >somewhat accusatory is the way I’d put it that is a good way to put it. not accusatory enough to open themselves up to real accusation, but it's still definitely there

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:49:03 2022 No.19826132 >>19826060 Red checkered boxer shorts

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:50:45 2022 No.19826141 >>19826076 Our news media fully embraced shit flinging around 2015. Its like the killstream for boomers. And I do think internet media lowered the bar

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:53:46 2022 No.19826152 File: 120 KB, 1280x720, IMG_20220128_074818_211.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who else here /comfy/

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 10:58:10 2022 No.19826167

What comes after Postmodernism, is it just more Postmodernism? Surely enough people have caught on to something in the wild experiences of the 21st century to where they see the world in a new way. I just dont know where to begin because Postmodernism is more broad than I understand right now and things like Post-irony have been called non-responses or postmodern anyways. Is there a new mindset in litetature taking hold and how many years of history is it going to upend? What would it be reacting to exactly and what style would it put forth? All I know is I'm sick of low wit and cynicism, even being somewhat negative Ive grown tired of the moaning and doomposting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:01:10 2022 No.19826181 File: 32 KB, 225x350, TRUTH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] for an instant before sleep i think about her and die surely as the summer dies and winter arrives

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:02:52 2022 No.19826188 >>19826167 I just hope that new Renaissance happens.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:11:18 2022 No.19826230

>>19826188
I'm doing my best to capture the feelings to set the stage for it but alas I'm a brainlet. Maybe I will have bigger ideas later but now I can only say that obstinacy is a virtue and cooperation given enough time is the same as corruption. Milton was right to say Peace corrupts as War wastes.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:12:28 2022 No.19826235

>>19826167
I don't believe a new artistic or postmodern moment is possible without a fundamental, transformational change to society at large. Postmodernism is the byproduct of secular globalism - until that is no longer the predominant trend of society you will be stuck with it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:13:59 2022 No.19826244
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i am looking for a book ive read a few years back but i cant remember the author or its title. ive tried searching on google by its plot with no avail. the plot goes like this: a young man is recruited as a guard to a castle in the mountains. the castles oversees a desert. he doesnt like it that much there and is patiently waiting for his first year to pass so he can return home. after one year passes he chooses to stay for one more year, then other guards tell him that he will never go home again. the entire book has no people names, location names, exact years etc., its just a monotonous description of the main characters' thoughts, what he's seeing, what he remembers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:21:44 2022 No.19826284 >>19826167 Post-postmodernism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:22:29 2022 No.19826291 >>19826244 Tatar Steppe by Buzzati

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:27:00 2022 No.19826319 >>19826291 thanks a lot king

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:43:44 2022 No.19826429 >>19826188 Not renaissance. We are in the New Antiquity.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:45:16 2022 No.19826446

>>19826167
>Is there a new mindset in litetature taking hold and how many years of history is it going to upend? What would it be reacting to exactly and what style would it put forth?
It would not be reacting to anything, but it would be SYNTHETIC - like gesamutkunstwerk - the only art possible in a world of information "overload" is synthetic of course.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:46:56 2022 No.19826458 >>19826446 Gesamtkunstwerk*

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:48:40 2022 No.19826470 Anyone else here /rat/ getting ahead not by excellence but by persisting any hint of shame completely eclipsed by the drive to survive?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:54:11 2022 No.19826505 I eat the cum after jacking off. I dont waste the goods.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 11:59:23 2022 No.19826543 >>19818034 not sure I could come up with anything, but what's the best spices you can use for food and what to avoid?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:00:24 2022 No.19826549 >>19823388 Their early stuff > what they do now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:04:00 2022 No.19826569 >>19826505 That's cannibalism

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:06:56 2022 No.19826585
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I hate to admit this, it is so pathetic, but I crave attention and social interaction. All my life I have considered myself an intense introvert, a loner, an outcast that just wanted to be alone forever and that was proud of how lonely I was. But the truth is that it was all an amour to hide the low self-esteem, crippling fear, anxiety and this tendency, voluntary or involuntary, of pushing people away one way or an other. I want people, I like to talk to people and I want them to talk to me, I just can't get it to work, I am worthless, ugly, social cripple. This pandemics and my life collapsing in the last years forced me to confront this, to realize this.
This website is a great proof, all my posts (including this one) and threads are made with hope that someone will reply, that someone will talk to me. I come back from time to time to check and if someone did reply I'll have a moment of happiness that someone wants to interact with me, that a conversation might come out of this. Someone took the time and attention to read what I had to say and is talking to me. And every time I check and no one replied I'll feel sad and empty for a moment.
This is all so pathetic, all my life I saw being introverted, independent, self-sufficient as a virtue, something to admire, and in the end I'm not that, I'm only pretending for the sake coping with my fears and insecurities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:08:08 2022 No.19826592 >>19826569 And Im an ouroboros.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:09:25 2022 No.19826601

>>19826585
>I hate to admit this, it is so pathetic, but I crave attention and social interaction.
It's not pathetic, it's healthy. Humans are social creatures.

>This website is a great proof, all my posts (including this one) and threads are made with hope that someone will reply, that someone will talk to me. I come back from time to time to check and if someone did reply I'll have a moment of happiness that someone wants to interact with me, that a conversation might come out of this. Someone took the time and attention to read what I had to say and is talking to me. And every time I check and no one replied I'll feel sad and empty for a moment.
I feel it too and I think most people do. It's why people bait for (You)s after all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:19:52 2022 No.19826644 >>19826585 Why is this pathetic? Man is a social animal. All you've done is realized you were immature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:27:17 2022 No.19826688 >>19826104 I am uncertain but you imply there’s certainly somewhere else and I just don’t think there is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 12:31:33 2022 No.19826707 >>19826167 Nothing. Post-modernism is modernism waking up to the fact that it’s all over.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 13:15:21 2022 No.19826901

>>19826601
Thanks.

>>19826644
>Why is this pathetic?
I guess I'm still reconsidering things and feelings. I always felt contempt for people that are very social, seeing them as shallow and less thoughtful and to view wanting attention of any sort as only attention whoring. I can't help but to feel a bit of this even now, even though I can see it was mostly a cope mechanism. It is part of me, I've lived with this since childhood.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 13:39:26 2022 No.19827028 >>19826585 you an just about everyone on 4chan who pats themselves on the back for not being a normie or spending years and years of their life alone

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:05:24 2022 No.19827158 File: 7 KB, 292x173, 06EEAC7E-0F12-45F2-87FA-782BBDF5B3BE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What kind of music do you guys listen to? I like soul.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:05:47 2022 No.19827159

>technically make slightly above average pay but living in utter poverty because very high cost of living area
>cannot afford a house, houses are literally 800k here for a "modest starter home" which is probably a fucking condo anyway
>nothing cheaper than 400k and that gets you at best a 1 bd apartment
>work remote
>thinking of, once married and have an established career, moving to a red state and buying a house for 250k
>going to be THAT asshole
>already picked out a state and area I like, familiar with that area
>spend time every week or so browsing houses there dreamily, everything is so affordable

yeah hope those poorfaggots deal with it. i have the right to an affordable home.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:08:40 2022 No.19827176

>>19827159
also going to say, boomers made housing unaffordable for us, then they keep cheap housing restricted in 55+ communities. whenever i see a house listed for ridiculously cheap (usually a trailer or condo) it's in a 55+ and i'm not even allowed to buy it. blatant age discrimination that boomers get away with. i hope they all die choking on their own blood.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:08:40 2022 No.19827177 >>19827158 2010s emo is my latest phase

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:17:10 2022 No.19827217

I should let her hate me as much as she hates me. she probably should hate me, but it's hard for me to say, really. if she's happy to see me then that's her business, but I should assume it's best we never see eachother again. Now it's just for me to figure out what I am without her. gotta go way back.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:24:40 2022 No.19827245

I used to kiss her forehead while she slept. She probably knew this to an extent. Sometimes she'd wake up and sort of twist around a bit and groan out a happy "Hhhhhhhhi" to which I would probably reply "Hi.. sorry." She'd give a lazy, wide smile and say "that's ok" and crawl into my arms. But most of the time she would not wake up. Her forehead was always weaty when she had slept a while, and her hair clung to it, so I had to kiss her though her hair. I think she'd usually sort of grunt in response in her sleep. I would then stroke her cheek and tell I her I loved her. She'd twitch and sort of smack her mouth before turning over and away from me. I would kiss her shoulder lightly and come in and spoon her, and tell her again very softly while holding her closer. She would whimper, not unlike a newborn. This would satisfy me, and I would stay there holding her. This happened many times, and she doesn't know. I did it for two reasons. The first reason was that I hoped it would give her good dreams. The second reason was that it was hard not to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:26:09 2022 No.19827252 File: 71 KB, 655x468, images - 2022-01-28T202502.392.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19827158 sad bastard music of this sort. poison, really. the lyrics to this is the day are especially dangerous.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:26:53 2022 No.19827258

I was in the library last night and found a book with my name on the cover and nothing else. When I opened it there was a hyperrealistic image of my face and what I thought was real blood before I quickly shut the book and rushed out the library. I keep seeing moving shadows in the corners of my room, but that might just be my imagination after getting that scare from the strange book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:28:44 2022 No.19827265 >>19827158 Psychedelic/stoner rock Listen to Spaceslug, they are good

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:30:12 2022 No.19827273

>>19827158
Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:35:31 2022 No.19827291 >>19827273 >Captain Beefheart >Frank Zappa >The Residents why are you so intense?

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:45:25 2022 No.19827332

>remember when my sister left when I was 13
>she wasn't gone all the time but she was gone a lot
>we stopped hanging out
>we used to play final fantasy together
>remember understanding why she had to go, not complaining
>remember feeling abandoned
>remember feeling abandoned
>imagine telling her this
>begin to whimper
>full on crying, not for long but shaking crying remembering how I felt when she left
>first time I cried about this, don't think I even did then
>31 years old

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:50:16 2022 No.19827344 >>19827291 Never speak to me ever again. Or else you'll regret it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:50:59 2022 No.19827346 Might as well not think at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5J-1t3K_Mk

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:52:18 2022 No.19827355 >>19827344 same question

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:55:14 2022 No.19827366 >>19827346 great album. i really like come a little dog from it, it emulates a very forlorn type of insanity. >>19827332 based sibling love

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:58:03 2022 No.19827381 [DELETED]

>>19827355
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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 14:59:49 2022 No.19827393 >>19827381 same question If you don't reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep tonight

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:02:10 2022 No.19827406 >>19827393 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs0CtITl-xY

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:05:17 2022 No.19827425 >>19827406 what is she singing? it's pretty intense

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:09:13 2022 No.19827442 >>19827425 I don't know Greek.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:09:14 2022 No.19827443 >>19827273 Boner fuel

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:19:47 2022 No.19827495

>>19827158
Free jazz and fusion, contemporary classical, Renaissance choral music, thrash/death/black metal, grind core, powerviolence, emo (both skramz and Midwest/indie emo, noise rock, experimental industrial, harsh noise, neofolk, ambient music, psych rock and prog (especially rock in opposition and krautrock), 80s hard-core punk, UK77 punk, US77 punk, synth pop, new wave, post punk, garage rock, drone music, power electronics, ebm, breakcore, speedcore, extra tone, crust punk, power/speed metal, shred/instrumental music, post rock, math rock, Motown, boomer rock, indo-raga music, doom metal, stoner rock, beat down hard-core, youth crew hardcore, crossover thrash, some disco, 80s rap, g funk, drum n bass, techno, electroacoustic music, I think that's about it

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:19:49 2022 No.19827497

>>19823773
Northeast or Pacific Northwest. If I have to live in this country, discard of me in one of its attics, and let me make my summer with my own coals.
>>19827273
I know this is a copypasta, but I believe Sun City Girls and Rabelais were spat out of the same stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:20:48 2022 No.19827501 >>19826585 Relateable

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:22:02 2022 No.19827508 >>19827497 Sun City Girls are legit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:30:16 2022 No.19827547 >>19818045 pottery/ceramics. i wanna master the shit out of it so i can outskill soccer moms and pinterest hoes on etsy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:32:30 2022 No.19827559 I want to kiss a girl at least once in my dear life, but it is so that in want of strong will to duly approach my wish there is no chance. Perhaps Butterfly can help in my need and grant her beautiful lips to my desire.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:40:51 2022 No.19827590 Maron named his cats "Monkey" and "LaFonda". Really fucking good cat names if you ask me.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 15:42:50 2022 No.19827598

I fell down at a clown emporium and all the clowns said to me to turn my frown upside down and I got mad and threw a fit and they threw me out of the clown emporium so I had to sit on my broken bum next to a bum at the bus stop and I couldn't stop breaking down crying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:00:16 2022 No.19827704 >>19823773 Old rural New England, do not yet have the money but will soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:04:41 2022 No.19827734 >>19823773 grand teton

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:18:14 2022 No.19827813 >>19826076 My gym does the same thing. I can't stand that fake "concerned face" all the anchors do, it's insufferable to even look at.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:20:52 2022 No.19827828 >>19827252 Uncertain Smile will forever remind me of the day I tried to kill myself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:25:03 2022 No.19827851 >>19823018 >Are we just supposed to worship money and sex now? that just plays into the hands of the elites. def. don't wanna do that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:27:59 2022 No.19827866 >>19826429 I always thought, at least in America, that the progressive era was our Renaissance. this is just the late Enlightenment, then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:29:01 2022 No.19827876 >>19827176 holy shit why is that not illegal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:35:22 2022 No.19827915 >>19827876 something something democracy is two wolves and a sheep something something politicians themselves are all boomers something something chronos eating his children so yeah, if you hear about elder abuse in nursing homes, CELEBRATE.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:38:32 2022 No.19827935 >>19827158 Synthwave, Folk, Indie Rock/Pop/Electronica, Dreampop, Hardstyle, Ethereal, Ambient, Post-Punk the first that came to mind

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:52:26 2022 No.19828003 >>19827158 I really like the band Future of the Left.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:54:34 2022 No.19828016 File: 185 KB, 265x376, Otoyomegatari_volume_1_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How come this manga of this woman's sexual fantasy with a 12 year old boy gets so much praise, but the reverse scenario gets controversy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:59:59 2022 No.19828049 File: 135 KB, 1200x675, ted_kaczynski_harvard_g-594372140.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks like new ted k kino is on the menu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoodhA5DuGk

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:05:42 2022 No.19828070

>>19828016
their relationship isn't lewd or in any way sexualized, such as male pedo coomers write.
the manga has artistic qualities and a much wider story, of which the relationship is only a small part
the 12 year old male in question is fully dressed, respected, given agency, and not sexualized
the story is not vulgar
she's only, what, 18 or 20? its' not a 28 year old with a 12 year old like the reverse case's typical routine
/ss/ is patrician and male pedos are cringe losers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:40:51 2022 No.19828214 File: 1.15 MB, 1000x1250, 29583a1557438664f311616665.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19828070 Good artistic comics can have sexualized, nude, young girls. Like this: https://comicfury.com/read/chromefetus/comics/1006115

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:56:47 2022 No.19828304 >>19827258 this was cool to read

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:57:30 2022 No.19828312

>>19818034
Is it normal to think sad thoughts when one is physically tired or ill? I feel okay most of the time, but when I am high I feel quite miserable. I don't know if this means I have some kind of concealed depression, or at the very least unresolved trauma. I would utilize it for my creative endeavors but I mostly just waste time through escapist timesinks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:59:42 2022 No.19828323 I asked a girl out on a date this evening and she said yes; now I'm nervous and wish I hadn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:01:40 2022 No.19828338 >>19827158 UK Drill, Deftones, and Unwound is all I've listened to for months

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:11:00 2022 No.19828392 >>19828323 You'll be fine, just be yourself

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:15:04 2022 No.19828417

>>19828323
That's the best way to learn to do things outside your comfort zone, it's like ratcheting yourself up to something you can't reach in a single leap. In that moment you had more balls than brains and did something you weren't strictly speaking ready for. Now you have more brains than balls and you feel regret, but you're already committed, and it would be more humiliating to bail out than to stick with it and go. It may be painful but you are committed. The experience you get from the date will grow both your balls and your brain, and you will go on to greater challenges in the future as your balls get you into even more problems your brain then has to solve.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:18:08 2022 No.19828430 >>19828214 that isn't "good" it's perversion and disgusting

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:19:08 2022 No.19828436 I am a dumbass loser.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:19:46 2022 No.19828441 i cannot literally sit here and do work constantly for 8 hours straight of boring repetiive difficult crap how the fuck is this okay

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:26:33 2022 No.19828475 >>19828417 not that anon but excellent way of putting it

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 18:28:59 2022 No.19828490

A free verse poem

faring far across the river-narrow,
in the distance the monkeys scream,
I hear the kakkle of the sparrow,
for a moment I am lost in dream.

crackle crackle sere and supple,
as a drunk man the vision tumbles,
rumble bubble rumble burst,
as a drunk man I quench my thirst.

bumbling a mumbled song of mirth,
I murmur along with the earth,
twitching and twisting still I go speaking
witless as a weir-less creek in its creeking.

rest, peace to my breast, yes, This is the best,
to be quiet though riot the four winds,
to sigh “its silent” and see all vibrant,
the small bird and the roaring beast at peace.

A Spenserian sonnet

the massy soul, the mirry flame, the snarling Eye.
entombed and enthroned upon a pleasure palace,
i gaze with gibbering the gibbous earth and sky,
I am flame they are flame, both bound in paralyse.

the sary heart, the drooping phiz, the sloven sigh,
the bruckle mind is right to sacrifice for wit,
the broken body right to mourn but not to cry,
unceasing tears for the dreary, theirs is the pit.

the Mammet God, the noxious air, the hollow bit,
by stones engraven with the face of mammon old,
one makes each breath as sullen as the sallow knit,
the twilit twilt of sorrow faced atropos cold.

i am the tent of ten where dwells the one,
i am the void place and the invisible sun

a villanelle

the seals of sigils of letters bespoke
the welkin white with swevens dreamt with blithe,
in midnight mirage of light, I invoke.
God of the cremation ground, God of Smoke,
you who bears the skullcup, with ash I write;
the seals of sigils of letters bespoke
my oaths of throat that croak the troth of oak
and acacia, those groves where play the sprite
in midnight mirage of light, I invoke
the many jeweled princes each a spoke
upon the wheel of time, uncloaked they right
the seals of sigils of letters bespoke
once revoked by a stroke, covenant broke
by misjudgment, ignorant, full of fright
in midnight mirage of light, I invoke
thee the once ruined union bright of yoke
the communion of life and light with night
the seals of sigils of letters bespoke
in midnight mirage of light, I invoke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:30:06 2022 No.19828493 File: 6 KB, 250x249, 9618B7A7-EF47-47F7-93A6-A4D8D645F776.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got the counter-terror job and I’m really worried I’m gonna fuck it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:30:15 2022 No.19828494 >>19818045 Writing, learning fine writing practices and watching dumb people play weird games on the internet. Oh, and crochet. I can crochet up blankets pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:30:49 2022 No.19828495 >>19828493 You better fucking not anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:36:36 2022 No.19828524 >>19828490 Frater could you tell me your thoughts about eschatology? Are we getting close to the end times? Do you think Jesus will return?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:37:02 2022 No.19828525 File: 53 KB, 800x515, commie leaders.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ME AND THE BOYS

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:49:28 2022 No.19828589 >>19828495 I’m motivated. I really don’t want to anyone to get hurt.

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 18:49:54 2022 No.19828592

>>19828524
My eschatology is both absolutely fundamentalist in terms of simplicity but the complexity comes in on account that I believe effectively all history and politics governments and events lead towards the apocalypse, in which account I am fully in agreement with Hegel. Every day is closer to the end times and of course Jesus shall return, and we have been close since he left this world. No man knows when he shall return and any who claims to know the day or the hour is foolish at best and a liar at worst. For Christ says “
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” “ - Matthew 24:36

And further we read in 1 Thessalonians 5:2
“ for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.”

In this regard in life it is best to act as if at any moment the Lord shall come and consider us, and I believe fully in a literal heaven a literal hell, a literal rapture, a literal apocalypse and a literal judgment and a literal resurrection, so also will we bodily return and dwell on this world in Zion. The deeper layer is the beauty and glory of this for we read in 1 Corinthians 13:12
“12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” And 2 Corinthians 12:2-4
“ I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows.
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows.
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.“

Thus I on account of these, believe it so that all of the glory and beauty of this world, of earth, of fantasy, of our fictions and artifices, are but a dim reflection of the beauty and light of heaven and of the world that shall be after this one has been dissolved as if by fire. Thus all the Bible says on account of heaven and earth is so, and yet that is simply the most outer layer of glory, of harmony with God, of beauty, of wisdom, of intellect, of perfection in all ways, simply that which we may know of and not that which we shall know of in the days of eternity.

Do not fear the end of days do not worry that people speak of war or that there is disease, be glad that each day whether that be a day closer to being taken up or a day closer to closing your eyes and being absent of the body, thus present with your lord. Thus we ought desire to obey him, know him fully, be glad for that day to come, to ask him to hasten it, we are to be like wayfarers in this world, remembering we are not of it, it not being our home, we ought not feel any anxiety about our return to our true home which is the endless glory of God.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:51:32 2022 No.19828602 >>19818045 Motorcycles. It's pretty fun bros. I think I am becoming a boomer.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 18:52:14 2022 No.19828603
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>>19818034
I've day dreamt about fucking the girl I'm infatuated with and then jumping of a balcony.
I'm attracted to her but I don't think she's all that attractive.
I'm going to seperate her from the infatuation fantasty, ask her out and what ever the answer may be, make the fantasy my obsession and use this to slingshot myself into the lap of other women.
I just need to be fast and not waste time because I WILL crash after this orbit slingshot, just have to pray to crash on something soft.
This is what I will do, and complete victory is what I will witness.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:09:55 2022 No.19828685

>>19828592
Thanks for explaining. What do you think about the similarity other religions share with your view, e.g., Twelver Shi'ites who eagerly await the return of Jesus along with the Mahdi, both of whom they consider to be close allies? On a personal note, I am not afraid of his return, and in fact pray to God to hasten it. But what I am afraid of is that things are prophesied to get worse and worse before the end times. I am not sure it would be a wise decision to start a family and bring children into this world in these times. This is probably not a concern for you since you have an insulated religious community, but I am not sure if I will be able to teach those children how to navigate these decadent times.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:11:13 2022 No.19828692

I was thrust into this, this tangle of thorns and dim lights.
A denizen of some radical culture springing forth with novel ideas. Terrible & Bizarre, but original and unlike the world had ever seen.
As for me, I had my own ideas as well,
and thought becomes wisdom just as seed becomes plant, striving toward the sky.
With my wisdom coming to fruition, a man's spiritual journey is over with as soon as it begins.
The task is done, my destiny is made perfect. Everything else now is but time passing.
The Present inching toward the Future, when All will be Fulfilled. It can not be escaped, only delayed. If it is hastened or not, is not as important as how most aptly it came to be.
The Inevitable cracking open of the Earth as the Moon turns to red.
And I will hang there, like a star, glow in the dark, for all those starving eyes to see.
Like the ones we wished upon.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:16:57 2022 No.19828725

>>19818034
The soft boiled egg is the probably the single best food in existence. I bet you could literally survive off just sb eggs and be perfectly healthy. It even has good macros for putting on muscle. This is not surprising maybe when you consider that an egg literally turns into an entire chicken. What I'm saying is that eggs are a glorious gift from God. I can heal a cold merely by having several sb eggs

Other very based foods include milk and steak

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:24:47 2022 No.19828759 I have something to get off my chest: he... He don't louve me..... he..... He has HIS FUCKING WHORES......

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:25:47 2022 No.19828771 >>19828603 No, I actually think you're very pretty

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:31:58 2022 No.19828806
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>>19828771
Yes I guessed so, you kissed me despite having a partner.
I don't mind anymore, I will pursue and burn our bridge if it doesn't work out. In the meantime I will manwhore around and try to find a suitable end to me.
Perhaps fucking and immediate suicide are doable?

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 19:36:15 2022 No.19828820

>>19828685
>Thanks for explaining. What do you think about the similarity other religions share with your view, e.g., Twelver Shi'ites who eagerly await the return of Jesus along with the Mahdi, both of whom they consider to be close allies?

On this I agree with st athanasius and st Justin martyr, that our human reason is the image of God, in particular Christ as logos, and that by looking inward and gazing at our own image of God, we may see sparks and flashes of the truth and nature of Godhead, thus the primitive church did not deny Egyptian and Greek cults had such dying and rising deities as Osiris and Dionysus, but rather saw these as the proof of the eternity of these doctrines and the echos of God’s truth in the soul, and by this same justification did the church study Plato, Aristotle and so forth and develop our theologies, because these great wise men, in contemplation, the reason seeing itself though a glass darkly, sees the seeds and remnants of God’s truth. Thus they are so profitable to take what is good from them and of God, and to deny all else from them which derives from human doctrines and does not obey the law and measure of the Bible.

>On a personal note, I am not afraid of his return, and in fact pray to God to hasten it. But what I am afraid of is that things are prophesied to get worse and worse before the end times. I am not sure it would be a wise decision to start a family and bring children into this world in these times. This is probably not a concern for you since you have an insulated religious community, but I am not sure if I will be able to teach those children how to navigate these decadent times.

On this I would say, you’re wrong to think it is your option, for marriage and lack of marriage, reproduction and lack of reproduction, both of these come from the hand of God, you need ask him what is his desire in prayer and obey concerning his will. If you have trouble discerning his will, here is a sure fire method which will allow you to gain some understanding of it.

While you pray and after you’ve thanked god and praised God, ask God a question concerning what you ought do, and since God is the God of peace, since his spirit is peace, the option which makes you feel peace in his presence, that is the option he desires, whereas the option that makes you stir, that is not of his hand.
Psalm 22:3

But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

Which is to say, The Lord inhabits/is enthroned upon our praise, and what is he akin to when we praise him?

Judges 6:24
So Gideon built an altar to the Lord there and called it The Lord Is Peace. To this day it stands in Ophrah of the Abiezrites.

Thus the lord is Peace, and to dwell in this peace as you pray is to obey the will of God. It is better you ask him concerning all things than rely on your human reason. For his ways are perfect and ours imperfect.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:37:14 2022 No.19828824

>>19828806
Come on, don't be dramatic. I'm not involved in any romantic (or even sexual) relationship with any woman (or man). You love me and I love you. You've been tasting me since 2019. You think someone else that doesn't like you would still be here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:39:25 2022 No.19828834 >>19828824 I'm not talking to you, merely the fantasy I project. I have not known you for a mere moment, and the only way I will know you for longer than a year is it things work out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:39:25 2022 No.19828835 >>19828493 Dumb glownigger

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:40:36 2022 No.19828841 >>19828820 Frater makes a based post as always. How are your poetry efforts going lately

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:41:08 2022 No.19828846 >>19828834 Yet you still hang on to that ghost. Why?

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 19:44:25 2022 No.19828856

>>19828841
Pretty fun, I learned more concerning rap and wrote some pieces with em. Read this for my last three poems >>19828490

Here’s some based in rap.

The rebuke of Azure

enough of azure azaleas damask,
avast! and avast! the profound behold,
enough of the barely holy and masked,
for now I pass the ceremony old.
come search me scourge me test me only gold
most pure I’m sure surges best in me, wholly bold,
i purge each urge, my testimony unfolds,
i am the divergent and I am the goal,
I am the demiurge and I am the soul,
I am the many and I am the sole,
from me comes plenty try to empty my bowl,
the healthy and wealthy and hefty i control,
between epiphany and Sheol I stroll
and eddy for any and every goes
steady then heady as if one great rose,
i flow with revelry in revery repose,
whether destiny or spiral I go
past spire and idol for the fire I know
is not the devil but knowledge aglow
not with dreadful flame but cooler than snow,
it grows but stays level between fast and slow,
it is the rhythm and bezel and plateau and the odd,
the even, the system, the vessel and trods
with rod to trample the pilgrim facade
and tremble the temple with wisdom, leaving God.

Wizard song

a wisp of wizard whispers configure my lips,
i continue this, not as a ritualist,
for this lore will correct your error
as flora grows fairer with water I declare
this terror and horror will cleanse your aura
and senses of wiles beguiling your eye in the storm.
arise titan allured and entranced reform
your form from void the destroyed substance torn
into malformed ajar and bizarre avatars,
the vile i revile so I rile the cinnabar
the sulphur the salt, the whole stir, I blur
the other and lover to discover another
beyond number and utterly any summary.

Mauve Sonnet

Mauve zone monsters gnaw bone yantras,
Their maws moan dharma laws unknown
To Sun or stone or dogma, causation
Their formation stalks as swarms, talks as storms,
Maiden wears faux glass horns to thwart the worms,
They return as ravens, hawks, fields of thorns,
She mourns, they squawk, she’s craven and yields,
They wield each station from gestation to cessation,
They nest in seas and orchards, floors charred
more blacker than acher or ochre,
Things turn sober, the king learns solar swings
Bipolar from burning to colder, pies closer,
He turns older, wiser, wills to sire the maiden,
He draws the mauve fire and kills Satan.
And just for fun, apiece I wrote more or less automatically.

cadence from clangor I stir,
anger my vagrance I churn
from aft to stern with stirring,
from me I burn with yearning,
I burn things my vagrance in plague trance,
I take lance and scepter,
from ancestor to specter,
I make dance the letters,
each sprung speck spake ranged with nectar,
my tongue’s beck makes a clang splendor,
I sung my throat sang tender,
trod with truth I trot the troth elder,
writhing wrath with rod I reaped with rapt
the clap the cling of this clangor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:48:55 2022 No.19828874 >>19826585 Have a (you) for your relatable post and nice gif I was talking about similar topics with some of my friend so I will screenshot it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:49:30 2022 No.19828876 Well, wish you good luck in your future endeavours

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:50:57 2022 No.19828883 Can't go to the shop because I can't find my mask

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:58:02 2022 No.19828932

>>19828856
Interesting poems, I like the very bottom one the best, satisfying to read
Do you mean rap as in hiphop? I listened to a bunch of hiphop as a teenager which I think influenced the way I wrote poems at first, especially the use of heavy assonance.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:58:36 2022 No.19828934
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>>19828846
To rile myself up. Succes depends on your own affirmation and to reach this you need some riling.
Me raging against the world and myself is frustration. Now I’m focusing this frustration and attack the source, but the energy it can give is something I want to harness instead of it sizzling out.
I will force things and I don’t care for the consequences.

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:02:12 2022 No.19828956

>>19828932
Ye, I’m primarily interested in their usage of holorime and a technique I’ve found they use in which they replace unstressed syllables with stressed to produce a kind of sprung rhythm, I’ll post what I’ve wrote before on it.

the origin of rap is basically an urban folk music which on account of the songs and poetry of the time not relating to them not being melodically pleasing, they simply recreated the basics of poetry. The oldest forms of rap are effectively narratives in rhymed couplets usually in iambic or trochaic pentameter, eventually their flow styles refine and their characteristic staccato sound develops, and with this more intense study of rhyme, and this is the major divide in rap as an art, I’ve come to name this divide “white” and “black” due to whites preferring one style and black the other, what is unified with both styles is the staccato style, rhyme and trying to master the eccentricities of breath formations in common speech, but the white form of rap cares more for pure density of rhyme harmonized with narrative, whereas the black style is totally about “riding “ the beat, which is to say, making the words you say act as a vocal-instrument, this plus “punchlines” which is to say, pithy one/two lines which are memorable are a major point of focus. Now obviously this is a spectrum, someone like MF DOOM has the highest density of rhymes but very little narrative and not the best flow.

Example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_mSiKhXqaM

Now compare this to the mouth-instrument primary rappers like Freddie Gibb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NabmJWtYK5c

Here is a great example of the contrast, I consider biggie the best in terms of flow but Eminem has the most consistent rhymed narratives, watch this song and you can compare them both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buj_XRGae8M

This is a good way to think of the sound differences between poetry and rap.

Allegro=normal poetry
Medium=Hopkins
Staccato=rap

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:12:26 2022 No.19829002

>>19828820
>and to deny all else from them which derives from human doctrines and does not obey the law and measure of the Bible.
I fully agree with everything you said in this paragraph up until this point. I know that previously you have said the Bible is your fundamental axiom, and that it is the only thing you hold fast to in all your philosophical and religious studies. What would you then say to someone who has the same attitude but with regards to the Quran? The incongruity of the Bible and the Quran in certain teachings troubles me, but I would rather doubt my own existence than doubt a single verse of the Quran.
>While you pray and after you’ve thanked god and praised God, ask God a question concerning what you ought do, and since God is the God of peace, since his spirit is peace, the option which makes you feel peace in his presence, that is the option he desires, whereas the option that makes you stir, that is not of his hand.
Very interesting that you say this, because this is a well-known practice in Islam, which is called istikhara. For some reason I've always shied away from doing this, but I guess I finally have to do it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:25:59 2022 No.19829048

>>19828956
That Freddie Gibbs guy is really good, its almost hypnotic. I haven't reallt listened to hiphop in like a decade or more but i will post a couple tracks I liked

https://youtu.be/Q0PccPy_pTM
https://youtu.be/HAjQf0zag_4

How would you classify these in your scheme?

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:27:38 2022 No.19829053

>>19829002

>I fully agree with everything you said in this paragraph up until this point. I know that previously you have said the Bible is your fundamental axiom, and that it is the only thing you hold fast to in all your philosophical and religious studies. What would you then say to someone who has the same attitude but with regards to the Quran?

That I completely understand their position and believe they ought according to their moral force the supremacy of their doctrine, and I believe truly that the axiomatic questions are only answered by faith and direct religious experiences, for without the control and refinement of God, I believe man a creature of passions and desires who will bind and manipulate his reason to satisfy himself and do as he wills, thus faith and relationship with God is the only determinant factor.

>The incongruity of the Bible and the Quran in certain teachings troubles me, but I would rather doubt my own existence than doubt a single verse of the Quran.

So am I with the Bible, I could throw Arguments about disagreements with the Quran and this text or that history or this aspect of life, but if you are someone of genuine faith anything I say will be meaningless and likewise anything I say will come from a place of faith also.

> istikhara

I know! I study Sufism and have led study groups of the Quran and other lit, again obviously I believe the Bible has supremacy, but on account of the above statements on knowledge I am of the belief study and analysis is good for certain people with the capacity. (Which is not saying I am better at this or that, I think it’s simply true that some people are such that they’ll bend or be corrupted by any religious or ideological text they come across, I know personally very intelligent people with this problem.)

But yeah fundamentally prayer to God and relationship with God is the only foundation I trust and believe you should trust, if I gave you the most refined intellectual argument on earth and it disagreed with your relationship with God, surely my words are no better than filth.

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:32:34 2022 No.19829072

>>19829048
> That Freddie Gibbs guy is really good, its almost hypnotic. I haven't reallt listened to hiphop in like a decade or more but i will post a couple tracks I liked

He really is when you notice what he’s doing, for a while I lamented the death of poetry in the modern form, but I honestly believe it lives on in rap as a purely technical form, as the content is so stagnant they’re free to worry only about sounds, breath and virtuoso feats.

Jay-Z is on the synthesis side, closer to the “black “ side but definite influence from the likes of Eminem, that’s why he’s more hypnotic to the ear but can at random throw out much more technical pieces like this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbpp1cbPvc

The AZ track is however in the earlier narrative rhythmical style prior to the bifurcation, it’s not different in my mind from something like this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HjNTu8jdukA

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:35:01 2022 No.19829080

>>19829048
While we’re here, someone who upfront doesn’t look that impressive but really is, is lil Wayne, watch these and you’ll see how technically perfect his lines are.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOxO9yk5NE0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DjEpfvWXVvM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2H7oW-CiQ

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:37:55 2022 No.19829092 >>19829072 I think I get what you mean. Soemthing like this would be on the black side then https://youtu.be/P19dow9ALYM

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:38:56 2022 No.19829097 >>19829080 >>19829092 Lmao lil Wayne hivemind

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:40:23 2022 No.19829106 my brain has been balkanized

Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:45:47 2022 No.19829127

>>19829097
Yeah he’s on the harder black side, mind you synthesis rappers exist they’re just not as common, notice for example how lil Wayne will sound so very different song to song, sometimes using that Memphis triple flow (alternation of anapests/dactyls ) or will just make a flow for the song, but if you listen to the lyrics and try to find a narrative you’re not gonna find much. Again the par excellent white rapper is Eminem, he sounds basically the same in every song, his harmonization with the music itself isn’t high, he rhyme every syllable in a coherent long form narrative but in order to do this he bends his accent and can’t play around with the fun of diversity of sounds and breath forms. Compare these two, obviously narrative and pure rhyme wise Eminem is vastly superior, but I think in terms of sound, flow, the enjoyment of the ear, fergs rapping is here superior.

This https://youtu.be/mcg7jmB86cA?t=77
Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjRvxKxLckc

This very much is a good example of white vs black.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:51:32 2022 No.19829146 >>19829127 Eminem has a bit of a range himself, sometimes he sounds more natural such as https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s He gets very autistic and mechanic sounding at times though

>>	v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt Fri Jan 28 20:52:14 2022 No.19829150 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dffuCNKtR3g

>>	Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 Fri Jan 28 20:52:32 2022 No.19829151 >>19829146 Oh totally he’s good, it’s just he’s very clearly focused on rhyme and narrative, this is my favorite flow of his. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6FLhBbGhnwo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:52:33 2022 No.19829152 >>19829146 Wrong song, meant to post this https://youtu.be/s0rLH_v-lwg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 20:54:35 2022 No.19829163 test

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:01:27 2022 No.19829192 >>19829151 I had never really thought about this difference in style before, kind of interesting This was one of my favorite songs for while, heavily black style according to your distinction https://youtu.be/ODcZhdA7czU

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:11:24 2022 No.19829235

>>19829053
Indeed, and very well said. I have seen some people bombard me with what they considered conclusive arguments against the Quran, but which I only found to be mere trifles. Even so, I believe there is great value in the arguments exchanged between opposing sides, if only because they could lead to a better understanding of our own views. At the moment I'm busy with some obligations but I hope to take you up on that some time later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:13:10 2022 No.19829242 >>19829163 You passed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:14:34 2022 No.19829246 >>19829163 You failed

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:42:50 2022 No.19829382 >>19828835 I just don’t want people to die don’t call me dumb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:48:04 2022 No.19829408 >>19829382 You probably shouldnt be talking about your glowie job on 4chan lol, isnt that like basic opsec

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 21:50:50 2022 No.19829419 >>19829408 It doesn’t even matter

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 22:37:44 2022 No.19829592 >>19818034 OH SHIT I'M FEELING IT! WORLD IS WHACK! NUKER NUKER DUKEM SUKEM! MAN FROM MONKE SO SAID GOD! GONNA RIDE THIS SHIT TO KINGDOM COME!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 22:39:48 2022 No.19829605 >>19829382 Well then stop killing people you glowie fag lord

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:00:20 2022 No.19829685 Rip... I farted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:05:07 2022 No.19829708 File: 109 KB, 751x363, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19818045 Opie and Anthony clips. I can go through 7 hours a day while doing uni work,

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:08:30 2022 No.19829723 can the initiated tell me why this girl wore a collar while we were briefly alone and then later took it off discreetly while when we were accompanied by someone else. she has a bf btw

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:19:51 2022 No.19829791 >>19829723 Like a dog collar? I think she's a furry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:24:04 2022 No.19829814 >>19829791 oh god anon you might be right. I walked into a conversation once where her and her friends were talking about furry shit. I was very drunk so I barely remember what was said.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:30:33 2022 No.19829844 File: 556 KB, 752x567, cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnV5TaXun-M&ab_channel=ClarkRubber trigger warning

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:31:16 2022 No.19829849 it's snowing :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:42:15 2022 No.19829915 I haven't jerked off in 3 days. I don't watch porn but I want to cut down on how much I wank.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 23:44:46 2022 No.19829932 File: 94 KB, 757x674, 1610471116267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is goldsmithing a good craft to take up for a career nowadays?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:05:06 2022 No.19830034 >>19829723 She was testing to see if you werent a homosexual. You failed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:13:17 2022 No.19830079 I need help. I’m going through my worst mental breakdown yet. It’s been a little over two months now with no signs of easing up. I was thinking about checking myself in a psych ward. Idk what to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:20:28 2022 No.19830123 >>19830079 what was the catalyst?

>>	v_v !!+e0M0fBMYzt Sat Jan 29 00:23:06 2022 No.19830145 File: 50 KB, 1080x738, princess.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKC_9OYc510

Anοnymous Sat Jan 29 00:25:53 2022 No.19830159
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There hasn't been a lot going on lately.
Earlier this week I got sick and threw up in my car as I was driving, so I guess that's some experience.
I failed a bit at the secondary duties in my new job and was pretty frustrated as its affecting my rapport with the rest of the team.
I mentioned before that I sometimes felt like life in an asylum would be almost preferable to my current life but after more investigation into the matter, perhaps monastery life is closer to what I feel drawn to. Of course, this is still unfeasible for me given my familial attachment. Thus, I've began thinking of ways I could be more monk-like in my life, such as meditation. I've already got the abstinence part down and I don't partake in self-inflicted pleasures of the flesh as often.
Another thing that brought this on a bit was the birth of my nephew; I always believed that I wanted children and I love the little guy but I don't think I could stomach cleaning piss and shit and dealing with hormones for 18+ years. I realize that I want to be a mentor, not a parent. I want to pass on my worldview and my interests.
On another front, I have been writing a little bit. That riddle project has at least turned into a barebones plot with two better-defined main characters.
I also find myself craving friendship with the opposite sex; I don't want to go at it directly in the romantic way but I do find myself censoring the words I use a bit compared to what I would say someone of the same sex.
Something else that has come my attention is that Christianity isn't descended from Judaism in the modern sense; both have root in the ancient Israelite religion that is also called Judaism but modern Judaism observes the Talmud, a work to my knowledge iterates on the the things I found controversial in the Torah such as the treatment of gentiles. I cannot bring myself to believe in something that preaches inequality based on something that a person cannot change about themselves such as their family lineage.

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:26:52 2022 No.19830166

>>19830123
Something really simple broke me down. I realized I didn’t understand a subject fully that was apart of my identity all my life. And with the knowledge i have now, im completely disillusioned and lost my identity in the process. I’m completely lost and hate everything and can’t stop hating everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:30:21 2022 No.19830188 >>19830166 What is the subject

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:33:13 2022 No.19830201 >>19830166 What a fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:33:52 2022 No.19830206 >>19830188 Doesn’t really matter desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:34:54 2022 No.19830214 >>19830201 Identity crisis is pretty scary stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:40:50 2022 No.19830242 >>19830166 as long as you keep it that vague and abstracted to yourself its going to remain a tar pit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:43:53 2022 No.19830256 >>19830214 Seems pretty mild to me desu. Nothing to have a mental breakdown over. Just research this interest more until you're actually competent. It really isnt difficult

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 00:50:01 2022 No.19830279 >>19830256 No I’m much more competent on the subject. It’s just i built my identity on a misunderstanding of the subject. The new understanding is contradictory to my identity. Then panic and mental breakdown ensues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:00:52 2022 No.19830318 >>19830279 Thats really stupid. You're dumb for building your identity on something like that and dumb for being unable to adapt your character to new understanding. You're also dumb for having a mental breakdown over nothing

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:00:56 2022 No.19830320
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I miss being in the library of congress. the library, the thomas jefferson and lincoln memorials, strike me so much that I can only imagine what it's like to stand in something like the sistine chapel or St. Peter's basilica.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:02:57 2022 No.19830338 >>19830166 you don't need an identity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:03:57 2022 No.19830348 >>19830318 Everyone builds their identity on something. What do you build your identity on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:05:01 2022 No.19830355 >>19830338 I really do. I don’t know how to live without one. How would i act? What decisions will i make?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:06:33 2022 No.19830362 >>19830034 explain

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:07:29 2022 No.19830365

>>19830355
literally just do whatever you are driven to do without mind to identifying yourself with your actions. The only real way to be yourself anyway is to not try and impose some identity on yourself. When you have no identity is when you will truly be free to act naturally and exist as who you really are because there will be no idea you are trying to force yourself to conform to, you will be able to do what you REALLY want to do and not what you've convinced yourself you want to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:10:10 2022 No.19830374 >>19830365 and if you really want to keep studying the subject then you will do it, and by not trying you will gain the full understanding. unknowing is the first step to knowing

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:19:02 2022 No.19830400

>>19830365
>>19830374
>you will be able to do what you REALLY want to do
This is great advice and I really do appreciate it. But I’m not sure what i want to do? What I really want is an identity. To know who i am. I want to feel comfortable in my old identity at the moment but it’s false. I have to move on somehow but idk i just feel lost. Thanks for the help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:23:05 2022 No.19830408 I like both being called a "good girl" in a mommy voice and being called "mommy".

>>	Anοnymous Sat Jan 29 01:24:40 2022 No.19830411 >>19830408 you're into forcefem'ing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:24:47 2022 No.19830413 It is time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:28:47 2022 No.19830418 >>19830411 No I just like how it sounds.

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:41:01 2022 No.19830464

I don’t know exactly why, but a couple of minutes ago I googled a girl who studied with me almost a decade ago. It was never a crush - her beauty and energy just drew my eyes from time to time. My younger self was content with letting life pass him by.
Why didn’t I get to know her? It wouldn't have been hard, we had many friends in common.
Why be content with the adrift state of my youth? Languishing until the only things left were the mounting uncertainties of adulthood.
She’s still pretty, and seems to have maintained that captivating energy of hers.

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:41:52 2022 No.19830470

Against falling and whirling.
Man oh man, I see myself turning
Face heated into mirror
Real life seaps into my veins and becomes a blade.
Sepsis, saddening forebearer that holds units charged with anger.
A tear drop falls down my cheek, oh, a tear drop is where I sleep.

If life doesn't kill me, I shall kill myself.
If life doesn't kill me; no one will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:42:10 2022 No.19830474 >>19830464 go on about her energy anon. what made her stand out? let your prose speak

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:43:43 2022 No.19830478

>>19830464
One hour from now - after a sleepless night - my cat will start making so as to wake me up. Some hours later me and my girlfriend will meet, so we can spend the weekend together. There’s not a single part of me that’s excited about this - a familiar state of being for about a year now. Still, I keep it going through a mix of pity, my inability to break up and the realisation we’ve been each other’s only friend for a couple of years now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:51:07 2022 No.19830508 New thread: >>19830506

Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:53:27 2022 No.19830520

>>19830474
Her smile.
Her whole face lit up when she smiled. Even her voice seemed to smile with the way she would talk about this or that. And they weren’t rare or secretive smiles. She gave them freely to the world, as if she knew her soul would never run out of them.
Getting to know bits and pieces about her home life - the ailing brother who she cared for and the strict parents who pressured her to become a doctor - only made those smiles more wondrous to me.
There was beauty on her joy, and witnessing it was more than enough.
It hurts to type these words.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 01:56:01 2022 No.19830532 >>19830508 You forgot to link it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 02:01:13 2022 No.19830561 >>19830532 I didn't "forget". I left it intentionally because from what I remember old threads from years ago used to be empty like the one I posted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 02:17:06 2022 No.19830601 >>19830561 Dude. Didn’t even tag it with a WWOYM. Link them so we can see them all in warosu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 02:24:19 2022 No.19830615 >>19830601 Yeah I can see how links are useful but see this thread, which is the first time I actually posted in a wwoym: >>/lit/thread/S14616969

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 08:40:08 2022 No.19831421 >>19818034 Why do oldfags refer to /lit/ users as "nerds"? Was that an old meme?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 11:01:14 2022 No.19831740 >>19830464 Theres no way obsessing over someone who wasnt even an acquaintance from a decade ago is healthy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 11:12:07 2022 No.19831781 >>19831421 Not that I ever heard. Who called you a nerd, son? Point ‘im out! I’ll deal with ‘em!

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