/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19810727]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9K6kmpx44
Just how can anyone take this man seriously...

>the first book was the bible, i mean literally, at one point there was only one book..

[Anonymous No.19810753]

>>19810727
This episode was sad. You can tell he has lost it. The rambling. The bowtie. The Bill Cosby stubble. Reduced to posting cute animals on twitter.

[Anonymous No.19810786]

>>19810753
>'the meaning of words is coded in the relationship of the words to one another'
>BUT WHAT ABOUT MOVING MY ARM
He has become a senile old man. This is sad to watch.. Its not even funny.

[Anonymous No.19810787]

>>19810727
I can't believe people pay attention to this retard in 2022, especially considering he's a self-help guru who's addicted to drugs and living in squalor.

[Anonymous No.19810796]

>>19810727
>his first book was the Bible


Based will be buying a copy

[Anonymous No.19810803]

>>19810727
LOL they finally did it. They broke this guy. Compare this video to the early videos of him.

[Anonymous No.19810804]

Pretentious midwit appealing to midderwits.

[Anonymous No.19810807]

>>19810727
>this man destroys subversive athiestjews in public debates using his faith and wisdom

Very Based

[Anonymous No.19810811]

>>19810753

>reviewing the fucking Joker on Joe Rogan

kek

[Anonymous No.19810815]

>>19810727
whoooah that's fucked up

[Anonymous No.19810822]

>>19810727
I dont like seeing people decline like this, poor bastard

[Anonymous No.19810825]

>>19810807
Peterson himself is an atheist. He doesnt believe in divinity of The Bible. He only sees worth in it as 'structure' for his romanticized neoliberal state.

[Anonymous No.19810832]

>>19810727
He’s right though, there were scrolls and stuff of course, but the first pieces of paper bound together at the spine were little copies of the gospel

[Anonymous No.19810839]

>>19810811
>"Joe-a-quin Phoenix has masculine features, but graceful movement. Charmisa. Such a good actor. Very powerful movie, man..."
>the IHOP waiter approaches the table to refill the JRE coffee mug Peterson, sitting alone facing the wall at a corner booth, insisted he drink from when he reserved his table on the phone

[Anonymous No.19810843]

>>19810825
That's fucking terrifying

[Anonymous No.19810847]

>>19810825
He actually believes in and has a deep relationship with Christ.

https://youtu.be/fcudKSvH058

https://youtu.be/VbVwV8_TEkM

[Anonymous No.19810848]

>>19810727
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.19810849]

>>19810727
way more true than just true - J. Peterman

[Anonymous No.19810874]

>>19810727
Can't bring myself to watch it.

The post-coma stuff is depressing, alongside the religious pandering. He's pro-Islam now as well just to own the "globalists."

[Anonymous No.19810877]

>>19810847
>you can debate whether he actually lived and whether theres credible objective evidence for that
>i ***probably*** believe that
>im amazed at my own belied and I dont understand it
Hes not sincere. A sincere Christian wouldnt even entertain such ideas.

[Anonymous No.19810885]

>>19810727
a lot of what he's saying is kind of true, or the main thrust of his point is true, but he's saying it in such an overeager way that it makes it very easy for someone to pick it apart and misinterpret it. that said, other some parts of what he said just sound like he's giving into the creative production of mental structures too much, without thinking it through. so some of what he said is just wrong, like somehow the bible being the basis of all further communication rather than just an all-encompassing influence in a more general way.

[Anonymous No.19810897]

for a guy who doesn't know anything, seems like people sure love to talk about every little thing he has to say

[Anonymous No.19810902]

You left out the part where he quietly qualifies: "I mean, as far as our western cultur--"

[Anonymous No.19810910]

>>19810902
Because western culture started with the New Testament...

[Anonymous No.19810928]

>>19810727
He goes way schizo here but his general point is right. After the the fall of western roman empire, "western" culture was completely separated from Ancient culture. This is the so called "dark ages". The Greeks were completely forgotten in west for a few centuries until westerners rediscovered them through Muslims (who were fastidiously studying and expanding on the Greeks). This is a very narrow and western-centered view Peterson espouses, but during that time the Bible was the west's sole and most fundamental book.

[Anonymous No.19810941]

>>19810928
>until westerners rediscovered them through Muslims
This is a common misconception, it was the Greeks themselves fleeing Byzantium after the sack of Constantinople that brought these ancient texts with them to modern day Italy, France and Germany.

[Anonymous No.19810953]

Poorly articulated but he's fundamentally right

[Anonymous No.19810955]

>>19810941
Or vice versa: early Italian humanists who had sojourned there and brought back texts with them

[Anonymous No.19810964]

>>19810955
Yes that obviously played a part as well.

[Anonymous No.19810969]

>>19810804
>midderwits
cool term
t. borderline midwit

[Anonymous No.19810973]

>>19810727
>french cuffs

[Anonymous No.19810978]

>>19810941
I have heard this a lot recently but it isn't entirely true. Perhaps the Byzantine Greeks were partly responsible but a great portion of it was the translation of Arabic works and translations into Latin in the second half of twelfth century. There were Arabic-Latin translators fully dedicated to translate both original Islamic works as well as the Arabic translations of Greek texts.

[Anonymous No.19810980]

>>19810825
Doesn't seem that simple based on his video with Pageau.

[Anonymous No.19810981]

>>19810786
Beyond parody at this point

[Anonymous No.19810989]

>>19810941
It's not. Many of the ancient Greek texts were actually translated into Latin from Arabic, especially through Palermo after it was acquired by Normans. That's not to downplay the Greeks, but there was a large amount of literature which came from the Arabs too (hundreds of years before Byzantium ever collapsed).

[Anonymous No.19810990]

>>19810815
kekk

[Anonymous No.19810991]

>>19810727
It's a real shame. He used to be sane. But he was the nail that stuck out. They wouldn't let him be for long.

[Anonymous No.19810999]

>>19810928
>The Greeks were completely forgotten in west for a few centuries
Not true, they surely weren't at their previous height of popularity but you still had Christian thinkers interpreting Plato and Neoplatonism and so on.

[Anonymous No.19811006]

>>19810786
>body motions/emotions have meaning despite them not existing in a post-/structuralist signifier-signified relationship
Seems pretty fucking simple to understand

[Anonymous No.19811010]

>>19810999
Greek as a language was, however. Graece sunt, non leguntur.

[Anonymous No.19811019]

>>19810999
There's some statues of Plato at the Cathedral of Sienna

[Anonymous No.19811022]

>>19810753
I havent watched it yet. What was he saying that seemed crazy?

[Anonymous No.19811029]

>>19811022
People are just exaggerating as usual.

[Anonymous No.19811041]

BBBBBUUUUUUURRRRRRPPPPPPPP

[Anonymous No.19811058]

>>19811006
There is no meaning in moving an arm unless you look at the movement in relationship to the world around it. Peterson is now a post modernist?

[Anonymous No.19811080]

>>19811041
>robertbrandom.jpg
kek

[Anonymous No.19811085]

Dude went down the Jung route and didn't make it back.

[Anonymous No.19811092]

>>19811058
>There is no meaning in moving an arm unless you look at the movement in relationship to the world around it
So you've never taken a linear algebra class?

[Anonymous No.19811109]

>>19811058
>the world around it
Um, sweaty, you just did a heckin representationalism. Didn't you know? There's nothing outside the text

[Anonymous No.19811111]

>>19811092
There is no meaning to the movement of an arm in itself unless you look at WHY the arm was moved.
Fuck you people are stupid.

[Anonymous No.19811117]

>>19811109
Look at my get then suck my dick bro >>19811111

[Anonymous No.19811127]

>>19811085
Not even Jung himself did.

[Anonymous No.19811128]

>>19810727
Hey everyone, I'm an academic, look at my mannerisms!

What a fucking pseud lmao

[Anonymous No.19811133]

>>19811128
The sign of demonic possession.

[Anonymous No.19811134]

>>19811111
No shit. But that's not the same as saying that meaning can only exist within some sort of post-/structuralist signifier-signified relationship

[Brandom Bot No.19811138]

>>19811111
>meaning is already implied by the motion of the arm by its situation within all my a posteriori knowledge of moving arms. Hegel quotes a German proverb: a thrown stone belongs to the devil.
>raising the question, aaauhm, of causality serves to make this meaning explicit
MAKE IT EXPLICIT, FIND YOUR SPIRIT OF TRUST

[Anonymous No.19811158]

>>19811111
damn anon your so smart

[Anonymous No.19811170]

>>19810727
>now...in many ways the first book was the bible. i mean literally. beacuse...at one point there was only one book, as far as our western culture is concerned, there's one book. and for a while, literally there was only one book, and that was the bible. and before that was scrolls and papyrus
Complete midwit.

[Anonymous No.19811176]

>>19811170
This is actually pretty based ngl

[Anonymous No.19811178]

>>19811170
>The Gutenberg Bible (also known as the 42-line Bible, the Mazarin Bible or the B42) was the earliest major book printed using mass-produced movable metal type in Europe.

[Anonymous No.19811197]

>>19811178
muh Eurocentrism

[Anonymous No.19811199]

>>19811134
Yeah so peterson is a retard thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.19811202]

>>19811197
he is talking about the western canon in that video

[Anonymous No.19811213]

Peterson should have taken some time to study philosophy. You can tell he has some interest in it but he ends up being painfully raw and dilettante.

[Anonymous No.19811214]

Can someone riddle this out for me
>Europe and large parts of the rest of the world enter the "dark ages"
>A time largely generalised as being brutal and regressive
>*Slavery virtually ends*
>*The average persons life majorly improves*
Not very barbaric, is it?

[Anonymous No.19811219]

>>19811213
He wasn't always like that.

[Anonymous No.19811221]

>>19810753
he looks like bill nye, it seems like he's finally accepted who he is

[Anonymous No.19811224]

>>19811199
Your mind has been poisoned by post-structuralist sophistry. May it rest in peace

[Brandom Bot No.19811231]

>>19811213
>You could say, auhmm, that his knowledge of philosophy is inferentially articulated. One negative mark on his deontic scorecard of discursive commitments.

[Anonymous No.19811232]

>>19811214
https://youtu.be/WeVcey0Ng-w

The dark ages myth is perpetuated by enlightenment-loving liberals

[Anonymous No.19811233]

>>19811214
They retconned "dark ages" to mean a period where there's little historical documentation. It used to be shorthand for the period after Rome fell and there wasn't a major empire in the West to hold shit down.

[Anonymous No.19811240]

>>19811214
>people stop believing in religion for the wrong reasons
>culture, literature, philosophy all massively decline
>family unit disintegrates
>usury results in financial slavery
>everyone is waiting for a chance to cut everyone else's throats for material gain
>everyone is sad and lonely--but trust me it's a biological disease called depression! it's just hormonal imbalance! there is nothing wrong with the world!!! look at the GDP rising it's so good!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.19811242]

>>19811006
>what are social constructs for $5, Alex?

[Anonymous No.19811243]

>the Bible is *the* cultural touchstone of the West
This isn't contentious in the slightest

[Anonymous No.19811247]

>>19811224
The body has no power act through its own mass. The body is passive and can only be acted upon. The movement of an arm has no meaning by itself.
Read Plato you stupid nigger.

[Anonymous No.19811250]

>>19810832
You know Don Quixote was the first book, right?

[Anonymous No.19811257]

>>19811213
He's a clinical/research psychologist. His window into philosophy is concentrated based upon that. I haven't seen most of his output, but I've never seen him reference Binswanger/Boss outside of the classroom. He could probably give a great lecture on how phenomenology has influenced psychiatry but no one from the new audience he's built up as a media personality would care.

[Anonymous No.19811258]

>>what is mind-independent reality for $5, Alex?

[Anonymous No.19811262]

>>19811243
But he's going above and beyond that with all his language stuff.

[Anonymous No.19811267]

>>19811250
>first novel = first book

[Anonymous No.19811270]

>>19811257
Yes, but given his interest in Jung and his frequent interest in philosophical topics he would have massively profited if he had seriously studied philosophy

[Anonymous No.19811271]

>>19811247
>The movement of an arm has no meaning by itself.
That's great dude, but Peterson isn't saying that

[Anonymous No.19811276]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGUQSg5MwYU
Jonathan Pageau is openly christian and talks about current events sometimes through that perspective if anyone is interested and if you've lost interest in Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.19811278]

>>19811262
>with all his language stuff.
Are you ESL? He was a bit schizo but really not that hard to understand

[Anonymous No.19811286]

>>19811276
>20mins
tldw?

[Anonymous No.19811289]

>>19811271
>BUT WHAT ABOUT MOVING MY ARM
So explain then, how can meaning be found in the movement of an arm without considering the relationship between the movement of the arm and the world around it?

[Anonymous No.19811295]

>>19811170
Had anyone told this guy about a book called Don Quixote? Or he's too dumb to know there are books out there that aren't written in english?

[Anonymous No.19811299]

>>19810803
He was a good ol ontario boy who unexpectedly placed himself deep into the burger's multi-media mind grinder, with all the celebrity worship, politics, and attention that it comes with. He never stood a chance

[Anonymous No.19811314]

>>19811289
You are such a fucking retard, dude. Peterson is denying the post-/structuralist theory of meaning in which meaning is only found in infinitely deferred relations of signifier to signified

[Anonymous No.19811322]

Peterson is such a fucking retard. I'm fairly certain non-western Indigenous peoples invented the book before europeans. He only says this stuff to keep his capitalist koch brother handlers happy

[Anonymous No.19811323]

>>19811232
That seems like a pretty great meal. What the fuck. Why those poor fags were eating better than me?

[Anonymous No.19811329]

>>19811314
He was talking to an AI engineer about how AI would find meaning in a text. For fucks sake. You brain must be as drug fucked as Petersons.

[Anonymous No.19811342]

>>19811178
>books didn't exist until the printing press
the absolute state of lobsters

[Anonymous No.19811344]

>>19811322
how are chinese or korean books relevant in a discussion about western canon?

[Anonymous No.19811346]

>>19811329
>You brain
Nice spelling, drug addled retard

[Anonymous No.19811350]

>>19811178
So before the printing press there was just papyrus and scrolls? Because thats what Peterson said.

Unless you’re actually dumb enough to think there were no books before the printing press

[Anonymous No.19811357]

>>19811344
The fact that he only wants to talk about the western canon is proof of his capitalist european bias

[Anonymous No.19811365]

>>19811344
So in western culture there was papyrus and scrolls then the bible appeared as the first book? And if you believe that, id you receive an American education?

[Brandom Bot No.19811377]

>Everyone here seems a bit "ryled" up. May I offer you recognized and recognizing subjects some Quine or Frege?

[Anonymous No.19811387]

>>19811357
Good. A western bias is appropriate. The literature of the rest of the world is quaint and can sometimes have cute little quips, but can hardly form a mind. If you want depth, rigour, feeling, philosophy, edification, morals, you have to go to the Western canon.

[Anonymous No.19811390]

>Peterson is a presuppositionalist now
Lmao fucking protestants I swear

[Anonymous No.19811425]

>>19811278
You're extrapolating a better and clearer position out of him than is there. Sure you can take what he says the best way possible gathering a main point, but he's still saying a lot of other stuff which shows a greater confusion of thought than ever before, and is just wrong. Not every idea in the West can be traced directly back to the Bible, or is centred by the Bible, I understand what he's trying to say about its importance but he's speaking to eagerly to realise how wrong he sounds (whether or not he means something else). He's also not giving the superstructure of culture enough value since he's talking about writings 1. as if influence is something easily packaged and 2. as if it's only in the writings and there's no general cultural bedrock. But he knows there is, and if he had thought about that a bit more before talking here he wouldn't have to talk like a schizo about sampling sources to get a cohesive idea of culture.

I'm also not an esl.

[Anonymous No.19811446]

>>19811178
wrong, gutenburg originally funded his printing business by firstly printing archie comics

[Anonymous No.19811464]

>>19811390
It is beyond clear that peterson has never engaged with the Greeks or the early Christian theologians.

[Anonymous No.19811470]

>>19811387
god you're dull

[Anonymous No.19811482]

>>19811346
Not me, but the fact that you reference a type-o exposes you as a retarded pseud whose triggered the fact that they're a retarded pseud has been pointed out (on an anonymous message board). Retard. Pseud. Retarded pseud.

[Anonymous No.19811483]

>waah waah why won't JBP talk about the Manchus and the CCP on an American podcast, why is he so focused on western canon
>people outside monasteries totally had access to books before the printing press was invented I read it on reddit
Good thread guys

[Anonymous No.19811485]

>>19810786
Not really, sort of related but I remember hearing a story where Wittgenstein realized that his entire theory of language got BTFO by some Italian's rude gesture.

[Anonymous No.19811486]

>>19810727
>One book? Look, best I can do is, like, half a book. The Bible you know is NOT the book you are talkin about here, bud. I mean, look, we dont even have the apocryphal apocalypse of Thomas that was so influential that it was proscribed as heretical, just a bunch of lame narratives in poor Greek for peasants like you and me *puts hands on counter, leans over and laughs* Tell you what, half a book and not a biblion higher.

[Anonymous No.19811495]

This guy has always been boring as hell, now he's incomprehensible too. Kind of amazing he got so much mileage out of the pronoun thing.

[Anonymous No.19811499]

Book binding began in India and book binding with paper emerged in the medieval islamic period. The first "book" euros encountered were most likely Byzantines obtaining a copy of the Quran

[Anonymous No.19811510]

>>19811387
t. halfwit

[Anonymous No.19811511]

>>19810832
>the first pieces of paper bound together at the spine were little copies of the gospel
Stop blabbering about something you know nothing about

[Anonymous No.19811518]

>>19810941
Wrong. Where the fuck does this meme come from? Europeans were writing commentaries on Greek texts centuries before romans were conquered by the ottomans

[Anonymous No.19811530]

>>19811485
Is there anything that btfos as hard as the middle finger? A simple gesture, is like saying "dont care didnt ask" 1000 times.

[Anonymous No.19811537]

>>19811446
>Now Jughead was really something man, like wow, what an appetite

[Anonymous No.19811555]

>>19811213
80% sure this isnt how you spell that word which is very funny to me

[Anonymous No.19811610]

>>19811342
>>19811350
Name one book made before the invention of the printing press even half as culturally impactful as the Bible

[Anonymous No.19811627]

>>19811610
the republic, poetics, sententiae menandri, the libellus of catullus, the aeneid et al.

[Anonymous No.19811634]

>>19810877
>Hes not sincere. A sincere Christian wouldnt even entertain such ideas.
"Yes, my Lord - I spent my life in your service gatekeeping the kingdom of heaven so that it if they did not believe what I believed, I would try to turn them away."
Repent.

[Anonymous No.19811639]

>>19811610
THE HOLY QURAN, you imbecile. The most important book in human history.

[Anonymous No.19811640]

>>19811627
peasants in Europe didn't have access to any of these

[Anonymous No.19811651]

>>19811640
Peasants didn't have access to the bible either, midwit. They were illiterate and the bible was almost only in Latin and available to clergy. You forget about that little detail, midwit?

[Anonymous No.19811654]

>>19811640
immaterial, read your question again. peasants were not capable of making a cultural impact and are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.19811655]

>>19811640
peasants in Europe couldn't read anyway...

[Anonymous No.19811667]

>>19811639
why is it backwards?

[Anonymous No.19811668]

>>19810753
>>19810786
>>19810787
>>19810796
>>19810803
>>19810804
This is like old, useless men yelling about the unathletic pro football player. You have no insights, your critiques are shallow at best and uncreative at worst, and you are just a rag to be blown by the Zeitgeist's nose. What he said was correct, articulate, albeit pedantic and a bit overzealous in how revelatory it was.

[Anonymous No.19811678]

>>19811555
It is though. I googled it before writing it kek

[Anonymous No.19811683]

>>19811667
Arabic script is from right to left.

[Anonymous No.19811685]

>>19811668
>This is like old, useless men yelling about the unathletic pro football player. You have no insights, your critiques are shallow at best and uncreative at worst, and you are just a rag to be blown by the Zeitgeist's nose. What he said was correct, articulate, albeit pedantic and a bit overzealous in how revelatory it was.

[Anonymous No.19811687]

>>19811655
>>19811654
>>19811651
Who's paying you to post here and how poorly did you score on the general cognitive ability test to actually land the job?

[Anonymous No.19811689]

>>19811668
Your midwit king Peterson isn't a pro football player of anything lmao, the media hysteria elevated him to popularity because of le pronouns are...LE BAD fiasco

[Anonymous No.19811693]

>>19811683
Ok, but I asked why is the book backwards? the front cover is hidden

[Anonymous No.19811694]

>>19811610
>even half as culturally impactful as the Bible
..that wasn't peterson's claim midwit

[Anonymous No.19811699]

>>19811634
His 'belief' is founded on the idea that the historic authentic of Jesus is up for debate.
This is heresy.

[Anonymous No.19811700]

>>19811627
HAHAHAHAHA - nothing better than Gothic statues of Catullus. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.19811705]

>>19811689
>>19811685
You argue in 4chan memes.

[Anonymous No.19811706]

>>19811668
>What he said was correct, articulate
Lmao.

[Anonymous No.19811707]

>>19811693
When your script from right to left, you start from the right side of the book to the left side. The right side is the front cover.

[Anonymous No.19811709]

>>19811687
it's just muslims and east asians seething see >>19811639 and >>19811357

[Anonymous No.19811710]

>>19811699


47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
>heresy
Repent.

[Anonymous No.19811711]

>>19811705
You have nothing to add to the discussion other than,
>omg youre just a jealous hater

[Anonymous No.19811715]

>>19811639
> A pedo's favorite poem collection.

[Anonymous No.19811716]

>>19811710
>"Jesus may not have been a real person"
>not heresy
Remove yourself from my sight, demon.

[Anonymous No.19811718]

>>19811706
Amazing. Your response to criticze the word articulate is an internet acronym.

[Anonymous No.19811720]

>>19811634
If both of you guys are born again then do not argue on here in front of the heathens. God forbid. I love you both, you both bring up good points.

Ultimately we don’t know if he is saved, but being unsure of The record of Gods son brings to mind 1 John 5:10 where it says whoever does not believe the record of Jesus Christ is calling God a liar. So hopefully Peterson is working toward knowing Christ and his resurrection power. We should not frustrate his efforts

[Anonymous No.19811721]

>>19811716
It's okay - catholics don't read the Bible, I know.

[Anonymous No.19811723]

>>19811709
I don't think it's Muslims though. He clearly means what he says in a western context. As a Muslim I find nothing controversial about what he said and I think the anon who posted the Qur'an is probably memeing. I think it's leftists seething about him as always.

[Anonymous No.19811724]

>>19811718
If you think peterson was articulate in this podcast... Just lmao. The absolute state of America.

[Anonymous No.19811732]

>>19811720
> 1 John 5:10
Really? How about from Christ's mouth?

[Anonymous No.19811734]

>>19811715
Cope harder. Name one other book that has been memorized by millions of people in its entirety, flawlessly. The Holy Quran is miraculous.

[Anonymous No.19811735]

>>19811639
Think again, Heretic

[Anonymous No.19811736]

>>19811700
The abbot Severatus Lupus (died in 862) was certainly familiar with Catullus. The notion of a crude Gothic representation of him hiding in some backroom in a French cathedral is not impossible.

[Anonymous No.19811737]

>>19811724
Nice - I hear Crayola is having a sale.
>>19811711
There isn't a discussion just you groaning about an enthused professor.

[Anonymous No.19811740]

>>19811721
So pr*t boy, show me the scripture where one can deny Christ and still go to heaven.

[Anonymous No.19811742]

>>19811705
Your opinion is reddit lol

[Anonymous No.19811744]

>>19811668
lmaooo go clean your room, brainlet

[Anonymous No.19811745]

>>19811707
but why would the book have to start from the right side? we write from left to right but our books are justified cover

[Anonymous No.19811749]

>>19811734
>Cope harder. Name one other book that has been memorized by millions of people in its entirety, flawlessly
Mao's red book.

[Anonymous No.19811750]

>>19811736
>abbot
Gosh darn, what are abbots doing? Rereading Aristotle? The Holy Bible is the most important book of all time.

[Anonymous No.19811751]

>>19811732
Are you implying parts of the Bible have less authority than other parts?

[Anonymous No.19811754]

>>19811737
Stay mad and in defense of daddy peterson. Maybe if you keep it up his daughter will give you some sloppy.

[Anonymous No.19811755]

>>19811744
>memes instead of thoughts
>>19811742
>memes instead of thoughts
>>19811740
>>19811710

[Anonymous No.19811757]

>>19811425
No one cares, dude

[Anonymous No.19811762]

>>19811745
Anon it isn't hard to figure out. It's so that you turn the page in direction of your reading/writing. Latin script is from left to right so English books start from the left.

[Anonymous No.19811763]

>>19811751
Yes. Read a History of the Bible - the collection is largely based on Guttenberg putting them together and tradition. FWIW because you may be interested, scripture wasn't numbered until pronting press too

[Anonymous No.19811765]

>>19811755
Yes, so Peterson will be judged for his heresy.

[Anonymous No.19811768]

Friendly reminder that this guy is a transphobe and is directly funded by the Koch brothers to deradicalize would-be radical leftists

[Anonymous No.19811773]

>>19811765
>hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken
>the word
>logos
Seriously reread John it's clear as day that you can curse Christ too.

[Anonymous No.19811776]

>>19811768
Post tits

[Anonymous No.19811777]

>>19811755
your messiah humiliated himself for four and a half (4.5) hours straight. and this is how you cope? sad.

[Anonymous No.19811779]

>>19811773
Go ahead and curse Christ. I won't stop you. I may pray for you though.

[Anonymous No.19811783]

>>19811754
I don't see why that would incentivize my defending him. Care to explain?

[Anonymous No.19811788]

>>19811762
I get that, but why would the cover have to be on the bottom? You could have a script that goes from left to write but still turn the pages the correct way instead of reversing it

[Anonymous No.19811792]

>>19811779
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

[Anonymous No.19811795]

>>19811792
To deny the historical authenticity of Christ is to also deny the authenticity of the Holy Ghost.

[Anonymous No.19811800]

>>19811779
>>19811792
>>19811795
meds now

[Anonymous No.19811802]

>>19811788
The cover isn't on the bottom. The cover is shown on the pic. Since Arabic script is in reverse order of Latin, everything of the book is in reverse order compared to books in English.

[Anonymous No.19811804]

>>19811800
If you dont believe Christ was a real person how can you be a sincere Christian?
Like I said... He only sees worth in Christianity as a structure for society. He cares more about the world than Christ.

[Anonymous No.19811810]

>>19811802
why the hell would you want to read through something in reverse?

[Anonymous No.19811815]

>>19811795
Teachings of Christ > Jesus's body. It's the same thing for why the virgin birth is totally arbitrary

[Anonymous No.19811823]

>>19811810
>he doesn't read his books in reverse
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.19811842]

>>19811795
Anywho signing off and you're in my prayers. God bless!

[Anonymous No.19811845]

>>19811667
>>19811693
>>19811745
>>19811788
>>19811810

[Anonymous No.19811868]

>>19811842
Thanks anon. I guess lol.

[Anonymous No.19811986]

>>19811006
Whoa did he finally read Derrida?

[Anonymous No.19812000]

>>19810928
>After the the fall of western roman empire, "western" culture was completely separated from Ancient culture.

Yeah it became christian culture

[Anonymous No.19812018]

lol at the /lit/ straw grasping even though most of what he's saying is true. sage

[Anonymous No.19812022]

>>19811232
To be fair there was a genuine period that could be called a dark age for western europe but it was imho only between like 500 and a little after 700.

And Enlightenment liberals didn't invent the idea of the dark ages. It was actually Petrarch and other Renaissance figures. Half the point of the Italian Renaissance was to WE WUZ as Romans after several centuries of Italy taking French and German dick.

[Anonymous No.19812041]

>>19810727
damn wait until he finally reads derrida's writing about metaphysics of presence, he's gonna FREAK when he realises the bible is shaped by greek metaphysics..... ontotheology is gonna blow his fucking mind

[Anonymous No.19812051]

>>19812018
What he is saying is basic. And poorly articulated. Like the incoherent ramblings of a stoner.

[Anonymous No.19812069]

>>19810727
It's fucking hilarious how this board likes to pretend that Peterson isn't relevant or "LE HOW CAN YOU TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY" yet continues making a shitload of threads about him every week.

Yer a bunch of resentful, envious fucks the all of you.