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>if I use nihilist-tier skepticism towards everything that isn’t Buddhism maybe that will make it true

>> No.19806928

Behold: a thread!

>> No.19806941

>>19806910
Buddha sisters… surely we have an answer for that?

>> No.19806961

If you ask a question and don't find the answer, you're in real trouble: you don't know the answer! But if you don't ask the question, there is no search, no delusion, no suffering. Questions create illusion and Illusion creates suffering. When we search for an answer, we're not looking for the truth: we're looking for something to stop the suffering that we created by the question.

>> No.19806964

>>19806941
I can give neither an answer nor a non-answer
Both and answer and non-answer
Neither neither nor both!

>> No.19806974

>>19806961
Kino answer, a shame you only understand this externally.

>> No.19806981

>>19806964
Wow, such impeccable logic! Buddhism is le science!

>> No.19806993
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>>19806981
Bro... quantum mechanics proves it

>> No.19806997

>>19806961
basdhgsacfsn bfhgnxbfjkdsafh basnfgsandb sajhf nb vcsbhv mbszavdsnbfvshvfsbnfvdsjhgfdsfnjbah,JDHN

>> No.19807048
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>>19806910
>Buddha taught the relinquishment of all views as explained by Nagarjuna
>That’s why you have to accept this dogmatic and counter-intuitive model of selflessness that denies the validity of something which is self-evident and natural —our sense of having a center of being which persists throughout time —and instead posit this convoluted Rube Goldberg machine type model where groups of aggregates create an illusion of centeredness and continuity; this is definitely not a view!

>> No.19807089

>>19807048
You’re not supposed to cling to either self or no-self. Or cling to non-clinging. Or both. Maybe neither.

>> No.19807127
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>>19807089
>If I put on a show and dance about not clinging to things, that will allow me to skirt around the contradiction of propounding the relinquishment of all views while at the same time requiring the acceptance of counterintuitive dogmas!

>> No.19807146

>>19807127
Learn about the two-truths sweety

>> No.19807156

>>19807048
>>19807127
nice
absolute gentleman right here
I bet you can grow excellent facial hair

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>>19807127
>>19807048
Let's see you prove your view that the discursive thoughts you had about x or y are ontologically true

>> No.19807172

>>19807160
It's better to have a coherent viewpoint that ultimately depends on an act of faith, than one that is just incoherent.

>> No.19807183

>>19807172
What is incoherent about saying the real is incoherent, i.e. non-discursive, and can only be approximated and never grasped, only intuited through direct experience and never expressed? Take a real leap of faith if that's what you're so into.

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>>19807048
>this is definitely not a view
This is a view. And Niggarjungle does not deny it. He actually states that everything he claims is a view because it's only a path to the Big E. Non-view is at the end of the path and all that sunyata shit needs to be abandoned too. Clinging to Nigga's teaching is an obstacle to enlightenment, according to himself.
>counter-intuitive
Existence is counter-intuitive. Our senses are just vague, inaccurate translators and our cognition have limits. The only natural and self-evident thing we can make of a center of being is a sort of primitive consensual reality for our species that we can use as a base to build civilization. But the consensual reality is not true reality, it's just an overwhelming meta-interpretation.

>> No.19807189

>>19807183
>What is incoherent about saying the real is incoherent, i.e. non-discursive, and can only be approximated and never grasped,
Watch yourself, you might make that into a view

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>>19807189
You missed the point. Too committed to some refuted position I'm sure

>> No.19807216

>>19807188
>consensual reality
That smacks of postmodern shit. Next thing you’re gonna say mathematics is a social construct due to white colonialism or some other garbage.

>> No.19807223

>>19807188
If I kill you in your sleep you’ll die without even knowing. Nothing constructed or consensual about it.

>> No.19807224

>>19807216
You know it’s postmodern because it has the word consensual in it. And real Aryan men don’t care about consent.

>> No.19807253

>>19807216
>>19807224
Given it's the madhyamaka two truths doctrine I assume he meant 'conventional' but is too ESL

>> No.19807271

>>19807253
I feared that if any sentient being were to object to the consensual truth it would no longer be consensual and the universe would fall apart

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I know I know Buddha sisters! Let have a vote and if the majority decides that black holes emit rainbows and I am a real woman then it will be true! Finally I can be a real woman!

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>>19807280
>woman
You will never be a Buddha

>> No.19807299

>>19807280
You have always been a real woman to me, Buddha-sister.