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[Anonymous No.19774826]

The real blackpill of this book isn’t that Liberalism is a fundamentally broken system, it’s that we’re incapable of creating an alternative to it in spite of how bad it is

[Anonymous No.19774876]

Your individual rights only exist by the majority consensus and state power and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

[Anonymous No.19774896]

Why is that?

[Anonymous No.19774957]

If the main point of this book isn't roughly "Democracy is retarded and will never work, and dumb normies can't be left in charge to guide the ship of the state," then the book is midwit and a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.19774958]

These pop polsci books are just as much of a grift as self-help.

[Anonymous No.19774971]

>>19774958
/thread

[Anonymous No.19774972]

>>19774958
Until a political scientist has the gargantuan balls to say that niggers and kikes are the problem, and not economic and class differences, political books will be pointless reading and we will never make progress as a society.

[Anonymous No.19775034]

>>19774826
stop reading bullshit. Liberalism is a hoax. It should not exist. The world is and always will be controlled by Money lenders, Central banks, and their cohorts. The real blackpill is that Usury started on a global scale in Ancient Rome and led to the subversion and destruction of the west. Liberalism is a symptom of a dying European culture and people. The users have created it as a coping mechanism to deal with the current situation. Making us middle class slaves seem like we have a voice and that it matters. (It doesn't)

[Anonymous No.19775044]

>>19775034
>stop reading books

[Anonymous No.19775049]

>>19775034
This is the essence of it right here.

[Anonymous No.19775062]

>>19775044
kek. Books are fine. Just read the non-cucked ones.

[Anonymous No.19775095]

>>19775049
>This is the essence of /lit/ right here.

[Anonymous No.19775116]

>>19775062
Which are?
>inb4 History of Central Banking

[Anonymous No.19775123]

>>19775095
>>19775049
>Jesus whipped the money changers until they fled the Holy site.
>As he cleansed the Temple of greed and profit, Jesus quoted from Isaiah 56:7: "My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you make it a den of robbers." (Matthew 21:13, ESV)
>The high priest received a percentage of the profit from the money changers and merchants, so their removal from the Temple precinct would have caused a financial loss to him. Because pilgrims were unfamiliar with Jerusalem, the Temple merchants sold sacrificial animals at a higher price than elsewhere in the city. The high priest overlooked their dishonesty, as long as he got his share.
>Jesus drove out the money changers from the Temple on Monday of Passion Week, just three days before the Passover and four days before his crucifixion.

This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.19775128]

>>19775116
Holy Bible, and I was a double major one in history one in economics so I connected the dots

[Anonymous No.19775132]

>>19774972
Why Liberalism Failed isn't about "economic and class differences," its a critique of the fundamental axioms underpinning Liberalism. Please try to read a book before you post on this site. Not even necessarily the book being discussed, just, y'know, ANY book.

[Anonymous No.19775145]

>>19775132
Still not talking about how niggers and heebs are the problem, ergo it's a pointless book. Shut your sophomore liberal arts mouth, cuck. You aren't smarter than me.

[Anonymous No.19775161]

>>19774957
>"Democracy is retarded and will never work, and dumb normies can't be left in charge to guide the ship of the state,"
The sad truth is that modern Democracy never was about the people and despite what the elites are telling you, you have no power or say at all in a democracy.

[Anonymous No.19775164]

>>19774957
"Democracy is bad because the stupid populace shouldn't rule" is the most midwit critique of all time

[Anonymous No.19775166]

>>19775145
Weak bait

[Anonymous No.19775171]

>>19774972
kinda based desu. Nuke NY & Israel, deport all joggers to Africa and then live like the Amish. There a better solution than whatever the best political "scientist" can come up with.

[Anonymous No.19775175]

Important reminder.
Always buy the inferior books shilled by /lit/ pseuds. Definitely don't buy or read the classics.

[Anonymous No.19775178]

>>19775132
vast differences between economic classes (Wealth gap) exist because of central banking. Orchestrated Boom bust economic cycles have been going on since Roman times. Every. Single.Time. The users come buy up the real estate and cheap assets during the bust and unload them during the economic boom cycle that follows. Thats how they control global finance

[Anonymous No.19775186]

>>19774972
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[Anonymous No.19775196]

>>19775186
I want to kill all richfags though. White richfags are honestly worse since they're just selling their own people out for profit. At least Jews are just exploiting goyim.

[Anonymous No.19775199]

>>19775164
The "stupid populace ruling" is literally the definition of democracy lmao. The two are inseparable.

Freshman english majors who never read Aristotle and Hobbes, please kindly shut the fuck up and go back to the Joyce fart threads. You have no clue what you are talking about regarding anything.

[Anonymous No.19775205]

>>19775132
>critique of the fundamental axioms underpinning Liberalism
Such as?
And why not critique?

[Anonymous No.19775209]

>>19775199
Yeah I'm well aware of the definition Aristotle used. 99% of the people who use his critique also just blindly define our current system as a democracy while still using his definition.

[Anonymous No.19775211]

>>19775196
>I want to kill all richfags though
Gets a pass from me then. I wish you'd be nicer to the average black and semite (who resides outside of Israel) though, anon.

[Anonymous No.19775213]

>>19775196
not all richfags are a problem. The problem is the richfags that continue to propagate the selfish, narcissistic boomer neo-con mentality that "I got mine" so fuck everyone else! Instead of using their money to redpill people or help fight for a noble cause that isn't being greedy fucks and stepping on their fellow people to acquire more wealth that they don't need. The problem is that there is no community. Tech and money worship have made people resentful, jealous and greedy.

[Anonymous No.19775225]

>>19775211
Bro look at every single rapper and most black athletes. They are the most narcissistic fucks on the planet. Most of them degenerate. Your community needs to clean up, before you start screaming "Muh white mans da devil!"

White men arent slaughtering thousands of blacks in chicago and baltimore every year. Blacks are doing that to eachother.

[Anonymous No.19775228]

>>19775225
mostly because those cities are run by Rich liberal jews who treat blacks like cattle in order to win elections

[Anonymous No.19775236]

>>19775186
Biden's literal entire cabinet is full 100% kosher. But of course that's pure coincidence right?

[Anonymous No.19775247]

>>19774826
>The real blackpill of this book isn’t that Liberalism is a fundamentally broken system, it’s that we’re incapable of creating an alternative to it
private laws society aka anarcho capitalism

either that or anarcho theocracy like the Israelites had before the kings

[Anonymous No.19775283]

>>19775236
>he's not a jew but UHHHH this guy is and UHHH actually yeah he's in charge
my favourite though is
>Miguel is a crypto jew

[Anonymous No.19775291]

>>19774972
>>19775145

Glow post

[Anonymous No.19775296]

>>19775236
>>19775186

kek holy shit. Dont forget congress members with dual citizenship with Israel

[Anonymous No.19775306]

>>19775171
You wouldn't last a week living like the Amish

mxnnn

[Anonymous No.19775321]

>>19775236

>"100% Kosher"
>Has to call non-Jews "crypto jews"

[Anonymous No.19775327]

>>19775236
>jews marrying non jews
>jews

[Anonymous No.19775333]

>>19775291
No I just don't give a fuck about calling out the truth. Not everyone is a spayed and neutered NPCbot who is afraid of the government.

[Anonymous No.19775383]

There is a real problem with good goyim.
Gentile capitalists like Bezos, Gates, Musk and the Koch brothers don’t have racial solidarity like Jewish bankers do.
Big successful Jews like Jacob Rothschild and George Soros donate generously to their less successful kinsmen in Israel, gentiles don’t do that.
This is what caused the demise of the WASP elites in America, the Protestant work ethic and spirit of capitalism just couldn’t compete against the Jewish revolutionary spirit.
Guess that’s our one great weakness, we were too busy chasing profits to see what was really important, and now we suffer the consequences.

[Anonymous No.19775389]

>>19775333
trips of choronzontic truth

[Anonymous No.19775407]

>>19774826

I'm sorry no one is actually interacting with your post OP, this is actually a good book that is more useful than reading Evola or Ma or much of the other shit that gets pushed here.

Deneen comes from an interesting perspective of Catholic integralists that have been gaining power in the Republican party. I can't remember if Deneen himself is Republican or Democrat, but still, the rise of post liberalism is a force that more people should be aware of.

If you found this book interesting, check out the works of John Gray (Philosopher). His book Enlightenment's Wake is a good place to start. His argument is that this idea of liberal universalism is failing (liberal universalism being the idea that we can turn the whole world culturally into Canada or New York). Communism and Liberalism are part of an Enlightenment ideology, where one day we will reach "the end of history." Gray argues that this is bullshit, there never will be an end to history, and that everywhere in the world, except for the West, we see the rise of ideologies that are aiming to challenge liberalism. He points to the failure of liberalism to take root in the nations of the former Soviet Union as proof of the liberal system failing. The liberal system is built on a particular set of rules and customs unique to Western nations, it cannot just be replicated in alien cultures, and even within our own cultures, he points out the undercurrents that threaten it here (the book is from 1996, but much of these undercurrents would develop into national populism, Trump, Brexit, etc.).

I wish Gray was more widely read, his philosophy really is a good framework for the current and coming world.

[Anonymous No.19775414]

>>19775383
Fuck off fed boi

[Anonymous No.19775435]

>>19775407
I actually wonder if Deneen's book getting posted doesn't set off some kind of alarm in a fed database or something. Literally every time it pops up, people come in to talk about Jews and black people to derail the thread. Almost as if there's a deliberate attempt to avoid discussing its actual contents.

But it is an interesting book. I've actually met Deneen, too. He's a cool guy. Very pugnacious for an academic.

[Anonymous No.19775439]

>>19775407
>gets pushed here.
This book has been shilled here ever since its release.
Go to bed Patrick

[Anonymous No.19775487]

>>19775186
The funny thing is you think it's either/or. Nationalism, democracy, and populism (the hoi polloi revolting against the elite) are all intertwined. How to break the unity of the working-class? Divide it. What ethnicity, when allowed to express its perspective at a high level, creates the natural conditions for pluralism among the working-class? Well, I don't have to tell you. You know.

[Anonymous No.19775490]

There's so many books that analyze why everything is shit. But are there books that then go on to show an alternative? If there's no real alternative, and liberalism truly is the last system of government, why bother with an analysis?

[Anonymous No.19775498]

>>19775435
Because modern political science is bullshit. And until you acknowledge the real problems, then political science is astrology-tier.

[Anonymous No.19775502]

>>19774826
Is this guy a neo reactionary?

[Anonymous No.19775506]

>>19774826
>What is socialism for $20, Alex?

[Anonymous No.19775514]

>>19775247
youd be skinned alive in an ancap reality faggot

[Anonymous No.19775515]

>>19775435

Literally, there are so many retards in this thread that I agree and really think that there probably is some concentrated effort by people to disrupt discussions of this book.

The book is well thought out, coherent, and not racist. I'm not going to say Deneen is a savior of mankind, but if you wanted to start a real political movement, books like this are an important intellectual cornerstone for rationalizing a new ideology. We cannot live under the idea that history is a storybook and we are just waiting for its end.


>>19775439
You caught me. It's me, Patrick Deneen. 57-year-old Notre Dame professor, posting on a website renowned for shitposting and racism. I really fucking just want to sell my books to this crowd by leaving slightly positive reviews on a /lit/ thread, rather than going on a publishing tour or advertising my book through op-eds in national magazines and publishing sites. It's flawless logic, how did you catch me.

[Anonymous No.19775525]

>>19775490
>>19775205

[Anonymous No.19775530]

>>19775487
explain the british empire

[Anonymous No.19775628]

Leftism does not work.

[Anonymous No.19775631]

>>19774826
>it’s that we’re incapable of creating an alternative to it in spite of how bad it is

We HAD an alternative. We had an alternative and it worked just fine for literally thousands of years. Then some retards in France and England started having retarded ideas, so we chucked that system in the trash and tried liberal democracy instead. And now here we are and everything is shitty.

The solution is to remember how good the old system was and reestablish it, as best we can. We need to bring back monarchy and aristocracy.

[Anonymous No.19775659]

>>19774826
>monarchism worked for hundreds for years
>liberalism destroys itself in 100

[Anonymous No.19775666]

>>19775186
>bunker trannies are unironically simping for elites now
Fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.19775688]

>>19775236
Did JIDF make this image? It's too schizo. Just listing the half or so Jews would be more convincing, without all the cryptoJew and mixing in jew-by-marriage. Could still have the marriage part in a following section if you insist.

>>19775407
Can the "new Americans" learn these behaviors? Especially while the school curriculum is running away from teaching them?

>>19775515
You say it's not racist, like HBD isn't a thing.

[Anonymous No.19775697]

>>19775666
do you know what simping means and can you explain what part of this is simping?

[Anonymous No.19775713]

>>19775697
Commies are the ones who always defend the rich jews and claim they don't work together

[Anonymous No.19775746]

>>19775713
and how exactly is this being expressed on the image?

[Anonymous No.19775754]

>>19775746
Leftists will claim white people got rich because of their privilege and then say jews got rich because of their hard work and not nepotism

[Anonymous No.19775757]

>>19775407
>>19775435
>>19775515
Almost every thread about Liberalism gets derailed because most people who care about politics don’t read books and don’t actually know shit about how the modern world is constructed. They would much rather talk about media spectacles and culture war nonsense than investigate the system any deeper. Ironically this is one of Liberalism’s main functions, make people believe they actively participate in the system through their political shitflinging

[Anonymous No.19775764]

>>19775754
so what you're saying is, you need to take your meds?

[Anonymous No.19775775]

>>19775764
Thanks for proving my point