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19773908 No.19773908 [Reply] [Original]

How do fat great minds even exist? It seems a near universally among the great held opinion to disdain and fully disvalue indulgence in bread, that those sensory pleasures are every sort of ignoble, fit only for the weak, the dumb, the foolish, not for any man with ideals or pursuit, sinful, earthly in the worst possible way, illusory, and so on. And yet there are some rare exceptions such as most paradoxically Aquinas, who is described as fat. How did Aquinas sin against all his teachings? Then out of the top of my head there are: Von Neumann, Chesterton, Churchill, Hume, Franklin, Roosevelt, Einstein(barely, not really), and many more, including those who weren't fat but weren't near as lean as a holly man should be, and among those in great quantity men in their older age. Of course in this category of great men the gluttonous are nonetheless infinitely outnumbered by those who practiced temperance and had no attachment to gastronomic pleasures, eating exclusively to survive and for fuel, and of those I shall make no attempt to list examples, as that disposition is a rule of character in all the greatest and most virtuous men, to whom no greater and more virtuous will you find; and yet there are exceptions, as St. Thomas, and all so many others, greater and lesser, and especially men in their older age. How do you reconcile this?
Are they just not so goodly, all too human?
I'm currently thin(/"normal" - though this may change soon -) but like all the vile dirty sinful very thin sed youthful de masses in the past with indulgence and illusion have struggled and do with temptation still struggle. Now I'm doing ascetic fasting. What do you think?

>> No.19773940

>>19773908
Oh and gibbon just saw that in the catalog. Berkeley. I heard Leopardi of all people liked to eat a shit ton of ice cream, which for me also is among the highest gustatory pleasures I can think of.

>> No.19773965

>>19773908
I don't even understand how people get very fat. I often go through periods of inactivity and complete disregard for diet, but I've nevet managed to depart from my usual weight by more than 2 kg. How much do these people eat? Are they gorging themselves every fifteen minutes? How do you stack up more than 100kg of fat body mass and maintain it?

>> No.19773972

Being fat isn't a sin, being gluttonous is. If you eat a standard amount but don't move around and read all day, you will get fat. You don't have to be gluttonous to have a calorie surplus.

>> No.19773986

>>19773972
Found a fattie

>> No.19773999
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>>19773908
>being fat is bad
>why?
>because eating lots of food is bad
>why?
>because enjoying life is bad

>> No.19774010

I'm ready to take the fatpill and let others carry my weight upon society. Bring more cheese and bread please, I am feeling rather peckish and need to finish copying the Psalms for the 35th time.

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>>19773908
>meanwhile Plato...(pic)
Why hasn't there been another philosopher with the body of an Olympic champion (which he was) like Plato? They all look skinny af...

>> No.19774140

>>19773908
I think Aquinas was just a gigantic nigga. He swam in rivers and walked everywhere. Everyone also thought he was retarded in college because he was quiet. Speak up kids!

>> No.19774188

Was this post written by AI?

>> No.19774241

>>19773908
>Churchill
>Roosevelt
>Einstein
>Great minds
lol
Einstein was a fraud and the first two were some of the most evil men of the 20th century.

>> No.19774474

>>19774188
English is not my first language.

>> No.19774505

>>19773908
>Von Neumann
Idk who this is but their last name is one of my grandparents maiden names

>> No.19774536

>>19773999
Being fat isn’t being happy although eating may be euphoric, you’d have an argument there

And what’s more is people don’t look at obesity as negative because they don’t want the person to be ‘happy’

It’s because it’s unhealthy and strangers don’t care if you’re fat because they don’t care about you

>> No.19774612

>>19774536
>strangers don’t care if you’re fat because they don’t care about you
aquinas is long dead. it’s obvious anon isn’t shit-talking him out of “concern for his health.” it’s a spiritual or ethical objection to fatness or “gluttony” in itself. so anon is obligated to defend this objection. but he can’t, so he retreats to the safer position that fatness is bad because it leads to some OTHER negative outcome. completely conceding the original point. many such cases!

>> No.19775024

>>19774612
Some sort of antipathy towards fat people does seem to be deeply ingrained. Among kids, the fat ones will often be bullied for that exact reason and it continues into adolescence. The sight of a naked fat body causes revulsion in most people. I'm not saying this to be mean, but this seems to be how things are. A lot of men and women will say very insensitive, cruel things about someone with a weight issue behind their back. It's like they truly do see it as a sign of a deficient person, someone who needs to be casted out. I don't know if this is nature or nurture, but it's there. Most humans dislike fatness and i don't think fat studies will be able to curtail this any time soon. They will probably manage to completely normalize prepuberty transgender surgery than being fat.

>> No.19775290

>>19775024
>people think it’s icky
not an argument

>> No.19775302
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This debate analysis really showed to me that most atheists are retards, most Roman Catholics are weak cowards, and Jay Dyer is based.
https://youtu.be/FS_Y0P9CYgo

>> No.19775425

Big dog gotta eat

>> No.19776242

I wouldn’t say gluttonous. As >>19773972 stated, if you eat regular amounts, but don’t exercise much then you get fat. It could also be argued that he’s always had a more ‘large frame.’

>> No.19776297

>>19773908
Von Neumann was not fat. What do you mean OP?

>> No.19776346

>>19776297
> Von Neumann liked to eat and drink; his wife, Klara, said that he could count everything except calories.

>> No.19776348

>>19775024
You do know that many European people used to literally kill fatties, right? Gauls for example would have a ritual every year, you'd have to wear a bronze belt. If you couldn't fit it, they'd hammer the belt so it'd fit. If the next year you could also not put it on, there went your head.