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Can someoen recommend to be a book about a FEMALE evil protagonist? Can't seem to find something interesting

>> No.19740418

Joseph and his Brothers by Thomas Mann.

>> No.19740422

>>19740418
Sorry, i didn't notice that you said protagonist.

>> No.19740430

>>19739785
Macbeth, Lady Macbeth sorta fits the bill

>> No.19740438

>>19740430
came here to post this
>>19740418
based

It's a shame you can't do this anymore. Female evil is real and interesting

>> No.19740446

>>19739785
Emma by Jane Austen for the first half or so. I know that sounds really stupid, but hear me out. The first half of the book is a great example of an unreliable and ironic narrator. You slowly start to realize just how wrong Emma herself is about her world and how much she is harming and distressing everybody around her.

>> No.19740448

>>19739785
are you fine with weeb shit?

>> No.19740455

>>19739785
Bernanos's first novel, Under Satan's Sun, has an evil or semi-evil female protagonist, but only in the first part mostly.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/364143.Under_Satan_s_Sun

>> No.19740462

>>19740448
yes of course

It's √16 chan

>> No.19740498

>>19740462
Dungeon Defense

>> No.19740575

>>19739785
Medea by Euripides

>> No.19740583

>>19739785
Cathy Ames in East of Eden is fantastic villainous protagonist.

>> No.19740607

>>19739785
Anon, there are lots of books with female protagonists

>> No.19740616

>>19739785
my ex's diary desu

>> No.19740621 [DELETED] 

>no one has said the bible yet

>> No.19740872

Thank you so much lads I'll take a look

>> No.19740883

>>19739785
Gone Girl

>> No.19740884

>>19740607
But not evil

>> No.19740887

>>19740884
There's no distinction

>> No.19740918

>>19740887
I want a woman who kills, tortures and does disgusting shit and gets away with it.

>> No.19741034

>>19739785
Vanity Fair

>> No.19741050

>>19739785
Parsifal, Kundry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMG-WFPKi4w

>> No.19741053

>>19739785
Beowulf, no?
>protagonist
Oh. And evil? I guess you'd want villainess isekai light novels. It's an entire subgenre.

>> No.19741060

>>19740918
Cathy Ames kills people, emotionally torments them for decades, and does some of the most evil shit you ever heard of.

>> No.19741109

>>19741060
picked up

>> No.19741119

>>19739785
The Piano Teacher. You can also watch the movie.

>> No.19741137

>>19739785
>FEMALE evil protagonist
There aren't that many evil protagonists, that's the big problem. The closest you get is evil anti-hero / tragic hero (e.g. Macbeth). Very hard to make an out-and-out evil protagonist because we naturally see things through the main character's eyes and hence sympathize with him. (Milton's Satan goes this route for example.)

Three books with more-or-less unlikeable female main characters:

— Medea (Euripides)
— Vanity Fair (Thackery)
— Madame Bovary (Flaubert)
— The Bell Jar (Plath)

>> No.19741142

>>19741137
I can't count to four.

>> No.19741182

>>19740918
Look around you. How many women are abortionists (kill), emotionally abuse men for their own neurotic pleasure (torture), generally whore around (disgusting shit) and get away with it? And tell me again, what is the distinction between an evil woman and a woman.

>> No.19741184

>>19741137
I read one called Full Brutal. MC is crazy and it made me seek for more like it

>> No.19741209

>>19741182
Don't spread your sad interactions with women here please. Go do that somewhere else

>> No.19742982

>>19739785
Gone Girl

>> No.19743114

>>19741137
Volumnia in Coriolanus is pure evil, then there's that snitch bitch Juliet's nurse. The pyromaniac Hedda Gabler offs herself in the end, using her prized heirloom pistol, but hardly anyone will take her perspective the way they do with the spendthrift Madame Bovary sliding into financial ruin.

>> No.19743173

>>19739785
The second story in my epic features a woman using everyone around her like tools in order to achieve her vision. When she finally starts to wonder if her latest squeeze might be more than just a means to signing a paycheck I blow her head off.

>> No.19743232

>>19740446
Emma is hardly *evil* though

>> No.19743258

>>19739785
Juliette

>> No.19743262

The Torture Garden

>> No.19743341

>>19739785
East of Eden

>> No.19743852

>>19739785
YA female protagonists are pretty evil honestly

>> No.19743915

>>19739785
Genesis

>> No.19744250 [DELETED] 

>>19740918
If you just want an evil woman, not necessarily the protagonist, that's easy. Here are twenty, together with their crimes. [Modest general spoiler alert, I suppose, although there shouldn't be much that's not common knowledge.]


— Medea (Medea, Euripides)
Killing her own children in a fit of pique after her husband leaves her for a hotter younger girl.

— Grendel's mother (Beowulf, Unknown author)
All-round anti-social behaviour. (Her son is also far from perfect, for which she must take at least partial responsibility.)

— Lady Macbeth (Macbeth, Shakespeare)
Bullying her husband into regicide by saying it's what any real man would do.

— Goneril & Regan (King Lear, Shakespeare)
Lying, cheating, poisoning, pulling people's eyes out. Rudeness to their father.

— Tamora, Queen of the Goths (Titus Andronicus, Shakespeare)
Giving her sons an innocent girl to rape and kill.

— Eve (Paradise Lost, Milton)
Condemning humanity to toil and misery.

— Mrs Norris (Mansfield Park, Jane Austen)
Low-key spitefulness. Making sure Fanny doesn't have a fire in her room.

— Madame DeFarge (A Tale of Two Cities, Dickens)
Knitting, scheming, evil cackling.

— Milday de Winter (The Three Musketeers, Dumas)
Scheming, seduction, espionage, assassination, gleeful wickedness. (She's a cutie though. I personally would have forgiven her.)

— Mrs. De Ropp (Sredni Vashtar, Saki)
Cruelty. Authoritarianism. Quintessentially Saki-overbearing-female behaviour.

— Mrs Compson (The Sound and the Fury, Faulkner)
Whining and complaining, mostly. (This might seem comparatively mild, but she elevates it to a mortal sin.)

— Rebecca de Winter (Rebecca, Daphne du Maurier)
Adultery, duplicitousness, unspecified acts of unspeakable perversion.

— Brigid O'Shaughnessey (The Maltese Falcon, Hammett)
Unrepentant femme-fatale-ing. Shooting Miles Archer.

— Livia (I Claudius, Graves)
Scheming, powermongering, poisoning as a way of life.

— Cathy Ames (East of Eden, Steinbeck)
Scheming, manipulation. Turning a perfectly respectable brothel into a sick den of sadomasochism.

— Shelob (The Two Towers, Tolkien)
Poisoning Frodo with a view to eating him later.

— Jadis, AKA The White Witch (The Magician's Nephew & others, Lewis)
Killing literally everyone in the world except herself. Corruption of children via sugary snacks. Persistent megalomania.

— Nurse Ratched (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Kesey)
Psychological torture and subjugation of her patients.

— Sophy & Toni Stanhope (Darkness Visible, Golding)
Sociopathy, sexual sadism, nihilistic acts of terrorism, general disregard for the wellbeing of others.

— Lucy van Pelt (Peanuts, Charles Schultz)
Fraudulent psychiatric advice. Pulling the football away.

>> No.19744263

>>19740918
If you just want an evil woman, not necessarily the protagonist, that's easy. Here are twenty, together with their crimes. [Modest general spoiler alert, I suppose, although there shouldn't be much that's not common knowledge.]


— Medea (Medea, Euripides)
Killing her own children in a fit of pique after her husband leaves her for a hotter younger girl.

— Grendel's mother (Beowulf, Unknown author)
All-round anti-social behaviour. (Her son is also far from perfect, for which she must take at least partial responsibility.)

— Lady Macbeth (Macbeth, Shakespeare)
Bullying her husband into regicide by saying it's what any real man would do.

— Goneril & Regan (King Lear, Shakespeare)
Lying, cheating, poisoning, pulling people's eyes out. Rudeness to their father.

— Tamora, Queen of the Goths (Titus Andronicus, Shakespeare)
Giving her sons an innocent girl to rape and mutilate.

— Eve (Paradise Lost, Milton)
Condemning humanity to toil and misery.

— Mrs Norris (Mansfield Park, Jane Austen)
Low-key spitefulness. Making sure Fanny doesn't have a fire in her room.

— Madame DeFarge (A Tale of Two Cities, Dickens)
Knitting, scheming, evil cackling.

— Milday de Winter (The Three Musketeers, Dumas)
Scheming, seduction, espionage, assassination, gleeful wickedness. (She's a cutie though. I personally would have forgiven her.)

— Mrs. De Ropp (Sredni Vashtar, Saki)
Cruelty. Authoritarianism. Quintessentially Saki-overbearing-female behaviour.

— Mrs Compson (The Sound and the Fury, Faulkner)
Whining and complaining, mostly. (This might seem comparatively mild, but she elevates it to a mortal sin.)

— Rebecca de Winter (Rebecca, Daphne du Maurier)
Adultery, duplicitousness, unspecified acts of unspeakable perversion.

— Brigid O'Shaughnessey (The Maltese Falcon, Hammett)
Unrepentant femme-fatale-ing. Shooting Miles Archer.

— Livia (I Claudius, Graves)
Scheming, powermongering, poisoning as a way of life.

— Cathy Ames (East of Eden, Steinbeck)
Scheming, manipulation. Turning a perfectly respectable brothel into a sick den of sadomasochism.

— Shelob (The Two Towers, Tolkien)
Poisoning Frodo with a view to eating him later.

— Jadis, AKA The White Witch (The Magician's Nephew & others, Lewis)
Killing literally everyone in the world except herself. Corruption of children via sugary snacks. Persistent megalomania.

— Nurse Ratched (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Kesey)
Psychological torture and subjugation of her patients.

— Sophy & Toni Stanhope (Darkness Visible, Golding)
Sociopathy, sexual sadism, nihilistic acts of terrorism, general disregard for the wellbeing of others.

— Lucy van Pelt (Peanuts, Charles Schulz)
Fraudulent psychiatric advice. Pulling the football away.

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>> No.19744559

Lolita

>> No.19744581

>>19739785
Justine, Thérèse Raquin, Moll Flanders (not exactly evil, but she becomes a professional pickpocketer), Confessions of an English Maid (not evil, but a whore through and through), Zofloya.

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>>19739785
Gone to See the River Man by Kristopher Triana

Gradually through the chapters more and more back story is revealed about the (female) protagonist revealing her as an absolute piece of shit.

>> No.19745324

>>19739785
Anna Karenina maybe? Maybe not evil but she's a bitch

>> No.19745350

>>19740884
Lying about being a virgin is the most evil act a woman can commit, worse than murder

>> No.19745709

>>19739785
kent kicker in the slicker of it.
>inb4grace

>> No.19745796

Gone with the wind. Scarlett O'Hara is an evil cunt surrounded by good honest people in the south. It's a fun contrast. Plus it romanticizes slavery, if you're into that sort of thing

>> No.19746007

>>19741182
Based
>>19741209
Cringe

>> No.19746016

>>19743114
>Juliet's nurse
She was nice, though

>> No.19746018

>>19739785
Gone Girl (movie or book)

Also the film "I Care A Lot" has a female protagonist that's as evil as they come.

>> No.19746630

>>19744263
>brothel
>perfectly respectable

>> No.19747468

>>19741182
True. Women are evil, especially when enabled to be evil by everyone. OR maybe just people are evil, but women are especially evil. Maybe it's not much of a diff idk. But yeah they get away with it, like it was nothing.