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I'm almost done with this book. I'm looking for commentaries and literary criticism to read to understand it better. I'm particularly interested in Dostoevsky's criticism of liberalism via the characters Rakitin, Kolya and Madame Khokhlakov.

>> No.19738929

>>19738212
I believe Dreyfus has some lectures on the book.

>> No.19740320

Total deja vu. Are you messing with me, OP?

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>>19738212
Just finished reading all of Dosto’s fiction. Book in pic related would help you. Also some chapters of Frank’s bio talk about your idea.

>> No.19740857

>>19738212
The book is shallow and amounts to pure pulp fiction. Don't bother wasting any more time on it, move on to better authors like Tolstoy or Nabokov.

>> No.19741066

>>19738212
If you don't have JSTOR access through a university or something you can get a free account, which lets you read like 100 free papers per month.

For a few bucks you can also get a subscription to a literary magazine like the New York Review of Books which gives unlimited archives access. As with JSTOR, the archives are the important thing because they go back to a time when literary criticism was good.

There are also books that have been written about Dostoyevsky and his individual novels, can probably google for recommendations and get a good one as a pdf

>> No.19741117

>>19740857
t. DEFINITELY didn't read Bros K

>> No.19741243

>>19741117
I did read it. Dosto utterly fails to realize that, not only is there vast amounts of suffering that befalls people through no fault of their own (the girl locked in an outhouse freezing to death), but that for a human being to be capable of doing the worst things imaginable, it requires the concept of God. The most depraved acts, genital mutilation, suicide bombing, and essentially all war MUST come with a convincing endorsement from God for morally normal people to consent to it. It is ONLY WITH God that all things become permissible. The fundamentally over arcing ethic of the book falls flat.

>> No.19741258

>>19741243
I remember you from another Dostoyevsky thread. Are you a practicing Jew or just ethnic?

>> No.19741865

>>19741258
Not a Jew at all, you just have shit taste in literature.

>> No.19741984

>>19741243
>it requires the concept of God.
prove it

>> No.19742133

>>19741984
What form of proof would you find acceptable?

>> No.19742160

>>19741984
I can just imagine this anon reading any book ever and just arbitrarily shouting "PROVE IT" at the book every couple of sentences without engaging with the subject matter at all lol

>> No.19742181

>>19741243
>The most depraved acts
And they are depraved because?

>> No.19742192

>>19742160
>>19742133
the bold claims that all evil and war comes from religion even in the age of secularism is in fact a claim that requires at least SOME substantiating in order to be entertained

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>>19738212
If you want more essays and commentary read the Norton Critical Edition. Norton can be hit and miss sometimes but I think they did a solid job with their editions for Notes from Underground and Brothers Karamazov.

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?isbn=9780393926330&st=xl&ac=qr

>> No.19742203

>>19742160
Imagine living in the year of our lord 2022 and saying the root of all evil is belief in God. Even if it were true who cares, you won! Enjoy utopia, lmao.

>> No.19742230

>>19741243
the worst atrocities in human history were committed by godless communists who burned down churches and enforced atheism

>> No.19743074

>>19742192
You have failed to even accurately represent the claim. The claim is that evil and war require a divine sanction in order for average people to accept them. Even a "secular" country like the USA had George Bush claiming they were doing God's work when they went to war. Same for Hitler who explicitly claimed that the Aryan race were the pinnacle of God's creation and as such the defense of that race was a goal sanctioned by God. Such appeals to God are almost universal to all acts which the normal, in-build conscience of a human being would reject.

>> No.19743091

>>19742230
Wrong, Stalin used the mythology that the Tsar was between man and God, a divine position in itself, to build a cult of personality. Also, his rise was only possible with agreements he made with the Russian Church, Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort and presented Russia as a defender of Christian civilization.

>> No.19743094

>>19742203
What are you talking about? The majority in North America are Christian, but I forget how in love Christians are with their persecution complex.

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