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Hordes of Crows edition

Previous Thread:>>19708373

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
>>>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
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>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

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King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

>> No.19716460

>>19716413
we should have a matrix chat

>> No.19716466

>Cuckold themes in fantasy, LE BAD

I hope you are not this anon.

>> No.19716486

>>19716466
Cuck shit is always bad, I don't care if it's in fantasy or serious literature I just don't want to hear it. Fuck you.

>> No.19716491

>>19716486
Good to know that my post triggered such a reaction from you. How bad was it? Did you find her in bed with another guy?

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>>19716486
>Fuck you.
Imagine being you, the literal Cuck.

>> No.19716510 [DELETED] 

>>19716497
Tranny

>> No.19716512

>>19716466
Of course not. That shit happened. Read Ciceros attack on Verres, for example. I just dislike that Achamian is so pathetic. That he is suck a fucking cuckold. And that both him and the Scylvendi spend so much time pining for their whores. At least Serwe died, but I hear that Esmi still has her head attached in the later books, and that Achamian stays a cuck.

>> No.19716523

>>19716512
Of course that Achamian and Caniür are pathetic. They have Kellhus around them. What did you expect?

>> No.19716550

>>19716512
I dropped it for the same reason, 1 cuck subplot is interesting enough, 2 cuck subplots is repetitive, beyond that it's just bizarre. Same with the constant focus on whores.

My other issue was the overall setting was so grimdark it broke my immersion. Everyone is a rapist, cuck, baby killer, incest enjoywr, whore, or something on par. With such a wide cast there ought to be some people who love their family and kiss puppies but none of them seem to exist in the setting.

>> No.19716553

>>19716523
Yea, it's expected. And Achamian and Caniur obsessing about it is also expected. But it is a boring subplot and I wish Bakker would spend more time on almost anything else. The setting is so interesting, and the characters as well. Explore that instead. It is also lazy that he uses cuckoldry has a conflict device between Kellhus and both of Achamian and Caniur.

>> No.19716559

>>19716553
Any other writer would have turned Achamian into a submissive fucking cuck who suddenly forgot about everything and only focused on the Anasurimbor prophecy. Bakker doesn't do this. Achamian is resentfull until the bitter end and would throw the world into chaos if he had the chance, just to get revenge.

Kellhus isn't human too. You should understand that.

>> No.19716574

>>19716466
This general is filled with rejected incels. What did you expect?

>> No.19716580

>>19716559
I am not claiming that is not written well. I think it is an outsized part of the story.

>> No.19716591

>>19716580
Why? Those are literally the most important characters in Eärwa's history. There are reasons for everything that is happening, including the cuckold aspects, for reasons that might not seem obvious at first glance. You will have to read the Aspect-Emperor to understand why.

>> No.19716611

>>19716591
Probably because I can't think of a less interesting way to establish a conflict between two characters in this kind of setting.

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Just finished the Eternal Champion trilogy. I think in order of which I felt was best is Eternal Champion, Dragon in the Sword and then Phoenix in Obsidian. Eternal Champion was rather straight forward and great. Phoenix in Obsidian I just couldn't really care about any of the characters or what was going on really. Dragon in the Sword was a bit convoluted but overall still good. Probably give the series a 7.5 or 8/10
I am curious on what aspects of Elden Ring are inspired by the Eternal Champion as per Miyazaki's interview

>> No.19716625

>>19716574
I remember the time when fit and lit got merged. I didn't really check the threads though. What was the result? Zyzz worship, SS, diet books, or self help books focus? Was there at least less cuckoldry promotion than now? This seems really sick.

>> No.19716640

>>19716625
Cuckoldery is a degenerate proactive. No one is contesting that. But being triggered by it on a book is unironically pathetic.

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>>19716621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODNqxcRQGH4

>> No.19716671

plague of the flayed shall devour them.
tear the flesh from the heathen bones.
turn their thread to ash.
cast their bones to the fire.

how to write epic edge?

>> No.19716695

>>19716671
decent but you need to read more RS Bakker

>> No.19716706

Sanderson bad
Bakker good

>> No.19716723

>and he's 7 feet tall
>and he's a million years old but looks young
>and he's known as the lord of darkness
>and he's a expert fighter but also an expert mage
>and he's also a philosopher
>and he's fearless and spouts one lines in the face of danger
>and he carries a gigantic sword that traps enemies'souls and shit
>and he can turn into badass black dragon
>and all the other tiste andii at school think he's the coolest

>> No.19716734

>check Dune 1 star review
>Paul is 16 so the bitch should just shut up
>Also, it's misogyny. Fuck you
every single fucking time, I'm tired, guys.

>> No.19716767

>>19716734
just don't. People are dumb, so is this board.
>I'm so hecking tired nooo
replace that with
>wow that's stupid
simple, easy

>> No.19716777

>>19716767
Of course you are right. I am just always interested in other people's opinions. In other words: I get baited, thinking too highly of them. Gotta stop doing that.

>> No.19716836

>>19716767
I'm not dumb.

>> No.19716840

>>19716836
This board isn't one person

>> No.19716844

>>19716840
I'm not dumb though.

>> No.19716857

>>19716844
ok, most people are dumb and ignorant*
Better?

>> No.19716909

>>19716857
No.

>> No.19716925

>>19716421
>twitter account banned
>author site taken by domain squatter
>second apocalypse site not updated in three years
>nearing two years with no new posts on three pound brain
>last public appearance was a random YouTube live stream
>literally no news on anything
Be honest, is he dead?

>> No.19716940

Recommend non-low IQ books

>> No.19716945

>>19716940
"The Darkness That Comes Before" by Bakker

>> No.19716955

Is Cuckoldry Based and Red-pilled or is it Pozzed?

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>>19716955
Depends
>the cucker
non-pozzed and bakkerchad
>the cucked
pozzed and sandersoi

>> No.19716966

>>19716940
The Book of the New Sun

>> No.19716976

>>19716909
Ok

>> No.19717016

>>19716961
the only good answer. we can end this thread now, right?

>> No.19717142

How did the goblin king recognize glamdring if it had been sitting in a cave for 6000 years?

>> No.19717206
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I'M GOING INSANNNEEEE FLAY THE DEAD CAST THEIR BONES TO THE FIRE. RECEDE TO THE PITS OF HELL FOR EARTH IS A CAGE FOR THE ACCURSED.

Only one man, my oldest student, now my sworn enemy knows my plan
BAKKER
BAKKER
BAKKER
BAKKER

PLAGUE!
ARISE! The thread must perish at our hands before we perish

plague of bakker flayed devour them.
tear the flesh from the heathen bones.
turn their thread to ash.
cast their bones to the fire.

you are spritzy yet seasonal cattle. i'm hungry for the irredemable.

FLAY THE DEAD CAST THEIR BONES TO THE FIRE. RECEDE TO THE PITS OF HELL LEST EARTH BECOMES YOUR CAGE.

GO FORTH MY HORSEMEN! JUDGEMENT DAY IS AT HAND!
DEATH!, PLAGUE!, WAR!, BEAST!

DEATH SHALL TEAR THE FLESH FROM THE HEATHEN BONES!!!
PLAGUE SHALL DEVOUR THEM WITH PESTILENCE!!!
WAR SHALL CAST THEIR CORPSES TO THE FIRE!!!!
BEAST SHALL TURN THEIR THREADS TO ASH!!!!!!

>> No.19717246

Bakkerchads, we won.

>> No.19717262

>>19716723
Kek, now that you put it that way.... Erikson is a hack

>> No.19717273

Black Company is a way better read than Malazan anyway, fight me

>> No.19717298

>>19717273
black company

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Bakker cock penetrates with might
Bakker is the king ruling supreme
Bakker is the one you can't fight
Bakker makes pussy quiver and cream

>> No.19717313

>>19717273
No, not really. I don't care.

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Anthropologist of an advanced human race is stationed to watch but not interfere on a no-tech human planet. Shit happen and he interferes as a wizard using his knowledge and technology. Not a bad read, 6/10.

>> No.19717358

>>19717321
Are there faggots, niggers and trannys?

>> No.19717401

>>19717313
>Responded to tell me he doesn't care
Ok anon I'm here for you

>> No.19717404

>>19717401
Not my problem.

>> No.19717511

>>19717321
How many bugs got cucked? Also is there spiders?

>> No.19717522

>>19717321
is it non-sjw, non-poc and no non-troon?

>> No.19717527

>>19717522
>no non-troon?
I meant no troon, I don't want someone to get the wrong idea

>> No.19717544

>>19717321
Is the wizard an owner of a curved staff or a straight staff? if you catch my drift...

>> No.19717573

>>19717273
I feel like Black Company was pretty good before they went South after that I felt like the quality did decline.

>> No.19717575

>>19717573
black company

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was never taught how to pay taxes or get a job
but i was taught about the hollow twin towers
the hollow, the hollow earth, the black dick, the black dick to itch.
You have left, you have left, never, never to return.
You have left, never, never to return.
NO ONE EVER TAUGHT ME ABOUT TAXES BUT I KNOW HITLER LIVES SOMEWHERE ON THE MOON AND
Somewhere, there is cumming, somewhere.
And you shall find it, you will find it.
And I, will wait, forgotten, forgetten, a hundred times. Forgotten.
I WASN'T TAUGHT HOW TO READ TAXES OR GET A JOB BUT I LEARNT HOW TO TAKE A HAMMERHEAD TO THE HAEMARRHOIDS
head of the hammer to the bubblewrap
smell the pink bubblewrap
smell the pink bubblewrap

pink river flowing to the path
my ass will never be explored
i'm just holding a chicken wrap
because
NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT TAXES OR GETTIN A JOB

>> No.19717741

We should update the G.R.I. Label to include Cuckold themes.

>> No.19717746

Is the Chart Poster still alive? If so, can you post the latest version of the Chart, please?

>> No.19717778

>>19717321
ithe based sffg reviewer said it's really good so I will read it. thanks for the tip

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>>19717741
Need new books that are approved.

It's been years since the GRI chat was updated.

>> No.19717925

>>19717321
>Tchaikovsky wows with this inventive and empathetic story of courage, science, and magic.
>Though Lynesse is the mere Fourth Daughter
Already the mc is the fucking strong woman lel. What a fucking garbage.

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>>19716512
Cnauir isn't really as classical cuck since he wants to fuck men. It's more just Kellhus doing it to mog him.

>>19716559
I did sort of like that element. Akka is bitter as fuck like a real jilted lover. It also made Kellhus's insectoidness stand out when they finally speak once again and he immediately starts fucking with his mind again.

>>19717573
Agreed. Even the end of the North arc got less good. The magical blimp monsters and talking rocks seemed out of place, and tonally it got too into your normal "scrappy good guys beat big bad evil" fantasy mold. Shadows Linger was even better than the first though.

>>19716550
Yeah, this is definitely a problem for the series. I don't mind grim dark. I love Beserk. I love the Consult parts of the book. But all the characters being hilariously shitty is a problem. I suppose this was supposed to show they are ruled by passions and instinct, the "darkness that comes before," or some shit? But it doesn't work because it makes them flatter. Even in Beserk, which is a cartoon, the grim dark characters get some depth. For example, Farnese has a bunch going on, despite the medium lending itself to caricature, while Serwe is defined by sex alone.

Proyas shines simply for being relatable. And then Cnauir gets less depth as the story goes on. It's a weak point for sure.

>> No.19718123

>>19716559
I fucking hate when writers move the goalposts of a certain character's motivation just to fit the plot.

Sanderson is a prime example of this.

>> No.19718136

>>19718123
Yea how are you going to reach the nascent soul realm or further if you forget your original intent

>> No.19718149

>>19718123
Sanderson only cares about the Master Outline of his books, which he planed before even starting any of his series. The problem with this is that books start strong, but end on a shit note more often than not. Robert Jordan is also guilty of this. There is literally zero agency to any of their characters, which is why politics and world events become so convenient and predictable.

>> No.19718196

>>19717575
Based retard

>> No.19718302

>>19717321
>Strong Women
POZZ

>> No.19718311

cuckoldry in books is based, if you don't agree get cucked

>> No.19718330

>>19717778
the reviewer you responded to is a much better reviewer because he got many more replies. engagement is what matters. nothing else. he should have summed it up in a single sentence though.

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>>19716413
Any well known or some niche good fantasy books from Japan?
Considering they made Berserk, Claymore, Dark Souls, are obsessed with magical girls and seem to like Wolfe, Tolkien and stuff like Astrid Lindgren and wizard of earth-sea.

>> No.19718416

>>19718396
Claymore is shit.

>> No.19718429

>>19718416
It's nothing special. Just added things from the top of my head. Should have said Ghibli movies instead.

>> No.19718442

>>19718429
>Ghibli
pozzed

>> No.19718452

>>19718396
Have japanese actually produced any fantasy literature? Or is it just drawings?

>> No.19718467

Lord of the Rings is the only fantasy series I like
Everything else feels too cheap, a Song of Ice and Fire doesn't but the books disgust me on a fundamental level so I hate them

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Been looking for a good series with a wizard protag, was thinking of pic related but it sounds like trash. Anyone read it?

>> No.19718511

>>19718485
It sounds like that because it is. That's how self-published books are.

>> No.19718541

I don't know about you guys but I think science fiction and fantasy deserve a general, each one separate

>> No.19718548

>>19718511
The top 5% of self-pub is literally better than tradpub now. Oh how I wish I were exaggerating. That is how bad tradpub has gotten.

>> No.19718566

>>19718485
Book started okay, turned shit. Author didn't follow through on anything in the sequels that made people pick up the fucking second book in the first place.

>> No.19718578

>>19718511
>unironically shitting on self-published
m8, have you seen what they want from new writers now? I don't even think they would take a 25 year old Ursula le Guin at this point. If you're a white guy you literally have to cut your own dick off.

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>>19718442
No.

>> No.19718604

>>19718485
It is not bad series but it suffers from progressiveness.

>> No.19718848

>>19718511
Now THIS is a boot-licker.

>> No.19718870

>>19718416
Is this true? I was looking for something like Beserk after I finish it and I heard it was good.

Or Nausicaa, because those are fucking great

>> No.19718873

What are some good books if I like DS9? Doesn't necessarily need to be scifi, I just like the themes (political, intelligence/intrigue, cross-cultural problems and dilemmas, interpersonal relationships, etc), complex characters (Gul Dukat, Elim Garak, Benjamin Sisko, Kira Nerys, Quark, Odo, etc) and character relationships (Odo/Quark, Garak/Bashir, Sisko/Dax, Dukat/Kira, etc), and the mix of themes (lightly dark, serious, comedy, adventure, intrigue, etc).

>> No.19718898

Asked last thread but what are your favorite techno thrillers? I've read and enjoyed Termination Shock and Diamond Age from Neal Stephenson, I liked a couple things from Michael Crichton (but his cookie cutter Chads and Stacies are bland), someone recommended some Tom Clancy, I enjoyed The Water Knife by Paolo Bacigalupi . What else is worth a look?

>> No.19718916

>>19718396
Guin Saga (sword & sorcery, 1979) and Record of Lodoss War (epic D&D campaign, 1988) influenced everything that came after.

>> No.19718925

>>19718578
All the top sci-fi and fantasy for sales in book and audio are written by white dudes.

I don't even get how this meme started except for libs giving meaningless awards to minorities, which is not the same thing.

Probably stems from people bitching about rejection, which might be more in the ballpark of mediocre white dudes with a B average and no extras except for binge drinking in some frat house, with a degree from some pleb tier university complaining about how no one will just gift them a job. Must be affirmative action. Must be oppression. Couldn't be that just having a pulse and then going off to work just 40 hours a week, relaxing knowing promotions just come with time, and getting to own a house was only a thing for his Boomer dad and never will be a thing again. Periods of equality like that last a generation tops and require shit like the Depression and WWII to kick off. Otherwise it's the grind and you swim on your own or sink.

>> No.19718932

>>19718870
calling it shit isn't exactly right, It's digestible, but if you're looking for fantasy like Berserk or Nausicaa there's only other Miyazaki movies as I'm aware of. Too bad Kentaro died before getting to work more on Duranki, hope he had a lot of story for his assistants, but there are like 7 chapters of that.
Check out Vagabond though. Think I remember it having a slow start but it gets very good.

>> No.19719086

>>19718925
>major publisher in the other thread shown posting "whites need not apply" on her submission site
>"Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps my dude! 60 year old established white authors are doing great!"

Sure some use "muh diversity" as a cope, but you can't paper over the busted system with your 'grindset'

>> No.19719182

I'm kind of convinced at this point that LotR is only considered god-tier fantasy because of
1. the world-building in the Silmarillion
2. they're too afraid to say the Hobbit is the better of the two
3. they're told they have to think it's the best

>> No.19719183

>>19719182
No one who actually reads fantasy enjoys the Lord of the Rings.

>> No.19719190

Lord of the Rings is kino

>> No.19719207

>>19719190
>>>/tv/

>> No.19719239

>>19718873
One of The Culture novels that has an ensemble cast of characters, I guess.

>> No.19719281

>>19719182
It's always number 3. I don't think I've ever been able to probe someone IRL for details on the books, why they liked something, what they remember etc. They always need to Google something

>> No.19719285

>>19719182
name 3 works better than Tolkien.
the hobbits are chill and in ignorance, venturing out into a magic-dying world with the goal to make its decline better as they manage an object that makes you do evil and degrades you, later on dealing with them after war. The prose is beautiful, mythological and has themes that stand on their own without specific author-implied allegories, in a world of maps, languages, creatures, races and mythology. It's timeless and one of the most important starting points for the genre.
You can enjoy Sanderson more or whatever all you want but I just can't see how anyone would consider Tolkien not to be part of the top-rank in an actual ranking.

>> No.19719298

>>19718925
>>19718925
>All the top sci-fi and fantasy for sales in book and audio are written by white dudes.
Of all time maybe, but not in the last decade.
>Probably stems from people bitching about rejection, which might be more in the ballpark of mediocre white dudes with a B average and no extras except for binge drinking in some frat house, with a degree from some pleb tier university complaining about how no one will just gift them a job. Must be affirmative action. Must be oppression. Couldn't be that just having a pulse and then going off to work just 40 hours a week, relaxing knowing promotions just come with time, and getting to own a house was only a thing for his Boomer dad and never will be a thing again. Periods of equality like that last a generation tops and require shit like the Depression and WWII to kick off. Otherwise it's the grind and you swim on your own or sink.
So your argument here is that someone who supports themselves via self-publishing has less 'grind' than someone with the support of a publisher?

>> No.19719322

Sex with orc women

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>>19718396
The Twelve Kingdoms. It has an anime adaptation as well.

>> No.19719328

>>19718467
Based Tolkien enjoyer and GRRM hater.

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BOTNS lads, I have a question. I've re-read Book of the New Sun twice now, just getting ready for a third re-read and to start reading some supplementary material, but what I really want to know is: What the fuck is The House Absolute? I know the Citadel has been worthless since the Ascians developed air-superiority, and that the House Absolute is underground somewhere, but what the fuck is it actually other than a giant palace in the ground? Other than being underground, I have no fucking clue about the House Absolute.

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Any suggestions for books that capture the same feel as picrelated? I read Poul Andersons Harvest of Stars quadrilogy which was pretty much spot on and I'm having trouble finding more of the same.

>> No.19719374

ngl when I think about hype moments in regards to LOTR it's mostly Nightfall in Middle-Earth

>> No.19719385

>>19719298
>not in the last decade
uuh? So Andy Weir, Brandon Sanderson and GRRM?

>> No.19719391

>>19719285
You're saying how the world is great, which it is, but that doesn't make any book set in it great.

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>>19719385
GRRM hasn't published a book in the last decade

>> No.19719409

>>19719394
Fire and blood was 2018, and A Dance with Dragons was 2011. I expected we had the time frame of 2010-2019. Not like it matters.

>> No.19719415

Holy shit Malazan is throwing a lot of shit at you from the get-go. Should I be taking notes when reading this?

>> No.19719420

>>19719391
calling something a timeless fleshed out story with nice prose and originality isn't praising a book? How does one praise a book?

>> No.19719424

>>19719415
Don't be an autist and enjoy the ride. Do you hate fun?

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>> No.19719435

>>19719424
You're right, I should stop trying to be an autist

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>>19719374
>DON'T FEAR THE EYES OF THE DARRRRRRRRK LORD
>MORGOTH I CRIED!!
>ALL HOPE IS GONE
>BUT I SWEAR REVENGE
>HEAR MYYYYYYYYY OATH
>I WILL PART IN YOUR DAMNED FATE

I unironically read LotR to better understand both the lyrics to Nightfall in Middle-Earth and to all of the Summoning albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZ7f0Yy-4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUuKHJr0CEM

>> No.19719449

>>19719415
I like skimming over a wikis, getting summaries of chapters, reading the main character names again, and so on to quickly hammer it in.

>> No.19719451

>>19719433
checked. Anathem should be higher up imo, maybe B or A, and definitely at 4 or 5. Blindsight should be on the list at A 4.

>> No.19719453

>>19719449
My issue with Wikis is the amount of unwanted spoiler you find. I recommend using something published by amazon with X-ray so that you can see who and what is what.

>> No.19719454

>>19719433
come on, mistborn deserves to be with the way of kings and red rising anon.

>> No.19719456

>>19719454
Lol. You're like the way of kings is that high.

>> No.19719461

>>19716723
erikson is unironically shit. really need to look no further than the tough women soldier characters but rake is also a good examply. Honestly all of his characters are terrible the only thing i liked about his books was the walrus people genocide

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>> No.19719471

>>19719461
My big issue with Eriskon was his insistence on having 2 separate narratives for us to follow and that retarded flashback book in the middle. I don't care how interesting the universe is. You won't fool me twice.

>> No.19719475

>>19719462
Sanderchads rise. We simply have a more etiquette and elite taste.

>> No.19719488

>>19719475
Nah you guys just have so many more books to read you aint got the time to be here polling.

>> No.19719489

>>19719461
I don't seem to have a problem with it, accidentally learning 3 lines about some god or a new magic systems or that a characters dad is dead or whatever doesn't ruin much for me. Hell knowing some spoiler stuff about Kellhus I've gotten from this general without having read the first prince of nothing book doesn't bother me much either and I'll still read it some time. That might make me a minority though.

>> No.19719493

>>19719471
yeah the constant perspective shifts are just the icing on the cake of bad writing. I just remembered his race of super smart dinosaurs that have swords for arms lmao. I hope im misremembering that. If the structure of his books wasnt so retarded i think his worldbuilding would mostly make up for his poor writing, i dont know why he refuses to just tell a linear story.

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>>19719493
>I just remembered his race of super smart dinosaurs that have swords for arms lmao. I hope im misremembering that.
You're not.

>> No.19719520

>>19719373

Maybe check out CJ Cherryh

>> No.19719535

It's weird to compare Malazan to Lodoss War because they both began as RPG sessions. Does anyone know if Malazan was originally D&D or what?

>> No.19719592

>>19719433
criminally bad taste

>> No.19719599

>>19719592
Well, /sffg/ collectively made it and we came to a pretty close consensus by the end of it. You can fuck off now, tourist.

>> No.19719622

>>19719433
Oh dang I remember offering suggestions to an early version of this. Hands down the best one of these I've seen

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19719646

Is there a Western fantasy version of progression or power fantasy?

Like following a protagonist/group of protagonists that eventually get so powerful they're marching through cosmic dimensions and battling outer demons?

>> No.19719657

>>19719520
There doesn't seem to be much in the way of hard sci fi in her works, but I havent finished looking yet, do you have a particular book in mind?

>> No.19719714

>>19716945
Silly ESL poster, "non-low" means NOT low! Keep trying though :)

>> No.19719729

>>19719646
no

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>>19718442
>NOOOOO THE FRIENDLY JAPANESE MAN IS CREATING FEMININE, NON-LESBIAN ROLE MODELS FOR GIRLS
ooooooh noooooo the horrorrrr

>> No.19719781

>>19719433
>Name of the Wind is a mid-challenge read
m8 are you maybe just retarded? If it had less hookers it'd be a children's book

>> No.19719824

>>19719646
There are a lot of series with power creep that basically end up being Asian style progression fantasies. Lots of Glen Cook stuff is like this. Most obviously Darkwar and Black Company.

>> No.19719827

I'm reading Shannara right now. The prose is bad by modern standards but its super comfy and everybody is a strong, honorable man with a decent moral compass except maybe Allanon who the narrator keeps hinting is hiding something.

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>ties with Dune for the Hugo in your path
how will you respond?

>> No.19719851

Do we have a chart for Chinese and Korean web novels?

>> No.19719854

>>19716466
>In this novel: the author's poorly disguised fetish

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and with that, I have finished God Emperor of Dune

I think it's the best in the series so far. Leto II was a great character, very damaged and alone and powerful and sad. The Golden Path certainly makes more sense now.. to make sure humanity doesn't fall into prophetic traps. It will be interesting to see how the descendants of Siona and Duncan play out versus what I assume will be the Bene Gesserit and the Spacing Guild (who want / have prophetic visions). as myself and another anon asked in a previous thread.. do I move onto Heretics.. do I stop for good.. or do I take a break? Up next for me is to finish Frank's Dune; or some non-fiction on the philosophy of science; or a LotR reread; or some Neal Stephenson

>> No.19719901

>>19719433
What clown put Dying Inside in D

>> No.19719960

Finnished botns, what is other sci-fi on this level?

>> No.19719965

>>19719960
None. You've can read Long and Short Sun though

>> No.19719968

>>19719856
I recently finished God Emperor, maybe a month ago. Now I'm halfway through Chapterhouse. Looking back at God-Emperor, I wish it had covered a larger time frame. Like maybe 3 books, one set in each of his millennia that he ruled during.

>> No.19719978

>>19719856
>or some non-fiction on the philosophy of science
Just read _Science and Civilisation in China_. It'll be shorter than reading sci-fi and fantasy, and you'll get more out of it.

>> No.19720006

>>19719968
How did you like Heretics? How are you liking Chapterhouse?

>> No.19720022

>>19719960

The Culture series is a good palette cleanser. If you like BOTNS I think "Inversions" would be the best book for you out of The Culture series. Not nearly as complex, but the solving-a-puzzle-as-you-read is there.

But no, once you hit Gene Wolfe's BOTNS, there's nothing on a similar level to that.

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>>19720006
I had to brute-forced Heretics. If I described to you what happens in the book, you'd be like "oh fuck that's cool". But the moment to moment flow is painstaking. But if you made it through God Emperor then you'll be fine.
Chapterhouse reads much more smoothly. Although reading it is kind of depressing, because I know everything that happens here will never be resolved.
Also there's a sex scene, and some sexual imagery, used in Heretics. It's fucking atrocious. You've literally got honored mother's going "hey my girl have you mastered VAGINAL PULSING YET THAT'S A BIG DEAL YA' KNOW"

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>>19719849
zelazny is so mediocre i truly i dont understand why hes praised. I guess compared to sanderson hes a genius but is that really the standard genre fiction goes by? (it is)

>> No.19720049

>>19719364
It's the autarch's palace but also more. It has a myriad of secret passages, strange rooms, and non-euclidian architecture. The books also hint that the house absolute is linked to the citadel, corridors of time, and possibly even the ship of tzadkiel

Father Inire is the architect of the house absolute, and the whole idea of his mirrors and travel factor in heavily. He's the only one who knows the extent of the actual house

>> No.19720113

>>19720049

So it's like the Botanical Gardens but even larger, and attached to even more places- beyond Urth and within Urth?

>> No.19720125

https://notule.bandcamp.com/album/amongst-the-averns-2
BOTNS album, has anyone heard it before?

>> No.19720152

>>19720125
This sounds more like the soundtrack to a lo-fi indie game

>> No.19720193

>>19720033
I've probably read and not enjoyed more Zelazney than any other author. There's stuff he does that clearly takes skill and it feels like he should be able to write great books, but never delivers. Lord of Light was decent. That's about it.
>I guess compared to sanderson hes a genius
It's kinda easy to shit on old brando-sando, but his earlier works are formidable. It's just he's been (badly) rehashing them longer than he was a serious writer at this point.

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>>19716940

>> No.19720224

>>19720033
Hated Lord of Light and everything else I've read by him, but This Immortal is very good.

>> No.19720294

>>19719714
>t. machine translated chinkshit fan

>> No.19720301

>>19719960
Blindsight/echopraxia, Hyperion Cantos, The Second Apocalypse

>> No.19720342

>>19719298
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Epic-Fantasy/zgbs/books/16197

It's white guys until 15 then white guys again.

>> No.19720358

>>19720342
>only hackman jordan and polack witchershit in the top ranks
sad...

>> No.19720368

>>19716723
>Itkovian = Trull Sengar
>Bugg/Tehol
>Honorable mention: Beak

>> No.19720385

>>19719373
pretty sure there's a map for revelation space's main systems on reynolds' website

>> No.19720437

>>19719960
Name of the Rose (historical fiction but medieval), Helmet of Horror, Kaka on the Shore, Hyperion, The Darkness That Comes Before, are all very good. I would rank them in about hat order. First three I'd say are a step above Wolfe, other two are hard to compare because, while being more strict genre fiction, are way more plot focused than BOTNS.

Name of the Rose might be less interesting if you're not into medieval history/philosophy. Helmet of Horror is super quick; the guy has other good books though.

>> No.19720451

>>19720437
Realized that was fantasy and sci-fi or adjacent. Helmet of Horror is more modern though, and Hyperion in sci-fi.

Vurt is good too. Psychedelic sci-fi, interesting prose like Shadow of the Torturer. A Clockwork Orange fits that too. Or Dune if you haven't read it.

>> No.19720496

>>19720385
This author does look very promising, thanks!

>> No.19720540

>>19720342
>back up to sci-fi and fantasy
>60% female
Your powers of goalpost moving and misrepresentation are truly phenomenal.

>> No.19720550

>>19720540
>>19720342
self-pub chads we keep winning

>> No.19720605

1. The LotR movies
2. The Hobbit book
3. The Hobbit cartoon
4. The LotR cartoon
5. The Hobbit movies
6. The LotR books

>> No.19720614

>>19720605
is this your listing of best to worst?
If so number six should be number one and everything else moved down one place.

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>>19720614
>is this your listing of best to worst?

>> No.19720645

>>19720622
>If so number six should be number one and everything else moved down one place.
How you can rate the books from which all else was derived, as the worst of it all, is beyond me.

>> No.19720655

>>19720645
Because it's nothing more than shitpost list you dumbfuck.

>> No.19720662

>>19720645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgMnCLHQuqc

>> No.19720711

>>19719433
>old good new bad

>> No.19720748

>>19720711
Yes, and?

>> No.19720814

OH MY SEVEN WARRENS

>> No.19720875

>>19720711
Not quite.

Read more.

>> No.19720900

>>19720662
Is this supposed to show its bad?

>> No.19720953

>>19719433
> dying earth - b
> locke lamorra - a
why though?

>> No.19720962

>>19720953
Just to piss you off.

>> No.19720981

>>19720962
well then, congratulations on a job well done. But, dying earth does not belong in the same category as the dumpster fire, dragonbone chair

>> No.19721066

>>19720962
based

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>>19720437
>kaka on the shore

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>Lift interlude chapter
>Suddenly reading Borderlands 4 script
what the fuck is sanderson's problem

>> No.19721288

>>19721271
Enjoy, because that's the best shonen jump anime he ever wrote. It's all downhill from there.

>> No.19721323

Been reading Between Two Fires, surprised I didn't catch this when it came out. I don't reccomend much but so far this ain't bad.

>> No.19721324

>>19721271
>what the fuck is Sanderson's problem?

Anon I...

>> No.19721333

I'd rather read Royal Road than Sanderson

>> No.19721383

I want to buy the folio lord of the ring edition

>> No.19721450

>>19719415
Nah. Malazan is mostly about scene and theme. Actually grasping the bigger picture is not important, or Erikson would be clearer about it. That said, halfway through each book I went to the wiki and read the summary up to the point I was at, just to make sure I had the storylines straight.

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How do you justify reading fantasy? I always get a weird sense of guilt that I should be reading something of value but instead turn to swords and sorcery

>> No.19721565

>>19721543
fantasy is just as important as any other crap. the only literature above the rest is the greeks, everything else is entertainment. so read what you want and stop thinking that some philosophy text is important

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>censored
:(

>> No.19721628

Anyone know of any good fantasy or sci-fi books that focus on or deal with mafias/mobs/yakuza-like organizations?

>> No.19721658

>>19721577
Censored?

>> No.19721668

>>19721543
I waste the rest of my time so thoroughly that reading anything feels productive

>> No.19721671

>>19721577
How is it censored? But no spoilers pls.

>> No.19721684

>>19716413
I started reading The Dragonbone Chair and it's maximally comfy so far.

>> No.19721686

>>19721658
>>19721671
The gamer word has been cut.

>> No.19721688

>>19721686
niggardly?

>> No.19721697

>>19721688
Cully, a hawk, is supposed to say
>damned niggers. Damned administration. Damned politicians. Damned bolsheviks. Is this a damned dagger that is ee before me, the handle toward my hand. Damned spot. Now, Cully, hast thou but one brief hour to live, and then thou must be damned perpetually
But in the version I'm reading it skips the damned niggers.

>> No.19721719

>>19721658
>>19721671
>>19721686
>>19721697
Is that censored only in that edition or also in others?

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What is the consensus?

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Holy fuck this is kino

>> No.19721975

>>19719433
I really don't think The Wizard Knight is as easy to read as you seem to think. Dune for example is extremely simple, same with Wheel of Time, yet you put those in 3, while you put WK in 2. Good job for putting BotNS in S tier, I guess.

>> No.19721978

>>19721971
No, not really.

>> No.19721988

>>19719960
>>19719965
>>19720022
I find myself reading passages of BotNS

>> No.19721999

>>19721978
I'm sorry you have shit tastes

>> No.19722029

>>19719433
This reminds me, I really have to read Vurt again one ofthese days.
Locke Lamora was shit, btw.

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>Holy fuck this is kino

>> No.19722038

>>19721971
i couldn't get through the first chapter. the protagonist immediately going back to fussing over dresses was like a slap of clarity

>> No.19722042

>>19718541
Why not
You start

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Just finished the 3body problem and started the dark forest .

Why did the author retcon that the aliens weren’t able to and had no concept of lying or deceiving adversaries? The whole premise of the sophon plan from the first book was to deceive Earth’s scientists, so their civilisation must have developed the concept of deception . The aliens didn’t plan to use the sophons to say “we have contaminated all results your experiments will ever produce so you will never find out deeper understanding of science “ on the retinas of every scientist on earth. No, instead they deliberately gave them false information about their results to make them think that the laws of physics were themselves erratic and a kind of turkey problem , that all consistency in nature observed thus far was a coincidence, as well as showing scientists spooky countdowns on their retinas . Intentionally giving people false information in order to alter their behaviour is the definition of lying and deception . So why contradict the whole plot of the 3 body problem at the beginning of the dark forest?

Also, it’s just bad writing anyway. Lying would almost certainly evolve in any intelligent social creature just because it is incentivised so strongly by differing interests . Even if a species developed brains that broadcast all their thoughts , the first thing they’d do is think of ways to send information further than the range of their brain waves . It’s just like if there was a human who had a problem where he automatically shouted every thought that came into his head , if he wanted to achieve something but deduced he would be unable to achieve it because others would know his intentions after he shouted them, he’d just use problem solving intelligence to work out that he has to go a a far distance and communicate by text message, or surround his head with a sound-proof helmet. There’s no believable reason that the intelligent alien civilisation would not develop these workarounds.

I’m really disappointed that the author would include such an inconsistent and implausible retcon. It really reduces my enthusiasm for reading the rest of the book.
Before my enthusiasm was maybe 8/10 now it’s only 6/10.

>> No.19722115

>>19722091
In fact the retcon inconsistency is even more brazen.

The very first trusokaris flashback , the trisolarans use the word “lure” . So what the fuck is this “durr hurr their species has never conceived of the concept of intentionally not telling the truth , they’re scared of the power of humans who can lie durrrr” how the fuck do you study advanced mathematics and thus game theory and never conceive of the possibility of lying ?
Chinkchink Liu really shit the bed

>> No.19722131

>>19721628
The Green Bone Saga

>> No.19722136

>>19717321
It's Hard To Be A God: Zoomer Edition. This Time With Ayyyyliens!

>> No.19722143

>>19718870
Claymore delivers one thing only and that is a particular vibe of melancholy as beautiful swordswomen fight against their own body horrors. If that's what you want you're gonna love it, but if you want literally anything else from it (like good story/characters/battles etc) you're gonna be disappointed.

>> No.19722144

>>19717321
>Hard to Be a God: Zoomer Edition

>> No.19722156

>>19721971
Based book enjoyer. Not many of those on this board.

>> No.19722165

>>19719657
It's a black woman pushed by affirmative action. If this doesn't tell you anon is trolling you then nothing will.

>> No.19722175

>>19721971
Is this the one where they figure out you can't trust anything that isn't written in steel?

>> No.19722188

>>19719646
Raymond Feist has quite a bit of progression for Pug

>> No.19722197

>>19717321N
No interfere but he do. Thumb Up.
Fixed review. Ratings unneeded.

>> No.19722202

>>19717321
Is this the most replied to, and therefore best, review in /sffg/ history? It may well be.

>> No.19722204

>>19719824
black company

>> No.19722208

>>19719433
thank you, I have never read anything in my life

>> No.19722226

>>19722208
Vote here now on the nature of this post!
https://www.strawpoll.me/45921668

>> No.19722251

>>19722226
Kys

>>19722222

>> No.19722263

>Sir Grummore Grummursum, who was staying the night because he had been benighted out questin’ after a specially long run, said that when he was their age he was swished every mornin’ because he would go hawkin’ instead of learnin’. He attributed to this weakness the fact that he could never get beyond the Future Simple of Utor. It was a third of the way down the left—hand leaf, he said. He thought it was leaf ninety—seven. He passed the port.
What's this leaf bullshit? I'm getting filtered.

>> No.19722287

>>19721271
>Suddenly reading Borderlands 4 script
Was that supposed to drive me away from reading it? Because now I'm interested

>> No.19722309

>>19722175
I think that's the climax(?) of the book, yes, them realising they've been manipulated for the whole time by Ruin

>> No.19722320

>>19722226
what is that

>> No.19722331

>>19722309
That was pretty neat.

>> No.19722342

>>19722331
It was. Not as "epic" as the the first book's conclusion (If Epic even is the correct word to describe), but pretty well set up. The rest of the book was somewhat meh, but considering it was leading up to this conclusion I think it's undesrstandable

>> No.19722351

>>19722342
I think the playing around with prophecies and manipulating people's faith through that was the best part of Mistborn, not the "magic system" everyone always harps on about.

>> No.19722370

>>19722351
I'm a fucking gaming retard so my favorite part while reading was the magic system, but I agree that afterwards what stuck with me most was the whole manipulating of truth part.
Ok, stuck with me is a stretch, but it's the part that I remember most fondly

>> No.19722378

>>19722342
>the book was bad but since the ending was good it doesn’t matter
I hate Sandersoys so much

>> No.19722395

>>19722378
Nah, I admit the book was shit. It definitely could have been better in several aspects. I think I expressed myself badly, I meant to say that the book is less focused than the first one, and that's because not even the characters really know what they're working up towards in the beginning. But that does ntot excuse it's other failings.
> I hate Sandersoys so much
Haven't read anything else from Sanderson, so lol, lmao

>> No.19722429

just finished starfish and it really picked up at around the 60% mark, do the next 2 books keep that momentum going?

>> No.19722434

Of all things, how is it reading has become infested with retarded SJWs Imagine cracking open a book with the expectation it fits in with your narrow worldview and politics. It's gotten to the point where I automatically disregard anything written/published after 2010 at the very latest, and that's being generous(I might eventually give Wolfe's later novels a shot but I'm still working on his earlier writing)

>> No.19722445

>>19721971
Funny I just finished part 2 as well. Now into the Hero of Ages, I hope it's good.

>> No.19722451

So, the denver shooter schizo(Roman McClay) apparently wrote a sci-fi trilogy. Is it trash?

>> No.19722465

>>19722451
probably but knowing this board people are now gonna flock to it like the scifi version of bakker

>> No.19722479

>>19722263
Anyone understands this?

>> No.19722481

Only on the second his book, but I can't help but wonder how many time smug has Sanderson wrote "[character] smiled" in his writing career?

>> No.19722503

>>19722451
I looked up the name because I didn't realize he had an author pseudonym. The twatter comments are all troons and foids seething and insulting him. These people have a terminal case of nofuns

Contrast with the guy who got shot in Philly from Temple, the comments are all roasting him. Who woulda thought that the right wing would become the side that enjoys fun and the leftists would become moral wokescolds who can't enjoy anything

>> No.19722508

>>19722451
>>19722503

twitter.com/roman_mcclay/status/1253333446266519556
>cope
>seethe
>dilate
>rinse
>repeat

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>>19722508
>>19722503
>>19722465
>>19722451
Has anyone read it? Is it any good?

>> No.19722540

>>19719183
Absolutely grotesque brainlet

>> No.19722553

>>19722525
>"The gang forms a shooter manifesto reading group"

>> No.19722568

>>19722525
>Has anyone read it? Is it any good?
I have seen some rightoids on twitter call it a big piece of shit. Legitimately poorly written.

>> No.19722587

>>19722553
>"The gang forms a shooter manifesto reading group"
Elliot Rodgers manifesto was pretty funny, albeit probably not intentionally.

>> No.19722768

>>19722540
He's right, though.

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Stormlight 5 is officially being written
T minus 2 years until the entire fantasy genre is shaken to its core and rearranged from the ground up within that entropy as the first half of the decade in the making series concludes.

>> No.19722799

>>19722793
Book number 4 was horrible, so I won't bother.

>> No.19722815

>>19722793
I haven't even read books 1-4 though

>> No.19722856

>>19722793
I have not read these but don't you think they will suffer from bloat? 10 books each 1200 pages or whatever seems a bit much for any story

>> No.19722870

>>19722793
I don't like mormons so I won't read Sanderson.

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Reading this rn. I'm enjoying it a lot. It has been years since I read a Halo book, but I'm falling in love all over again.

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Just finished Children of Dune. The first half was a slog, but I enjoyed the second half and seeing all the plotlines finally unravel. Can't wait to start on God Emperor. Is it set in the same age or some far away future during the peak or decline or Leto's rule?

>> No.19722992

Garbage

>> No.19723028

>>19721956
havent read it but ward has convinced me wildbow will never write anything good again. Also i can see a negress on the cover which reinforces my conviction. Wont be reading!

>> No.19723099

>>19722910
>Troy Denning
Is he a good writer? I read almost all of the Halo books before this, and I only enjoyed the ones by Eric Nylund and Joe Staten

>> No.19723205

>>19717321
keep writing more please!!!!

>> No.19723234

>>19717321
Nice cover. Anyone got a link to artist's artstation account?

>> No.19723240
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>>19722983
It's like 35000 years in the future after wormboy made is harem of fishspeakers and cucked humanity.
>>19722983

>> No.19723293

>>19723234
https://www.artstation.com/emanshiu

>> No.19723301

>>19717321
Bakker is the one who deserves the attention.
Not this.

>> No.19723313

>>19723301
Does bakker have any spider reverse rape cuckoldry in his books?
No?
Shut the fuck up

>> No.19723321

>>19723240
35000??? Is this set after Leto's death then? In CoD it was repeatedly said Leto would rule for 4000 years.

>> No.19723330

>>19723099

I like it so far. He goes into a lot of detail about the equipment. You may or may not like that. Personally, I see it as a feature and not a bug. All the action so far flows really well and the story seems to be moving at a brisk and energetic pace. It feels like a real adventure.

I'm three chapters in and it feels really intense. While it is a bit early for me to issue a verdict and decisively answer your question, if things keep going the way they are. This will definitely towards the Eric Nylund side of the quality spectrum.

Sorry I couldn't give you a more clear cut answer.

>> No.19723333

>>19723313
All things are possible with Bakker.

>> No.19723366

>>19723313
>The Great Ordeal, chapter 4
Bakker wins again

>> No.19723376

>>19723330
>This will definitely towards the Eric Nylund side of the quality spectrum.
Maybe I'll be cautiously optimistic about this one, though I don't really know if I'll like it just because I don't like 343 has done with the story (let alone the gameplay).

>> No.19723409

>>19722983
Leto II is like 4,000 year old incel as the book opens. He has advanced wizard powered from millenia of no fap, which he uses to great effect. It is mostly his obese larva-monstrocity ass laying on a couch, getting pulled places, and laying down a heavy stream of bants against all opponents. He basically shits on everyone since they aren't 9000 IQ immortal worms, and they keep trying to assassinate him, have been for millenia because he is a genocidal tyrant, but he's invulnerable so their attempts just make him bant even harder. It's every fat incels dream come true (except the having sex part).

>> No.19723445

>>19723313
Not sure if bait, but there is a scene that meets this description in either book 6 or 7, I forget which

>> No.19723449 [DELETED] 

guys rate my fantasy novella that I'm writing

>> No.19723477

>>19723449
2/10, not enough spider rape

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>>19723333
C-checked…

>> No.19723589

>>19716413
genuine question: whats the real difference between sci fi and fantasy? is Star wars sci fi?

>> No.19723608

>>19723589
themes, aesthetics and marketing
in the early days of genre they were barely considered separate

>> No.19723617

>>19723589
spess vs medieval setting is all it comes down to
most “hard” scifi is fantasy anyways since FTL is physically impossible

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>>19722451
I was reading some article on that and then some statistics showed up showing this which confuses me considering all the news and social media movements about violence against blacks and asians happening in America. Am I reading the stats wrong or something lol?

>> No.19723657

>>19722451
what a cringey dude.
>I'm the real alpha male!
>kills some random tattoo people just going about their lives

>> No.19723702

>>19723589
There isn't one. There was a push to rope them both together as Speculative Fiction, but it never got anywhere. Still my preferred term.

Gene Wolfe had some great jags about this. Old interview Anon posted here a while ago https://archive.org/details/genewolfe

>> No.19723749

>>19719433
Couple things:
>Lies of Locke Lamora and Elric should be switched
>L'morte d'Arthur and Once and Future King should be switched
>Witcher should be B-tier (Last Wish only, rest lower)
>Malazan should be B tier
>Name of the Wind should be B tier
Sneed

>> No.19723753

>>19723749
I wasn't asking.

>> No.19723796

>>19717321
Read this and it was alright. 6/10 is what I would say as well.

The most interesting part was the misunderstandings that happened because the wizard was not able to express scientific explanations in the native language of the inhabitants of the planet. Because they lacked the necessary vocabulary everything he said came out sounding myterious and magical. In some sections you get to read both what the wizard intends to say, and how the natives percieve it when it is expressed in their native language. I thought all of that was very well done.

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>>19723753
But I'm telling

>> No.19723817 [DELETED] 

>>19723589
star wars is capeshit

>> No.19723820

>>19719433
>a canticle for leibowitz
>s tier
good

>> No.19723858

>>19723589
One is rooted in science, the other in myth.

>> No.19723860 [DELETED] 

>>19723449
It's set in an isolate society set in a large island. The landscape is shaped by a large volcano to the far north of the society, of which it has been plaguing the island with vicious ash storms for decades, turning the island barren and giving rise to deadly creatures.

Such circumstances led this society to building a number of bastions along the sides of the mountains to the north that separate them from the wilderness, and basically choosing a select amount of boys each year to groom them to be "wardens" of the Bastions for life.


themes that are included are man vs nature (some see the ash creatures as a threat that needs to be eradicated, some as a natural balance of the world) and about cultural identity

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Weekly update from the king of /sffg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kbpjcXsqM&ab_channel=BrandonSanderson
Stormlight 5 bros.

>> No.19723867

>>19723802
holy based

>> No.19723879

Is it even worth trying to write fantasy anymore?

>> No.19723902

>>19723879
Don't know, go ask /wg/ instead of here, you fag.

>> No.19723904

>>19722309
>>19722331
a shame the entire rest of the book sucked even if the YA romance ended with such a cool tweeest

>> No.19723921

>>19723866
Nobody cares.

>> No.19723958

>>19723904
> spoiler
What twist? Nothing stood out to me as particularly twist-y in that part, but maybe i just don't remeber properly

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How did it get so big without even a movie or tv adaption? It has almost a million goodreads ratings which is very big for a book.

>> No.19723971

>>19723961
It’s good, despite /sffg/ bitching.

>> No.19723975

New thread
>>19723974

>> No.19723983

>>19723961
Because as much of a piece of fat lazy ungrateful shit that rothfuss is, he is very good with prose.

>> No.19723986

>>19723971
the first one has some charm. the second one is shit and rothfuss' faggotry is more obvious in the series on rereads.

>> No.19724001

>>19723971
it's a solid fantasy but still I don't know of a single fantasy book with that many reviews and no movie or tv adaption.

>> No.19724009

>>19723958
Vin's emo wanna be BF has Ruin talking to him the entire book

>> No.19724011

>>19724001
Which is the real reason he hasn't released the third book, he's being a sour little bitch until he gets a tv or movie deal like grrm.

>> No.19724017

>>19722793
Book number 3 was horrible, so I won't bother.

>> No.19724020

>>19723866
Good, it will finally die out and no one will remember it.

>> No.19724028

>>19723961
>>19723971
It’s pure meme garbage

>> No.19724034

>>19724011
an animated adaption would work well, I feel like a live action adaption would be weird.
Both a wheel of time and the witcher (while geralt was cool) just felt odd to watch

>> No.19724049

>>19724034
>the witcher (while geralt was cool) just felt odd to watch
because every single other actor except the lead was trying way to fucking hard to come off as an a-lister.
The whole thing just smacked of daytime housewife drama outside of the action scenes.
Tailoring gamer shit for normie audiences is just so fucking retarded, removing everything that makes the thing worthwhile.

>> No.19724058

>>19723975
Wow, didn’t take long for the bakkertrannie to ruin it.

>> No.19724066

>>19723975
Wow, didn't take long for the bakkerchads to make it based.

>> No.19724074

>>19723858
Science is rich cunts and academics defending pet theories in spite of all evidence to the contrary until they die. Read about the Blish principle, luminiferous aether, or caloric fluid and tell me how this isn't mythology.

>> No.19724075

>>19724009
Oh, I didn't remember that. I remembered Vin being influenced by Ruin because her Earring was actually her mother using a form of metal magic on her, but not this.

>> No.19724125

>>19723409
Splendid. This is likely going to be my favorite book in the Dune saga.

>> No.19724196

>>19723409
Leto has the experience of having had all the sex that has ever been had

>> No.19725546

>>19716421
Why was he banned on Twitter?

>> No.19725554

>>19717321
Why the fuck does this have 15 replies I'm so confused. I've never even seen this book mentioned here but I only check through once a week or so

>> No.19725605

>>19718548
Name a few books from that 5 percent then zoomer

>> No.19725650

>>19719433
You know, "out of the silent plant" probably deserves a c rating, but "perelandra" should get an A.