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Was searching for my next book to read. Stumbled upon some of Nietzsche's books on goodreads, and I saw this review for The Will to Power. Well /lit/, what do you think?

"Pernicious nonsense wrapped in twiddle twaddle ramblings while easily being one of the most influential books published in the 20th century. This is the most different of all of Nietzsche’s books while simultaneously epitomizing all of his other writings even to the point of making this book seem unoriginal, something that I’ve never felt with any of his other books. It’s clear that a lot of this book were notes from his other books, and the rest were notes for what would become this book. There is one thing that struck me about this book, overall it was the most unoriginal of all of Nietzsche’s writings because he had for the most part said it elsewhere in his writings but says it here in such a way that it will appeal to the proto-fascist and soon-to-be Nazis who will lap this stuff up.

Ayn Rand loved Nietzsche and was going to use his quotations as chapter headings for ‘The Fountainhead’ until she realized that she misunderstood him; she obviously agreed with his fascism but wasn’t able to understand his philosophy beyond the superficial and I suspect it was this book that originally hooked her. Heidegger wrote an incredibly influential book explaining this book that influenced Derrida, Foucault and Rorty, but, most importantly, Oswald Spengler explicitly cites Nietzsche and Goethe as his major influences for volume I of Decline of the West (by all means read that God awful book if only to understand why one can call Trump a fascist), and lastly in Hitler’s autobiography, Nietzsche with Goethe, Luther and Fredrich the Great were Hitler’s acknowledged greatest influences. BTW, within this book I would say that Goethe was equally praised by Nietzsche as Hitler and Spengler praised him.

Make no mistake. This book is vile. The ‘always conniving Jew uses their knowledge against the ignorance of the other’ or whatever nonsense Nietzsche wrote, hysterical women never can learn or write good literature, the German is superior, Machiavelli was a great thinker, and so on and so on. But, that’s not my real problem with this book since it’s easy to dismiss that has nothing but prejudices.

All of the perniciousness of fascism lurks within this book. All of Donald Trump and what he is trying to do against humanity is within this book. Equality is anathema for them. Humanism is irrelevant and dangerous to them. A great leader, according to Nietzsche is required in order to save us. Spengler made Julius Caesar his great leader while in this book Nietzsche did too, but also Napoleon would do, or until a Hitler comes along or a Trump. Trump has anointed himself as the self-appointed uber-mensch for our time.

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>>19704180
[Continued]

Nietzsche is really saying ‘stop thinking and follow me and let your feelings be your guide’. There is no being, there is only becoming and a great thinker will be needed to rise above the herd. A thinker who is not encumbered by sympathy, empathy or reciprocity and one who is a narcissist with socio-pathological tendencies would be Nietzsche’s ideal, and Hitler would fit the bill as would Trump. Somebody who would always be able to always say that they didn’t fail, but only those around them failed, since the uber-mensch is always right by definition and all failure must come from the herd.

Anyone who is not in synch with what Nietzsche desires is considered weak, corrupt and not worthy of consideration exactly how Trump campaigned in 2016, and all awhile fascist such as Trump projects their faux strength through bluster and flays against imaginary windmills and also real windmills as he babbles incoherently how the TV won’t work on non-windy days if we attach windmills to the power grid. Overall, Nietzsche makes as much sense as Trump does regarding windmills, and both are just as dangerous.

Nietzsche will say that morality is immoral and therefore only the morality that he feels is worthwhile or worthy of consideration since Truth is what an uber-mensch says it is. Of all the statements from fascist beware of the statement such as ‘stop thinking and follow me, and all facts are alternative facts, and no science is true except for the science I say’. All are ravings of a lunatic, but only a bigger lunatic could believe such crap, and Nietzsche does have that kind of crap within this book, and there will always be Fox News viewers who want to be afraid of the imaginary windmills. They only need to be told.

Spengler, Heidegger, Hitler and Ayn Rand loved this book and were influenced by it until they weren’t for a reason. This book gives a ground for the hate they want to practice, and ironically, a justification since in the end Nietzsche believes the only justification that exists is the justification that we make for ourselves, just like Donald Trump does.

Before I had read this book, I wasn’t sure that it was really representative of Nietzsche. But now, I’m fairly certain that it does represent him overall since so much of what was in this book seemed to overlap with what he had written elsewhere. In this book, he’s more explicit on his active nihilism, moralic acid and his contempt for democracy, equality and his always blaming the individual for not understanding that morality is immoral because he says it is, but overall, that only differs from what he previously said by degrees not kind. By putting all of his twiddle twaddle in one place the wanna be fascists were falsely lulled into a non-existence coherence within this guidebook on becoming a good fascist."

Damn. Wtf was Nietzsche problem?

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>>19704183
I looked up some quotes by this Nietzsche guy, and he seems to have been Polish. Why would he be a nazi, and why would he write a guidebook on becoming a good fascist?

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>>19704191
I mean he seems to be really proud of his Polish heritage, so why would he do this?

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>>19704192
WOW. Polish instinct??? Is that like the ultra instinct from dragon ball??? What does it do?

Also was he gay? It says that the source was homo, and the source was himself

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>>19704207
More on this Polish instinct!? Is it the uber charge from TF2???

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>>19704215
*gasp*

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>>19704220
Is that... CHOPIN???

OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY IT'S CHOPIN.

CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.CHOPIN.

He's like le-based ultra instinct Polish nobleman, just like me!

>> No.19704306

>>19704180
>>19704183
>>19704191
>>19704192
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>>19704215
>>19704220
>>19704228
>1 poster
your thread sucks. Kill yourself

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>There is is no being.
>the only justification that exists is that we make for ourselves
>but yes, I believe in Eternal Recurrence™

>> No.19704392

>>19704180
>>19704183
you have made no arguments. why post? this thread is just "i dont like him!!!" but really fucking long. i am trying to live by his standards and even i can think of good arguments against him. (not sharing, fuck you)

>> No.19704434

>>19704392
He's an agitprop fag. Everything somehow comes to "fox news" or "Donald Trump," and of course "Donald Trump is a fascist." Trump isn't even the fucking president anymore. Just banal nonsense.
It's clear that OP is a nonreader. For example,
>Spengler made Julius Caesar his great leader while in this book
Spengler barely mentions Julius Caesar in Decline of the West, compared to any other big name historical figure. Or this,
>[Ayn Rand] obviously agreed with his fascism
It's such nonsense. Fascism means literally nothing in this context. Fascism was an actual political party and philosophy relevant to 20th century Italy, and Rand would be intrinsically opposed to it. Fascism is "any meanie thing that I don't like ;("

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>>19704392
I think you fundamentally misunderstand, I posted the review because I thought it was dumb and funny.

>>19704434
As for what you wrote, I literally did not write that review. See pic related, I simply could not clip more though because it is so long, so I couldn't get the whole thing in one image.

I thought the thread might be taken too seriously, so I was posting the Polish memey stuff, but I see how I might have made it confusing

>> No.19704919

>>19704912
In hindsight I probably should have used a soijak instead of a chad image for the OP and SP

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>>19704180
>she obviously agreed with his fascism

>> No.19705224

funny review, but you made this thread in the most obnoxious way possible

>> No.19705226

>>19704180
Misunderstanding of Nietzsche at an ontological level. Read Bataille, Deleuze and Heidegger and WTP immediately becomes one of Nietzsche's best works.

>> No.19705231

This is the single best bait thread on Nietzsche I've ever seen. I'm honestly impressed.

>> No.19705290

>>19704180
>>19704183
You're a midwit who is never going to make it. You just don't get it. Sorry.

>> No.19705334

I barely read him but does he make any arguments? All I've read from his is he saying he dislike this or that or poetic stuff with
>le deep meaning
I can't care to read

>> No.19705389

>>19704434
>It's clear that OP is a nonreader
>doesn't read OP's first paragraph

>> No.19705425

>>19705334
He spends more time making arguments that go on for pages at a time then writing the bombastic one-liners that you see plastered all over the internet. People (read: retards) just prefer to share the one-liners, no doubt because they lack the attention span to get through the heavier material.

>> No.19705657

>>19704180
>>19704183
Why are you sharing the ramblings of some neurotic American?
Why do Americans insist on giving their idiotic opinions on things they know nothing about?