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[Anonymous No.19703293]

Is there any validity to Buddhism and or Hinduism? I haven't read much into Hinduism but Buddhism to me seems to align perfectly with my worldview and ideas of happiness and fulfillment. It doesn't seem to make any big claims and aligns with the world unlike Christianity and Islam which deals with stuff like the problem of evil and the contradictions of having a single deity who is all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, all good. Also The Bible itself which is just a joke.

[Buddhist No.19703302]

>>19703293
>It doesn't seem to make any big claims and aligns with the world
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
oh wait you're serious
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[Anonymous No.19703313]

>>19703302
What are some the big claims I'm not well read on it

[Anonymous No.19703320]

>>19703293

Has there ever been a more reddit post?

[Anonymous No.19703331]

>>19703320
Redditors hate all religions equally

[Anonymous No.19703334]

>>19703313
karma, rebirth, hell heaven ghost demon and god realms. divine eye. unaided flight. speaking to gods. speaking to death (mara). weather gods.

[Anonymous No.19703350]

>>19703293
>It doesn't seem to make any big claims and aligns with the world
Buddhism modernism is hardly Buddhism per se. It is a product of rationalistic European ideas interacting with clever colonized peoples in Asia, who largely managed to fend off poor quality Christian missionaries from an increasingly faithless Europe, by being more European than the Europeans themselves. Thus Buddhism becomes scientific and modern, something Christianity couldn't do. But in practice it has scriptures and folklore and pantheons and all the rest. See David McMahan's book for the modernism, and the Digha Nikaya for Buddha having debates with God in heaven about how ignorant the latter is. Not very scientific of Buddha to literally argue with God rather than against the idea of God.

[Anonymous No.19703356]

>>19703334
Do they believe it's real or metaphors? If the latter do you know of any religions that don't believe obviously fake supernatural stuff?

[Anonymous No.19703364]

>>19703356
buddhism is founded upon by the veracity of rebirth and karma. if no rebirth then just kill youself to end suffering.

[Anonymous No.19703368]

>>19703334
Fuck that shit
>>19703313
Experimental experiental ontology, delocalised consciousness, instantiated being, momentary ontological reincarnation within identity, nondualism, perceptibility, instantiation, time, being, identity, consciousness.

Why call Buddhism on the little shit like flying magic dogs, life after death as rebirth, or persistent morality. Call it on the big ontological stuff like perception demonstrably existing.

[Anonymous No.19703375]

>>19703356
Well natural and supernatural are just categories of phenomena or experience. So in a sense, you have to deny the absolute reality of both if you want to be consistent, and the Mahayana schools of Buddhism indeed do this, because the real is free of all description. See the Lankavatara Sutra, for instance, which argues all phenomena are merely arisen in consciousness. But this also has a soteriological side, in that the mind can be purified by following the Buddhist path. So it is not merely a cold scientific calculus.

[Anonymous No.19703383]

>>19703375
>>19703368
>>19703364
>>19703350
>>19703334
What about Sikhism?

[Anonymous No.19703415]

>>19703383
Fully sikh cunt.

A modern invented nationalism that's been very successful due to its in-group behaviour. It acts as a religion in public for funding and social respect, but is primarily a power network. You can see this because it hasn't split into a thousand different sects based on disagreements about major unprovable claims about external reality. Ie: it isn't a religion because it doesn't act like one.

[Anonymous No.19703420]

>>19703415
So what's the true religion

[Anonymous No.19703436]

>>19703420
The one I choose

[Anonymous No.19703812]

>>19703331
this is a lie. redditors love buddhism

[Anonymous No.19703823]

>>19703293
get back to re-ddit you online religion shopping underage. i can tell your worldview is shit

[Anonymous No.19704001]

>>19703293
You're a ignorant fuck.

[Anonymous No.19704012]

>>19703334
>karma
just look around u and u will see it in action a million different ways

>rebirth
we are reborn anew with each breath we take, each time we change our mind, each time we fall in love or say good-bye

>hell heaven ghost demon and god realms
i live in LA and so i see firsthand that the Realm of Hungry ghosts exists. if this hell exists, we can infer the other hells and heavens probably do as well

>divine eye
those who dance are thought to be insane only by those who don't hear the music

>unaided flight
u mean like the literally trillions of birds and insects that do it every day? ok...

>speaking to gods
all it takes is 5 grams of magic mushrooms and anyone can do so

>speaking to death (mara)
ie, what Freud called free floating anxiety

>weather gods
think of it as dark matter if that better appeals to your 21st century materialist sensibilities, nerd

don't be a literalist. no one likes a literalist

[Anonymous No.19704039]

>>19703420
Christianity. Also, why do you expect the true religion to come from India? How much of a stupid normie are you?

[Anonymous No.19704296]

>>19703350
>Buddha having debates with God
there's no god in buddhism(a creator, omnipotent, omniscient being) , only devas (spirits of a higher plane of existence,more like angels in the christian world)

[Anonymous No.19704299]

>>19704012
this post is based, actually well informed and will trigger all the whiny faggots
10/10 post

[Anonymous No.19704589]

>>19703436
Mate Thomas went to India. Jesus wasn’t racist against Jews, Samaritans and Noahide YHWH fearers who lived righteously.

[Anonymous No.19704661]

>>19704039
>Christianity
lol

[Anonymous No.19704703]

>>19703293
anon, you can try at any time.
the world is here for you just to suffer,
this essence is there, but also far away
let go of your sense
and sense will let go

[Anonymous No.19704836]

Look at the brow ridges on them mofos.

[Anonymous No.19704847]

>>19703293
Buddhism is Reddit/IFLS closet atheism disguised as a religion and Hinduism is idolatrous cow worship

[Anonymous No.19704916]

>>19704296
>inb4 seething rebbit nihilist
Maybe so in theravada but not in mahayana. There it is a philosophical necessity called dharmakaya, or sometimes the "buddha in heaven" or a similar expression is used.

[Anonymous No.19704928]

>>19703812
They love scientific buddhism that denies anything they can't measure with a folding stick. The jews have been working overtime to create this kind of modern Buddhism for them. You just have to look around in the Buddhist community and see that its full of jewish influencers. In the west all organized religions are fucked.

[Anonymous No.19704938]

>>19704589
Thomas didn't. It's a myth. Even a pop publicly admitted this was a myth.

[Anonymous No.19705043]

>>19704296
I was referring to Brahma, very much a God to Hindus
>>19704847
There's no "closet atheism" it rejects the notion of isvara or a creator deity. And if it were a base positivism it wouldn't have any metaphysics or soteriology. Keep seething christer, both Hindus and Buddhists largely ignore you and your missionaries for having a small child's notion of cosmology

[Anonymous No.19705058]

>>19703356
>Do they believe it's real or metaphors? If the latter do you know of any religions that don't believe obviously fake supernatural stuff?
real
"its all metaphors" is a reddit cope to try and say eastern religions are just philosophies

[Anonymous No.19705064]

>>19703313
karma, reincarnation, rebirth, Gods, heaven/hell realms, celestial beings

[Anonymous No.19705070]

>>19704012
>don't be a literalist. no one likes a literalist
cope reddit

[Anonymous No.19705075]

>>19704296
There isn't an Abrahamic monotheistic God but there are pagan gods

[Anonymous No.19705087]

>>19703293
Retard-tier post. My suggestion is to get the fuck out of here and start reading.

[Anonymous No.19705096]

>>19703436
Anyone got the Lainpill chart?

[Anonymous No.19705132]

>>19704012
holy and based

[Anonymous No.19705135]

>>19705132
not really

[Anonymous No.19705148]

>/lit/ loves ortholarping and tradlarping
>/lit/ hates pajeetlarping
Why

[Anonymous No.19705166]

>>19705148
because one is true the other won't poo in the loo

[Anonymous No.19705183]

>>19705148
Because traditionalismisticalist sedevacantist latin mass autocephalous catholicoi romanian orthodoxy is so far removed from daily life that it might as well not exist. The entire point of Christianity is to free you from the rules, this is just a more extreme variant where you openly admit that you get to make the rules up as you go and everyone other than you has to follow them.

Meanwhile, Buddists are constantly talking about doing stuff, like meditating and not jerking off and such, and that involves actual rules.

[Anonymous No.19705192]

>>19705096

[Anonymous No.19705203]

>>19705166
I don't think there's any major religion as obviously false and ridiculously primitive as christianity

[Anonymous No.19705214]

>>19705203
>I don't think there's any major religion as obviously false and ridiculously primitive as christianity

[Anonymous No.19705219]

>>19705183
>The entire point of Christianity is to free you from the rules
how many levels of unitarian is this?

[Anonymous No.19705234]

>>19705192
Arigatou gozaimasu

[Anonymous No.19705245]

>>19705214
>volcano demon going to eat you if you don't listen to the priest
>not ridiculously primitive
And what part of the world does Christianity thrive in today?

[Anonymous No.19705253]

>>19705214
>criticize christer's laughable desert cult
>get hit with soijak
like clockwork

[Anonymous No.19705254]

>>19705192
Epic chart

[Anonymous No.19705282]

>>19705254
It could be longer, there's the writings of Vannevar Bush or the stuff by the guy who did experiments with dolphins (can't remember his name but he's mentioned in a layer of Lain). Chart seems focused on postmodernism and cybernetics though, which has a good affinity with Lain

[Anonymous No.19705318]

>>19705245
>i can't make an argument so I resort to misrepresenting concepts
>checkmate Christians
holy cringe lmao
>And what part of the world does Christianity thrive in today?
most of it

[Anonymous No.19705323]

>>19705253
>le epik maymay text

[Anonymous No.19705331]

>>19705318
I can't make an argument? Can you make an argument, soijak icoooner?

[Anonymous No.19705339]

>>19703436
>>19705096
are there charts for the rest of these?

[Anonymous No.19705340]

>>19705318
Long live the christology of Andean-Congolese, truly God's chosen

[Anonymous No.19705344]

>>19705323
Case in point :^)

[Anonymous No.19705354]

>>19705331
>I can't make an argument? Can you make an argument, soijak icoooner?
if it makes you seethe its worth it