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I frankly think it is amazing how a single book shaped how the world imagines Colombia, saving it from being a cocaine farm. Is 100 Years of Solitude the greatest work in the history of South America? I cannot think of a single book that has done more good to a country than it.

My country is only associated with bunda and favelas ever since we got destroyed in a football match. Is it even possible to salvage this through literature? How powerful can literature be?

>> No.19700000

You can. Just self pub on amazon and buy ads here like Call of the Crocodile

>> No.19700041

>>19699956
Yes, you can, but you have to be a once-in-a-lifetime storyteller like García Márquez.

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>>19700041
I can't do this. He writes too well. He also lived a fulfilling life and knew plenty about humanity. His characters don't come out of the alter egoes of a depressed autistic fellow pondering how the lives of others work.

I don't know how to be subtle. I can't even get my fantasy book published.

>> No.19700079

>>19700000
Holy shit I was not expecting to get quints

>> No.19700102

>>19699956
It's the fate of Brazil to watch all his neighbors get great writers while it remains a poor, retarded, disease ridden wanna-be U.S.

>> No.19700191

>>19700000
Holy shit

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>>19700000

>> No.19700206

>>19700000
I will now read F. Gardner

>> No.19700207

>>19699956
>My country is only associated with bunda and favelas
Brazil? Well, there's your problem.

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>>19700207
I just thought that we could write something that is unironically good for a change. We've had good authors, but our books are very sterile, cynical and depressive, written by serious journalists and lawyers who truly did not live life - not the way Márquez did. They are the most sincere when they write about dreamers and honestly fall flat whenever they discuss love, betrayal and life in community. That is expected since they were isolated and lonely men. Just compare Mariana, a chronicle about love, and 'O Diplomático', which is about a low class public worker who dreams about becoming emperor but can't even get married since he is just cucked by a younger man who knows how to get things done. You'll find that the later is one of the most sincere descriptions of a schizoid and only achievable by one who had that condition - meanwhile the other is insincere and lacks any subtlety, embracing common images such as dancing being seen as love and love itself being unromantic and filled with acts of love rather than genuine feeling.

We are all like this. Brazilian writers are a bunch of losers romanticizing the lives that they are not living, except without a fraction of the talent that Joyce, Machado and Pessoa had.

>> No.19700268

>>19700248
I mean, I'm sure there's something uplifting and full of life out there? Isn't Grande Sertão: Veredas supposed to be good?

>> No.19700273

>>19700248
>'O Diplomático', which is about a low class public worker who dreams about becoming emperor but can't even get married since he is just cucked by a younger man who knows how to get things done.
literally me

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>>19700268
Suffers from the same issue. It is a very rich brazilian doctor writing about the more interesting adventures of his friend who is a cattle herder. I read it as a byproduct of the tiny bit of life experience that Guimarães Rosa, but it is still a shy and not well lived life in comparison to Márquez. When it comes to Brazil is is always the same problem: over aristocratic and decadent writers who belong to the brazilian elites and who cannot help but romanticize the lives they never lived. Brazilian literature is surprisingly uncolourful, depressing, realistic and self-conscious, as a reflection of what an unfit elite thinks that the lives of normal people are.

Our exception is maybe Mário de Andrade, but he didn't write actual magic or twisted realism, he wrote stereotypes and caricatures in order to represent communist worldviews (the capitalist being a giant and fat italian man to be killed by the brave and innocent brazilian indigenous proletarian in a Davi x Goliath battle is different from José Arcadío Buendía having super powers).

Modern brazilian books are even more depressing. It is either smutt, college liberals talking about smoking weed and romanticizing the lives of normal people, or hermits trying too hard to be Machado de Assis.

We are all socially impaired.

>> No.19700429

I caught a bunch of references to 100 years of solitude in this movie. pretty based they had it in mind

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>>19700000
Holy moly

>> No.19700448

>>19700000
pretty based my dude

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>>19700000
Holyfuck

>> No.19700568

>>19699956
>saving it from being a cocaine farm
but that is what it is, you simply have a different view of it from the world due to your geographical proximity

>> No.19700601

>>19700568
My view of it has changed a lot since reading Marquez and he does include more of the gritty things

>> No.19700692

Because you aren't putting forth any effort to. Do you think Marquez just slapped out 100 Years of Solitude in a drowsy afternoon you miserable retard?

>> No.19700693

>>19700000
The numbers show the way.

>> No.19700702

>>19700000
Absolutely wasted trips, and the (You)s do not count when you give them to yourself

>> No.19700754

>>19700702
nuh-uh

>> No.19700764

>>19699956
I wish someone could make an "iconic" and good book by an Ecuadorian besides Jorge Icaza and his Huasipungo

>> No.19700782

>born and raised in Colombia
>writes 100 years in Mexico
>publishes it in Argentina
truly Mr worldwide.

>> No.19700808

Am I the only one bothered to see serious art like 100 Years become Disneyfied just so it can become another corporate brand and legitimized by propaganda about “representation?”

>> No.19700834

>>19700808
I don't think the movie appropriates itself of 100 Years of Solitude, just like the Rio move does not appropriate itself of the city. There is plenty of inspiration from the original material, but such is done merely because of how 100 Years shaped the public imagination of the colombian jungle. It was not Disney that disneyfied Márquez, but Márquez who influenced Colombia's public image to such extent that he marquezified Disney's movie.

>> No.19701039

>>19699956
bunda e favelas kkkkkkk vtnc mlq vai conhecer a literatura de seu país, mongol

>> No.19701072

>>19700248
Brazilian is the language of song and dance, perhaps poetry, alas not great serious works like those of the Russian mssyedsy

>> No.19702336

>>19700000
Nice man.