Stoicism

[Anonymous No.19686494]

Is it really nothing more than the Cope Philosophy?

[Anonymous No.19686508]

>>19686494
Meditations is not a philosophy book. Stoicism has an actual cosmology and metaphysics unrelated to their love of death and simplicity crap you know.

[Anonymous No.19686519]

>>19686508
>Stoicism has an actual cosmology and metaphysics unrelated to their love of death and simplicity crap you know.

Care to explain?

[Anonymous No.19686552]

>>19686519
It’s extremely hard to get a clear picture because we lost all works of people like Chrysippus. Everything we know survives in secondary accounts and usually criticisms of them like Sextus Empiricus and Cicero. They were defined by their opposition to the materialist Epicureans and believed in a kind of monistic pantheism where the universe is governed by the logical “natural” logos. The reason it is associated with the marcus aurelius self improvement kind of crap is because they held to a virtue ethics where the goal of humans is to act in accordance with so called nature or the logos rather than to try and fight against the inherent logos and pneuma and cyclic nature of the universe by fearing natural things like death and using the intellect to revolt against things that go “wrong.” But like I said, we really don’t know much and meditations is a personal diary that is almost entirely about him trying to be virtuous, it’s not an actual treatise in philosophy that attempts to explain stoicism in the slightest

[Anonymous No.19686577]

>>19686552
Also, keep in mind that “physics” was a large part of philosophy back then so just like the epicureans they had an opinion on the physical nature of the universe which was kind of heraclitean while the epicureans held to an atomist interpretation

[Anonymous No.19686741]

>>19686552
Interesting, from where did you learn this?