Meta Discussion Thread

[Anonymous No.19676792]

Philosophy discussion is no longer allowed on this board. That means all discussion of philosophical literature is a warnable and perhaps bannable offense. That or you should rethink who you make a janny.
Every board is allowed one meta thread as per the owner.

[Anonymous No.19676795]

i think there's a new janny, i've seen a couple instances of heavy handed moderation

[Anonymous No.19676797]

>>19676792
Jannies did the right thing. Ban political philosophy as well, the board might become good.

[Anonymous No.19676800]

But I come here for the philosophy and philosophical books. I do not care about your YA.

[Anonymous No.19676803]

>>19676795
It’s a tranny janny. Philosophy angers them because they were filtered I bet.

[Anonymous No.19676809]

>>19676792
They banned a few others. It's some bitch cuck janitor who should've been thrown out in the woods as a child but we didn't do it and now they're our burden.

[Anonymous No.19676811]

>>19676792
It's been going on for a few weeks now, they delete even threads which are specifically about books...

[Anonymous No.19676813]

Based Jannies. This board is for the discussion of literature, not religion and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19676814]

[Anonymous No.19676816]

>>19676792
They should have made me a janny instead

[Anonymous No.19676817]

There's been some retarded jannie deleting good threads recently, what the fuck is up with that
I've seen other meta threads get sniped for no good reason, hope this stays up

[Anonymous No.19676819]

*raises paw*
uhhh so why don't y'all use the uhhh, y'know, Humanities board for that kind of discussion?

[Anonymous No.19676820]

>Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.
It's in the sticky, retard.

[Anonymous No.19676824]

>>19676817
no jannies lead to retards spamming porn which lead to tranny jannies not understanding this board and deleting the good threads

[Anonymous No.19676827]

>>19676820
This is a good rule of thumb but it should be enforced lightly. Threads should be about books, not generic zoomer retard discussions about whatever they've been binge-wikipedia'ing and watching youtube summaries of lately.

[Anonymous No.19676829]

>>19676819
his is for genocie denial and threads on phenotypes, nobody read a single book there
lit is for literature and philosophy
Also fuck that JW faggot that started posting here too, first he shit up his with his dumb threads and cartoons and now he discovered lit too

[Anonymous No.19676830]

>>19676819
>>19676820
Because you need philosophy to talk about books. You want to talk about 100 random facts you remembered about harry potter lore? Pomo lit is philosophical and is lit. So is modernism and so is literary realism. You go to reddit

[Anonymous No.19676836]

>>19676820
He still is deleting threads that refer to books. The last 2 proto-psychology threads are a good example.

[Anonymous No.19676852]

>>19676830
this board is 90% theology, classics and philosophy when you filter out the bookshelves and charts threads

[Anonymous No.19676853]

>>19676824
>No, jannies lead to retards spamming porn which leads to tranny jannies not understamding this board and deleting the good threads.*
Ftfy. When I first posted here I posted a seminude girl who wasn't even lewd and got banned from /lit/. Now they're all raging turbocucks.

[Anonymous No.19676870]

>>19676852
Those are ideal for literature. The Bible, the Quran are the most selling pieces of literature there. Obviously derivative discussion of those is had. Want to ask what comes after pomo lit? You need philosophy. There is a permanent scifi thread and tons of fictions threads and you can't meaningfully talk about fiction outside the literary movement that encapsulates it.

[Anonymous No.19676876]

I believe we can grandfather Bataille in as an author rather than a philosopher. 2022 is the year /lit/ will become a Bataillean board.

[Anonymous No.19676880]

This board would be dead without the philosophy and religion. Those are the essence of the Western literature canon.

[Anonymous No.19676891]

>>19676880
agreed, the retard jannie should neck

[Anonymous No.19676896]

>>19676880
>This board would be dead
We shouldn't assume that this isn't the jannie's objective, tho.
>>19676797
Absolute bullshit, even the Houellebec thread has fully degenerated into a /pol/ show.

[Anonymous No.19676912]

>>19676792
If jannies start pruning philosophy threads on /lit/ then half of the board will be gone, and don't tell me to go to /his/, nobody knows shit about philosophy there and it's mostly /pol/v2

[Anonymous No.19676919]

>>19676792
>Philosophy discussion is no longer allowed on this board.
Finally, thanks jannies

[Anonymous No.19676923]

>>19676912
It's the cuck porn culture from /pol/. I've never seen a group of ppl be so wrong about something and have no answer and instead revel in their inability as a solution. It's worse than being brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.19676930]

>>19676792
They could solve this by creating a /phil/ board but nah, they rather cry about off topic threads. Fukcing retards.

[Anonymous No.19676933]

I’ve been making threads asking for recommendations for a catholic study bible for the past week or so and the nanny keeps deleting them within minutes for being off topic while they leave actual off topic threads up for hours. Jenny, if you’re reading this, I just want to let you know that YWNBAW.

[Anonymous No.19676935]

>>19676824
>>19676830
>discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

[Anonymous No.19676956]

>>19676792
>Philosophy discussion is no longer allowed on this board.
Thank God, hope the mods and jannies start deleting religious discussion, that should go to >>>/his/

[Anonymous No.19676960]

>>19676930
They will not give us a phil board insiting that philosophy is lit. We just have to bully the tranny until he gives up.

[Anonymous No.19676963]

>>19676876
Bataille's day in the anal sun is already over. 2016~ was peak "crazy antinomian leftist" fad on /lit/, and because of the elective affinities this fad shared with the twitter-sphere's own (much more milquetoast) leftism, plus its pathetic craving to seem cool and "into theory," it was inevitable that uncool twitter trannies and crypto-DSA twitter leftists who listen punch-pulling podcasts to would coopt this fad and run it into the ground. By 2017-2018 it was already cringe to be "into" Bataille, even though Bataille himself is cool. Bataille became what people who pretended to be into Deleuze in 2014-15 pretended to be into, to one-up the other trannies in their local group who are still "only" into Deleuze. Same thing that happened to Nick Land and a hundred others.

To make Bataille cool again would require recovering his thought in a way that frustrates its capture by trannies, while also skirting the charybdis of making him too appealing to reddit tier youtube Indo-Europeanist pseudo-Nietzscheans. This would be extremely difficult. One way to start would be actually reading Bataille and making interesting posts about the sacred conspiracy here, but this "actually reading" requirement instantly disqualifies 99-100% of /lit/ posters and 100% of twitter users, who of course just want to post wistful headshots of their philosopher of the month and vaguely exchange vague ideas about their vague understanding of the author's ideas, mediated through other muddle-headed internet retards' own vague ideas of the same.

[Anonymous No.19676967]

>>19676930
This. It is the obvious and very simple solution.

[Anonymous No.19676977]

>>19676797
oh boy, ANOTHER thread about YA novelists that jannies masturbate to

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.19676986]

jannies can suck my fucking dick. i will NEVER go to /his/

[Anonymous No.19676994]

>>19676935
Philosophy is metaliterature. It does not need a book. You can never talk about pomo lit as ap whole then you'd always reference particular books about pomo lit.

[Anonymous No.19676996]

>>19676792
that was a shitty thread OP and you should feel bad. you werent discussing anything, just bantposting.

[Anonymous No.19677002]

>>19676986
If they didn't masturbate to cuck porn and paganism then sure but they are determined to destroy anything good about ppl because nobody has lynched the jannies for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.19677008]

>>19677002

[Anonymous No.19677014]

>>19676912
/his/ is a shitty board full of obese manchildren who play AoE and browse wikipedia all day writing out the "stats" of different "war units" like reality is a video game derivative. /his/ is the worst board on the entire website. it's even worse than /mu/.

[Anonymous No.19677015]

>>19676963
>One way to start would be actually reading Bataille and making interesting posts about the sacred conspiracy here, but this "actually reading" requirement instantly disqualifies 99-100% of /lit/
We need to potlach the election tourists until they've nothing left

[Anonymous No.19677019]

>>19676792
What literature are you specifically making reference to in the thread?

[Anonymous No.19677026]

>>19676933
>asking for recommendations
>deleted
he should permaban you

[Anonymous No.19677027]

>>19677019
The whole of european philosophical literature. The whole of literature is addressed in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19677028]

>>19676792
It was a pretty shitty thread to be fair

[Anonymous No.19677036]

>>19676994
'Metaliterature' discussion belongs on /his/. /lit/ is for specific reference to philosophical books. Maybe you should actually read some philosophy books if you can't work out the very clear distinction.

[Anonymous No.19677054]

>>19677027
No you're asking about philosophical celebrities

[Anonymous No.19677068]

>>19676792

[Anonymous No.19677075]

>>19677068
So you can't discuss literature either.

[Anonymous No.19677093]

A month ban for discussing literature. Wtf?

[Anonymous No.19677097]

>>19677068
deserved it

[Anonymous No.19677111]

>>19676803
jannies are always trannies, it's part of the job requirement

[Anonymous No.19677115]

>>19677036
>>19677054
No I'm speaking of literary theory. If literary theory does not belong on /lit/ then the board should implode.

[Anonymous No.19677116]

They are also deleting messages and preventing them from appearing on warosu. This is the final takeover.

[Anonymous No.19677120]

>>19677097
How is that deserved janny? It's a month ban for discussing literature?

[Anonymous No.19677121]

>>19677054
All of them except Socrates are authors and selective works are mentioned. One can not deny there is trannying ongoing.

[Anonymous No.19677133]

>>19676963
Is this some kind of challenge?
I'm all for reading Bataille and effort posting, but Sacred Conspiracy is near the bottom of reading list on this guy. Should I move it up I just finished Michel Surya's biography on him and was planning to spend the rest of today dreading Blue of Noon.

[Anonymous No.19677145]

>>19676792
It's really annoying because /lit/ is the most literate board and easily the best place on 4chan for philosophy. Pushing it to the /his/ haplogroup brainlets will effectively kill high IQ conversation on this entire website. Fuck that janny.

[Anonymous No.19677155]

Stop deleting it trannynigger

[Anonymous No.19677178]

Can someone start a board without trannies?

[Anonymous No.19677183]

>>19676819
/lit/ has been filled with philosophy threads (which have always been allowed, provided that somebody engages with the text of some thinker instead of making a general topic thread) since forever. it's where the best philosophy threads happen on this website, and it's not even close. /his/ is okay for history, but those philistines don't read and lack intellectual depth.

[Anonymous No.19677186]

>>19676792
>>19676795
>>19676817
>>19676912
>recently
I got a 3 day ban for this thread back in March
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/lit/thread/17755141
not even a warning or 1 day, a 3 day ban

I thought it was a unique and worthwhile thread, especially since it was getting good responses. I just did a search for "mayans"|"maya" and there have been 0 threads at all about them since so that just reaffirms my thought.

[Anonymous No.19677194]

>>19677178
That's like saying you want a society without colds and flus. It's a nice dream, but endemic diseases will always be with us. Any population with a healthy diet, fresh air, exercise, and a little bit of zinc and vitamin D supplementation, will easily shrug off the nastiest of upper respiratory infections.

All this stems from a healthy mindset. A man who cares for his family, his community, and his friends will naturally eat some occasional oysters for extra zinc and prevent his son from becoming a tranny. A board that cares about its own spirituo-racial hygiene will naturally repel trannies.

[Anonymous No.19677196]

>>19677145
>>19677155
This is the real issue. It's not that philosophy isn't allowed. It's that deletion and bans are clearly targeted, motivated by ideological jannies.
One of the best threads ever got moved to /his/ and instantly died.

[Anonymous No.19677200]

>>19677178
we'd have to nuke /lgbt/ off the site first. hiroshima-moot is a trooner-coomer.

[Anonymous No.19677212]

They deleted my Analytic philosophy thread.

[Anonymous No.19677221]

>>19677196
I like how they thought that was a funny way to resolve it then they stopped once we started talking about philosophy and religion there so now they just ban the threads.

[Anonymous No.19677225]

>>19677196
They can't be laissez faire either though. This anon's thread is a good example >>19677186 of the ambiguity of being a janny.

I like that thread, I like the topic, I like the idea. But the OP is not great. It has a VERY thinly /lit/-related topic, which could easily be remedied by actually relating it to a book and posting about the book's contents. Because of how tenuous its on-topicness seems, to the janny who is just doing his job, the cherry on top of shallow shitposting ("MAYANS > GREEKS PROVE ME WRONG") makes it seem like a bad thread, even if it isn't.

Help the janny do his job less obnoxiously by asking yourself: can I make this thread more concretely about books? Do I really need to post "Materialism is the best. Prove me wrong"? How about I go read that one book I read on materialism, and then actually discuss the author's thesis to get the argument rolling? But we all know, the vast majority of people who make these threads have never read a book on the topic.

[Anonymous No.19677226]

>>19677183
I know for sure that philosophy threads were never removed in 2015 and nobody complained AFAIR though I visited this board little. This shit with removing philosophy is new.

[Anonymous No.19677228]

>>19677196
>>19677221
Obviously the measure for being janitor has nothing to do w literature and only to do w time spent online.

[Anonymous No.19677234]

kill all jannies

[Anonymous No.19677238]

>>19677228
>w
Stop that, faggot.

[Anonymous No.19677243]

>>19677225
No. Janny has one rule. Ban porn, ban /pol/. The janitor isn't even a /lit/ poster. Obv they have no idea what to ban. I'm sure they're pissed they have to have meta threads.

[Anonymous No.19677248]

>>19677225
>>19677155
Look at this thread. It's clearly a literature thread about literature. It could not be more on topic or relevant to literature today. But the result was a month long ban.
You can't help the mods when they are the ones ruining this place.

[Anonymous No.19677249]

>>19677243
I'd rather the janny ban shitty shallow threads of any variety but allow /pol/ threads that are actually about books, than ban every right winger but allow social media tier chitchat about anything as long as it isn't right wing.

I have a strong feeling you are a tourist.

[Anonymous No.19677258]

>>19676792
I got banned for this. Fuck the new Janny.

[Anonymous No.19677262]

>>19677248
Aren't you the Tocqueville spammer? You always post a pic of him and a quote. Janny probably got tired of the spam.

[Anonymous No.19677265]

>>19677155
Whoever gave you a month ban for doing *exactly* what the /lit/ sticky told you to do for philosophy (e.g., sticking to a particular book, quoting excerpts, etc.) needs to be taken out back and shot. He will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.19677271]

>>19677225
Do you really think it's too much to ask for a janny that isn't basically a (shitty) robot and has the ability to judge threads with the mindset of someone apart of the community as to what is good and what isn't?
Can't jannies only apply for one board? It's not like he should be some passing stranger that knows nothing about the board culture. Why choose to moderate for a board you know nothing about?

[Anonymous No.19677273]

>>19677262
Compared to Wagnerfag who posts every day and in every single thread? The tocqueville threads definitely weren't common enough to be called spam by anyone but a janny. It was like once a month.
Plus the everyone who reads liked those threads.

[Anonymous No.19677275]

>>19676933
Precisely this. Where's my /rel/ board?

[Anonymous No.19677287]

>>19677265
It's funny. If you follow the rules and try to have actual discussion they get really pissed off. Even more than if you shitpost or derail threads.
Notice how no one cares about the spammers who post things without any real content.

[Anonymous No.19677295]

This thread is literally evidence that it's the philosophy niggas ruining the board. You fags will do anything to not talk about books.

[Anonymous No.19677301]

>>19677295
Post your most recent threads and effortposts.

[Anonymous No.19677305]

>>19677273
bumping your thread for a week straight is spam

[Anonymous No.19677309]

>>19677155
>>19677248
lol, now the tranny is deleting posts in the metathread of OPs exposing his activity. It's pretty clear what is getting banned if you have a look around what offlit midwittery is being tolerated on this board. Its a communist takeover.

[Anonymous No.19677314]

>>19677305
You're still here and seething?

[Anonymous No.19677317]

>>19677309
people can always just refer to the posts in the archive. who do they think they're fooling?

[Anonymous No.19677325]

>>19677271
The point is that this is an ambiguous rule and always has been. Posters here have a spectrum of opinions on it. You are closer to the laissez faire extreme than I am, at least on this issue. I think it's nonsense to ban /pol/ as long as the /pol/fags are posting about books. Then there are anons here who think anything but fiction is off-topic, which we both would agree is stupid.

Any one of us could have become a janny, since I hear there's a lot of money in it and the benefits are very good. So how do you say which is the "right" interpretation?

Just as I was writing this, this poster appeared >>19677295 and while I disagree with him overall, he has a point. It's a lot easier to bullshit about "materialism" than it is to bullshit about having read The Scarlet Letter, so philosophyfags have a lot more non-bookposts.

I think it's a meeting eachother halfway thing, overall. Janny wants to respect board culture, but can go overboard. We want board culture, but can get lazy about offtopic. Janny can't be perfect. Let's try to build a constructive, organic relationship with our new highly-paid friend.

>>19677273
That's true, the Wagner guy was a bit much too. I liked both the Wagner and Tocqueville content. If you weren't spamming/reposting then it does seem shitty to delete it.

[Anonymous No.19677327]

Detach &Humanities from /his/ and make "/sh/ - Social Sciences & Humanities". Then make "/rel/ - Religion" as a tradcath containment zone. If /v/ is allowed to have 7 boards, we should be able to have a few more.

[Anonymous No.19677329]

>>19677317
I've had a lot of my posts deleted and prevented from being archived.

[Anonymous No.19677338]

>>19677329
That only happens if they get deleted before warosu does its scrape. It's probably intervals of every 5 or 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.19677347]

>>19677338
Nah, had entire threads not archive even though they were up for hours.

[Anonymous No.19677357]

>Book on this off-topic feel? :^)
Allowed
>Get it off your chest straight off /adv/ or /r9k/
General, always allowed
>Other off-topic shit like youtubers where not a single book is mentioned
Allowed
>Talk about philosophy or religion with mentions of books and actual literature
Always raided by commies and removed because "it's not pertinent"
Hypocrite trannies disgust me

[Anonymous No.19677359]

>>19677347
The archives are not controlled by the regular jannies.

[Anonymous No.19677362]

>>19677347
That is weird then but I don't think the janny can do that. Jannies are very busy, they are paid every hour (usually a few hundred to a few thousand USD) so they have to constantly be cashing their checks.

[Anonymous No.19677377]

>>19676963
>One way to start would be actually reading
>/lit/
>Reading
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.19677392]

>>19676819
Shut the FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.19677395]

>>19677325
>>19677357
I wouldn't have a problem if jannies were deleting good threads that are slightly off in quality, if this board were an absolute paragon of on topic high quality threads and op.
But it is anything but that. They ignore far less ambiguous shit, and I mean shit, all the time, in favor for deleting threads full of quality discussion on a good topic because I dunno, the op image was a meme or a cute girl or something.

[Anonymous No.19677399]

>>19677258
>Wojack posting
deserved.

[Anonymous No.19677400]

>>19676792
>make this board about books and poetry and delete any and all religion/philosophy /pol/bait threads
holy shit, i just fixed /lit/!

[Anonymous No.19677410]

>>19676880
>This board would be dead without the philosophy and religion.
No, the catalog would be filled with people discussing books instead, which is what it fucking should be

[Anonymous No.19677413]

>>19677400
But then nothing will be posted?

[Anonymous No.19677421]

>>19677410
"I wanna smell [youtuber]'s feet" is not literature.

[Anonymous No.19677422]

>>19677395
True

I think it's time to activate the nuclear option. Janny, you must show us your full power. Holocaust every shitpost on the board, purge us of pages 2 through 8.

Let's start over and build a new world, together, free of offtopic threads.

[Anonymous No.19677430]

>>19677410
Spunk or cum?

[Anonymous No.19677448]

Does /lit/ even have mods or jannies? /sffg/ is such a shithole, I genuinely wonder if it’s even moderated.

[Anonymous No.19677460]

>>19677448
99% of the time it seems this board has no jannies, but when I say the "n word" once they show up and give me a fucking 3 day ban.

[Anonymous No.19677469]

>>19677400
But how will you then be able to discuss the themes of specific works especially non-fiction? Posts are then just going to be novel re-telling and lyrical exhaltations without any depth. You might aswell g o b a c k t o r e d d i t. (janny is filtering this)

[Anonymous No.19677471]

>>19677448
>>19677460
Jannie shows up twice a day to delete any thread containing effortposts. That is their wicked way.

[Anonymous No.19677604]

>>19677327
I don’t think splitting the boards will do any good due to the fact that /lit/ already has a small number of users. We need jannies that understand the culture of /lit/ and can make informed decisions on whether or not a thread is shit or not. Personally, I don’t see any problem with philosophy and religion being discussed on /lit/. I think it adds a lot of spice to the board.

[Anonymous No.19677606]

>>19677460
I think if a post has multiple reports it gets seen, but if it has none it passes by. If I get in an argument and get called a nigger I'll report on wifi, mobile data and then a vpn and most of the time they get banned, even if I called them a nigger first.

[Anonymous No.19677610]

>>19677606
I feel like moderation has been a nice light touch lately with letting us say nigger. I always feel embarrassed for any janny/mod bans someone for saying nigger. Like what is this, reddit? Why not ban retard and faggot too, you retarded fucking faggot?

[Anonymous No.19677644]

>>19677606
Let's test your technique then, nigger. I for one think this is excessive moderation.

[Anonymous No.19677654]

>>19677604
I take it personally that they want to get rid of philosophy threads. I've learned about so many thinkers I would have never encountered thanks to this board. It has enriched my life beyond belief. If these soulless faggot jannies want to go to war with even the high effort, rule-abiding philosophy threads, then I will make life difficult for them.

[Anonymous No.19677657]

>>19676795
it's a woman for sure

[Anonymous No.19677663]

>>19677644
Let's go then nigger. Let's see if nigger jannies are paying attention.

[Anonymous No.19677670]

>>19677663
>>19677644
Niggers.

[Anonymous No.19677692]

>>19677654
There used to be a few unfathomably based roerich posters in the philosophy threads. The jannies banned them.

[Anonymous No.19677712]

>>19677692
Based Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.19677729]

>>19676792
Make a philosophy board then
I got banned like 5 times for asking a /lit/ related question while all the lazy shit baits stay up for days
Janniggers don't read and need to hang themselves asap