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[Anonymous No.19670161]

I'm interested in learning more about the materialism/idealism debate.

I'm reading Bernardo Kastrup at the moment but I'm at a loss of where to go from here.

[Anonymous No.19670169]

[Anonymous No.19670177]

[Anonymous No.19670184]

>>19670169
>>19670177
Thank you

[Anonymous No.19670190]

[Anonymous No.19670195]

>>19670169
>>19670177
>>19670190
I feel materialism has BTFO German idealism at this point

[Anonymous No.19670201]

[Anonymous No.19670210]

>>19670195
LOL

[Anonymous No.19670215]

[Anonymous No.19670220]

>>19670169
>>19670177
>>19670190
>>19670201
>>19670210
>>19670215
That should keep you busy for a while. But there's even more when you're ready young padawan.

[Anonymous No.19670222]

>>19670161
Realism >>>>>> Idealism > Materialism

[Anonymous No.19670229]

>>19670161
Andrés Gómez Emilsson is worth reading. He's trying to mathematically formalize the mechanisms within consciousness and psychedelic experiences.

https://qualiacomputing.com/
https://www.youtube.com/c/Andr%C3%A9sG%C3%B3mezEmilsson/videos

[Anonymous No.19670232]

>>19670222
The real is the ideal numbnut

[Anonymous No.19670238]

>>19670220
Appreciate it, anon

[Anonymous No.19670240]

>>19670229
Based, looks like a jolly fella

[Anonymous No.19670245]

>>19670229
>mathematically formalize

Please no

[Anonymous No.19670271]

>>19670232
>Against all this the philosophy of St. Thomas stands founded on the universal common conviction that eggs are eggs. The Hegelian may say that an egg is really a hen, because it is a part of an endless process of Becoming; the Berkeleian may hold that poached eggs only exist as a dream exists; since it is quite as easy to call the dream the cause of the eggs as the eggs the cause of the dream; the Pragmatist may believe that we get the best out of scrambled egos by forgetting that they ever were eggs, and only remembering the scramble. But no pupil of St. Thomas needs to addle his brains in order adequately to addle his eggs; to put his head at any peculiar angle in looking at eggs, or squinting at eggs, or winking the other eye in order to see a new simplification of eggs. The Thomist stands in the broad daylight of the brotherhood of men, in their common consciousness that eggs are not hens or dreams or mere practical assumptions; but things attested by the Authority of the Senses, which is from God.
>Thus, even those who appreciate the metaphysical depth of Thomism in other matters have expressed surprise that he does not deal with what many now think the main metaphysical question; whether we can prove that the primary act of recognition of any reality is real. The answer is that St. Thomas recognised instantly, what so many modern sceptics have begun to suspect rather laboriously; that a man must either answer that question in the affirmative, or else never answer any question, never ask any question, never even exist intellectually, to answer or to ask. I suppose it is true in a sense that a man can be a fundamental sceptic, but he cannot be anything else; certainly not even a defender of fundamental scepticism. If a man feels that all the movements of his own mind are meaningless, then his mind is meaningless, and he is meaningless; and it does not mean anything to attempt to discover his meaning.
~G.K. Chesterton

Realism >>>>>>>>>>> Schizolism > Niggerialism

[Anonymous No.19670278]

>>19670271
That was the gayest shit I ever read

[Anonymous No.19670286]

>That was the gayest shit I ever read

[Anonymous No.19670302]

>>19670161
He is just reintroducing Schopenhauer to 21st century so go back to him. Read The World as Will and Representation and ignore all of the retarded suggestions ITT

[Anonymous No.19670311]

>>19670286
seethe and cope

[Anonymous No.19670322]

>>19670302
>ignore all of the retarded suggestions ITT
>kant in this thread
>tfw hasn't even read first pages of WWR vol.1

[Anonymous No.19670324]

>>19670161
Just to be clear, the idealism vs materialism thing is a 19th century debate that was partially carried out to the analytic/synthetic distinction but there are other ways to conceptualize metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.19670435]

>>19670324
Such as?

[Anonymous No.19670905]

>>19670271

I love the dichotomy between the abstract, idealist, masculinist tendencies and the brutal, dishonorable realism of nigs. Being a physically fit, high IQ white man being mugged by a group of scrawny nigs. Wrong place! Wrong time! At the wrong time! Niggers, Kali, nature in the worst and lowest sense, and mother matter all generalize into the pessimistic, boring "incidentalism" comprised by materialism. The American worship of nigs is basically normies in some way defending their own arbitrariness from the grasp of high IQ men. The fear of being held to account, and of feeling shame. It's the same fear of the magic word, a mere word that burns their souls

[Anonymous No.19671052]

>>19670905
>The American worship of nigs is basically normies in some way defending their own arbitrariness from the grasp of high IQ men.

Right? I thought I was the only one. How does nobody else see this? (Except for you smart anon)

[Anonymous No.19671075]

>>19671052

Wow, my post wasn't even intended to be credible but I'm glad you found it to be

[Anonymous No.19671130]

>>19671075
The irony is lost on you

[Anonymous No.19671134]

>>19671130

Well the initial post was ironic so it was initially lost on you

[Anonymous No.19671144]

>>19671134
You miss the irony again intelligent anon. When will you learn?

[Anonymous No.19671153]

>>19671144

Have you tried being ironic about "being ironic"? Complete the circle, anon

[Anonymous No.19671159]

>>19671153
No u.