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19654283 No.19654283 [Reply] [Original]

Recommend some books about the American Frontier, both fiction and non-fiction are welcome

>> No.19654313

Have you read anything good on this topic already?

I haven't read anything on this but it seems like an interesting setting.

>> No.19654383
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>>19654313
I read Butcher's Crossing after finishing Stoner and I really enjoyed it. Read both if you haven't already

>> No.19654404
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THE DEMONYM OF UNITEDSTATES IS: «UNITEDSTATIAN».

>> No.19654424

>>19654383
Thanks anon

>> No.19654472

>>19654404
What about Australia or Colombia?
What are their demonyms?

Australia is a continent that includes more than just the Commonwealth of. Colombia refers to the Americas.

>> No.19654481

Do you like Ambrose Bierce OP?

G.A. Henty probably has a bunch of books on various periods of the frontier

Of course Turner's Frontier Thesis itself is worth reading

>> No.19654495

>>19654283
Journal of Nicholas Cresswell

Excellent first hand account of early American frontier times right before the revolutionary War written by a young English man.

>> No.19654556

>>19654404
kill yourself tripfaggot, go whine somewhere else
>>19654481
I've read Turner's Frontier Thesis for the purposes of an essay, I guess I'll check out those other two authors. Which of their works do you specifically recommend?

>> No.19654588

>>19654472
>What about Australia or Colombia?

WHAT ABOUT THEM?


>What are their demonyms?

«AUSTRALIAN», «COLOMBIAN», RESPECTIVELY.

WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME THIS?


>Australia is a continent...

AUSTRALIA IS A COUNTRY LOCATED IN THE CONTINENT OF OCEANIA.


>... Colombia refers to the Americas.

1. ?

2. THERE IS ONLY ONE AMERICA.

>> No.19654590

>>19654556
I've mostly read Bierce's short stories as precursors of weird and horror fiction, and while they aren't thematically "frontier" focused, they often have a kind of frontiersy, "anything can happen out here on the fringes" feel to them.

Henty is kind of a forgotten gem, he wrote an endless amount of war novels in various settings, including I think American frontier and wartime settings that are otherwise neglected by modern authors.

I guess when I think of the frontier, I think of that weird fringe that is both a geographical and a conceptual fringe of known reality. Weird in the original sense of the term. That's why I liked that movie, The Witch.

>> No.19654595

>>19654588
You are as bad as butterfly with these obnoxious, space-hogging shitposts of yours. I hope the person replying to you stops humoring you and doesn't supply any more opportunities to post offtopic garbage like this.

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>>19654595
>... space-hogging...


IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU USE NONE, OR BAD, SYNTAX, MAKING YOUR POSTS SEEM SMALL & SQUISHED, TEDIOUS TO READ, AND UNCOMFORTABLE TO SEE.

YOU ARE AKIN TO AN UGLY, DEFORMED WOMAN COMPLAINING ABOUT «UNFAIRNESS» BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEONE MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN HER.

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>>19654590
How do you feel about post-apocolyptic settings? I feel that they recapture the fringe concept you are talking about in a unique way

>> No.19654804

>>19654283
The works of Louis L'Amour's works. They offer a nice look into the realm of American frontiersmen and Westerns.

>> No.19655027

>>19654804
which is his best?

>> No.19655058

>>19654671
I agree and I love them if they're done right. Do you like Canticle for Leibowitz? I got it for Christmas.

One of the things I always think about in connection with frontiers is when Gilgamesh decides to wander off into the unknown. I always think of what the world must have seemed like to a Sumerian or Akkadian listener to that story and how their minds must have tried to picture it. The world wasn't one big flat container or globe of basically homogeneous "lands" to explore, who know what's out there. Kind of like in Herodotus, where the further he gets "out there," the weirder it gets, until you reach the endless wall of falling feathers.

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>>19654404
>THE DEMONYM OF UNITEDSTATES IS: «UNITEDSTATIAN».

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>>19654588
>WHAT ABOUT THEM?
>«AUSTRALIAN», «COLOMBIAN», RESPECTIVELY.
>WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME THIS?
>AUSTRALIA IS A COUNTRY LOCATED IN THE CONTINENT OF OCEANIA.
>1. ?
>2. THERE IS ONLY ONE AMERICA.

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>>19654644
>IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU USE NONE, OR BAD, SYNTAX, MAKING YOUR POSTS SEEM SMALL & SQUISHED, TEDIOUS TO READ, AND UNCOMFORTABLE TO SEE.
>YOU ARE AKIN TO AN UGLY, DEFORMED WOMAN COMPLAINING ABOUT «UNFAIRNESS» BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEONE MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN HER.

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>>19654283

>> No.19655108

>>19654404
No, it's American.

>> No.19655120

>>19654804
just read his infogalactic page and I'm interested

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>>19655058
>Canticle for Leibowitz
This is the second time I have been recommended this, I'll download it now and check it out.

The natural desire of man to conquer the unknown is something that seems to be a huge part of many civilizations of the past that modern people are now deprived of. The unexplored deep ocean and outer space are far too empty and vast to fill this void, it seems that only an apocalyptic event that wipes out the majority of people and recorded history would be sufficient

>> No.19655871

>>19654283
Bump

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