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>he hasn't read Horia Belcea

>> No.19646201

>>19646183
who

>> No.19646414
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>>19646183
Hey man, could you answer some questions on behalf of Horia?

1. Did Horia think people would believe he was Romanian?

2. Is the book a parody or is it serious? To have this be unclear is an achievement.

3. Does Horia own any guns?

4. How much has this cost him so far? His time is worth nothing, obviously.

5. Could it be that his time has negative value? What are the implications of this?

6. What are his investing tips, since he was able to handily beat the stock market?

7. When will we see the next book in the series? I'm interested in Belcean film theory, Belcean video game criticism, Belcean recipes, Belcean PUA tips, and Belcean crisis management.

8. Why didn't Horia have anyone read his first draft?

9. I read his book in GOOD FAITH—when will he apologize for unleashing this garbage?

10. Does he realize his diary is a long list of why no one wants to be friends with him?

>> No.19646480

>>19646414
1. Why do you doubt that he is Romanian? What do you think he is - American?
2. Serious, of course.
3. I guess we will not know until we know.
4. How much has this post cost you?
5. With great knowledge comes great suffering, and to have every moment be suffering would be to have negative time value
6. You must first understand the objective and subjective, and then apply that understanding to the stock market - understand that the bull market is masculine, and the bear market is also masculine (this is derived purely from my feelings towards the symbols of bull and bear) but stocks are feminine (because they are part of a whole, incomplete)
7. This is as silly as asking when Spengler would be releasing his top 10 claret list right after he had finished his 10 year magnum opus
8. He did.
9. It is not garbage, you simply got filtered.
10. Ad-hominem

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>>19646480
1. What do you think he is? His descriptions of university sounded american.

2. Lol why do you think that?

4. Read the book closely, so it was pretty expensive.

5. Okay I thought so.

8. No he didn't. They would have mentioned the semicolons.

9. Why isn't it garbage. The pics in my posts have excerpts. They stand for themselves.

10. Not what that means.

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>> No.19647289
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>Early Belceanism (2014-2017)
Feminine and masculine are modes of thinking: feminine is thinking focused on understanding and developing the physical world, and masculine thinking is focused on understanding and developing ideas. e.g. an engineer would engage in feminine activity while a philosopher would be masculine.

>Middle Belceanism (2018-2019)
While initially mostly focused on psychology, Belcea starts to consider metaphysical concepts more and proposes his physical-spiritual dualism similar to body-mind. Spiritual is the realm of ideas and physical is the material world; it's "spiritual" instead of "mind" because Belcea considers that it must lead to a connection with God. Naturally, masculinity is related to the spiritual realm and femininity with the physical plane.

>Late Belceanism (2020)
This is where Belcea explores uncharted territory, and I don't know if I understand it very well. He now focuses on systems: each system has an objective-center that commands subjective-peripheries. These systems may exist both in the physical plane (solar systems) or in the spiritual plane (religion, ideologies).

An objective-center keeps together its system and establishes harmony. For example, the state is an objective-center that describes the system, and the citizens are the subjective-peripherals that take orders from the state, but they can e.g. leave the nation and go somewhere else. The objective-center cannot do that because that's when the system collapses.

But as you can see, the objective-center has a wide perspective over the system, while the subjective participants mostly have a perception of themselves. If you, as a citizen, start to look outwards and experience the entire system and its harmony, you are exhibiting objectivity as a subjective observer. This is not limited to states: your own self is an objective-center which you don't fully know as your consciousness is just a subjective-peripheric of the system. However, as you start understanding your actions, your thoughts, your desires, and other subjective-peripheries, you start to gain an objective view of the system even if you cannot fully understand your own self (the objective-center). Similarly, the objective-center may be subjective relative to another system as your self may be affected in a larger system by a higher objective-center (could even be God)

Thus, in a system with an objective-center and subjective-peripherals, the subjective-periphery can look outwards and perceive itself as a part of a harmonious system (objectively) while the object-center is unknowable to anyone, including itself, and thus it is perceived differently by all entities (subjectively)

Thus, the objective-center and the subjective-periphery unite together to form a harmonious system that is both objective and subjective, resultant from the synthesis of the subjective and the objective.

>> No.19647305

>>19646183
God I remember the shit show this caused.

>> No.19647473

>>19647305
Obligatory first thread for newfags on Belceanism: the one that started it all:
>>15824974

>> No.19647484

>>19647289

Based

Is there an explicit philosophy of lolcow celebrityism like from video game streamers, icycalm, us politicians, etc? I need the qrd

>> No.19647562

I remember getting very angry at his "I didn't understand physics at all, but I flipped through a particle physics textbook for half an hour and misread some wikipedia articles, so here is the most retarded half-baked metaphysical interpretation of it that any stoned teenager could ever cough up" bullshit.
The guy would absolutely not accept that his book was anything less than a complete revolution in western thought. Astounding levels of conceit.

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Lol

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Good quote

>> No.19647607

>>19647597
jfc this is like the “music started in the 50s” YouTube comment meme

>> No.19647613

>>19647605
>prove god exists
>in the intro
Fucking based

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>>19647597
Good lord

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>>19647613
Since Horia is posting in this thread (obviously) maybe he can elaborate? Pretend he's a fan explaining it maybe? Surely pic related (from the intro) isn't it?

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>>19647634
So it is parody

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>> No.19647667

>>19646183
>Synthesizing the objective and subjective? That sounds interesting, I'll check out what's in it on amazon.
>it's a fucking diary written by some 2deep4u guy who got full of himself for being in gifted classes as a kid
>talks about being good at league of legends and how he's an economics expert because he reads books
>says he figured out some magical day-trading algorithm that, by its nature, isn't able to be explained, but also implies that the only reason actual investment professionals didn't respect it was because he didn't conform to social norms and was just too cool for them
>portrays being a non-committal, meandering fuckhead who has nothing to be proud of by 30 as a form of the tortured, rejected but well meaning genius who's just too far ahead of everyone else
>busts out MBTI like it's fucking magic and not a pseudo-scientific buzzfeed quiz draped in faux sophistication

I made it halfway through chapter 4 before closing it out of pure cringe. Who the fuck writes like this? Who spends this much time talking about himself and how special he is then titles the book "writing the future of modern philosophy"? Was this written ironically? I don't get it, it's like me from middle school was asked to write stream of consciousness style about shit he gleamed from edu-tainment youtube videos.

>> No.19647673

>>19647667
>sked to write stream of consciousness style about shit he gleamed from edu-tainment youtube videos
So you missed the parts about League of Legends

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>>19647673
[nvm]

>> No.19647691

>>19646183
why did op use such a tiny img?

>> No.19647699

>>19647634
>i i i
>me me me
Why do people write like this? It isn't hard to take a step back.

>> No.19647796

>>19647699
imagine 500+ pages of it =)

>> No.19648631

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>> No.19649111

bamp

>> No.19649135 [DELETED] 

is he working on a followup?

>> No.19649287

>>19647597
How can I claim this fantastic power for myself? Just sit still and think that I want to know something until I actually do know it. I'm going to sit here until I know the capital of Mars.

>> No.19650862

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bumping

>> No.19651911

bumperino

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>>19646414

Lmao at the passive, "unsure" language being used to assert such arrogant bullshit

Are there any big philosophers that right so effeminately? Mmmm, sort of...maybe? kind of like...perhaps...although I'm not sure....

>> No.19652352

BAMP

>> No.19653206

bumpin

>> No.19653770

Good lord belcea stop bumping your dumbass thread

>> No.19653789

>>19653770
>35 replies
>13 posters
Bump.

>> No.19653892

bampin

>> No.19653903

>>19653770
>hating Horia
filteredfags are onions

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>>19646414
He reminds me of Tooker, the /sci/ schizo.

>> No.19654018

>>19653903
>Posters haven’t increased
Good lord belcea stop bumping your dumbass thread

>> No.19654162

>>19652300
A wise man once said that people who believe in universals/absolutes are idiots

>> No.19654178

>>19654162
Just let the thread die, Belcea

>> No.19654223

>>19646183
I've never read a fucking book in my entire life why should I start now?
The only literature I read are 4chan posts.

>> No.19654231

>>19654162
I believe this.

>> No.19654239

>>19654012
The difference is that Belcea wouldn’t be able to complete an undergrad degree in mathematics

>> No.19654270

>>19654239
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>>19652300
>>19647699
>>19647691
filtered!

>> No.19654296

>>19654012
redpill me on tooker

>> No.19654366

bumping interesting thread

>> No.19654392

>>19654239

Nah

He probably has like a 110-120 IQ. I mean he can write in grammatically correct English

>> No.19654432

>>19654392
That's the biggest surprise of the whole thing. So much junk, so much embarrassing nonsense, such a dark hole of cringe—but it was grammatical. Idr any typos either. Maybe there was one there/their or something but it washes out. This leaves me wondering... if he paid someone to edit it. The horror.

>> No.19654658

bump!!!

>> No.19654703

>>19646201
cares.

>> No.19654891

loved it bumping

>> No.19655000

>>19647597
Genius... the subtle Shopenhauerian overtones made me shiver.

>> No.19655012

>>19647667
Filtered by Horia (PBUH)

>> No.19655033

>>19654012
Intriguing.

>> No.19655037

>>19654239
If he put an effort in he would be able to.

>> No.19655046

>>19655037
Horia's idea of effort is skimming a wikipedia article while he takes a shit.

>> No.19655047

>>19647289
>Feminine and masculine are modes of thinking: feminine is thinking focused on understanding and developing the physical world, and masculine thinking is focused on understanding and developing ideas. e.g. an engineer would engage in feminine activity while a philosopher would be masculine.
This is absolute retardation, unnecessary subversion.

>> No.19655253

BUMP

>> No.19655445

bumping

>> No.19655471

>>19646414
Based. OP confirmed as schizo.

>> No.19655748

>>19646817
sauce of pic related?

>> No.19656602

>>19655748
It's literally the book in OP, which you can buy on Amazon.

>> No.19657260

bump!!!!

>> No.19657270

>>19657260
Stop bumping your shitty book you low IQ faggot

>> No.19657274

>>19657270
>filtered
keep seething shill

>> No.19657394

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*AHEM*

Bump!

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19657445

Lmao I miss those threads

>> No.19657466

>>19646183
You must read it in its entirety. Truly a revolutionary artwork. Horia Belcea is a genius. And I'm saying this only after reading the free preview. This work is a journey. It is the journey of a Boy with more Ego than Knowledge who becomes a Man of Great Thought and Wisdom. It is a must read for any aspiring philosopher.

>> No.19657537

Bump!

>> No.19657540

This thread has more bumps than actual replies, nobody wants to read your diary Hosea

>> No.19657541

>>19657445
How much are they paying you to post this shit?

>> No.19657547

>>19657540
here come the soros shills
kys

>> No.19657548

>>19657541
What do you mean? They were hilarious!

>> No.19657553

>>19657548
>shilling this hard
I hope it's worth the shekels how much do you get paid ten cents a post? pathetic

>> No.19657565

>>19657553
>>19657547
How much is Belcea paying you to defend his book?

>> No.19657587

>>19657565
I bet he's smirking so hard right now reading this
>doesn't deny beign a soros shill
>andwers with a question
kys

>> No.19657601

bamp

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BUMP

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bumping

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bampin

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bumper

>> No.19658668

boomp

>> No.19659249

bump

>> No.19659605

is this a whole book about bumping shitty shill threads?

>> No.19659761

MODS

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>>19646414
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>>19659605

Sărutați-mă în fund, câini profani!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.19661576

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