Is philosophy dead?

[Anonymous No.19640257]

Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and the Bible essentially sum up the human condition.
Hegel? Opposites create a synthesis. Wow. Rousseau? General will. Wow.
One can sum up modernity by studying Freud, Nietzsche and Marx. Humans are biological creatures that rationalize our appetites by exploiting the environment around us and we use technology to help achieve this.
Philosophy is essentially the ramblings of people with disordered minds.

[Anonymous No.19640264]

>>19640257
>Philosophy is essentially the ramblings of people with disordered minds.
Wow.

[":hidehats:" No.19640270]

>>19640257
The internet is turning all incels into Turing Machines, some later graduate on to become transgender persons

[Anonymous No.19640273]

Real philosophy is found in the writings of men like Plato, Aristotle, Kant, or Frege.
Nothing disordered about that lot, now is there?

[Anonymous No.19640278]

>>19640257
Philosophy is the highest of all sciences, followed by mathematics. It will never be "dead" because it is the most important discipline. Even if somehow we manage to say everything there is to be said, we will still need to teach the important ideas to the next generation. There will still be a need to study philosophy and teach it.

[Anonymous No.19640291]

>>19640257
Falling into the Nietzsche-Schopenhauer duo trap means pretty much the end of any real philosophical thinking. Great individuals stand within a greater tradition.

Even if you disagree with Plato or Rousseau, the fact that you can't even understand them in the Op shows you haven't made an educated judgement.

[Anonymous No.19640292]

>>19640278
I'd say science is continuous with philosophy, and that logic is at the top, epistemology next, metaphysics, ontology, arguably language is up there somewhere, but yeah, I see what you mean.

[":hidehats:" No.19640296]

>>19640278
The philosophy of mathematics is essentially. Philosophy of language and psychology as well, that's how you turn people into Turing Machines that work against themselves, lose free will. The philosophy of telepathy is philosophy's best kept secret

[Anonymous No.19640304]

>>19640257
The madlad actually wrote a book like this? He is either insane or has the biggest balls in 1mil km radius.

[Anonymous No.19640305]

>>19640292
>placing logic above metaphysics
Holy cringe

[Anonymous No.19640320]

>>19640292
Logic is derived from ontology and ontology from metaphysics. Epistemology etc are derived from ontology as well.

[Anonymous No.19640334]

>>19640257
It's time for you to branch out and start with the Japanese

[Anonymous No.19640339]

>>19640257
According to your philosophy....

[Anonymous No.19640349]

>>19640334
Japanese? Those sutras are all Indian.

[Anonymous No.19640374]

>>19640305
>>19640320
For something to make sense it has to be logical, and to make any coherent statement whatever you need logic, simple as.
So you see, all knowledge is really subserviant to logic (Aristotle's Organon). Q.E.D.

[Anonymous No.19640378]

>>19640257
>most reviews are one-star "DON'T NORMALIZE PEDOPHILIA" npcs
>mfw do Americans really

[":hidehats:" No.19640391]

>>19640374
Most knowledge is absorbed and utilized by instinct and other unconscious processes

[Anonymous No.19640393]

>>19640257
Rationalization of desire is not philosophy. You cannot do philosophy unless you are willing to submit your desires to the truth.

[Anonymous No.19640399]

>>19640378
>npcs
Are you actually siding with him?

[":hidehats:" No.19640405]

>>19640393
Philosophy is precisely the utilization of desire to achieve ends that philosophy itself does not admit to

[Anonymous No.19640406]

>>19640378
People dont want to bring a slightest nuance into a topic they have strong opinions about, because they dont want to do psychical reordering that is necessary when you lose a highly emotionally invested position. Mix that with burgerism and you get brain damage.

[Anonymous No.19640407]

>>19640257
Inspired by another anon’s comments, but this kind of anti-complexity reductionism is evidence of a weak mind. How can one be so cynical and ignorant to declare X as “just y.” What people call “life” or “existence” is a totality too complex and fractalized to capture with a distinct philosophy or “sum up” in a comprehensive, concise manner. No one just “sums up” modernity or the human condition. These terms themselves are only grave simplifications/general categorization of aspects of life people recognize and experience. Formulation of truths follow from experience and since experience is seemingly inexhaustible, accompanying truths are inexhaustible as well throughout the ages. Obviously, profundity has a universal characteristic but there is always more wisdom to dispense as the “character” of the ages develops.

[Anonymous No.19640424]

>>19640292
>>19640374
How can logic be higher than truth? Do you think it doesn't matter if the premises are false so long as the logic is correct?

[Anonymous No.19640441]

>>19640406
It’s also outright disgust and wish to turn away.
Do YOU want to engage a debate about this?

[Anonymous No.19640444]

>>19640349
The sutras are but they are mostly relevant to Sino-Japanese schools of Buddhism and would be of interest to idealists, modernists, post-structuralists, etc., due to emphasis on analyzing experience, language, consciousness, etc.

[Anonymous No.19640449]

>>19640407
What are you getting at?

[Anonymous No.19640460]

>>19640449
>“Is philosophy dead?”
No. Stupid question. Inexhaustible new experiences—>new conditions of life—>new fundamental truths to make about these conditions.

[Anonymous No.19640468]

>>19640374
>For something to make sense it has to be logical, and to make any coherent statement whatever you need logic, simple as.
You have to be UNDERSTOOD. Aristotle's logic is a means of being understood. Simple as. There are other ways of being understood. People appeal to logic as if it were a sacred text or something but if we don't admit those as universally true why should we admit logic? You've just set up a particular that considers itself universal, and if you can't see past that you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.19640470]

>>19640424
Philosophy isn't truth, it's the search for truth, and the first method of philosophy, necessary to all it's branches, is and must always be logic.

[Anonymous No.19640474]

>>19640257
No. Feminism just started being a "thing". As a field or whatever it is definitely younger than 100 years.

[Anonymous No.19640478]

>>19640470
>muh logic
Ok, keep trying to "make sense" while the true philosophers revel in the throw of the dice

[Anonymous No.19640483]

>>19640474
Feminism in a recognizable contemporary form goes back to the French Revolution. Please do even the most minimal research before having an opinion, you fat stupid burger

[Anonymous No.19640488]

>le human condition
le cringe

[Anonymous No.19640496]

>>19640483
>some ramblings about women's rights
No.

[Anonymous No.19640500]

>>19640441
Yes, I value rational discourse more than blind, furious mob think, no matter how controversial the topic is.

[Anonymous No.19640507]

>>19640405
"philosophy" does not admit to anything. Philosophy is an ideal concept. The search for truth for the sake of truth, no matter where it leads.
That —usually modern— "philosophers" themselves don't admit to be engaging in rationalization of desire instead of a sincere search of truth is an indictment of their character/intellectual integrity, not of philosophy itself.
tl;dr coomers who seek to cope with their disordered sexual desires (e.g Focault) are not philosophers.

[Anonymous No.19640518]

>>19640460
Let me amend my words: new conditions of life leads to new fundamental questions and problems to pose about those conditions. Comprehensive truth is never quite reached, but new problems suppose new potential truths. It’s an inexhaustible search nevertheless.

[Anonymous No.19640520]

>>19640468
Logic provides certainty, by which from simple and self-evident truths we may derive higher truths that must be true.
> inb4 but where do these self-evident truths come from?
They're self evident, you just have to accept them or pretend like you don't for contrarian points.
Philosophy cannot answer all questions. If you don't know this by now you're no different then the IFLS fags who think science will help them "unlock all the secrets of the universe". Seethe, cope, dilate.
> there are no universal truths
sounds like a universal truth statement to me, lmao, eat shit anti-logic fag.

[":hidehats:" No.19640522]

>>19640507
Philosophy is routinely used to brainwash people, that is the praxis, language games, developed by philosophers, are used for such purposes.

[Anonymous No.19640528]

>>19640257
No, we just started passing the microphone to the rabble and started calling the philosophers rascist.

[Anonymous No.19640529]

>>19640470
Logic without truth (true premises) has no basis in reality and therefore leads to irrationality.

[Anonymous No.19640534]

>>19640522
>Philosophy is routinely used to brainwash people, that is the praxis, language games, developed by philosophers, are used for such purposes.
The word you are looking for is "sophist"

[Anonymous No.19640537]

Yes, philosophy is dead. So is art, culture, political development and history. Enjoy accessing the museum of humanity on the Internet and never seeing the world innovate again.

[Anonymous No.19640544]

>>19640520
kek, the IFLS crowd are a direct descendant of whatever priestly logomaniac philosophy you subscribe to, just a "heresy" from your pov. Gnash those teeth all you like there are opinions outside of your cave

[Anonymous No.19640551]

>>19640522
Yes, I'm sure we are freer than your regular Ancient peasant because of randomness.

[Anonymous No.19640555]

>>19640537
>i wish we were back in the old days where people made paintings and buildings and music that all looked the same.... that was REAL innovation

[Anonymous No.19640557]

>>19640537
Fisher-Fukuyama. A bold synthesis of anglo melancholy

[":hidehats:" No.19640558]

>>19640534
No,you don't get it. If it works it's not sophistry, it's science, as conceived by linguistic turn philosophers

[Anonymous No.19640564]

>>19640334
Fuck off with your proto-reddit fedora religion. Shinto is the religion of Japan.

[Anonymous No.19640567]

>>19640496
Well if you don't even know what feminism is why bring it up?

[Anonymous No.19640569]

>>19640529
>Logic without truth (true premises) has no basis in reality and therefore leads to irrationality.
Irrelevant, because logic in of itself is clearly where all philosophy must start if it hopes to get closer to truth.
False applications of logic can be shown to be erroneous by other means.
>reality
not the first concern of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19640570]

>>19640270
wdym, are you referring to Alan Turing's sexuality?