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A thread about e-readers and e-books. I got a kindle paper white for Christmas. 30 minutes later I learned that the greedy book publishers have pushed e-book pricess to absurd levels. Where do you find your books? I'm not above paying, but I'll be dammed if I buy an electronic copy of something that is cheaper to buy on actual paper.

>> No.19629471

>>19629440
libgen, z-library are my go to's
Use calibre (software) to convert the epub to kindle's gay-ass format.

>> No.19629473

Libgen
B-ok

>> No.19629633

>>19629471
>>19629473
Do they have modern books? I found Project Gutenberg, but they mostly have classics. Which I stocked up on.

>> No.19629645

>>19629471
>>19629473
I see that piracy is getting bigger again, with sci hub.

I wonder if normoids like you guys from /lit/ will be able to find the databases
Shall libgen or zlib falls

>> No.19629669

I have always pirated my books. But recently I downloaded some of those free books from Amazon, and I have to say, I fucking love having my highlights synced to goodreads. You can't do that with pirated books. It's a small details but fuck I love it.

I wish there was a way to get highlights from pirated books onto Goodreads, or some other similar site.

>> No.19629675

>>19629669
btw on /t/ there are a number of ebook collection torrents that are decent

>> No.19629702

>>19629645
I'd rather normaloids not go on #bookz and fuck it up. I don't think they could handle asking the bot for a list and downloading randomly based on the title.

>> No.19629801

>>19629645
Where should I go if libgen dies?

>> No.19629903

>>19629471
>kindle's gay-ass format
Which is it. I got that problem and opted for pdf conversion but if there's a better option I'll take it

>> No.19629966

>>19629702
I've tried #bookz a number of times and it seems dominated by trashy romance and sci-fi novels. If there's good stuff there, it's totally buried.

>> No.19630109

>>19629633
>Do they have modern books? I found Project Gutenberg, but they mostly have classics. Which I stocked up on.
Yes. Like with other media formats, the more popular something is the easier it is to pirate it. So best selling others are guarantied to be on z-library and libgen, niche authors might not be. You can even find the most popular authors on piratebay.

>> No.19630120

The new kindle update absolutely ruined the experience. The UI for some fucking reason is larger. Honestly this is making me avoid reading on my kindle. How do I downgrade?

>> No.19630191

>>19630120
What model? PW3 and older can be downgraded if you open the case, do some soldering and accessing the serial console
Otherwise you must wait until a new jailbreak method is discovered

>> No.19630305

>>19629633
>dO tHeY hAvE mOdErN bOoKs
Yes, they do Why don’t you just go look, it’s easier to find out than to ask here’s your stupid (you) annoying really

>> No.19630633

i also got a kindle paperwhite and want to jailbreak it for custom screensaver but it keeps deleting the update files even on airplane mode. 10th gen version 5.14.1 if it helps.

>> No.19630809

>>19629440
the e-readers at this point are all pretty much the same, we need a thread about how to use calibre/gutenberg/internetarchive to MAXIMIZE our information gathering.

In fact that could be a cool meta thread in and of itself. Literary data hoarders... what's the best way to sort, categorize, store your stuff.... and then how to read and comprehend it all too.

>> No.19630819

I pay around £6 on average for the books I read. It's not that bad. Books that are popular on reddit and goodreads typically go for 2 to 3 times that amount, but if you run into that issue, you probably have to reevaluate your taste.

>> No.19630826

Archive.org

>> No.19630877

>>19629471
How good is the conversion though? Does it leave many artifacts from EPUB to MOBI? i know pdf can be hit or miss.

>> No.19630927

protip, amazon will host your pirated shit under "personal documents" if you email it to your kindle.

>> No.19630968

>>19630809
>buy a kobo
>download any epub or pdf
>put them in your ereader
>???
>profit
no hard, just don't buy amazonshit with drm.

>> No.19631090

But do any of you have some hand charger or something similar in case of a blackout?

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>>19630633
Imagine buying amazon hardware ever. Fucking normies lmao.

>> No.19631331

>>19630877
convert to azw3 instead since its a newer format that supports more features from modern epubs (and is therefore less likely to run into issues when the epubs were made with some of thosenewer features) . i never found issues with the conversion but i also exclusively read fiction books with few footnotes or endnotes, so formatting beyond whats needed for paragraphs and headings never came up.

>> No.19631764

>>19631199
Got it as a gift, bro. Might as well make use of it.

>> No.19632226

can't believe the-eye is gone for good : (

>> No.19632404

>>19630968
Did I just get a lemon or something? I bought a Kobo Libra this past January and by the end of April the wifi just...stopped working. I can't get it to connect. Trying to sync it just drains the battery. The only way to load books now is to plug it into the computer and use the app and for some reason every time I do this it factory resets. I tried everything, I think the wifi chip just doesn't work anymore. Is this a common problem?

>> No.19632476

Why not do both.
I find that some paperbacks are cheaper in print. Or small press and only available as paper.
I've found that mostly academic titles are cheaper as ebook.
It's also nice I think to move between ebook and paper. Good for "your brain".
As anon said you can email PDFs to Kindle. Formatting sometimes screwy.

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>>19629440

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>>19632534
Custom screensavers.

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>>19632552
Minesweeper.

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>>19632552
Minesweeper.

>> No.19632578

>>19631090
How long are you expecting a power cut to last that a charger is even necessary?

>> No.19633196

>>19631331
Currently I still convert every book for my Paperwhite to mobi, since only with mobi the sync/bookmark function works in tandem with the kindle app on my Android. I'm not sure if things now changed with the new update, but using the sync/bookmark function wasn't supported for sideloaded books in amazones weird azw3 format.

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I just bought one of these. What am I in for.

>> No.19633221

>>19633203
I've just ordered one. The reviews seem to be consistently positive.

>> No.19633223

Does Amazon's X-Ray thing work when you pirate e-books and read them on Kindle? I mean, assuming they have that book available themselves.

>> No.19633228

>>19633221
Regret. Cancel it and get the new Paperwhite Gen11 for half the price and basically all the same features except physical buttons

>> No.19633260

>>19632571
based

>> No.19633264

>>19633228
>buy a Kindle
No thanks.

>> No.19633277

>>19633264
Oh I ... FUCK U
Yeah, queer.

>> No.19633283

>>19633228
Part of why I'm getting the libre 2 is the shape. I'm sick of ereaders that are shaped like tablets. I need an edge to hold on to.

>> No.19633296

>>19633283
Yeah I thought that was a Kindle Oasis because of the physical buttons, and it's really not worth getting anymore because of the new Paperwhite. I have a cover on my PW that opens like a book would so it feels pretty natural to hold it like that, or even one-handed like you might hold a mass market paperback when you need your other hand to masturbate

>> No.19633302

>>19633296
I don't want to own a Kindle because I'm not a faggot.

>> No.19633314
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I've had a kindle touch for close to 7 or 8 years (maybe 10, I don't remember exactly) and I've never had any real problems with it. PDFs and things where formatting beyond page breaks, indentations, stanzas, etc. suck, but I like it for novel or just books that are supposed to be read linearly.
Maybe if you could get one used for like 20 bucks it would be great but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it outside of that specific case. I paid the new 100 bucks for it near launch.

>> No.19633348

>>19629966
It's mostly for genereshit and new releases, some popsci and other nonfiction. Most people read purely for pleasure and with little concern for the contents other than the novelty a given book can bring so it works out well enough as a first course for those kinds of things. PDF repositories for specific topics are more your speed but they tend to be protected for good reasons, as I'm sure you've found out.

>> No.19633357

>>19633302
Lol, cope poor. It’s great for reading novels, and the new PW11 has blue filter so it doesn’t make it hard to sleep!

>> No.19633358

>>19631764
Yes, like I said, normies buying trash

>> No.19633367

>>19633358
what do you use and why is it better than kindle? i can’t think of a single thing i’d want added desu

>> No.19633382

>>19629440
local library should let you take out e-books

>> No.19633384

>>19633357
>cope poor
Kindles are cheaper than rival brands.

>> No.19633405

>>19633367
Kobo clara hd. And I wont write down why its better, if you dont know by now, that means you are some sort of newfag american normie who buys proprietary nigger hardware that cant read the one format that 90% of books on the internet are using. That is retarded. The only thing you can cope upon is that its cheap but to that I say that giving a fuck about saving like 40 dollars on an objectively worse device that you will use several hours a week over the next several years is retard shit.

>he who has only ever seen a pond, has no concept of the vastness of the ocean
At the end of the day its all about ease of use and convenience and amazon hardware and software is locked down trash that no one should ever buy. Sure the oasis seems nice but its software is still shit. If you really want to know why, go on /g/ for a bit and learn something, then maybe you will leave your ignorabt normie-dom.

>> No.19633519

>>19633405
You typed all that cope but didn’t even list a single reason I should consider your perspective. I couldn’t give a fuck less really, these are fairly straightforward devices, it’s not like I gave it as much thought as I would for choosing a laptop or phone or something. The Paperwhite 11 works fine for me, and some easily converted format means jack shit. It’s not like either devices are going to be hugely better than the competition, they’re simple e-readers. Fag

>> No.19633531

>>19633519
Yeah sure, stay ignorant, your kind usually does. Thats why I didnt want to explain it to you. Enjoy your amazing device.
You monkey-brained nigger.

>> No.19633538

>>19629440
Library and z-lib

I also buy books from independent bookstore because I want them to exist.

>> No.19633542

>>19629471
this

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Your fortune: The poster above you has been very very naughty![/spoiler]

>> No.19633558

>>19633531
I’d make you my bitch irl kid. I’d teach you how to deepthroat

>> No.19633587

>>19633558
Lmao. You're a funny guy.

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>>19629903
>>19630877
https://cloudconvert.com/

>> No.19633679

>>19630968
You can literally do the same thing with a kindle, anon.

>> No.19633728

Bought a kindle for myself last year for the sole purpose of pirating books. It let's me try lots of new things without worrying about space or money, I can save money for nicer editions of books I really like and it's super convenient to take books to college or while traveling without worrying about damage or perfect lighting conditions, it's a godsend reading on the bus with these things in the evening time. Ended up reading some longer books in both physical and digital at the same time which although awkward at times finding my page when reading different editions was a fun way to get through them. My favourite feature as a brainlet is being able to click on a word to get the dictionary definition instantly
I think I will always prefer physical books but there are lots of advantages to e-readers especially if you are into pirating. I think a hybrid approach to physical and digital will be the best for most people

>> No.19633738

>>19632534
>>19632552
>>19632571
How and any chess apps usable?

>> No.19633742

>>19633679
brand loyalty is some retarded shit. these kobo people are so proud of drinking pepsi instead of coke that they larp like it's the only platform that allows for book piracy.

>> No.19633749

>>19633646
Conversion can ruin a digital book. If your pdf has footnotes good luck reading it after conversion. I only had bad experiences with converting stuff. If libgen doesnt have the epub and only the pdf I straight up go buy the epub version somewhere. Paid up to 12€ for an epub so far. I'd rather die than read a converted pdf that has missing sentences and other bullshit going on. Had to buy Milan Kunderas Slowness epub because the epub file on ligen had sentences missing. Fuck that. Thats why I dont get all the amazon niggers and their stockholm syndrome. When almost all files are epubs online, how is it a viable option to convert every single thing you want to read, except pdf and we all know how hard their rendering suck on kindle.

>> No.19633787

>>19633742
I would understand it if Kobo was actually making/contributing to an open source platform, as >>19633405 implies, but Kobo's hardware and platform are just as proprietary as Amazon's (though supposedly Kobo doesn't phone-home as much).

But really, I guess I just shrug at this. I'm not invested in the argument one way or the other as 95% of the reading I do is in physical books anyways.

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>>19633749
nigga the basic kindle is cheap as fuck and it runs pdf easily and Ive read dozens of epub to mobi converted books with no problem whatsoever. Amazon is a faggot tier company but the basic kindle is a money saver and I rob amazon a ton of money by pirating instead of buying from them.

>> No.19633912

>>19633749
>Conversion can ruin a digital book. If your pdf has footnotes
>Thats why I dont get all the amazon niggers and their stockholm syndrome
>When almost all files are epubs online, how is it a viable option to convert every single thing
you're completely fucking tech illiterate lol. conversion between pdf and epub/mobi/azw/etc is damaging because the former are fixed-layout documents meant for printing and the latter are html-based dynamic reflow formats. but epub and azw (modern kindle format) are 99% the same thing, your ebook is basically a html "website" in a glorified zip file and the formats are just different containers for a bunch of html documents. conversion between them is straightforward and i've never seen it produce any issues in a calibre library of hundreds of books.

so not only is conversion "viable," it's barely noticeable - people just drop epubs into calibre, hit "send to device" and the epub is turned into a kindle format automatically in the background. they don't have "stockholm syndrome," they just don't see a problem because there isn't one. you're just all confused.

>> No.19634312

>>19633787
What if your ereader is not able to read a format that 95% of books hosted online use. How much sense would such a device make to you?

Kobos are based on linux and you can install several alternative OS's on it, you can even dual boot them and on the clara you can expand storage and it can fucking read epubs.
Its not really a difference like cola to pepsi, more like apple to android. But the moment amazon includes epub my biggest argument will have vanished.

>> No.19634344

>>19633912
You make a lot of good points. Calibre sure is a great tool, without it kindles would be pure trash, that much is true. But you do make good points, I guess keep manifesting some sort of irrational hatred for people that buy these devices for some reason. Thanks to your post I think I might be able to ease off a little.

>> No.19634372

>>19634344
But actuall my hatred is not irrational. Retards keep giving money to a company that uses consumer unfriendly practices and only after market solutions make their devices usable. People should not support this shit and people in niche online spaces used to know that and act accordingly. But post 2016 election its all fake and gay. Thx for ruining everything. These spaces are dead. Enjoy your aids everybody.

>> No.19634375

>>19630877
Calibre's native conversion is usually okay, if it isn't, Amazon has the Kindle Previewer application, which is the in-house software used to convert self published shit to Kindle format. If neither of those work, find a different download, or learn to get real good at regex.

PDF is hit or miss because most pdf files are just images of the book, which the converter has to actually read in order to convert to text format, which obviously leads to issues. Some pdfs have the full text already stored as metadata and so convert nicely, but that takes a human actually adding the text, so most pdfs are just scans.

>> No.19634396

>>19634375
And to be clear, I'd buy some cheap chinese shit reader if I was going to do it again, and you should be getting a 10in screen at least if you want a decent experience reading pdfs.

>> No.19634615

>>19633405
Goddamn, you are one seething, mentally handicapped coping poorfag, lmao.
>nooooo i have to convert my pirated books to a different format in order to continue pirating reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
lolololo

>> No.19634775

>>19629801
pretty sure it dying will have a lot to do with questions like that

>> No.19634836

I used to hate justified text, now I love it. AMA.

>> No.19635280

>>19634836
Huh

>> No.19635727

Can I read pretty much anything on a Kobo without buying anything or be limited by proprietary software? I might pull the trigger with the Clara HD, they are selling it at 109 dlls currently ¿will it last me a long time 5 years+?

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19635877

Used to have this until in glitched on me, and went slow.

>> No.19635926

>>19630305
Have sex retard

>> No.19636057

>>19633853
I've been doing the same

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how do i get rid of this gay lock screen guys?
>paperwhite
>ad ver
>airplane mode
>all libgen to mobi via calibre

>> No.19636184

I have an issue with kindle app for pc, can anybody help?

I have never owned a kindle device, the 3 or 4 times I downloaded an ebook from amazon I used the Kindle for PC app.

The other day I saw on amazon an offer for a free 1984 ebook, I downloaded it and tried to open the kindle app, but it didn't run. I uninstalled it and installed another version (Not the latest one - I have win 7 which is not compatible with the latest one).

The program asks me account and password, I enter them, and then it asks me "for reasons of security" to enter the password again, and a captcha. I have tried at least 100 times, it seems I simply cannot get it right. By googling, it seems other have had issues with amazon captchas as well.

I tried on another PC (old as mine, win 7 as well), download not-latest-version, same issues with captchas.

Amazon tells me that I can use the "kindle cloud reader", fuck that, I want a digital copy on PC

Any idea on how to solve this?

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Do you guys know how to turn pdfs into good looking epubs?

I tried converting with Calibre and Sigil but it turned out terribly.

>> No.19636244

I got an old kindle, and want to upgrade to the remarkable 2 tablet.

What's the thoughts on that? I'm a artist too and the pressure sensitive sketching is really an attractive feature to someone as a career artist like me.

>> No.19636281

Yif ye cannae kinnnit I say fuckoff. A simple prop be it aye?

>>19636244
Prove you aren't a shill by telling me why the kikePad pro isn't the best tablet for such shite and then tell me why it's a dumpster fire compared to a desktop and chinktablet. Sorry I have to do this to you. If'n ye hae a mac yr too retarded t'kinnit.

>> No.19636337

>>19636281
God I fucking hate retards like you

>> No.19636389

>>19636166
i think you ahve to pay to remove ads

>> No.19636415

>>19636337
Least ye kin what I say friend.

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>>19629440

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>>19629471
I use libgen.rs and downloaded all the Delphi Classics MOBI files. I’m set for the foreseeable future and might even buy a few Delphi Classics books from Amazon.

>> No.19636620

>>19633728
>Ended up reading some longer books in both physical and digital at the same time which although awkward at times finding my page when reading different editions was a fun way to get through them.
This, it's what I'm doing right now with Atlas Shrugged since I have to read it for a class next semester.

>> No.19636661

>>19629440
Unironically, buying the Kindle Paperwhite (11. generation) was the best investment in my educational life. But I had to sent back a few Kindle Paperwhites because of screen problem, so yeah... The Kindle Paperwhite is god tier, if you are lucky and don't get a faulty one (or at least Amazon doesn't ban you after refunding back the 7th Kindle because of quality problems...)

This is also why I wouldn't recommend anyone a Kindle because the quality control is disgusting and you really risk your Amazon account before you have a decent one. But if you have a decent one, you literally won the lottery because the Kindle is awesome.

>Where do you find your books?
The biggest "secrets" how to find good Kindle books:
>if the book is older than 100 years (so no copyright anymore)
You can get for around $1 180 top classical books in the "The Harvard Classics & Fiction Collection".
There are a lot of other compilations which cost less than a $1, so yeah. If you put around $10 on the table, you have enough top tier books for the next decade (you can also just download them for free from the internet if you really don't want to spent money)
>if the copyright still exist
Then the question is simply "do you really want the book?"
Sometimes you find differences between a "all in one price" and buying all of the books individually. Sometime the one option is cheaper than the other and vice versa.

The only real advantage of the Kindle is that you you are completely in the Amazon eco system. But if you want to stay with your Kindle, here are some tips
>make sure you have the newest Kindle Paperwhite model of the 11th generation (bigger screen and blue filter options with higher pixel density)
>if you have the ad version either write Amazon that you wish that they remove the ads (if you are a cheap guy) with some excuse like "I'm a loyal customer and want to move my library to the Kindle" or just pay for the ad removal. It's really worth it removing the ads
>The Kindle Paperwhite Kids is literally a normal Paperwhite with a protection case for free and no ads, also including a much better guarantee. Never buy the normal Kindle and always buy the Kindle Paperwhite Kids if you can
>DON'T BUY THE SIGNITURE EDITION of the newest Kindle Paperwhite. The only difference between the Kids version and the Signature edition is that the Signature edition has a little bit more storage and a light sensor. Bigger storage is useless because you will rather buy a new ereader before you fill 8 GB of space with books. The light sensor is completely useless because if you move your head and the light is above your head, it's just a mess (btw the common brightness is 16 the light sensor recommends, so if you put your Kindle to 16, you have more or less the sensor experience...). Outside of those two nothing burger, the Kids edition has a free protective case (already put on while the Kindle Kids ships) AND much better guarantee by Amazon.

>> No.19637180

>>19633358
>imagine trying to be an elitist douche on a Mongolian chant singing forum
Do you only drink the finest of bottles waters instead of poorfag fridge water?

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>>19629440
>the greedy book publishers have pushed e-book pricess to absurd levels.
most kindle books aren't more than 15 dollars, usually around 10. well known books are usually around 8 to 9, classics are significantly cheaper, but most aren't more than 15. people always bring up this point and i never know what they're talking about because in my experience it's not true. are you poor? do you consider $15 bucks for an entirely written and edited book a lot? that's essentially the price of a fast food dinner.

>> No.19637332

god i fucking hate the kindle so fucking much

>> No.19637465

What are the pros and cons between a kobo and a kindle paperwhite? What about the boox readers?

>> No.19637490

posting in a brainlet thread

>> No.19637504

>>19637311
Zoomers have been conditioned to think owning a digital copy of something is real.
>Buy the actual physical book
>d/l digital copy for free

>> No.19637539

>>19637504
controversial take but i prefer not owning them. i really only buy shit on my kindle that i don't feel the need to own as an object. this is also why i'm confused about complaints about the pricing because often times they're so cheap it's not really a second thought. i'll always have the information in my head, and if it's a book i need i'll actually go out and buy it. this feels similar to objecting to the fact that you don't own a movie after going to the movie theater, except you get the kindle books for longer. you don't go to the movies expecting to own a personal copy forever. you go for the experience. i view kindle books the same way. when you exist in a shitty society you need to make informed choices in this way as a consumer, and in my eyes spending less money on an easier to read format of an afterthought of a book is better than owning a book that becomes a paperweight. if you view it in this way, through the volume of books you're reading, it makes more sense.

>> No.19638036

>>19633260
Thanks.
>>19633738
I haven't tried any chess apps yet.
here's the link
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320564

>> No.19638404

How easy is it to convert pdf's to a more useful (also smaller) format like epub? My books folder is hundreds of gigabytes in size aa the vast majority of it is pdf because they pre-date the invention ebooks.

>> No.19638431

I have a kobo and almost never buy stuff physically anymore. Wish I had gotten the libra h2o instead of the clara hd, though. Bigger screen for manga, water resistance (just in case), and physical buttons would be nice. I only buy a physical copy if I can't get a decently formatted EPUB

>> No.19638555

>>19637311
>do you consider $15 bucks for an entirely written and edited book a lot?
yes
>that's essentially the price of a fast food dinner.
wtf? Fast food costs that much?
I don't eat fast food anyway

>> No.19638707

>>19635877
That's the one that I use. It's slow and low res but with koreader the actual reading process is surprisingly smooth. Any manga or pdf's make it miserable though.

>> No.19638711

>>19638555
For multiple people, maybe. In EU 15e would feel 3 people with combo meals and no discounts. Maybe it's different in burgerland

>> No.19638784

>>19638711
Median combo meal prices have risen to $8.50 and we have other "luxury" white girl chains like Chipotle and Panera that have $15 meals. Fast food hasn't been cheap in almost a decade.

>> No.19638856

Does anyone read manga on their machines? I'm wondering if a eink device with Android would be worth it.
Want to use tachiyomi on it but don't know if it'll affect battery life as well as making reading actual books a shit experience.

>> No.19638902

>>19638856
Yes, I use a Boox Max.
The battery life will only suffer if you keep WiFi on all the time, otherwise it will last a week.
I don't think the epub experience is worse than on Kobo and you have the benefit of accessing all sorts of ebook stores.

>> No.19639128
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19639128

I love my Note Air 2 bros

>> No.19639551

>>19637311
I'd consider £15 to be a lot for a physical book.

>> No.19639553

>buying anything from amazon
shiggy

>> No.19639771

>>19639551
Same
I spent around 20€ euros for a quite rare book I had been looking for for a while, that's probably the most I've payed for a book, except maybe a greek dictionary or something like that.

>> No.19639846

>>19639128
Mine's supposed to get here tomorrow, I'm excited.

>> No.19640735

>>19638707
>Any manga
Reading Manga on my kobo Libra 2 is actually quite nice

>> No.19640873

>>19634836
I find justified text disruptive. It splits words on line breaks. Left aligned is much more fluid, especially on those small e-reader displays.

>> No.19640880

>>19640735
I've been thinking of getting Libra 2 myself. Are there any bad things about it that bother you or make you regret the purchase?

>> No.19641278

>>19639846
It's really nice. Make sure to set up your dictionaries in neoreader, that was the feature that made me fall in love with it, along with the screen itself. Just highlight the word and it's looked up.
Dunno if that's a common feature, but I love it

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How's the lighting on Paperwhite 1 compared to subsequent generations?

Any notable difference? Same question for lower screen res.

Is Paperwhite 1 defective in any way compared to later versions? Thanks. Basically my question is how big of a difference is there between Paperwhite 1 and 3.

>> No.19641492

>>19636620
What class is making you read that? Is it a normal part of literature course curricular?

>> No.19641605

>>19640880
I have a Libra 1 and there isn't anything I can think of that bothers me about it

>> No.19641664
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Why is there so much anti-Kindle propaganda in this thread?

>> No.19641686

>>19629440
my kindle just came in today (the regular $50 one)
im pretty excited to start using it. i really just wanted something more convenient that i could use in bed so i could stop using this little book light thing i have. currently converting all the stuff ive got and emailing it over.

>> No.19641714

>>19632404
>w-why does my Kobo Libra Ubuntu GNU Linux 2.3 Unix crack chinaware fail after just a year of use?

Should have bought the Kindle used from eBay, Chad

>> No.19641722

>>19641664
Little customisation
Bad support for manga
Refuses to play epub
No SD card slot
Ads

>> No.19641723

>>19640880
I don't like that the power button is on the back, no glaring problems, It does what it's supposed to.

>> No.19641745

>>19641664
anything that isnt out of the box customizable or forces you to use proprietary software is automatically bad in 4chans eyes. which, yea its kind of annoying not being able to just directly drag and drop books into it, but considering 99% of everyones digital library here is pirated, i think its a small price to pay.
this thing is small, cheap, and convenient. i dont need it to fucking render full scale 3d models, just to put words on a screen, and its great for that.

>> No.19641750

>>19641722
Is there any e-reader that supports sd cards?

>> No.19641756

>>19641722
>Little customisation
Wrong. What are you referring to in particular?
>Bad support for manga
How so? I grabbed a few Mango from the free Kindle Unlimited trial I have and they looked fine…
>Refuses to play epub
Easily converted (with increased functionality).
>No SD card slot
True enough, not that I’ll ever need one.
>Ads
Optional, Ad-supported devices cost less. You can remove them whenever you want by bugging Amazon and paying the difference.

>> No.19641777

>>19641756
>you can remove ads at anytime by getting on your knees and begging the amazon pajeet.

>> No.19641819

>>19641777
The ability to pay less for a device in exchange for it displaying some inconsequential ads that you never see while reading isn’t the worst thing in the world fgt

>> No.19642586

>>19641819

The two devices are the exact same and cost the same to produce, what you are paying is a retard tax for being a good little bitch to Bezos.

>> No.19642771

>>19642586
You’re adding complexity where there doesn’t need to be any. The version with ads costs less, the version without ads costs more. If you want to consider base material and production and labor costs and inflation on everything you buy then you’ll probably realize pretty quickly that we’re getting fucked over on almost all of our purchases. It’s possible the ad-supported model is the “real” price, but it’s basically arbitrary by that point already so who really cares. It didn’t cost significantly more or less than any other e-reader anyway.

Incidentally, most of the ads I’ve seen (for 1 second before swiping off the lock screen to get back to the book) have been for the next book in the series or a similar book. It’s not like they’re advertising clothing or some shit to me. Not as of yet anyway.

>> No.19642842

>>19637465
Onyx Boox Nova 2 here, best ereader for the price.

>> No.19642847

>>19642771
wow, thanks for telling me you are a bitch that will cope with a company treating you like a bitch or probably anyone for that matter

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Whenever I do e-read I use an amazon kindle model D01200.
Is there really any reason to upgrade other than space?

>> No.19643140

>>19641750
Mobiscribe, Pocketbook and Likebook have them for most models.
Some Kobo models like the Clara allow swapping the internal SD card.
Boox Note X has one as well.

>> No.19643564

>>19642847
Thanks for telling me you love cock and having cock in your esophagus spilling c down into your stomach and then you eat the cum out of your colostomy bag and then puke it in your moms mouth

>> No.19644086

>>19637311
You pay for ebooks!!!!!????!!!!

>> No.19644112

>>19644086
Shhhh, we need them to keep buying them so they keep making them for us to pirate :—3

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>>19639128
Low ppi screen and too big for casual reading.

>> No.19644307

>>19644297
>too big for casual reading.
10" is smaller than most pocket books.
The ppi may be lower but it still has the same resolution as the 7.8" displays.

>> No.19644314

>>19633228
You Amazon shills really aren't subtle

>> No.19644322

>>19644307
What do you read on it? pdf magazines?

>> No.19644365

>>19629645
Woah, look at mr supergenius who knows about databases

>> No.19644486

>>19644314
>le amazon is bad
>phoneposted from my googlephone

>> No.19644491

>>19629702
People still use IRC? Wew

>> No.19644533

>>19636213
Just read it pdf format

>> No.19644535

>>19644322
I use a 13" for everything.

>> No.19644599

I currently have the original paperwhite, I want the oasis, but I'm not upgrading until my model fails, and I worry that the oasis wont fit into my pocket and that the screen will be be too brittle.

>> No.19644604

>>19644599
Just queerious but why Oasis over the new Papercracker?

>> No.19644661

>>19644604
water resistance, bigger better screen, physical buttons.
Now looking at the newest paperwhite I think I'll buy that if my current paperwhite dies, it has water resistance and warm light.

>> No.19644943

>>19644297
I would argue than anything UNDER 10 inches is too small for casual reading. Like shit, staring at that tiny screen and letters is only going to make your eyes hurt. The ppi isn't too low at all.

>> No.19644949

>>19644661
Mobi fag

>> No.19644957

I read on my phone even though I have an iPad

>> No.19645025

>>19637311
because I can buy a real paperback book used for like 5 bucks most of the time. I am not paying 15 dollars for an infinitely copyable product that has close to zero reproduction cost of digital data that is comprised of the most basic deliverable of an internet connection that pre mass internet lines could handle without any problems.

>> No.19645033

>>19637539
you could just download the book and not waste money.

>> No.19645042

>>19643050
Ive been wanting an e reader that runs Android so I can use tachiyomi to sync Manga and stuff but other than that no.
I have the same (or similar) model and it works fine enough. PDFs will always stink on an eReader so my one gripe with it is unsolvable, sadly.

>> No.19645059

>>19645042
>PDFs will always stink on an eReader so my one gripe with it is unsolvable, sadly.
Get a 10" or 13" model. The problems with pdf stem from small displays and weak processors and are perfectly solvable.

>> No.19645073

>>19645059
what about refresh rate of e-ink displays? eReaders are comfy because they have text reflowing with linear content but for anything with fixed formatting panning and zooming to read is a slog.

>> No.19645081

>>19644949
Epub fag

>> No.19645094

>>19645073
There's not much reason to zoom on a 13" display but the Boox models come with extra speed modes that makes it more usuable if you want to.

>> No.19645212

>>19641492
Economic Globalization: Leadership and the Transnational Mindset
And I don't think most of the literature classes at my university would require it, especially considering that my literature classes freshman year were on Harry Potter and its cultural impact.

>> No.19645480

>>19645081
Yeah ahah, this loser is using a format that almost all books on libgen are in what an idiot.

>> No.19645584

I stopped using my Kindle Paperwhite. My phone's SOT is good enough that I can read whole day if I use dark mode.
It's always with me when I'm bored and want to read something. One less thing to lug around. I have to change pages more often, but that's not a big deal.

>> No.19645742

>>19630968
pdf drains my kobo clara's battery fast as hell
thought it got fucked up but no, only pdfs do that

>> No.19646529

Got a Oasis this summer after my Paperwhite started to slow down after 7 years of use and I have to say the comfort is definitely worth it if you can afford it.

>> No.19646621

>>19644949
>mobi
>not azw3

>> No.19646883

>>19645073
>for anything with fixed formatting panning and zooming to read is a slog
Oh yeah trying to read a graphic novel on the D01200 is so bad it's funny.

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Love that I can side load books so easily, this way I get all the books i wanna read but I don't have to actually support authors and their """""job"""""

>> No.19648496

>>19629440
Why an e-reader instead of smartphone?

>> No.19648660

>>19644943
I just increase the font size lol

>> No.19649366

>>19644949
>>19645081
calibre simple as

>> No.19649388

anyone have kindle voyage?

>> No.19649389

>>19633749
Please upload the epubs you buy to libgen

>> No.19649394

guys stop supporting amazon, stop buying kindle devices.
Kobo are at least as good, more hackable.

>> No.19649400

>>19649394
>more hackable
what is the benefit of hacking an ereader?

>> No.19649406

>>19634372
I bought a Paperwhite 3rd gen second hand years ago and still use it
I get what you're saying though
I think maybe people are jaded about it now. Remember when Google motto was 'dont be evil,' and then became what it is today? Disillusionment about the viability of grassroots movements, about every facet of society and human interaction really

>> No.19649419

>>19643564
Based

>> No.19649456

>>19649400
you can install different reader apps like koreader/plato, fonts, dictionaries

>> No.19649462

>>19648496
Because reading on a phone or tablet is an inferior experience for me
In the past I'd use my phone or a tablet to read books that were difficult for me to get and I never enjoyed it, maybe you have a different experience and that's great
>>19641664
No idea
I think it's mostly people baiting each other at this point
I downloaded calibre day one and have not used anything related to amazon since, I'm ok clicking one more button in order to send epubs to my kindle which seems to be something people here aren't willing to do based on the posts I've seen here
Going by what people post here it's as if you couldn't read pdfs or epubs or whatever other format that is relevant on a kindle or that it's extremely difficult and tedious

>> No.19649569

>>19649462
What does Kindle offer over other brands?
It always appears that people just get Kindle because they don't know anything else. Especially with overpriced crap like the Oasis.

>> No.19649571

>>19649569
Ease of availability
Cheap

>> No.19649617

>>19636166
text amazon support to remove it. They did it for me for free.

>> No.19649627

>>19649571
>Ease of availability
You can get other readers on Amazon as well.

>> No.19649644

>>19643050
>Is there really any reason to upgrade other than space?
higher PPI
larger screen on the new paperwhite
frontlight, including warm light mode

up to you if that stuff is worth it

>> No.19649649

>>19648496
E-readers have much better screens for reading. E-ink screens are easier on the eyes than backlit LED screen. The screens are non-glossy so they reduce glare. E-readers have far longer battery life

>> No.19649650

>>19649627
Yeah but not in the volume that kindles are sold at least not in my country
Prices of kobo's used here are way higher than the price of used paperwhites and they're far rarer

>> No.19649671

>>19649569
More reliable hardware.

>> No.19649679

>>19649671
That's just unproven bullshit.

>> No.19649810

>>19648660
Yeah but then you need to turn the pages at a more rapid pace, the smaller your reader is

>> No.19649815

>>19649671
o i am laffin

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>>19649644
>frontlight, including warm light mode
This is gonna sound retarded but does the light of the new kindles not defeat the purpose of kindles being easier on the eyes than a normal tablet/laptop screen? Or is the light designed around that?

>> No.19649825

>>19649644
>>19649821
nvm just read an article differentiating front lights and backlights.

>> No.19649828

>>19647471
>posts jewish glow
why

>> No.19650067

>>19636184

https://www.willus.com/k2pdfopt/

>> No.19650775

>>19641447
I replaced my paperwhite 1 with a new gen on christmas because the battery on mine was busted after 10 years of use, and the lighting is really much better, and so is having this much more storage. The letters also look clearer thanks to higher ppi, pages turn instantly and a few other nice qol things.

>> No.19650928

>>19636415
"Ken", not "kin", you weird phonetic pseudo-scotsman. Irvine Welsh writes in dialect and is very respected and successful. He also writes good stories though, not shitposts on an elaborate Captcha testbed.

>> No.19651074

>>19629440

I got a Kobo for my birthday years ago. Maybe 6 or 7 inch screen diagonal, guessing. Battery lasts literally forever. Has wifi and a decent version of Firefox, but that's an unsupported feature. Reads books great, dunno what to say about it, it's competing with paper, so it's pretty much won that battle by default.

Screen is probably years-ago maybe second-gen screen? No idea. OK I looked it up, third-gen Kobo Touch 6" 800x600 which is more res that you could ever need to read a book. The "pixels" have that odd mottled quality that's appealing compared to LCD. The real issue is refresh, how clean is it, and how long does it take, and what about a "full" refresh it does now and then?

It's easy on the eye, stores a million books... does everything. Last software update a few years ago seems to have it ticking smoothly. Really what else is there? What do you need? They're all good.

I wouldn't have an Amazon because seriously fuck all that "you don't own your own hardware" bullshit. Unless they're selling them below cost then fuck all the control they want over it. Also if it's LCD then you may as well get a proper tablet. You need E-ink.

Hey did you see those 14-colour e-ink displays? Very odd.

Any ebook reader is great. Tiny library, easy to read as paper! When they invented e-ink it was revolutionary. Genius. Haven't heard much from the competing technologies though like the one that used electric repulsion to make a tiny chamber of coloured oil go flat. Could've been beautiful and bright and low-power, and fast enough for video. Anyway. Fuck calling each other faggots and threatening rape you big clowns. Just enjoy your ebooks and tell us where to pirate them, because I don't think anything that's purely data is worth money.

>> No.19651091

>>19651074
nice blogpost grandpa

>> No.19651101

>>19651091
no need to be rude, son

>> No.19651116

>>19651091
Oh, you young'ins with yer electric books and yer plastic shooes... show some damn respect!

No word of a lie as I write this I am very high on crack, kidda. Among other stuff. So shut up and let Grampa have his ramble. His mind wanders. Very quickly right now.

Why does the damn Captcha only use like 5 letters and 3 numbers out of the whole alphabet anyway? What's wrong with the rest of the letters? Fuck it. Still beats damn traffic-light spotting for Google.

>> No.19651748

>>19649828
she may be jewish but she's still my mommy :)

>> No.19651756

>>19629903
Go for MOBI.

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>>19629903