/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19597442]

>what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.
Do you agree /lit/?

[Anonymous No.19597445]

No

[Anonymous No.19597562]

>>19597442
Sounds gay bro. You like seeing the strength and "beauty" of make men? Seems hella gay man I dunno about that, miss me with that gay dude on dude shit bruh

[Anonymous No.19598183]

>>19597442
Yes I deadlifted 5x5 with 150 kg today and I feel smarter

[Anonymous No.19600142]

>>19597442
gymcels are embarrasing

[Anonymous No.19600156]

>>19597442
Low-key agree. It made a difference in my life. Not anything crazy, just being in full control of my body and having slightly above average in every category of athleticism.

[Anonymous No.19600165]

>>19597442
στοπ φατ σηαμινγ

[Anonymous No.19600179]

>I saw inside his cloak and caught fire, and could possess myself no longer; and I thought none was so wise in love-matters as Cydias, who in speaking of a beautiful boy recommends someone to "beware of coming as a fawn before the lion, and being seized as his portion of flesh"; for I too felt I had fallen a prey to some such creature.
Do you agree /lit/?

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !Ry9.MAY90A No.19600968]

>>19597445
>>19597562
>>19600142


LA FLÁCIDA SUBHUMANIDAD...

[Anonymous No.19600988]

>>19600968
>rei is a lifter
Very based

[Anonymous No.19601147]

>>19597442
Who said this, Aristotle? It is not something Socrates or Plato would say.

[Anonymous No.19601151]

I don't really understand why RWBB always try to cite Greek philosophers to support their lifestyle because the prevailing belief among the Greeks from Plato on was that the body is evil and needs to be escaped. I am myself a bodybuilder but I just don't know why RWBBs do this.

[Anonymous No.19601153]

>>19597562
How is it gay to admire yourself?
Thats what the quote is. Admiring what tribulations you put yourself through.

[Anonymous No.19601176]

>>19597442
Men used to happily admire and support athletic development in each other.
So sad that this admiration is now seen as exclusively homo.
Rather than as a brotherhood of all men reaching physical potential.

[Anonymous No.19601197]

>>19601176
It was more homo in ancient Greece than it is today, anon

[Anonymous No.19601210]

>>19597442
I work out at the library

[Anonymous No.19601231]

>>19601176
The only people who find it "homo" are insecure themselves as they cannot appreciate the hard work or artistic nature of the male body. I've commented on male aesthetics numerous times to family/friends and they'd never call me "gay" knowing my success with women.
Zyzz used to say he would get "checked out" much more by men than women, which makes sense since lots of guys do admire the hard work.

[Anonymous No.19601236]

>>19600968
dont you weigh like 45kg bro?

[Anonymous No.19601239]

>>19601231
Sorry bro, I like admiring the female body.

[Anonymous No.19601245]

>>19601239
What's your point? Are you unable to separate admiration and attraction?

[Anonymous No.19601249]

>>19601176
There are two sides to that though. Athletic and physical excellence divorced of any sexual aspect is clearly a thing, but it also attracts homosexual attention.

I think we dont actually have a working theory of what homosexuality in humans is at all, psychologically. I find gay culture somewhat distasteful but I also understand that there have been very great gay artists, Michaelangelo, Proust, James, etc.

I think gay men are kind of misguided. Like it's not the right way to express their feelings. I don't think they're totally wrong for it but the entire way gay culture works out, there is something bad about it. People are generally very fucked up so I dont judge the gays too harshly, would be hypocritical of me, but I can't really see the phenomenon as positive. I do see that they still have a connection to what is good, they aren't just wholly perverse, but it doesnt really make sense.

I guess for me I see gays as slightly tragic. Not evil, but like they have been given an affliction.

[Anonymous No.19601262]

>>19601249
What exactly is wrong with an erotic attraction to males though, anon? Mishima argues that homosexuals are the only people who seem to really admire male beauty. Even women are less sensitive to it.

[Anonymous No.19601263]

>>19601245
Do you admire their cocks as well?

[Anonymous No.19601281]

>>19601262
I have a vague feeling it's not right; that's all I have. I don't hate gays and dont care if they continue doing their thing. Women and men always have wrong too in their relations. To really love someone you have to see them as a child you would just protect I guess.

[Anonymous No.19601336]

>>19601263
You can appreciate a nude male body. Including "their cocks".
But not because "their cocks" are big or whatever, simply a part of the male body.

[Anonymous No.19601350]

In the Renaissance statues of nude males often signified an ideal of purity, good behaviour, to aspire to.
The cultivation of an athletic body was a dedication to clean living and "moral" behaviour.
Therefore: the athletic male body stands for a type of admirable noble state of mind manifest in the appearance of the body.

[Anonymous No.19601356]

>>19601336
What if the cock is feminine?

[Anonymous No.19601357]

>>19601350
Why do they look so lewd then

[Anonymous No.19601362]

>>19601350

[Anonymous No.19601393]

>>19601362
that is pretty lewd

[Anonymous No.19601583]

>>19601393
Top kek

[Anonymous No.19601645]

>>19601350
Nah, it was because there was no porn and people needed something to jerk off to.

[Anonymous No.19601699]

Gymrat Threadly Reminder

So far we have /fit/
>BAP
>Taleb

Vs.

/antifit/
>Plato
>Socrates
>Xenophon
>Homer
>Christ
>Julius Caesar
>Seneca
>Archimedes
>Herder
>Hegel
>Jünger
>Ted
>Baudrilard
>Ellul
>Heidegger
>Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.19601703]

>>19597442
Socrates was and will always be a satyr-faced faggot. If you want real opinions read Meditations.

[Anonymous No.19601723]

>>19601699
>/antifit/
>>Plato
>>Socrates
>>Xenophon
>>Homer
>>Julius Caesar

[Anonymous No.19601743]

For it is silly, my dear Lucilius, and no way for an educated man to behave, to spend one’s time exercising the biceps, broadening the neck and shoulders and developing the lungs. Even when the extra feeding has produced gratifying results and you’ve put on a lot of muscle, you’ll never match the strength or the weight of a prize ox.
>So keep the body within bounds as much as you can and make room for the spirit. Devotees of physical culture have to put up with a lot of nuisances. There are exercises, in the first place, the toil involved which drains the vitality and renders it unfit for concentration or the more demanding sort of studies.
>Next there is the heavy feeding, which dulls mental acuteness. Then there is the taking on as coaches of the worst brand of slave, persons who divide their time between putting on lotion and putting down liquor, whose idea of a well spent day consists of getting up a good sweat and then replacing the fluid lost with plenty of drink, all the to be absorbed on a dry stomach.
>Drinking and perspiring -- it's the life of a dyspeptic!

bonus material:
>Writers who have left us a record of life in ancient Rome tell us that it was just their arms and legs, which of course they dirtied working, that people washed every day, bathing all over only once a week on market day. ‘Obviously,’ someone will comment, ‘there must have been times when they were positively disgusting.’ And what do you think they stank of? I’ll tell you – of hard soldiering, of hard work, of all that goes to make up a man.

>Everyone’s pages ride along with their faces smeared with cream in case the sun or the cold should spoil their delicate complexions; one is ashamed if there is no member of one’s retinue of boys whose healthy cheeks call for protection with cosmetics. With all such people you should avoid associating.
t. seneca

[Anonymous No.19601748]

>>19601723
>In cold fact, you have failed to achieve the finest kind of song. You organize your state as though it were a military camp rather than a society of people who have settled in towns, and you keep your young fellows together like a herd of colts at grass. Not a man among you takes his own colt and drags him, furiously protesting, away from the rest of the herd; you never put him in the hands of a private groom, and train him by combing him down and stroking him. You entirely fail to lavish proper care on an education which will turn him out not merely a good soldier but a capable administrator of a state and its towns. Such a man is, as we said early on, a better fighter than those of Tyrtaeus, precisely because he does not value courage as the principal element in virtue: he consistently relegates it to fourth place wherever he finds it, whether in the individual or the state.

[Anonymous No.19601764]

>>19601723
>"Because the second degree—that is, a fine, regular form—properly constitutes beauty, it can be a good herald inasmuch as it promises an equally regular spirit, one that is perhaps placid, like a calm sea on a summer’s evening, gentle, incapable of great passion, be it good or ill; in short, it promises a tranquil, balanced, and orderly heart and mind. The reasons for this I gave earlier, but what they promise is admittedly nothing more than a hint, and just as a certain writer calls this regular form, if it be not enlivened by spiritual charms, a statuesque beauty, so the regularity of the spirit, which is supposed to accompany it, can likewise be the disposition to all that is beautiful, but often it remains mere disposition. Just as outwardly this regularity is intended only for the eye, so inwardly it also belongs, if not among the mute, then at least among the quiet charms that will never disturb, but seldom enliven, a spiritual pleasure."

>"Perhaps this is the appropriate juncture to mention that the greatest men have mostly possessed irregular features, because the passion that elevated them to greatness also caused them to develop early. Conversely, those handsome and suave gentlemen whose minds are filled with the portrait of their bodies are usually born only to convey, nurture, and delight in the thought “My, how beautiful I am!” Julius Caesar may always have carried a picture of Venus with him, whose son he claimed to be; but he will have shown it mostly to ladies. In the Roman senate and in the three hundred battles that made him great, he surely never thought that he was a beautiful man—but of course after his triumphs he did so all the more."

[Anonymous No.19601786]

>>19601262
Women are aroused by themselves feeling beautiful. they're not sensitive to beauty in men at all unless they're looking for themselves in their mate.
its one thing to be in good shape, it's another to beautify yourself or other men and this is inescapably homosexual as its feminine, despite the body in question being male.
women hunt for beauty in themselves, so they can experience it as brought about by the other, men hunt for beauty in the other so they can experience the other.
women cant go too much against their nature and its readily apparent. an example is when I was a line cook at a bdubs in a college town, it had just opened so it had all kinds of hot ass college girls walking around in leggings. their asses were a central, vital part of my life. their asses were a central, vital part of their lives as well. manass meant nothing to them and they would consider that gay if it was implied otherwise.
the ancients knew this, however their def of homosexuality was to passively receive, to take on the female role.
they didn't live under a sociopolitical rubric similar to ours. there, citizenship was limited to men of a certain type. women were intrinsic others no matter what. the notion of them as fleshless social ciphers taking part in a 'secular' relationship where labels such as LGBT could be applied was incomprehensible to them. the notion that men find women beautiful ergo women find men beautiful just never occurred because women were wholly different creatures.
tl;dr they were gay by our definition, not by their own

[Anonymous No.19601807]

>>19601245
he looks shocking. terrible posture, skinny, clearly just does curls and crunches lolll

[Anonymous No.19601813]

>>19601807
Post physique if you’re going to be throwing this much dirt on that mans work

[Anonymous No.19601815]

>>19601807
Post body

[Anonymous No.19601818]

>>19601357
>>19601362
Hot

[Anonymous No.19601831]

apollo. but understand ok worshiping humans as gods is idolatry God created mankind

[Anonymous No.19602289]

>>19601147
Is this sarcasm? It's literally Socrates as written by Plato.

[Anonymous No.19602320]

>your ancient Greek waifu will never be flesh and bone

[Anonymous No.19602338]

>all these newbs who will never be well rounded citizens
Sad

[Anonymous No.19602348]

>>19602320
naww, you're just not pious enough bro

[Anonymous No.19602358]

>>19597442

No. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever coming to terms with his own absolute impotence. The Western idea of procrastination is very curious: consider a road across which there is something that one wants but the traffic is such that one can never get across without dying, between wanting to cross and deciding against crossing, which best fits the diagnosis of procrastination? It is the FORMER which is the secondary, lying, parasitic, etc. thought preventing the realization of the latter. Childhood fantasy of potence are indefinitely prolonged by attempting to traverse them into the reality of potence, which does not exist, and are only properly traversed by one readily entering the reality of impotence.

[Anonymous No.19602366]

>>19597442 (OP)

No. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever coming to terms with his own absolute impotence. The Western idea of procrastination is very curious: consider a road across which there is something that one wants but the traffic is such that one can never get across without dying, between wanting to cross and deciding against crossing, which best fits the diagnosis of procrastination? It is the FORMER which is the secondary, lying, parasitic, etc. thought preventing the realization of the latter. Childhood fantasies of potence are indefinitely prolonged by attempting to traverse them into the reality of potence, which does not exist, and are only properly traversed by one readily entering the reality of impotence.

[Anonymous No.19602384]

>>19601197
that's just propaganda.

[Anonymous No.19602391]

>>19597442
This entire thread is nerd fattasses and homos coping about being out of shape. Kill yourself, all of you, I’ll do it for you if you’re to pussy to finish the job.

[Anonymous No.19602392]

>>19601262
Nothing, you can see a man and say it's beautiful and not be gay at the same time.

[Anonymous No.19602446]

>>19602384
Start with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.19602477]

>>19602446
"le greeks were gay xd"
don't care about what a couple of degenerate aristocratic diddlers did back in the day, they are just as degenerate today
>inb4 he posts that one screenshot of how all the greek armed forces were gay

[Anonymous No.19602500]

>>19602477
OK? Doesn't change the fact it's true.

[Anonymous No.19602504]

>>19602391
did you snatch that pic from your match on grindr?

[Anonymous No.19602573]

>>19602504
Stay coping dicklet

[Anonymous No.19602582]

>>19602500
Not to the extent to which it is implied, every person that utters this notion is a complete hedonistic faggot that never even had value for older cultures and civilizations in the first place

[Anonymous No.19602592]

>>19602582
>abloo abloo why don't the writings of the ancients match my modern morals
It's you who is the faggot desu

[Anonymous No.19602750]

>>19602582
>Not to the extent to which it is implied
Are you kidding anon. The pederasty is so entrenched one can hardly avoid bumping into it wherever one looks

[Anonymous No.19602844]

>>19597442
Yes. However that does not mean that you have to spend your entire life in the gym. You just need to break out of the modern, sedentary lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.19602858]

My goal body is pic rel. Muscular, lean, and mobile.

[Anonymous No.19602873]

>>19597442
yes, not becoming swole is just as cringe as not being class conscious or being a genre fic pleb, it's something you snap out of and ideally never start in the first place. but some people get stuck in their ignorance forever, so you end up with chuds who simp for megacorps, the YA circuit, and pencil armed losers who think they know anything about life. sad to see.

[Anonymous No.19602947]

>>19602320
>Gr**k girls
Gimme' a Roman Matron or Scythian warrior who actually have spines rather than some dainty flower who faints at her husband going off to war, then fucking Chad or Sappho.

[Anonymous No.19602976]

I'm Greek and this thread is pretty gay. I respect the male form the way I might admire a cathedral: something that took immense amount of work and whose heights I'd like to embody myself one day.

[Anonymous No.19602986]

>>19602873
he said without any self-awareness.

[Anonymous No.19603012]

>>19602858
Have you ever seen that statue IRL?
It's even more beautiful

[this kills the gymcel No.19603028]

>Strength of body is nobility in beasts of burden, strength of character is nobility in men.

- Democritus, literally the smartest man in Ancient Greece

[Anonymous No.19603037]

>>19603028
The dude was called democretin lmao

[Anonymous No.19603175]

>>19597445
>>19600142
>>19603028
Absolute subhumans you lot are. How well you are able to think depends on your physical strength and health. Physiognomy is not a meme - even the old Greek homos understood this. This is the long version, and a better translation:

>Because our city does not practise military training in public, (7) that is no reason for neglecting it in private, but rather a reason for making it a foremost care. For be you assured that there is no contest of any sort, nor any transaction, in which you will be the worse off for being well prepared in body; and in fact there is nothing which men do for which the body is not a help. In every demand, therefore, which can be laid upon the body it is much better that it should be in the best condition; since, even where you might imagine the claims upon the body to be slightest—in the act of reasoning—who does not know the terrible stumbles which are made through being out of health? It suffices to say that forgetfulness, and despondency, and moroseness, and madness take occasion often of ill-health to visit the intellectual faculties so severely as to expel all knowledge (8) from the brain. But he who is in good bodily plight has large security. He runs no risk of incurring any such catastrophe through ill-health at any rate; he has the expectation rather that a good habit must procure consequences the opposite to those of an evil habit; (9) and surely to this end there is nothing a man in his senses would not undergo.... It is a base thing for a man to wax old in careless self-neglect before he has lifted up his eyes and seen what manner of man he was made to be, in the full perfection of bodily strength and beauty. But these glories are withheld from him who is guilty of self-neglect, for they are not wont to blaze forth unbidden. (10)

[Anonymous No.19603211]

>>19602986
cope

[Anonymous No.19603294]

>>19603211
prove you're swole or admit you're LARPing faggot.

[Anonymous No.19603357]

>>19600968
>tripfag
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.19603425]

>>19603175
yeah, how many publications do you have?

[Anonymous No.19603452]

>>19603294
>no u!

[Anonymous No.19603797]

>>19603175
This is just an argument for being healthy, not for being a grotesque bodybuilder.

[Anonymous No.19603951]

>>19603797
Yes, no one wants you to turn into Dorian Yates nigga, just get some strength and cardio play a sport, it’s important for the body and mind, stop fucking coping

[Anonymous No.19603970]

>>19601699
Some of those anti fit are quite fit man, Socrates and Plato both, Ceaser being the war mongerer he was was not a fool, fitness was intsrumental to his success

[Anonymous No.19603990]

>>19603028
I was an unironic onions boy until I started lifting, it has developed my character greatly, stop quoting a guy and actually lift a dumbell for once nigga please just do it you lazy ass bitch literally just grabbed a quote of the internet instead of living the life yourself and assessing. Lifting developed my character and gave me confidence and a sense of dignity, it also unironcially changed my political standings because I learned to not immediately hate strength

[Anonymous No.19603999]

>>19603990
What are your politics now. Do you like men

[Anonymous No.19604017]

>>19603999
>hehehehe like le fitness = to when le greeks were gay xdddd
You speak with quips like a marvel character, commit toaster bath

[Anonymous No.19604079]

>>19604017
Insecure?

[Anonymous No.19604114]

>>19604079
No, just tired of the same repeated joke because everyone in this thread has literally nothing else to say. Nothing you said was clever at any capacity

[Anonymous No.19604116]

>>19604114
My questions were actually genuine

[Anonymous No.19604132]

>>19603175
>how well you think depends on physical strength
Then why are all gym rats brain dead, the only knowledge they have is results of testosterone studies?

[Anonymous No.19604139]

>>19603990
>changed political standing because muh strength bro
How absolutely pathetic. Why should anyone listen to you?

[Anonymous No.19604171]

>>19597442
Where is this from?

[Anonymous No.19604183]

>>19604116
The answer is no, I don’t see men in an erotic way. I’ve come to respect man’s ability to change oneself, the mental clarity and happiness with knowing that you are physically fit and well equipped to defend yourself and your beliefs. I went from a full on brainwashed Neo-lib BLM kneeling onions to someone that despises the pathetic, infantilizing nature of those type of movements, I kind of despise most “social” movements in general now I’m pretty right wing now I’d say but I’ve only delved a little bit into the literature so I haven’t put my foot down quite yet. I started working during middle school when I was generally uninvolved with politics and such so all the changes I felt and realized were purely the result of boxing and lifting

[Anonymous No.19604194]

>>19604139
Not sure what you mean, a change in physical state definitely can contribute to a new perspective, that’s not hard to imagine. Have you ever worked out or played sport for an extended amount of time? Then you would know

[Anonymous No.19604199]

>>19602289
It's Socrates as written by Xenophon, midwit. You'll find it in Memorabilia/Apomnemoneumata.

That said Plato was also ripped, "Platon" is literally a nickname meaning "broad-shouldered", which he probably got in his youth from his ability and enthusiasm for wrestling.

[Anonymous No.19604216]

>>19604171
Xenophon, Memorabilia, 3.12:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0208:book=3:chapter=12

[Anonymous No.19604221]

>>19603425
10, though I don't see how that's relevant.
>>19603797
Which is not an argument anyone made.
>>19604132
They're not, as exemplified by the guy being quoted - a war hero.
>>19604171
It's from Xenophons Memorobilia where Socrates runs into his old student Epigenes, who has turned into a fat fucking degenerate, and proceeds to assblast him.

[Anonymous No.19604247]

Healthy mind in healthy body, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.19604249]

>>19604194
If simply lighting weights was what it took for you to stop being a faggot sjw leftist cuck, you will always remain a faggot sjw leftist cuck.

[Anonymous No.19604261]

>>19604221
Modern body builders eat meat only diets and believe there are "deadly toxins" in vegetables, organically grown or not.
They are fucking stupid. Juicing shrinks your balls and your brain. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.19604301]

>>19604249
Lifting made me realize how fulfilling it is to make the best of yourself and how pathetic and weak social movements often encourage people to be. It was my gateway drug since I finally used some type of will power for once, I’m not sure how this is a bad thing, if you are perhaps accusing me of being a grifter, I’ll tell you that all of my peers and my smartest most educated family members with phds, have grifted towards socialism and cringe breadtubers. I have not

[Anonymous No.19604312]

>>19604261
A lot of people that are into fitness agree that modern bodybuilding is fucking atrocious, me included I think they look hideous and their lifestyles are awful, someone in this thread mentioned the flawed concept of lifting just for the sake of lifting and not putting it to use, I agree with that fully, bodybuilding is exactly the opposite of that and that’s why they look so disgusting

[Anonymous No.19604381]

>>19601699
>[starting strength] says very clearly that your training is heavily dependant on training the mind and nervous system before training the body
it has been a while since I've read starting strength but the book hammers home the point that training the nervous system comes with training the body and everything in the book relates back to this, from the massive emphasis on correct form to the specific exercises chosen and the amount of sets/reps you should be doing, I never once got the impression that the book suggests training the nervous system before the body or that these two things can even be divorced. as far as training the mind goes I don't remember the book having anything to say about this beyond the obvious stuff like 'lifting heavy teaches you hard work' or advice for rank beginners that have never touched a barbell and have fundamentally flawed ideas about weight lifting or gaining muscle

[Anonymous No.19604413]

>>19603990
Apparently you triggered the piss out of some weakling coper with this, but actually there's nothing surprising in it. Those who hate beauty and strength and reject them as ideals and foundations for happiness are, as a rule, those who do not have them; a coping strategy, sour grapes. Once you pulled yourself out of this mire you understood that the pure ideals are also the correct, timeless ones and that irony and its attendant sophistries are contemptible attempts to hide from one's own failure and, worse, one's superiors: those who have what one does not. All ideologies of envy are narcissistic, small-natured, and shrink the soul.

[Anonymous No.19604458]

>>19597442
it's very easy to be healthy and have a good looking body
people who disagree are lazy/ugly/stupid

[Anonymous No.19604490]

>>19604413
fully agree man, this thread is reeking of cope

[Anonymous No.19604695]

>>19601197
Only during late stage Athenian democracy. Don't kid yourself. No one likes homos.

[Anonymous No.19604920]

no.
what's the source?

[Anonymous No.19605509]

>>19601786
Interesting. Any book recs on this?

[Anonymous No.19605551]

>>19597442
gym whiteboard-core

[Anonymous No.19605678]

>>19604413
>nooo yoire just coping!
talk about cope lmfao
>noo I can't be wrong I spend all this time at the gym it needs to be beneficial to me other than just health and strength!!!
lifting weights isn't hard bro. you aren't special. the millions of people at the gun right now are no different to you.
what those gum rats can't do though is read philosophy. stay blown the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.19605731]

>>19605509
The one I'm writing. Tho I'm not much of a writer. I am a physicist who's obsessed w/ beauty in women. Not an 'incel', nor a simp- but extremely antisocial. I went to film school on a scholarship, hoping to explore this artistic obsession but was faced w/ a lot of politics.
Screenplays are the easiest form for me to write in as I must be some kind of savant w/ limited abilities re: concatenation.

[Anonymous No.19605737]

>>19602947
>then fucks Chad or Sappho
You made me laugh anon

[Anonymous No.19605750]

>>19605509
The closest I can think of is 'Flight From Woman' by Karl Stern.
The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar is really stark and reality as presented to a woman (they'll do nothing to make it better, just make it feel/look/seem better)
Works of Helene Deutsch, Power of Sexual Surrender (not as cringey as it sounds)

[Anonymous No.19606201]

>>19605678
Jesus Christ is this nigga really saying
>I workout at the library
It’s clear you have an inherent hatred for getting stronger and working out, believe it or not you can both workout and be well read it’s not one way or the other, you will never be a top intellectual either, you are in no way “””special”””, but that doesn’t stop you does it? It shouldn’t stop you the process of working and learning something is a virtuous one and the same goes for working out, the 2 aren’t mutually exclusive stop being a fucking faggot I’ll slam you on the lockers next time I see you bitchboy

[Anonymous No.19606215]

>>19604183
Doesn’t boxing reduce grey matter and cause dementia

[Anonymous No.19606226]

>>19604695
>Only during late stage Athenian democracy. Don't kid yourself. No one likes homos.
That’s not true anon. Pederasty was already entrenched in many cities by the Archaic Age, long before Classical Greece.

[Anonymous No.19606274]

>>19606215
It depends on how often you spar, how often you get hit on the head, and with what intensity. Unless you are planning on going pro and dedicating your entire life to the sport, it’s not worth sparring often, a couple of good spars and fights with the boys every few months is good enough and gives your brain a solid amount of time to recover minimizing any drastic injury. There’s also pro boxers that walked away completely fine.
The conclusion is that if you are looking to do it for a hobby spend most of your time training without fighting directly, jump rope, a bit of weightlifting shadow boxing and such. This will minimize most damage, almost everything good in life has a certain amount of risk to it, I for one think it’s a good trade to experience the freedom of violence every once in a while in a properly paced manner. My goal with boxing isn’t going pro, I box because fighting every once in a while is good for the soul

[Anonymous No.19606322]

Exercise is essential but /fit/fags get insufferable about it. The vegans of the fitness world, making a religion out of a healthy choice

[Anonymous No.19606628]

>>19600968
Cum genius

[Anonymous No.19606754]

>>19600968
Read Boethius

[Anonymous No.19606835]

>>19601764
>>19601748
>>19601723
I'm going to assume all 3 of these posts were made by the same poster proving this one >>19601699 to be the clinically retarded post that it is.

[Anonymous No.19606866]

>>19606322
Vegans aren't making a healthy choice though. /fit/ threads become insufferable because there's always a bunch of posters in them coping super hard about their choice to have a less functional and aesthetic body. Actually, a more apt comparison would be between vegan posters and people who overly-justify their choice to not workout because both are taking a personal choice and trying to sell it as healthy when it is objectively the unhealthier choice.

[Anonymous No.19606870]

>>19598183
>Deadlifts
>150kg
Are you 50kg in weight?

If you are heavier, id advise not chipping in on men's conversations. Actually if you only weigh 50kg, dont interrupt men talking

[Anonymous No.19607073]

>>19597442
Being healthy feels good.
People are nicer to attractive people.
If you can manage it, good for you.
Not being healthy/attractive isn’t “a disgrace”, and people that look down on ugly/dumpy/unkempt people have mental health problems/are fundamentally antisocial.

[Anonymous No.19607123]

>way to heavy and low center of mass
I would absolutely destroy your “prime male physique” guy in a match of tennis so maybe lanklet, but specifically trained me is superior he should drop the whey and dumbbells and start doing more cardio.

[Anonymous No.19607418]

>>19601151
i think you should probably read more of the greeks, and this has nothing to do with right wing shit (which I assume it's what you mean by RWBB), fucking kill yourself obsessed faggot

[Anonymous No.19607441]

>>19602391
you look like shit, you should first lose your skinnyfat physique and get some muscle before posting your pics and embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.19607447]

>>19603797
no one in this thread, least of all the quote in the OP, is arguing for being a roided bodybuilder, you insecure homo.

[Anonymous No.19607462]

>>19604249
lifting weights is just a part of it, you are missing the bigger picture which involve discipline, willpower, and just generally changing yourself to be healthier and not a slave to the lifestyle the globohomo wants you to have

[Anonymous No.19607468]

>>19605678
you know you can lift and also read philosophy right? they are not mutually exclusive but you seem to be hung up on some jock/nerd dichotomy probably due to being bullied by jocks in high school.

[Anonymous No.19607478]

>>19601176
Yes, as men who cooperate are dangerous. Better to associate male friendship to something unsavoury.

[Anonymous No.19607533]

>>19606870
Lmao stop believing what you read on fit you tool

Im 6,3 and weigh a 100 kg, I just don’t deadlift often

[Anonymous No.19607535]

>>19607478
>Yes, as men who cooperate are dangerous. Better to associate male friendship to something unsavoury.
If you buy into the idea that romantic relationships between men are unsavoury then you have already been pacified. Pausanias says that tyrants fear eros between men.

[Anonymous No.19607703]

>>19600165
κεκ

[Anonymous No.19608587]

Literally my dream physique

[Anonymous No.19609746]

>>19607441
>elbows too pointy 0/10

[N E M O . !!GgBWHLRiayD No.19610104]

>This makes hypertrophic morons want to lift heavier objects in incremental manner, thus weakening & uglifying their body, whilst sincerely believing that they are optimally realizing their physical capability.

Through noble sapience, and combative virtue, the body should integrate within itself the strength & mobility of the animal, just as the mind should attain to the noetic clarity & lucidity of the angel.

[N E M O . !!GgBWHLRiayD No.19610286]

>>19610104
>...the body should integrate within itself the [somatic] strength & mobility of the animal...

[Anonymous No.19610399]

>>19597442
This board is such a meme

[Anonymous No.19611314]

>>19608587
Roid body

[Anonymous No.19611471]

>>19601703
You're comparing the father of western philosophy to a literal diary written near-exclusively as a means to cope with fear of death.