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19573607 No.19573607 [Reply] [Original]

tfw youve only ever romantically pursued Young-Girls and are a Young-Girl yourself

examples of books that do not depict women realistically would be all of Dostoyevskys masterworks

>> No.19573624

>>19573607
good literature doesn't depict women, it ignores them and their opinions

>> No.19573630 [DELETED] 

>>19573607

At least you picked up on the fact that "Young-Girls" are all those, male or female, who willingly go along with commodifying themselves in modern society. Happy to remain plugged into the matrix, as it were. Pic related is a Young-Girl. His highest ambition is to go back to sleep and pretend to be, of all things? An actor.

Still, as the authors said themselves, it's trash theory. They try to set up a thing which is supposed to make us dislike capitalism, but when it's all done we only hate women even more than we already did at the outset. I wonder if Fulvia Carnevale had any input into this particular piece.

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>>19573607 (OP)

At least you picked up on the fact that "Young-Girls" are all those, male or female, who willingly go along with commodifying themselves in modern society. Happy to remain plugged into the matrix, as it were. Pic related is a Young-Girl. His highest ambition is to go back to sleep and pretend to be, of all things? An actor.

Still, as the authors said themselves, it's trash theory. They try to set up a thing which is supposed to make us dislike capitalism, but when it's all done we only hate women even more than we already did at the outset. I wonder if Fulvia Carnevale had any input into this particular piece.

>> No.19573657

>>19573645
Adds a hilarious new way of reading this list https://rateyourmusic.com/list/lovesick/preliminary-materials-for-a-theory-of-the-young-girl/ (for those of you who are on RYM)

>> No.19573695

>>19573645
i interpreted that passage as
>as rigorous theory, what we’re presenting is trash
>but the nature of what we’re expositing would make any serious treatment prey to what Young-Girls are best at marginalizing

the book doesn’t make me hate women, just makes me be horrified at this Young-Girl creature it is describing

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>> No.19573722

women should never have been granted access to the written word

>> No.19573724

>>19573695

Then you've misread it. To read it correctly is to read it contrary to the authors' intentions. "Phenomenology of Everyday Life" is an earlier vignette in Tiqqun 1 where the narrator bloviates about how absurd it is that he's in a bakery and how he and the q.t. clerk girl are play-acting as customer and cashier. She and the manager guy are like uhh okay whatever dude and then the narrator spills his spaghetti and does a few more pretentious paragraphs to lick his wounds. Then he publishes the damn thing.

The authors were thirsty and/or just had a breakup, and this inflected their "theory".

>> No.19573730

>>19573695

>NOOOO STOP BEING SATISFIED WITH CAPITALISM, DRINKING STARBUCKS, MAKING WHITE CHILDREN AND POSTING ON FACEBOOK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>19573607
Weininger - Sex and Character

>> No.19573743

>>19573724
schizophrenic post

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>>19573607

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serious answer

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also this one

>> No.19574264

>>19574258
good pick

>> No.19574303

>>19573724
Good post, anon. Nice to see someone thinking critically.

>> No.19574329

Shirley jackson
joyce carol oats
flannery oconor
short fiction authors that do a good job summing up women.

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>> No.19574910

>>19573624
Fpbp

>>19573607
If you're trying to pickup children OP, read Lolita. If you want to understand women, and how they should be treated, read the Arabian classic 1001 Nights.

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>>19573607
>examples of books that do not depict women realistically would be all of Dostoyevskys masterworks
That's what you read Tolstoy for, start with pic.

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>>19573607
Sons and Lovers. Covers married women, motherhood, and different types of young girlfriends.

>> No.19575011

Thomas Hardy - Jude the Obscure

>> No.19575016

East of Eden

>> No.19575086

Anna Karenina

>> No.19575091

>>19573730
nazis aren't what they used to be lol

>>19573607
madame bovary

>> No.19575113

The Blithedale Romance

>> No.19575840

Real life depicts women realistically, which is to say prosaically, as women have no ideal counterpart. Women are entirely unideal, unaesthetic, unliterary. They naturalize and re-absorb any flight into the ideal and bring it back down to matter. The better ones are perfectly self-conscious about this, more accepting of corporeality, mortality, and life's natural cycles than the most philosophically (ideally) materialistic and prosaic man could ever be. The worst women are the ones who have been taught against their own will and against everybody else's better judgement to pretend (even to themselves) that they have a potentially stable ideal aspect.

Even when women are involved in ecstatic sects of religions, of which they usually make up the majority (beguines, lay mystics, cult followers), they are still material about their mysticism. The fact that they can make that paradox a reality is a testament to how stupid it would be to try to "teach them philosophy."

>> No.19576498

>>19575016

>> No.19576567

>>19573607
ywnbaw

>> No.19576599

Jane Austen

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>>19573705
Amazing book

>> No.19576773

I've started reading Sylvia Plath's Glass Bell and main character almost vomits after a guy shorter than her, and the proceeds to breeze through life and get everything handed to her, so it's pretty realistic so far

>> No.19576808

>>19573607
I would give you book recs on realistic portrayals of women but I'm a loser incel that never talks to women, sits at home browsing 4chan and reading all day so I don't even know what a realistic woman looks like.

>> No.19576847

>>19576636
Every man needs to read this before turning 18

>> No.19577007

>>19573607
my dairy desu

>> No.19577020

>>19573705
>>19576636
thank you for posting

>> No.19577042

>>19573607
You must read books written by women and learn to psychoanalyze.

>> No.19577058

>>19573607
idk every time I read a book with a women I just change it to a man

>> No.19577922

>>19577042
this

>> No.19578396

>>19577042
I will never read a woman, bad literature is intellectual poison

>> No.19578803

>>19576636
>le poor Man vs le evil W*man
brb, checking the early life section of this Mr. Vilar.
its all so tiring.

>> No.19579853

>>19578803
Ms.Vilar lol

>> No.19580285

My Brilliant Career
Miles Franklin

>> No.19580292

My Posting Career