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1957141 No.1957141[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>mfw morality is arbitrary and subjective

>> No.1957142
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1957142

>mfw OP finally graduated from elementary school

>> No.1957145

Not entirely.

>> No.1957147

>>1957145
How so faggot?

>> No.1957148

>>1957147

A certain level of morality guarantees the survival of our species, so it's not arbitrary, it has a specific purpose.

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1957149

>>1957148
>natural selection
>purpose
Pick one.

>> No.1957150

>>1957148

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

>> No.1957151

>>1957150
Additionally:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem

>> No.1957152

>>1957149

I'm not talking about natural selection. I'm talking about "killing is discouraged because if it weren't we'd disappear".

>>1957150

I'm not arguing for 'good' or 'bad'. I'm arguing from utility.

>> No.1957154

what do you mean by 'subjective', OP?
Also, what's wrong with arbitrariness?

>> No.1957155

>>1957151

Again, not saying it should be, I'm saying it's not arbitrary.

>> No.1957158

>>1957154

>Also, what's wrong with arbitrariness?

that's the stupidest thing you've ever said

>> No.1957160

It's not subjective or arbitrary. It's all a matter of hedons and dolors, bitches.

>> No.1957161

>>1957154
What do you mean what's wrong with it?

>> No.1957163

>>1957161

I think he means, why does it matter if it's arbitrary? Plenty of things humans do and dictate are arbitrary. That doesn't make them any less useful.

>> No.1957171

>mfw children can't derive the moral law from the actuality of freedom

>> No.1957182

>>1957163

it presupposes a whole lot of shit about what arbitrary means. ridiculous statement

>> No.1957200

Subjective, yes. Arbitrary, no. It's at least partly evolutionary, bro.