/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.1954765]

So, I'm reading Notes from Underground when I finally stumble upon this part

"She embraced me rapturously and ardently. A quarter of an hour later I was running....."

AHAHHAHA, He only lasted a quarter of an hour? Now I finally understand why this man is so spiteful of the world. He's inept!

[Sherlock Holmes Guy No.1954772]

My favorite part of that book is when he punches the cabbie in the neck

[Anonymous No.1954770]

OR he's just the best hugger ever

[Anonymous No.1954779]

>>1954772
And then pounds the door with both fists and feet. I love the humor in Dostoevsky's works.

[Anonymous No.1954782]

I love when he has that big crazy fantasy delusion about how he's going to tell that guy off, and then just pussies out and acts all passive-aggressive all night.

Reminds me of that meme where the two guys pass each other without any incident, and the first then gets on 4chan and goes "SO I RAN INTO THIS FUCKING NIGGER EARLIER--"

[Anonymous No.1954784]

> yfw you realize The Underground Man would trip on /lit/ if he existed today

[Anonymous No.1954787]

>>1954765

virgin detected

everyone knows that 15 minutes is average and respectable

[Anonymous No.1954796]

>>1954787
If I can masturbated for up to five hours, and simply blow my load due to boredom, I'm certain I can last more than 15 minutes with a woman. Not that I want anything to do with their disgusting cunts.

[satan !OW9DVqIqy6 No.1954806]

>>1954796

fucks sake man...you must have horrible friction burns

anyway...
best part is when he obsesses over not yeilding his way to that guy in the street...but he can't do it because he isn't alpha enough...really funny

[Anonymous No.1954838]

>>1954806
Ah, but he finally bumps shoulders with the damned officer, and though the officer was stronger and barely budged while he fidgeted all over, he at least for a moment was an equal to the officer. He did not give way!

[satan !OW9DVqIqy6 No.1954863]

>>1954838
>>1954838

that's right...lol
it took him much sleeplessness and anguish to force himself into it though...and still he didn't achieve the result he needed, his ego remained a mess.

[Anonymous No.1954868]

>>1954787
I can last an hour and a half if I make the effort, but I have trouble getting off when I fap, so it's one hell of a trade-off.

[Anonymous No.1954876]

>>1954787

Also, everyone knows that if women have at least one good or two minor orgasms, they'll think it lasted forever even if it was only eight minutes.

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954877]

>>1954868
Protip: fapping is nothing like vaginal intercourse.

[Anonymous No.1954879]

>>1954863
>named satan
>says lol
>forgets important parts of story
>believes the situation was about gaining ego
This board is for people above 18

[Anonymous No.1954883]

>>1954876
two "minor orgasms" in eight minutes

anon it's not an orgasm every time they make noise

[Anonymous No.1954884]

>>1954877
protip: it pretty much is the same thing

[satan !OW9DVqIqy6 No.1954885]

>>1954879

you don't know what the fuck you're saying do you?

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954887]

>>1954884
It's really not.

Especially as far as longevity is concerned.

[Anonymous No.1954888]

>>1954879

>believes the situation was about gaining ego

yeah it pretty much was

[Anonymous No.1954889]

>>1954885
>unable to defend his position

[Anonymous No.1954890]

>>1954877
I'm aware of that. I meant I can last like an hour and a half in bed. If I've had sex with the girl before. First time, fifteen to twenty minutes is pretty accurate.

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954893]

>>1954890
Ah okay, thought you meant masturbation.

For an inexperienced guy who goes straight to fucking without foreplay, fifteen minutes is entirely believable. Actually, commendable.

[satan !OW9DVqIqy6 No.1954892]

>>1954889

look at this faggot with delusions of entitlement

[Anonymous No.1954894]

>>1954888
I doubt the underground man is concerned about an ego, concerned about bolstering his importance in the world. That by itself would turn the book into some simple angst ridden babble.

He wants to show the world that we are all the same, if we are all "stupid or intellectual" it would be the same thing. He talks about "we" at the end, he speaks for everyone for he claims we are all stillborn humans lost if only left with ourselves.

[Anonymous No.1954895]

>>1954893
It's true. Not to mention that if it's the first time with that girl, you're usually nervous, and more excited than usual.

Why would you skip foreplay, though? Personally, I think it's fun.

[Anonymous No.1954900]

>>1954894
The Underground Man is also enraged when people consider themselves above him, such as with most everyone in the book, or even when a person considers themselves below him, such as with Liza.

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954901]

>>1954895
You'd be surprised how many people ignore foreplay altogether. It's psychologically stimulating, but most people are concerned with their orgasm, and the notion that cock size is all that matters, so they just use what they have. It's why so many people are considered "bad lovers in bed" and all that.

I actually think it's pretty interesting that the Underground Man is an impersonal, selfish lover. That's a nice touch.

[Anonymous No.1954906]

>>1954901
Seems silly, when you can get the girl to the verge of orgasm before you even start sex, which makes your job a lot easier in the long run.

BTW, is the book worth reading?

[Anonymous No.1954908]

>>1954901
If he was selfish he wouldn't give a second thought about his actions, but he instead torments himself over ever step he makes, usually justifying the wrongs and rights of every action he made but never coming to the decision of if his actions were correct or not.

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954913]

>>1954906
Oh, definitely. It's short, and though the first half is dense, the second half is extremely rewarding. It's a good intro to Dostoevsky; read the short stories White Nights and The Dream of the Ridiculous Man after (or before, if you want a taste of his style).
Or Emerson's Invisible Man, which takes the idea of an underground man and places him during the Harlem Rennaissance; one of my favorite novels, actually.

>>1954908
That doesn't sound selfish to you?

[Anonymous No.1954916]

>>1954913
No, selfish is drinking in full the joy of your actions while giving no conscious thought to your wrong doings.

[Anonymous No.1954921]

>>1954916
Sounds to me like his actions were selfish and he was selfish at the moment, but he wasn't a selfish person after the fact.

[Anonymous No.1954922]

>>1954913
Adding on to what I previously said, the underground man consistently works to undo his selfish behavior while at the same time attempting to justify it. He repays Simonov, pay Appolon his wages, he even chases after Liza to kiss her on the feet and ask for forgiveness.

[Anonymous No.1954924]

>>1954921
He's consistently two sides of a coin, a selfish vs forgiving side. When one is shown at the front, the other is arguing with him on the inside.

[cas(｡◕‿‿◕｡)tiel No.1954926]

>>1954921
>>1954916
He got off on his own punishment, on feeling degraded. He didn't like it in the slightest, but it gave him meaning; without it, he became nothing. I think it was selfish even after the fact, because it was self-serving validation mixed with shame.

Just my interpretation of it, it's been a while since I've read it.
I just think it's more psychological than "he felt bad".

[Anonymous No.1954932]

>>1954926
I would say it was more psychological than "he was selfish", but I see you further justified your meaning and I can accept the merit of your views.

[Anonymous No.1954942]

Epic win dude sex is soo funny the universe cannot contain your awesomes almost as awesome as me!!

AWESOME FOR THA MOTHERFUCKIN' WIn yo'

brofist

P.S. do you like beer and parties haha

[Anonymous No.1954947]

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