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Previous Thread:>>19533186

Reconquista: Fuck anime and fuck shitters edition.
It's time we take /sffg/ back.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
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>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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Fuck Anime

>> No.19541890
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I'm sure the anime shitposter will come to derail this thread. But I'll only keep posting here.

>> No.19541923

So is that guy on Reddit an actual insider or is this Bakker info just fake news?

>> No.19541924
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I wish there was more good Bakker-art in the weird old art styles of the 70s and 80s.

>> No.19541926

>>19541873
any other recommendations for war kino like in Deadhouse Gates? I really liked the Coltaine and Chain of Dogs parts the most

>> No.19541928
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>>19541924
Like this?

>> No.19541934

>>19541923
MyFleshToSalt? From what I can gather, he is closer to the Author-Prophet than many. He may even be one of the Zaudunyani standing with Bakker in the pic from the con a few years ago. Can't be certain of anything, of course.

>> No.19541937

>>19541926
That was my favorite book as well. I don't know why Erikson keeps Killing characters that I love.

What even happened to Hairlock? Does he make a comeback?

>> No.19541967
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>bakker
>sanderson
>tolkien
>martin
>rothfuss
>abercrombie
>wolfe

>> No.19541981

>>19541967
Let me guess... you like Cradle?

>> No.19541983

>white and/or male writer
I do not read that book.

>> No.19541992
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Starting this right now, what can I expect? (this is my first Gene Wolfe book)

>>19541967
Tolkien and Wolfe are the anti-fedora
I dunno about the rest except Martin, who is definitely fedora

>> No.19542000

>>19541992
tolkien and wolfe are the definition of fedora
tolkien specifically ruined fantasy

>> No.19542017
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>>19541857
Crossposting from the other thread
/sffg/ bros, since I've been delving in chinkshit I also fell into the coom fantasy rabbithole.
So, I'm thinking of starting a coom lit general.
What are your opinions on this?

>> No.19542029

>>19542017
Great idea, take the weebnovel homos with you.

>> No.19542034

Just waiting for the discord trannies to post bakker is the king of /sffg/

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>>19542000
citing the two most highly devout catholics of 20th century literature as the arch-icons of new atheism seems highly suspect

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>>19542034

>> No.19542046

>>19542034
Seethe harder, sweetie :)

You lost and your general is dead.

>> No.19542053

>>19542000
is this opposite day, the post?

>> No.19542080
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King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

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>>19541967
>Me? I'm more into Gu Zhen Ren... how could you tell?

>> No.19542083

>>19541992
Keep an eye on the framing.

>> No.19542099

>>19542083
What does that mean?

>> No.19542103

bakkerfags are the harry potter fags of sffg

>> No.19542113

>>19542029
I probably will since most webnovels are literally male harem fantasy.

>> No.19542150

>>19542083
What do you mean the framing? I started it late last night and read the first few chapters before bed. This Yves Menard character had this longwinded preface to the book that explains the main character is a teen isekai'ed into a fantasy setting, which sounds cute for a western fantasy.

Something I've noticed is that the author (narrator) assumes things he doesn't tell the reader until later. For example, Parka accuses Able of eating the fruit of the Spiny Orange tree (which is the result of obtaining the seeds) which Able himself did not record himself as doing in the earlier part of the epistle when he tried to explain how he got sucked into the fairy world by the Mossmen. Then at Scaur and Sha's house, a grandfather starts speaking that wasn't mentioned inhabiting the house earlier. And right after, Able tells his story that he planted a seed at Bluestone Castle's courtyard before drinking the water, even though when he described that scene earlier he made no mention of the Spiny Orange seeds.
Is this a common feature of Wolfe's writing that I have to watch out for?

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For me? It's Cradle!

>> No.19542257

Why is the other thread so filled with old copy pasta?

>> No.19542262

>>19542099
>>19542150
Ambulance.

>> No.19542282
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Was Samwise Gamgee the only major character who was a commoner in Lord of the Rings?

>> No.19542285

>>19542150
>>19541992
>reading introductions made by a different author
just read the fucking book

>> No.19542293

>>19542257
"Why are you so covered with bruises," he asked.
"Because you've been assaulting me," she replied.
"I don't know what you're talking about," he said as he knocked her unconscious.

>> No.19542313

>>19542285
I am reading the book dum dum

>>19542262
I've heard that theory and it doesn't really make any sense

>> No.19542321

>>19542313
It will.

>> No.19542412

>>19542293
Why?

>> No.19542427

Why are there two /sffg/s guys? come on, do better in here

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I've been reading pic related after coming out of a reading dry-spell. It's the very first Stephen King book I've read, bought on a whim at a dollar store. 162 pages in, it's pretty good. Not "oh my god" good, but it's sucked me in and got me invested, which is something that rarely happens.
I seem to recall that a lot of you guys don't really like Stephen King very much. I remember reading tons of posts ridiculing his prose and denigrating him personally.
As I have said above, I haven't really read anything from him before this, so I'm curious - is it just another case of /lit/ snobbery, or are a lot of his books actually shit and this is just an exceptional case that I happened upon by chance?

>> No.19542431

>>19542282
Interesting point. Frodo, Merry and Pippin were both Hobbit blue bloods.
I guess you could argue Beregond (Fountain guard) and some of the Rohirrim were commoners, but for the most part, all the major characters are aristos at minimum.

>> No.19542456

>>19542427
This is the non-anime, non-copy pasta false flag version.

>> No.19542480

>>19542282
I don't think Gimli was a lord until after

>> No.19542554

>>19542480
Wasn't Gimli's father a big shot after they killed the Dragon?

>> No.19542559

>>19542480
Gimli is a nephew of one Thorin's companions who got ennobled after they won their kingdom back.
>>19542282
i can't remember but is Gollum technically common born as well? I thought his grandma just kicked him out of the house or something

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Forget about cringe degenerate authors and read John Gwynne

>> No.19542589

>>19542282
A lot of LotR is about the hobbitses, my precious. All their small families and lineages, the Boffinses, Bolgers, Bungos and Bracegirdles of the world. They do play a key part at the end of the books with the Scouring which I feel is Tolkien at his most sincere and down to earth, and the fact that Jackson cut the Scouring from the films is a huge disservice to Tolkien’s vision.

>> No.19542610

>>19542578
this shilling feels inorganic
seems like vikings (show) fanfic tier.
post passage

>> No.19542634

>>19542559
So is he a noble?

>> No.19542661

>>19542634
in all likelihood yes

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>>19542610
>this shilling feels inorganic
Im just a good fren that got duped into reading the horrible degenerate bakker but then some anon told me about Gwynne and I read his first book and it is everything I wanted in fantasy so I want to tell other anons about it.

>seems like vikings (show) fanfic tier.
Its based on medieval history probably celtic influences. Really well done fantasy, great worldbuilding and amazing characters that you really get into. The first book begins slowly so you get a feel on the lore and characters but around 60% it gets hot.

Just read it anon than you thank me later

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>>19542661

>> No.19542736

>>19542610
This. The book looks like shit considering the way he's shilling it. Low effort.

Not going to read.

>> No.19542739

>>19542559
>who got ennobled after they won their kingdom back.
>>19542725

>> No.19542749

>>19542725
>>19542739
so Gloin and Oin were his father and uncle who were Thorin's companions and if they weren't ennobled at least they got their huge share of the treasure to keep. Actually now i think of it, I think they were already all just distant relations of Thorin so they probably are all nobles, just way down on the succession

>> No.19542764

>>19542749
Did you read the Unfinished tales?

I haven't read too much of Tolkien, just wondering if it's worth it or not.

>> No.19542773

>>19542764
no, I've only read the Silmarillion out of the extended works, I should probably find time to read the others.

On an unrelated note, why do we have two /ssfg/? I just noticed lol

>> No.19542782

>>19542764
UT is worth it all the way.
‘Narn î Hin Húrin’ is some of Tolkien’s absolutely finest work. I’d read the Silmarillion first for context, though.

>> No.19542784

See >>19542456

I'm not sure either, but apparently people were saying that the other one is infested with a shizoid shilling eastern anime novels posting copy-pastas from the archive from a vpn just to keep people in his thread. Regardless, this one feels much more organic, so I guess I'll stay here for the moment too.

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>>19542782
Is the UT even a Cohesive piece of work?
I'm just asking because it looks something from a sketchbook and I'm afraid I'll be kicked in the nuts for not having more.

>> No.19542811

>>19542793
There’s a novella, some short stories, and a handful of ephemera. The novella stands alone as its own work, the Children of Húrin. Desu it is a powerful story, very tragic. The other stories are fascinating if you’re interested in more about Númenór, the White Council, and other stuff.

Tolkien’s work was lifelong and ever-evolving. It spanned many decades, but he was always polishing and refining everything. That’s why I nerd out so much about his “lost” work. Christopher did an amazing job of taking care of his father’s legacy in a way that others *ahem*Brian Herbert*cough* could not.

>> No.19542822

>>19542749
So, you've got nothing.

>> No.19542829

>>19542822
Yeah, I just don't really remember but Tolkein probably wrote up his family tree somewhere. I think Gimli also becomes Lord of some caves near Helm's Deep or something, so even if he wasn't born a noble, he at least made himself one

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you are like litull babby

>> No.19542857

>>19542829
I looked up the family tree and didn't see any support for him being a lord. I took the time because I had the vague recollection that Legolas's title had been pointed out in the books while Gimli's wasn't. Obviously his station in his society was far above Sam's in his, but I don't think he had an official title.

>> No.19542876

>>19542857
see>>19542843
So I guess Gimli doesn't really have a title or land to rule until he takes over those caves near Helm's Deep after the war but he is a super distant descendant of Durin

>> No.19542932

>>19542843
Is this in the annexes?

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I don't get how the droplets were destroyed by Gravity and Blue Space. Can anyone give me a tridimensional explanation?

>> No.19542959

>>19542933
Where is this from?

>> No.19542968

>>19542784
So this is the real general?

>> No.19542972

Just bought the full Bakker collection, started reading and ejaculated like a fire hose and glued most of the pages shut. Knew I should've bought a Kindle.

>> No.19542975

>>19542972
Which part made you coom?

>> No.19543172

>>19542784
Yeah remember to always default to the non-anime /sffg/, that is the real one.

Luckily the weeb schizo is easy to spot.

>> No.19543195

>>19542972
>full Bakker collection

found the redditor

>> No.19543441

>>19542975
The beaver rape scene.

>> No.19543659

>>19542959
Three body problem

>> No.19543744

This this readable?

For context I dropped wheel of time at book 4

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>>19543744
(Pic related)

>> No.19544025

>>19543752
>>19543744
No. I tell you right now, if you can't enjoy Wheel of Time, then Memory Sorrow Thorn will be an exercise in masochism. It is the most disappointing literary experience I've ever suffered, and I wholly recommend against it unless you share the same self-loathing gluttony for punishment that makes people consume Game of Thrones.

>> No.19544156

>>19543744
>>19543752
No. Read Lyonesse

>> No.19544603

>>19542169
Holy shit this book was bad when I tried it.

>> No.19544762

>>19541873
Any good Military sci fi? I found this but unsure if I should shell out for it (I think it's too little known to be pirated).
http://www.walterblaire.com

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Threadly reminder to read Bakker. Start with The Darkness That Comes Before. The Second Apocalypse series is part of the /sffg/ canon. Not understanding Bakker memes renders you blind to most of the relevant discussion that goes on here.

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Any fantasy books about a character who just fucking hates magic? Like, the plot is about them trying to shut down magic. Protagonists preferred, but I'd take an antagonist doing the same thing.

>> No.19544845

>>19542933
When the crew members of the ships entered the fourth dimension, they could see and manipulate the droplet from the inside, since the entirety of the droplet was exposed to them. Once they destroyed the inner machinery it was toast.

>> No.19544882

>>19544025
>>19544156
>the retarded spinoff of /sffg/
>filtered by Osten Ard
who woulda thought

>> No.19544889

>>19544825
How about both protagonist and antagonist trying shut down the whole world from the Gods?

>> No.19544912

>>19544889
unironically The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker

>> No.19544945

>>19544889
No

>> No.19544976

>>19542578

Whole series was extremely forgettable and the main character is a giant fucking mary sue.

>> No.19545010

>>19544889
Yes
>>19544912
Thanks I’ll try it

>> No.19545089

>>19541873
Amazing book.

>> No.19545107

>>19544912
I highly recommend this. read the series a couple years back and its still some of the best fantasy Ive ever read

>> No.19545123

>>19542017
Where do you find even those novels?

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>>19544889
>>19544912
>>19545107

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Currently reading The Color of magic, and I don't know if I missed something, but I don't get how the day/night cycle works, does the sun orbit around the rims of the disc or does it go all the way circling the turtle like it would do if the world where round?

besides that, I like the humor, the same way I appreciated the humor in the hitchhiker series, I like it, but I never found anything that I considered laugh-out-loud funny, maybe I'm just dead inside.

>> No.19545255

>>19542017
This is the most "judge a book by its cover" post I've probably ever read here.

>> No.19545279

>>19542017
How much does it cost to have a cover for a book like that knocked together. I feel like that is the biggest hurdle.

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>>19545279
It absolutely depends on your connections, the artists, and the content. I unironically know someone who used to draw degenerate gay furry porn to make a buck and she was charging like $1200 for a single piece.
The cover in that post is pretty high quality, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the same ballpark.
Keep in mind it's a whole lot of work to actually create a cover like that, I never would have realized how much if I hadn't started watching one artist I know of stream the creation process. Just for a one page Black and White image he takes 14-18 hours. He also uses several thousand dollars worth of specialized equipment for it, and some of it is straight up hand made (pic related).

>> No.19545473

>>19545291
wrong

>> No.19545567

>>19545473
Are you an artist?

>> No.19545588

>>19542700
Kys shill

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Why did Cnauir want to find Khellus? He would obviously just get btfo again. He had no plan it seemed except thinking being really angry would help.

>> No.19545597

>>19545589
Cnaiur was a fag, womanish to the core. His relationship with Khellus was that of an abused GF who keeps getting back with the same guy who hits her and plays mind games with her. He was a total bitch.

>> No.19545599

>>19545589
He wanted to die.

>> No.19545624

>>19545589
he got Dunyain'd and never really recovered

>> No.19545642

>>19545291
Highly dependant. My cousin was doing boat decals for awhile and despite the boats and putting the decals on being quite expensive, he wasn't making too much for each because he didn't have a reputation.

Meanwhile, another relative did a ton of early D&D and Magic The Gathering art and can charge $8,000 for a black and white sketch.

Sort of the same with movies. I strangely had three friends who went that route. One worked in production and was terribly underpaid even after a multi-year "internship" to get in, because everyone wants to do that. Another was a gaffer, and was decently paid because it was a union but was always out of work, and then one got lucky in graphic design and started doing sets and made stupid amounts of money. There is unfortunately a very uneven distribution not particularly based on talent. I mean, Van Gogh also didn't make shit.

>> No.19545650

>>19545589
same reason he wanted to find moenghus

>> No.19545652

>>19543744
Probably not. First book is very middling and starts only halfway through. Second book feels 90% pointless. 3rd is supposedly an improvement but still have to read that.

>> No.19545655

>>19545279
couple of hundred

>> No.19545659

>>19545652
dont bother if you didn't like the first 2 like that

>> No.19545661

>>19545589
Mostly this.

>>19545597

But he probably hoped all his chorea on his soldiers would help him, and that the Consult would take care of the rest. Still dumb considering he can teleport. He also seemed like he wanted to fight him again though, which is even more dumb because even with his magic neutralized Khellus has beat the shit out of him before, and ancient Nonmen warriors alike, so he's no match physically either.

It's a shame all the surviving Dunyain are mangled and appear to now be super sorcerers, because we won't get anymore cool probability trance sword fights, except for the boy.

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>smartest man in the world
>bring army north
>find nuclear weapon
>activate it on top of your army to kill the equivalent of a bunch of ants
>don't move it to your enemy HQ to nuke it
>go home for your psychopath, cannibal child
>just leave him chained up like a retard for anyone to release and fuck your shit up


He's actually a dumbass.

>> No.19545689

>>19545679
He still doesn't understand that resurrecting the No-God was pat of his plans.

>> No.19545697

>>19545689
>if your enemies kill you, you win

I didn't realize Trudeauism was the final revelation.

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>>19545697
>What is the Outside
>What are the Ciphrang
>What does the No-God do

NGMI

>> No.19545792

>>19545679
The entire point of second part was that he might have outplayed bunch of mediaval tards craving for religious guidance and mastered some cool magic powers that are still puny next to Tekne, but he's neither omniscient nor infallible. For fucks sake he technically died to narindar twice because gods tampered with his perception and survived only because someone else has tampered with gods. Also was having one of the assassins next to himself for a long time because of having ultimate trust into his ability of read faces to the point when he disregarded his common sense (how can kid whose city you sacked and whose father you slaughtered with blasphemous magic suddenly become super devoted to you over a single day?)
He did not execute kelmomas right away because he didn't want to disappoint his hoe (who hates him). There was some introspection in one of last books when he admitted that he struggles a lot with necessity to have his "family" die as a result of his plan. After 20 years of being immersed in the world instead of sitting in fortress and autistically flipping coins all day he lost some of his dunyain conditioning and become more human and therefore more fallible.
Some people say it was definitely intentional when he died, but if so, that was desperate bullshit bet on coin flip similar to letting to hang himself upside down and not coldly calculated plan - there are too many unknown critically important variables to plan anything, for example if those tards would put Chorae back into sarcophagus or not, which creates drastically different predictions of how long Mog will live.

>> No.19545805

>>19545697
>>19545679
You unironically got filtered.

>> No.19545816

>>19545792
Kellhus' only edge on the other Dunyain was what ultimately his father was ultimately unable to see. His "madness".

If Bakker is still alive, his next book will cover the Outside's Ordeal

>> No.19545831

>>19545792
This. There is circumstantial evidence that he planned to lose, like why else did he bring his son, why did he bank on his family dying, etc. but these all have other potential answers.

But that makes the whole Ordeal pointless. He could have just brought his son there at any point, easily.

However, I also agree 100% that he isn't dead. He is in a head or something. Why? Because Mymara is going all White Luck warrior on his hologram later. The Gods are still trying to kill him. If he is on the Outside, they already have him. Same with Ajokli searching for him at the end.

But that also means all these ideas about how he wanted to go to the Outside are dumb. He isn't there. Maybe he can go there from his head, IDK. He definitely didn't die on purpose so he could be dead though.


>> No.19545832

>>19545816
>Outside's Ordeal
>Have most of your host to damn themselves so if you die in process you can rally them in hell and start fucking up shit there (and they are mean ciphrang as well after all the cannibalism involved)
I don't know if it is even possible in how metaphysics work in setting but it's fucking sick if true.

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>>19545832
Trust the shortest path, dude.

>> No.19545879

>>19545123
I'm ashamed to say it.....
reddit, /r/haremfantasynovels
This is also why I wanted to make a general here, just to avoid the general faggotry over there...
>>19545279
No idea, nobody tells when asked.
But if you look around, you can find names of various artists and decide to contact them for info.

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>>19545832
>>19545840
These guys get it.

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Is this allowed here.

>> No.19545996

>>19545991
Yes.

>> No.19546019

How hard is it to publish a science fiction book and how much can someone expect to make on average?

>> No.19546029

>>19546019
Effortless and about three fiddy.

>> No.19546036

>>19544845
Cool story bro. Thanks. Don't remember that part very well. That third book didn't really work for me.

>> No.19546041

>>19546019
Baby's first questions. Short answer is: Any fiction book is damned hard to get traditionally published. If you get it traditionally published you still probably have to keep your normal job. The internet is full of the long answers.

>> No.19546062

>>19546019
answers depend on your race and gender

>> No.19546067

>>19542429
What you're reading is probably his best work alongside the gunslinger.

>> No.19546073

>>19546019
You Will Never Be A Published Author

>> No.19546078

>>19543659
Is it any good?

>> No.19546084

>>19546078
Written by a chinese man in the modern era so no.

>> No.19546154

>>19546084
Asian literature is very foreign to me. I have no idea what's really out there. I remember when my brother read some random Japanese Nobel Prize Laureate and said it was nothing special. No idea though.

>> No.19546159

>>19546073
How do you know

>> No.19546167

>>19546041
I'll keep my day job just wondering if my hobby could help to go toward a retirement

>> No.19546184

>>19546167
>>19546041
>>19546019
First off, you have to be an EFL. Otherwise forget it. You will literally not be able to make it in the "sff" market, especially in the case of fantasy. Secondly, you have to be noticed by someone in the industry, either a publisher or an author and thirdly, you have to check every woke checkbox in order to be even allowed to be considered.

>> No.19546214

>>19546184
What is "EFL"?

>> No.19546233

>>19546214
English as First Language, so a native English speaker. While writing in English is easier for natives most natives are much worse than dedicated ESLs. For example The Quantum Thief is written by an ESL.

Do not listen to the americanoid.

>> No.19546264

>>19544882
What's there to be filtered by? It's 2000 pages too long for the shitty shaggy dog story it contains just so it can pull a
>YOU WERE ACTUALLY THE LONG LOST DESCENDANT OF THE KING AND THEREFORE THE RIGHTFUL HEIR!
twist in the last 5 pages, as if that makes up for the previous 2400 pages of torturous, glacially paced, meandering, circular plot.

>> No.19546309

>>19546019
I think the hard parts aren't what you'd expect. If you're gmi at all, writing the book is the easy part. So go ahead and do that, anyways. Next you edit the book, which is hard, but it's hard in every genre. Now, you go hunt down dozens to hundreds of email addresses of agents accepting submissions, write a specifically-formatted query letter pandering to each, and hope one of them likes it enough to want to skim more than the first chapter of it. Then, if you make it that far, she (nearly every agent is a woman, mind) will tell you that you need to figure out how to change something. So you must then find a way to work your original story around the whims of a woman who doesn't write while still maintaining quality, vision, and intent.

My advice: be prepared to be asked to add or expand on a romantic interaction. Leave yourself some places to do that.

>> No.19546311

>>19545216
Color of Magic is pretty weak compared to the later books. Some parts may have given me a hearty chuckle back when I was a teenager but it's more amusing than funny on the whole.

>> No.19546326
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NGL, it does feel good to have 2 separate /sffg/s. I can't believe we are actually having some really nice discussions without anime cancer polluting the thread.

>> No.19546361

>>19546326
Might as well call it the /wsffg/ or genre fiction general.

>> No.19546389

>>19546326
wdym with anime
chinkshit?

>> No.19546398

>>19546389
Pretty much anything originating East of Ural Mountains. The OP of the other thread regularly posts anime amidst chinkshit.

>> No.19546506

>>19546389
There's a mentally ill OP that creates threads 24/7 with shit anime pictures and derrails every single thread with shit eastern anime-like novels.

>> No.19546626

books centered around a doctor or a hospital, or that somehow feature medicine prominently? i only know Hospital Station, was going to also say Black Company but that guy is a writer or something, not a doctor

>> No.19546628

>>19546184
>>19546309
What are woke check boxes I have to tick or red flags for these agents? Do you think publishers will be more anti woke in the future for independents? I'm guessing authors will get sick of it eventually. This also must create a lot of conflict when you are building scifi worlds set in the future. I myself will go completely against modern society beliefs and goes against science taught in schools itself.

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>>19546628
You need to pay attention to politics and the state of the culture in the Anglo-Sphere. Being good is no longer enough.

The Issue you face today is that you(your publisher) will be shut down at the slightest hint of anti-wokeness. You can no longer write or say anything controversial publicly.

>> No.19546642 [DELETED] 

>>19546326
yeah if only the bakkerfags could keep their discussions in the tranime thread where they belong

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I wish more fantasy authors were active on twitter so that I could decide if I can immediately discard all their work just after a quick glance at their bio and latest tweets

>> No.19546674

>>19546642
Low IQ False Flag.

Try again.

>> No.19546686

>>19546669
>be one of the male feminist bugmen
>claim to be iconoclast

>> No.19546734

>>19546686
What the fuck is an iconoclast?

>> No.19546745

>>19546734
sounds like the kind of people that will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes

>> No.19546760

>>19546309
>(nearly every agent is a woman, mind)
Why?

>> No.19546797

>>19546734
someone who posts on r/atheist

>> No.19546799

>>19546734
Someone who destroys religious imagery. However retards like to use it to mean 'one of a kind' because they think it means Iconic rather than the destruction of Icons.

>> No.19546810

>>19546734
Iconoclast is a Greek word meaning literally "image breaker", deriving from sects of Christian (and later Muslim, and even later Protestant) radicals who saw the act of creating images of anything in God's creation an act of the utmost blasphemy and proceeded to destroy any and all works of art, secular or religious, in the cities they took root in.
In modern figurative terms, it's used to refer to any person who goes against the grain, somebody in the counterculture. However, the commodification and adoption of the left-wing counterculture ethos by the establishment makes any self-proclaimed progressive calling him or herself an "iconoclast" an example of Big Brother-tier doublethink and delusion.

>> No.19546896

>>19546636
Well these cunts can go fuck themselves then. I'll be sure to include that in my book. I write for the reader not the publisher. I'll go grass roots and self publish.

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>>19545216
The sun orbits the turtle

>> No.19546994

>>19546928
A flat earth world works perfectly if it's got a dome and the celestial body is close and contained, like lights going in circles around the earth.

>> No.19547017

>>19545679
he didnt detonate it, he found it and had like 2 seconds to react, cant take it with him or he dies

>> No.19547177

>>19547017
Bullshit. He picked up a chest. He could have easily moved it.

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19547185

How the fuck was Kellhus even aware of nuclear weapons?

Was he versed in the Tekne? That opens a new whole set of possibilities.

>> No.19547204

>>19545216
Just keep reading the series in order. It takes him a few books to shake off his influences and become his own thing.

>> No.19547237

>>19547204
How many books are there even?

Is it like dune? Or does the quality improve?

>> No.19547275

>>19547237
There are 41 books. The quality does improve through the first few. After that there are better and worse ones, and storylines or characters they follow and you'll have ones you like more and ones you like less

>> No.19547283

>>19547237
41 excluding companion books. Each novel is written to be read self contained but there is some continuity. Overall quality plateaus in the early teens and then dives at ~30

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>>19547275
>There are 41 books.
From the same author?
This can't be true.

>> No.19547321

>>19547306
People like you are why some of King's work was first written under a pen name

>> No.19547324

>>19547306
Unironically google "Discworld reading order"

>> No.19547331

>>19547321
What does that even mean? I don't like king, but he writes stand alone novels.

Have you seriously read all of Terry Prachet's works?
It's actually true (41 books), I've just checked. Jesus Christ. There is no way in hell that some of them aren't absolute trash.

>> No.19547336

>>19547331
Terry was a absolute master of the English language. A true acrobat.

>> No.19547352

>>19547331
Probably 2/3rds. They don't get really bad until the dementia sets in

>What does that even mean?
That 41 shouldn't be unreasonable

>> No.19547356

>>19544825
My upcoming novel desu.
The main character is a ruthless neopagan misogynist homosexual former wizard apprentice & former male prostitute out to destroy the wizard order and unite his nation under romantic agrarian national socialism, inspired by the likes of Napoleon, Hitler, Cæsar, Sylla, and Oliver Cromwell.

>> No.19547367

>>19547352
>They don't get really bad until the dementia sets in
Is it really noticeable?

>> No.19547370

>>19547356
its probably shit but I wish you luck if its not anime or anime related

>> No.19547385

>>19547370
It's a book, how could it be anime?

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>>19547385
>It's a book, how could it be anime?

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>It's a book, how could it be anime?
He brings a valid point, lads.

>> No.19547413

>>19547185
When he picked up the device, there was a display with text on it
Since Dunyain did not want him to die, text likely was in their language and said "teleport the fuck away faggot it's nuke" or something like that.
He later said that his suspicion about dunyain working with consult was confirmed exactly when he saw the bomb

>> No.19547434

>>19547385
This question is asked only by the anime chinkshit degenerates.

>> No.19547451

>>19547434
Okay nigger.

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>>19547385
Have you read Sando?

>> No.19547461

>>19547451
You are the one writing a gay character.

>> No.19547471

>>19547461
Yes, like Hitler.
>>19547455
No, I generally don't like the stereotyped fantasy genre, all the Tolkien and D&D derivatives.

>> No.19547475

>>19547455
honestly speaking I think Sanderson's world building and magic system development kind of stuff isn't too bad, but his prose is absolute shit so I don't think it really balances it out for him

>> No.19547481

>>19547367
At some point they go from bland to meandering and witless.

>> No.19547482

>>19547475
Sanderson's greatest sin is the characters. They are absolute dogshit. Look like your average Shonen Jump manga types, but worse.

>> No.19547673

>>19547413
>>19547185
text was clearly a countdown like the predator bomb in .. predator, kellhus is smart enough to figure out what it is by studying it for a bit

>>19547177
he has like 10 seconds to take action by the time he's realised what it is, even he can't teleport a long distance in that short amount of time

either he takes it with him teleports away from the army and fucking dies or he does what he did

>> No.19547678

>>19547413
I guess I wouldn't be able to pick out those details on my first read.

>> No.19547681

>>19547413
the dunyain didn't want him to die but had a nonman sniper blasting him that almost killed him? I think it's more they assumed it wouldn't be enough to stop him but didn't want to pull any punches

>> No.19547686

>>19547413
iirc he couldn't read the language, though he figured out it was some kind of countdown pretty fast, they were moving numbers/letters, GTFO cou;d just be written on with a texta

>> No.19547700

>>19545816
This is unironically a very good take.

>> No.19547874

>>19547681
So who was the Nonman that Kellhus meets in the first book?

>> No.19547969

>>19547874
Cet’ingira, also known as Mekeritrig

>> No.19548542

>>19547482
>Look like your average Shonen Jump manga types, but worse.
yeah that was the impression that I got from Stormlight Archives.

>> No.19548597

Are the Narnia books worth reading as an adult?

>> No.19548646

>>19548597
I'd be interested in knowing this as well.

>> No.19548687

Can someone please recommend me any ocean books besides Ten Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and Moby Dick? I noticed I have many space books and only two ocean ones.

>> No.19548717

>>19548597
I would say no, unless you're into the Christian aspect.

>> No.19548732

>>19548687
Have you read the Aubrey-Maturin series? Or Hornblower?

>> No.19548839

>>19547874
>>19547969

Should have raised eyebrows when the great Consult warrior of ages got BTFO by a mere man who knew nothing of the world with no magic.

[Spoiler]Then there is that part at the end when they meet again and Kellhus casually decapitates him. That felt very full circle.

Either the next books need to hardly have Kellhus, or it needs to be on the Outside or something, because his only real opponents are the other Dunyain at this point, who it seems all have magic and probably are as good as him. Even the Inchori just get causally killed, even will using the Techne.[/spoiler]

>> No.19548849

>>19548839
See >>19545816

>> No.19548865

>>19548732
I haven't but I'll look into them. Thank you anon

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Now that it has become apparent that the other thread is shit tier; give me book recommendations, quickly. Before the other shitters show up and false flag our thread.

>> No.19548910

>>19548687
The Maracot Deep by Arthur Conan Doyle

>> No.19548914

>>19547969
Has this been confirmed? Seems a little bit anti-climatic for me.

>> No.19549116

>>19548865
Oh you're in for a treat. I would read Hornblower first. It's much more straightforward, and set the tone for the Napoleonic adventure story. They're thrilling and fun. O'Brian's books cover the same territory but are richer and subtler, with the likes of David Mamet calling it top tier English lit. Space operas have borrowed liberally from both.

If you like audiobooks, be sure to listen to the the Patrick Tull readings of the Patrick O'Brian books. He spits out the jargon like a native and fans used to invite him to speak to meetups. Great, great fun.

>> No.19549133

>>19548900
Lyonesse

>> No.19549162

>>19549133
Did you read lyonesse due to sffg shilling? I came across it as a pirated audiobook someplace and as far as I know this is the only place on the internet where it is recced in line with its merit.

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>>19548900

>> No.19549182

I'm the shill. I came across Dying Earth whilst reading about the origins of modern fantasy and just kept reading Vance.

>> No.19549212

>>19549182
>I'm the shill.
huh?

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>>19549182
I read the Dying Earth and thought it was nothing special. Showboat World was fun though.

>> No.19549240

>>19549225
You didn't like Cugel?

>> No.19549245

>>19549212
I think he means he's the one who shills Lyonesse here. But there are a few of us.

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>>19549240
I couldn't get into it. Short story collections always throw me off if it's not obvious it's short stories and not chapters.
This is the one I read btw.

>> No.19549358

>>19549246
That's unfortunate. I think the first couple of stories are much weaker than the remaining four.

>> No.19549427

>>19549246
Too bad. I can see having issues with the first Dying Earth but the Cugel stories have such focus, clarity and subterranean wit driving them. It's hard to think that someone attuned to this site could not attune himself to it.

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>>19549246
You need to get a later edition that includes Eyes of the Overworld and Rhialto the Marvelous. The earlier stories aren't what the hype is about.

>> No.19550076

>>19548914
yeah it was confirmed by bakker himself which he kind of regretted, also very obvious in TUC when kellhus is like yo remember me?

>> No.19550077

>>19548597
I think a few are and a few aren't. A lot of the characters aren't compelling at all - none of the Pevensies, nor Caspian, nor Jane are worth speaking of. Eustace is probably the most interesting one and by the Silver Chair he's basically just Edmund two.

>> No.19550084

>>19550077
Jill, sorry, not Jane - she's so boring I didn't even get her name right

>> No.19550553

Do people really read visual novels? What do those people look like?

>> No.19550664

>>19550553
"people"

>> No.19550680

I'm about to finish The Second Storm, the new Thousand Li book. I'm at the part where the Core Elder shows up with Yu Kun's body so it's about to climax.

>> No.19550697

>>19542017
dam sum hotties
4 stars
i wish i had girlfriend

>> No.19550712

>>19542041
>hating trans people does not make you a trans expert
um actually it does?
>>19545679
>>19545661
>>19545689
>>19545792
>>19545831
LMAO at these speds who think anybody cares what's in their stupid bakker books

>> No.19550732

>>19546019
Despite what losers here will tell you it's actually really easy. Just type up 300 pages of something you feel passionately about to a publisher and they'll tweak it a wee bit then bam an easy $40k if it's modestly successful.

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>>19550732
>just write lmao

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>>19550738
>>19550732
>>19546019
Unironically watch this https://youtu.be/rYqZjCsAJeg?t=28 She is one of the better writer youtubers. You need harsh advise.

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>>19550801
These old book-covers are kino.

>> No.19551429

>>19550833
Nice ass.

>> No.19551449

>>19550732
You are delusional.

>> No.19551532

>>19551449
You are

>> No.19551550

>>19551532
>No u
Lol, you will never be a writer.

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How good are the Witcher's books actually?
No one seems to discuss them here.

>> No.19551888

>>19549448
>trust nobody, not even yourself

>> No.19551891

>>19551866
first collection of short stories is by far the best one

>> No.19551901

>>19551891
Is the series completed?

>> No.19551902

>>19551866
I think they were fairly decent but I feel like Lady of the Lake wrapped up things a bit too quickly. For some reason I didn't like Season of Storms very much
>>19551901
Yes, the series is completed

>> No.19551922

>>19551866
The short stories are fantastic. Season of Storms is not worth reading, except for the last few pages. I felt that Lady of the Lake was a great ending to the series but apparently it is quite divisive.

The second half of blood of elves and the first half of tower of swallow are the only parts I felt the story was absolute shit.

Sword of Destiny > Lady of the Lake > The Last wish > Time of Contempt >= Tower of the Swallow > Baptism of Fire > Blood of Elves > Season of Storms.

>> No.19551923

>>19551866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv54ec8Pg1k

I've never read the books, but the Show although not bad, it's not great either. The Soundtrack is Kino though.

>> No.19551944

>>19551902
>I feel like Lady of the Lake wrapped up things a bit too quickly
Yeah I felt the same.Sapkowski spent a lot of time on the side quest that was Toussaint. And holy fuck, even though the Battle of Brenna chapters with Jarre's PoV were enjoyable on its own, it should not have been written as filler for the last book. I fucking hated that I was robbed of geralt's journey from toussaint to stygga castle.The same can be said for both the lodge and Dijkstra.

>> No.19552044

>>19551866
Very good series.

>> No.19552053

>>19551866
When I got my hands on the first one it was a just breeze and I ended up reading all the books in like two months. One of the greatest binge reads I had.

>> No.19552079

>>19551944
>Sapkowski spent a lot of time on the side quest that was Toussaint.
Yeah this really annoyed me a lot and the fact that Sapowski's method of getting Geralt out of Toussaint is to just coincidentally overhear where to go next, which felt like a bit of an asspull moment to me. Getting more of Geralt and the Hansa on their travels would have been good too. although I think some of the political and other plots wrapped up too quickly, I did think the ending with Yen and Geralt finally together while Ciri goes to Camelot was a good ending for the series since they finally break the cycle

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>>19542080
Based.

>> No.19552165

>>19552138
Who commissioned these?

>> No.19552205

>>19546078
It rules and is based, don't listen to the shitters on here who haven't read it

>> No.19552225

>>19551866
As someone who has never played the games and watched the show after I have to say I enjoy them a lot. The appeal is Slavic Myth meets modern epic fantasy with a dose of Slavic Cynicism. I haven't read Season of Storms since to my understanding it was done to capitalize on the games and I really felt the ending of Lady of the Lake wrapped things up (Thus why I haven't gotten into the games).

As for the show it's not a bad adaptation but it tells the story in a strange order that takes away from certain stories. The big one I remember being the revelation that Yen was a Hunchback in the Last Wish. I'm most worried that when they get to Lady of the Lake they'll ruin the big twist with the Emperor. It's more faithful than adaptations of Lord of the Rings or A Song of Ice and Fire have been so if you liked those you'll probably like the show too.

>> No.19552241

>>19546084
In that case would you recommend reading Journey to the West?

>> No.19552245

>>19552225
I never read the books, but you can easily tell the the first season's was incredibly rushed from a story perspective. There is almost no character development aside from Geralt and Ciri. The show felt very exoteric and lacked chemistry between characters. And it wasn't entirely a casting problem too, but the dialogue felt dumb at times.

>> No.19552279

>>19552245
I can't hold the show too accountable since Sword of Destiny is a very strange book. Most of the major plot that occurs in it involves a lot of HEAVY drug use and Geralt is hallucinating through most of it. A major chunk of those hallucinations are psychic conversations and things that straight up never happened that would have been really hard to show weren't real events. Geralt goes from a distant uncle character to Ciri in the Dryad forest to a protective adopted father during these illusions. It's very metaphysical and was probably just too much to do on a TV budget. Thankfully the heart of their bond is built in Blood of Elves which is a lot less weird and trippy. There's a big reason Sword of Destiny was the final book to get published in English and it's how weird those sections are.

>> No.19552293

>>19552279
>There's a big reason Sword of Destiny was the final book to get published in English and it's how weird those sections are.
What, they didn't publish the books chronologically?

>> No.19552312

>>19552245
>The show felt very exoteric and lacked chemistry between characters
Not to mention that they completely removed the fact that geralt and dandelion have been friends for a long time. Why change that? Whats the point?
Why did Tissaia turn the apprentices into eels and order Yennefer to push them into that pond?
Fringilla is now black? Why force diversity here, especially when we know that she is Anarietta's cousin and the fact that she looks a bit like Yen.
What the fuck is Istredd doing in Aretuza?

>>19552293
No, The Last Wish and BoE were translated first by Danusia Stock followed by BoF translated by French. It is only then that SoD was published followed by TotS and LotL. It wasn't published the last but it wasn't published chronologically either.

>> No.19552313

>>19552293
Not in English. The English publication order was: 1, 3, 4, 5, 2, 7, 8. These books were not possible to read properly in English until 2017 despite having been written in the 90s. I'm honestly shocked the games got popular in the West considering they are a sequel that does not explain major story details because you are meant to read the books first and then play the games.

>> No.19552318

>>19552312
>Not to mention that they completely removed the fact that geralt and dandelion have been friends for a long time.
Like I said, I never touched the book or the video games, but that entire sequence of the Bard showing up out of nowhere and following around felt terrible overall.

>> No.19552338

>>19552225
>As for the show it's not a bad adaptation
I meant to include you into >>19552312 too. Its really not that great for someone who has read the books. I felt like a lot of the emotions were removed from the show.

>> No.19552349

>>19552338
I think that the Cintra/Nefl-watever battle was completely unnecessary to show and they could have saved a lot of budget there.

>> No.19552397

>>19552338
the show really was quite bad, like the whole point is that Geralt initially doesn't really want Ciri even if he did claim her at birth but because they are bound by destiny they keep running into each other like in Brokilon (what the fuck happened to the bow wielding dryads in the show who don't like visitors?) all to culminate in the news Geralt gets about the fall of Cintra and Ciri's 'death'. And then finally meeting the merchant's family with the thing he was not expecting at home to be literally Ciri which is when Geralt finally accepts that he really has to take care of Ciri now which was a pretty powerful moment in the book. The show utterly failed to do anything meaningful

>> No.19552499

What is the best Lois McMaster Bujold series/book?

>> No.19552577

Is this the thread without the schizo?

>> No.19552580

>>19551866
He is regarded much more highly by Poles than Anglos. I think they're fine but they're far from the top of my recommendations

>> No.19552591

>>19552577
no I'm here

>> No.19552734

>>19552591
Who are you?

>> No.19552947

>>19551866
Overrated at best, mediocre at worst.

>> No.19553120

>>19552734
the schizo

>> No.19553181

>>19553120
What's your favorite book?

>> No.19553193

>>19553181
RotE

>> No.19553205

>>19552499
Her best was that bit of the Vorkosigan books where she got in the swing of it that ran from Borders of Infinity to Diplomatic Immunity. Her worst are the Sharing Knife novels, with the exception of the third one.

>> No.19553273

>>19552397
The casting was so good (most of it anyway). It truly is a shame.

>> No.19553277
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I think it was nice.

>> No.19553288

>>19541992
I didn't like this one, granted I've only read it once. The problem to me is that the protag is a dull and thick character and his first person narration that comes with such a character just wasn't interesting.

>> No.19553290

>>19553277
ended more or less as expected desu, decent series overall

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>>19553277
>GRRM's assistants shat out an entire, 9-books series and several novellas since A Dance With Dragons came out

>> No.19553505

>>19547185
I don't think he even knew it was a bomb or anything, he just found himself baited into a trap of the consult's design with some sort of tekne thing that counted down and drew the conclusion that it's probably something immensely destructive. It was originally buried some distance underground, so it would have had to be to affect him above ground.

>> No.19553581

>>19553277
I think if I ever publish a book I'm going to put "X the way it should be written -GRRM" on the front
Every fucking book has that now

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>>19553353

>> No.19553839

>>19553353
Did he just give up on Winds? I thought with all the chapters he cut from A Dance with Dragons he already had something like a quarter of the book ready or something. Can't he just cull some POVs if he feels he has too many?

>> No.19553852

>>19553839
The show destroyed any ambition he had. Nothing he writes now will be even remotely original unless he scraps everything. Which is a no-no considering he had the ending planned for years.

>> No.19553863

>>19553353
Not even shat out, it's legitimately one of worthwhile reads of modern SF.

>> No.19553868

>>19553852
Working theory is he DID give D&D the actual ending he was going for, at least in broad strokes. Imagine now having to re-write everything after seeing the negative response?

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>>19553863
I was being vulgar for the sake of comedy, i very much liked the series.

>> No.19553882

>>19553852
>>19553868
well I can see Bran being the king in the ending if its more along the lines of Bran being like God Emperor Leto as in being this eternal inhuman being (i.e. he's permanently bound to the tree or part of it) but the show already really deviated from the books starting from Season 5 or so when they decided not to adapt Feast and Dance and so cut out fake Aegon, Arianne and Dorne, the magic madman Euron, Sam's horn, , Harry the Heir, Lady Stonehear, etc that it's hard to say they tell the same story.

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Georgie is richer than any of us all together would ever dream of, so who the fuck cares?

>> No.19553898

>>19541873
I just today self published an urban fantasy novel on Amazon.

>> No.19553899

>>19553898
Link or it didn't happen.

>> No.19553999 [DELETED] 

>>19553899
That'll be $7.00 please.
I only get like $3.00 of that.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NGH4Z9N/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=a+bullet+too+slow&qid=1639266377&sr=8-3

>> No.19554045

>>19553999
How many sales so far? Be honest.

>> No.19554078

>>19554045
Three or four, I think?
I never went in expecting much, desu

>> No.19554080

>>19553999
is it any good?

>> No.19554089

I shit on tom bombadil and fuck his wife

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>>19554089
It's just a children's book character, anon. Chill out.

>> No.19554103

>>19554089
this anon is a based fellow
fucked tom's wife out in the meadow

>> No.19554111

Erikson is the most overrated author in recent fantasy.

>> No.19554113

>>19554111
What makes you say that? No one really cares about Erikson.

>> No.19554119

>>19554080
I let a stranger on an alt tech website (worldtruth.online) read it.
Below is her review

Heres my obligatory review
Pretty solid plot that grabs interest and pulls you comfortably along throughout the story without getting you lost in spite of alot of activity and character movements.
Very good character development with consistency of personality throughout making them genuine and effective without predictability.
Graphic and very intense sequences not for a delicate reader
Outside of my usual genre but highly enjoyable I all but read straight through it because it was well written and had a solid plot direction.
Shifts between characters to give the reader multiple perspectives and deeper understanding was a very good way to keep the reader fascinated and not confused by some sudden direction changes. Also made a great way to provide backstory without obscure flashbacks.
10/10 overall nice work and very vivid reading experience for its genre.
Thanks for the recommendation

>> No.19554139

>>19554119
>women

>> No.19554141

>>19554099
he won't be smiling after I fuck his wife and shit on his face

>> No.19554155

I just self published my novel about urban cucking on Erotica.

>> No.19554227

>>19554155
Ok, but who asked?

>> No.19554250

>>19554139
Yes.
I talk to them, too.

>> No.19554293

>>19554080
>When the modern day wizard Eric Menrhine attempts to rescue Katherine Sandoval from the undead serial killer Alan Brooks, it sets into motion a chain of events that throws him into a mess of Faery politics, complex plots, and into the watchful eye of the College of High Magic.
No.

>> No.19554362

>>19554293
Okay.

>> No.19554470

>>19542000
Bait and cringepilled.

>> No.19554621

Ahem.
Fuck the jannies.

>> No.19554720

>>19553839
GRRM is a leftist and every book he writes from now on will be woke and intended for women. He's tainted. If you have a pair of nuts and enjoy winds of winter when and if it is published, you are clearly a beta man. If you are anticipating this book, you are a beta man. George has always been a sniveling limp wristed fat lazy draft dodger, but now he feels emboldened by years of sipping at wine parties with powerful democrats. He's so fat and overindulged in his gluttonous lifestyle going to pizza parties, he will never return to any talent he pretended to have in his incoherent schlock. Success ruined this fat fuck, he will die from heart disease before he finishes ASOIAF fan's precious, really poorly written and unoriginal fantasy books targeted for young adult aids patients.

>> No.19554886

>>19554720
Most talented artists and creators are leftists. Cope and seethe

>> No.19554908

>>19554720
>draft dodger
Did he really?
I wrote part of my book while deployed on a JCOB in Afghanistan.
Fuck that fatass.

>> No.19554927

>>19554908
Yeah dodged vietnam, he's open about it too, can you believe that? He then goes on his political high horse about war.

>> No.19554991

>>19554927
We lost a potential powerhouse when he was granted a deferment.
The Airforce could have dropped him behind enemy lines, where he would quickly consume all of their food.
Ever read his books?
It's a fucking page describing every dish on the table.

>> No.19555603

>>19554293
If you REALLY wanna own him you should post links to your much better literary works.