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I recently realized I'm a midwit. Truly average and will never be great at anything. books for dealing with this?

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>> No.19538319

>>19538315
Seek help.

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>>19538286
The Decline of the West also works

>> No.19538525

>>19538286

Subhuman < 90 < Normie < 115 Midwit < 130 < Midwit_plus < 145 < Bigwit

>> No.19538540

>>19538286
I'll list some authors midwits tend to enjoy:

Evola
Guénon
Dostoevsky
Spengler
Hoppe
Solzhenitsyn

You will be able to understand them all pretty easily but reading them will delude you into thinking you're no longer a midwit.

>> No.19538546

>>19538286
>Spergler
>Jungler
>Tolstoyevsky (Notes from the Underground esp.)
>Wellbeck (houllebecq)
>Steinbeck
>Ayn Rand
>Bulgakov
>most of Russian lit desu
>Hesse (unless you're a teenager or reminiscing about youth consciously, in any other case you're a midwit just as any adult who reads YA or glorified-YA seriously)
>Dawkins
>48 laws of power
>Mishima
>Murakami
>Evola (but not guenon!)

there. the midwit trifecta. someone should make this into a /midwit/ chart

>> No.19538548

>>19538540

Spengler is too dense for midwits. Guenon is not enjoyed by anybody

>> No.19538549

>>19538286
That's basically how Montaigne described himself, anon. I think you'll feel much better after reading his Essays

>> No.19538633

>>19538286
I am telling you honestly and certainly there is no real way to cope with this.
If you read midwits it will only make you realize how miserable it really is and make you hate it even more.
If you read high IQ writers i.e. most of them they will just be talking down to you as they should or they will be extremely patronizing and sandbagging essentially.
Idiots don't write books. They write other things which you can find a lot of on the internet but I think you probably already know that won't help you much and might even make things worse because you might become jealous of them.
Mediocrity is the worst possible infliction one can have. There is no cure or even relief. You just suffer quietly, benign and invisible to society until you die forgotten forever. It's happened to billions and it will happen to you too.

>> No.19538651

>>19538633

What about rude, mass mediocrity? People like OP are almost never thoughtful and they get their voices herd by banding together in huge mobs. If OP really had average intelligence he would be on Facebook or /b/ and not /lit/. Normies usually cannot even write in proper English

>> No.19538713

>>19538540
What's wrong with Spengler? He's just fine. Evola/Guenon are for midwits - or reactionaries, at least.

>>19538546
>doesn't know a trifecta is meant to be composed of three
>dismisses Dawkins, probably due to The God Delusion/his atheism and has never read The Selfish Gene or The Extended Phenotype
>thinks Mishima and Junger are midwit-tier for no stated reasons other "muh contrarianism"
trash post, I agree with your take on Hesse

>> No.19538724

>>19538286
You’re a midwit? I’d tell you to read Nietzsche but I’m sure you’ve already read him all.

>> No.19538786

>>19538286
Mishima's Sun and Steel. Top tier book for white Western midwits going through a quarter-life crisis

>> No.19538789

Books to transcend being a midwit?

>> No.19539568

>>19538286
What's your issue? Modern society is tailored towards the average midwit. You couldn't live in any better times.

>> No.19539572

>>19538286
The Bible.

>> No.19539579

I've never had a single original thought. I let the voice of my mind be covered in noise to escape this frightening truth.

>> No.19539644

>>19539572
He said Midwit not retard

>> No.19539650

>>19538286
Deleuze, Sartre, Foucault, Lacan
But don't read them, just watch the philosophytube videos about them.

>> No.19539667

>>19538286
>will never be great at anything
Read Industrial Society and Its Future. You'll realize that whatever you wanted to be great at is a pointless surrogate activity anyway.

>> No.19540087

>>19538286
Unironically midwit is the best class.

>> No.19541776

>>19538286
>I recently realized I'm a midwit
This proves you are at least a self aware midwit. Most of us are midwits, naturally, but most people consider themselves not to be

>> No.19541883

>>19538786
Lmao are you still dyel? Why bring up /fit/s favorite book?

>> No.19542530

>>19538651
Normie =/= midwit

I would say midwit is defined as 1-2.5 SD's from the norm, up to about 140 IQ.

>> No.19543040

>>19538546
>>19538540

You guys don't get out much, do you

>> No.19543105

>>19542530
Midwit is 115-130 imo.

>> No.19543144

Zoomers are so mentally ill, reducing the entire experiential dimension to fucking IQ. In a sense, they are no longer even human beings and have already speciated into something worse than both animal and man alike.
Absolutely soulless, depraved ingrates.
Idgaf if your IQ is 90, 120, or 140. It's your obsession with it that is sick and disgusting.
I have far more respect for a religious fanatic than I do for you pseudo-materialist pieces of shit.
Again, I don't care about your endless shitty ratiocination about how important IQ is. Genuinely off yourselves.

>> No.19543158

>>19543144
Very 115 iq post I'd say

>> No.19543165

>>19538286
Get really into neoclassical economics or monetarism.

>> No.19543180

>>19543158
You zoomers are very predictable.
Who the hell cares about IQ?
Did religious thinkers or artists obsess about IQ in the past?
No. They cared about wisdom, salvation, or whatever.
I do not give a shit about your IQ.
Being good at abstract thinking is only one skill in life. There are other important things such as wisdom, values, honesty, integrity, emotional intelligence/regulation, and much more.
Take your obsession with abstract-oriented mind and shove it.

>> No.19543213

>>19543144
this but the low-iq are so easy to spot and subsequently insufferable for more than a couple of hours at a time.

>> No.19543220

>>19543213
It depends on many factors.
Are they humble?
Are they wise?
Are they courteous and kind-hearted?
Stuff like that.
High IQ is only good for highly technical fields like becoming a C++ programmer or some shit.

>> No.19543243

>>19538315
I genuinely like the cover.
I also genuinely hate you

>> No.19543271

>>19543220
no its also required for creative fields. I know low-IQ people who have some of the qualities you've mentioned but they get exhaustively boring after sometime. of course there are high IQ people who are also as boring but usually they are more entertaining then the plain idiots. I don't find them nearly as boring as my mechanic friends who repeat the same hard-earned lessons or have long drawn stories and pointless takes.

>> No.19543300

>>19543271
>no its also required for creative fields.
Not really unless you're referring to long and complex narratives, which I would agree for that particular instance.

>> No.19543307

>>19538548
spergler is peak midwit. None of it is dense, if you think it is then you're obviously a midwit

>> No.19543311

>>19543307

Shut the fuck up you annoying faggot.

>X is Y

>NO NO NO X IS NOT Y AT ALL

>> No.19543322

>>19543311
I'm telling you, zoomers do not behave like any human beings that have existed in the past. Being brought up with social media has most likely facilitated some kind of hyper-speciation.
Hell, some zoomers don't even look like human beings.
These people breathe and think in memes, which is absolutely disgusting.

>> No.19543365

>>19543300
lots of creative work requires deconstructing other works and finding out how they function. its a process that requires above average abstract thinking. it also requires the tendency to get bored easily, which makes you search for new things outside your purview, which is usually a tendency bundled with people who can understand things faster.

>> No.19543394

>>19543365
>it also requires the tendency to get bored easily
Being bored easily does not necessarily indicate high intelligence. It could indicate a lack of depth/contemplation within oneself for example. It could indicate not being able to handle solitude and so on.
>lots of creative work requires deconstructing other works and finding out how they function
That doesn't require as high of an IQ as you think depending on the goal.
>its a process that requires above average abstract thinking.
It depends on the field or genre of artwork one is interested in. Speaking in generalities here is accomplishing nothing.
>understand things faster.
Yes, people with high IQ under abstract concepts faster.

>> No.19543474

>>19543394
doing good creative work requires an above average IQ undoubtedly. I've been around the music scene my whole life and I can tell you, low IQ people progress so slowly or never get past a threshold in their crafts. The best among them just repeat already explored Forms. I agree being bored easily doesn't indicate high intelligence but it is often seen in those with high intelligence because of the logic I proposed, namely that understanding things faster makes you seek more as a consequence. I'm speaking here in the sense of progressing in a craft not as a general attitude.

>> No.19543506

>>19543474
>doing good creative work requires an above average IQ undoubtedly.
It depends on the field again. Speaking in generalities is simple-minded. Being simple-minded is not a consequence of IQ however. It could be due to arrogance/haughtiness or lack of contemplation for example. It could be due to many factors.
>I've been around the music scene my whole life and I can tell you, low IQ people progress so slowly or never get past a threshold in their crafts.
I am musically illiterate and cannot speak for that craft. Instead of speaking for all art, why not speak just for music? I'm not going to debate you then because I simply never cared to learn an instrument.
>The best among them just repeat already explored Forms. I agree being bored easily doesn't indicate high intelligence but it is often seen in those with high intelligence because of the logic I proposed, namely that understanding things faster makes you seek more as a consequence. I'm speaking here in the sense of progressing in a craft not as a general attitude.
You are making a lot of assumptions.
Art is not always about innovating or "pushing the boundaries". More is not always good depending on one's goals. Perfecting preexisting traditions or working within its boundaries, if that's what personally inspires you, can likewise produce great art.

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This is a thread about midwits made by a midwit full of midwits calling others midwits thinking they're somehow smarter than the people they're judging because they read books that are more difficult to understand than the one's they attribute to midwits, or in short:

Go outside and talk to a woman or play ball or talk to your neighbour you basement dwelling faggots.

If you're not completely retarded you should have realized by now that logical/abstract thinking that is measured in classical standardized IQ tests is not the only form of intelligence and only correlates to financial/academic succes later in life, not to overall succes in different areas of life nor to happiness. That's the reason you're spending your time on an anime literature board instead of building something worthwile or socialising with peers. Most of you degenerates even fail at the most basic human task of procreation, literally removing yourself from the gene pool while jerking off to IQ test results you received from a shrink in 7th grade because your parents thought might be autistic. Now you either accept the truth and fuck off or cope and seethe for he rest of your life, nobody will remember your name anyways and you wouldn't give a shit either once you're dead.

To OP: Stop whining you weak ass pussy. The most succesful people I've ever met were not the smartest ones but guys with a lot of discipline and social skills who had the balls to do shit and go for their dreams, so stop fucking around and go out there.

recommendations for your whiny ass:

The Greeks


Good luck Anon even though i fucking hate you

>> No.19543747

>>19539667
surrogate activity to what?

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>>19543747
deez nuts

>> No.19543839

>>19539650
>trannytube
No thanks bucko

>> No.19543840

>>19538286
ITT everyone lies to themselves that they have a 145 IQ

>> No.19543869

>>19543144
A lot of zoomers think IQ is everything when in reality it's barely anything. My uncle has a tested 132 IQ and he's the biggest fuck up alcoholic I've ever met. He's an embarrassment to the family. The best use for IQ tests is detecting retarded people. Real genius is something totally unrelated to problem solving abilities

>> No.19543876

>>19543693

Being a petty scoundrel who doesn't care about anything is not a form of "intelligence" lol. Stop defending normies like they're your pets or something

>> No.19543894

Absolute state of this board.

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>>19538286
Anything that taught in College Lit. Remember, kids. College lit isn't the end all be all. It's just the beginning to find your own readings. So now put down that copy of Ulysses (No, you're not interesting just because you read it, we all had to read it. You're just like any other lit fag) and find something interesting today!

>> No.19543919

>>19538540
Do you even know what a midwit is?

Do you think they even know what Guenon even is or tries to say. Spengler? Seriously?

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>>19543894
>Absolute state of this board.

>> No.19543957

>>19543919
Midwits are now apparently anyone who isn't a genius or a tard, so I guess some midwits would know and some wouldn't

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>>19538315

Website still broken

>> No.19543991

>>19538286

Start with the Rowlings

>> No.19543993

just read what you like and then keep reading. do little other goals too. internet and modern times at least have a surplus of info. please be well

>> No.19543994

>>19543991
Lol

>> No.19544017

>>19543180
I genuinely dont care about IQ lol. I dont know mine but it's probably about 100. Obviously other things matter more. That doesnt mean you can just pretend it's not real when it clearly is. My iq prevents me from being a physics professor for example. My behavior in general does lel but even if I tried really hard I simply am not smart enough to do high level math let alone innovate in it.

We dont even need iq to realize this, everyone knows it anyway. IQ is just a quantification of something we all take for granted basically.

>> No.19544044

>>19543869

>A lot of zoomers think IQ is everything when in reality it's barely anything. My uncle has a tested 132 IQ

This is how I know you have a low IQ. Even though IQ and testing has faced rigorous evaluation and research for decades that strongly correlate it to specific outcomes, you think all that aggregate data is bullshit because of your drunk uncle. your anecdote trumps all statistics.

That's the way stupid people think.

t. 155

>> No.19544060

my diary tbqh

>> No.19544111

>>19538286
Being great has little to do with your intelligence. You believing bullshit like this is your own fault and is really what is holding you back from achievements. If by "midwit" you mean you are a pussy like most people than I 100% agree with you

>> No.19544116

>>19544044
What have you achieved in life though? Usually people who are proud of their IQ, like people in MENSA are losers. You sound like a loser who hasn't accomplished much by your post.

>> No.19544129

>>19544044
>155
didn't ask for your deadlift ORM buddy

>> No.19544322

>>19538286
The fact that you need coping for this implies that you have severe mental retardation

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>> No.19544392

>>19544347
>IQ-fag
>uses npc.png as a response just like all the other npcs obsessed with IQ
kek

>> No.19544398

>>19544347
>download.jpg
Holy shit. Lmao.

>> No.19544426

>>19544116

>What have you achieved in life though

I have a bs in CS, a masters in CS and a triple accredited MBA. I am a director for a company youve heard of. My primary role is big data techstrat.

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>> No.19544480

>>19544044
I realize communication between us is impossible because you are not a human being. I would have more luck communicating with my cat. Zoomers have already speciated into something that is no longer human.
When I am on my deathbed or dying alone in a forest, I am going to be pondering questions pertaining to the nature of life, mortality, and so forth as I watch the birds with a sense of wistfulness. You, on the other hand, will endlessly produce shit memes in your mind like "why no gf, lol", "wish I had a higher IQ", "wanna do one last Fortnite dance", "Sneed", or whatever crap.
I find it difficult to believe you are even a sentient being. You are more akin to a deep learning bot trained on data sets full of memes. You are like a lobotomized Marquis de Sade. The fact is you cannot truly deeply feel because you're probably drugged up while endlessly cooming in-between your "deep" Discord chats that are full of insipid memes. Shallowness is your forte after all.
You barely get any solitary walks in nature or care to feel mesmerized by anything but stroking your own ego. You don't give a fuck about any deeper significance to any *this* because you are by default a nihilist and so forth. You think all theological texts are obsolete cause you're a crypro-physicalist.
Your obsession with IQ is no different than an autist's obsession with collecting shiny Pokemon cards.
Europe or America need to do something drastic to deal with the spiritual crisis with you dysgenic Zoomers. Something like becoming a Christian theocracy and whipping depraved memelord, edgelord punks like you in public while shouting verses from the Bible to wake you the fuck up. I say this as a non-Christian.
Before you say "dilate", oh wow so based, I recommend boiling some water and throwing it onto your face. I have nothing to further say, but I hope your high IQ can help deal with that suffering. High IQ can help deal with all hardships in the vicissitudes of life. You will sit of the right throne by King Pepe while mocking all normies onto the end of time.

>> No.19544493

>>19538525
*anon < Subhuman....
Fixed that for you.

>> No.19544513

>>19544426
Chucky Cheese?

>> No.19544795

>>19544480
A spiritually enlightened person wouldn't feel the need to prove their intelligence on an anonymous message board. This is petty and pathetic. Instead of projecting your own shallowness, hedonistic tendencies and intellectual insecurity you should reconsider why you're affirming these things to us.

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>>19538540

>> No.19545138

>>19538286
Read the bible to develop some humility. If you didn't put so much weight on the opinions of others, you wouldn't care about things like this. The truth is that the people at the top aren't 160 IQ giganerds. For the most part, they are social and driven people with a average to above average intelligence. They know their own limits and instead of dwelling on their own shortcomings, they just hire giganerds to help them out.

>> No.19545191

>>19538546
>Names 10+ authors
>"midwit trifecta"
What did he mean by this

>> No.19545331

Holy fuck what even is all this thread about I don't get it. Who wants to be the best at anything anyhow it's too much responsibility beholden to empty late capitalist delusional life.

>> No.19545471

>>19538286
thomas bernhard - the loser

>> No.19545611

>>19543144
It's just a cope because they're too afraid to fail or look silly. Crabs in a bucket. I also don't understand how one draws a correlation between IQ and artistic talent.

>> No.19545636

>>19545191
These threads are thinly veiled vent threads for authors that piss you off

>> No.19545898

>>19544480

>Your obsession with IQ

Just the opposite. IQ is like height. It's great being tall but isn't an accomplishment. I don't think tall people are superior to short people.
It seems me mentioning my IQ in a thread about IQ has caused you to project your obsession onto me. You seem insecure about your intelligence.
Don't worry anon, people are much more likely to judge you based on your kindness than your cognitive aptitude. Stay positive.

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>>19544513

Lol I wish

>> No.19545945

>>19542530
So you think that a let's say 130-140 IQ guy can't acomplish anything of worth and most wrighters are above 140? Really?

>> No.19545983

>>19544044
Please tell us what test you scored 155 on?

>> No.19545997

>>19545983

>Please tell us what test you scored 155 on?

Tested twice, once by the ministry of education as a youth due to my standardized testing scores and once again by my employer via a third party agency. 155 both times, which is unlikely but I read the results myself.

>> No.19546027

>>19538286
Not a book but Amadeus.
>>19538546
What writers are for non midwits?
I haven’t read seriously since I was like 16.

>> No.19546129

>>19545898
>It's great being tall
Not really. You have to eat more, and you risk eating more empty calories.
Kys.

>> No.19546133

>>19544795
I'm not spiritually enlightened. I have too much hatred.

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>>19538286
is being greatly reknown really that special. better to keep your neck out of the way of the axe when it swings

>> No.19546343

>>19546129

nobody:
>I wish I was a manlet

>> No.19546374

>>19546343
It depends on context.
In this modernized, globalized shithole, yes most people think the same way.
However, if you're living alone in the woods and have to grow shit and sometimes hunt (unfortunately), being shorter has its advantages due to needing less calories.
Most things are a double-edged sword, you arrogant fucktard.
Being taller means you have to consume more resources. In this age it means more risk of empty calories or processed shit full of preservatives.
Being tall has advantage in other ways, but if you're not interested in procreating or wasting time with women, who cares especially in the age of guns? If a nignog jumps a short man on the subway, for example, he could just shoot him in self-defense.

>> No.19546387

>>19545997
I mean you were tested with the WAIS, SB or you just can't remember. I read about standard IQ test a lot in the past and I heard they get quite unrelieable when you go past the 140-145 range. This is the reason I don't really believe anybody who tells me they have a "160 IQ " and stuff like that. For example the mainstream standard test like the WAIS only measures up to exactly 160 and it's considered very unrelieable at that range.
This is also a reason I don't understand when the anons here say that everybody under 145 is a midwit. This is just my opinion, fell free to disagree!

>> No.19546529

>>19538540
>>19538546
OK, now justify each of these with at least three (3) sentences.

>> No.19547181

>>19538315
Still don’t know what it’s about

>> No.19548368

>>19546387

>heard they get quite unrelieable when you go past the 140-145 range

This is absolutely true, I can only tell you what the results were, and I can't speak to the methodology. It's not really that important to me. If I took another test and got 140 I'd still be the same person. It's not like there's prizes.

>> No.19548373

>>19546374

>However, if you're living alone in the woods and have to grow shit

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

>> No.19548379

>>19538546
>trifecta
you're probably not even baiting and are just actually retarded

>> No.19548506

>>19545138
The thing is I'm not insecure about not being successful in the sense of a bunch of external achievements, I just want to be able to write essays about books I read that don't sound dumb as shit. I only care about my own sense of accomplishment but my iq limits my understanding of abstract concepts and ideas, I contasntly misenterpret books, incapable of thinking original thoughts. My thinking is doomed to mediocrity and ill never live up to my intellectual standards

>> No.19548758

>>19548368
Good to hear! Sadly there are some others here who think otherwise.

>> No.19548833

>>19543869
>On average people with high IQs are better at everything
>I know one person with a high IQ so it's meaningless
>t. Nitwit