/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19533859]

Are self improvement books worth reading? I always had the impression that only retards read them

Last thread was deleted even though it's not against the rules. I guess one of the mods is a retard who reads these kind of books

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[Anonymous No.19533883]

The miracle morning is good

[Anonymous No.19534296]

>>19533859
>are self improvement books good?
No

[Anonymous No.19534535]

>>19533859
Zarathustra is good.

[Anonymous No.19534746]

>>19533859
>are self improvement books good?

Depends on which ones. Books explicitly made for self-help are usually bad. Books that teach doctrine or any other type of knowledge in which you can extract and use to better your own life whilst not explicitly being self-help are usually the best.

Six Pillars of self-esteem - Sounds like a self-help book but it's written more a psychological study of self-esteem in humans which you can use to help your own life. Probably the best book.

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius - It was basically written as a kind of Diary but still has advice you can take from.

[Anonymous No.19534793]

>>19533859
I think they’re useful, at least useful enough to get the average person to start being more introspective. I used to think introspection was an inherent trait of all human beings, but evidently it’s more uncommon than I thought.

Greene’s books are really interesting and worth checking out, but actually trying to follow his principles and expecting yourself to become successful can be a living hell for someone who isn’t a sociopath. There is tremendous value in understanding that there truly are people out there who will ruin you just for fun, though, and I think that book does a great job convincing naive people to accept the human capacity for becoming artists at inflicting pain and suffering.

[Anonymous No.19535176]

>>19533859
You only need to read one and you'll realize that all self-help, leadership, and business books essentially just repackage the same information.

[Anonymous No.19535222]

A qualified yes.

A good self-help book works in one of two ways. Either it teaches you something practical, or it contains positive associations of the desired result. Both of these will help you. A book like “the Power of Habit” has practical steps but also features a lot of stories that will make you desire implementing the steps. At the end of the day you do have to implement changes.

The books that I find have the most useful information are
- the Power of Habit, explaining the science of habits and why they are important and how to implement small habits
- the Organized Mind, which explains how to organize your day for mental efficiency. Info like cutting out task shifting and having “accordance” spaces for all of your things to minimize cognitive expenditure
>Flow by Csikszentmihalyi. Explains an optimal mental state during activity which he calls “flow”, where time slows down and focus is pleasantly on the activity you are doing.

Also, reading about Anki and concepts of spaced repetition and chunking have also been instrumental

[Anonymous No.19535599]

>>19534746
Self esteem is a meme and even refuted by JBP

[Anonymous No.19535714]

>>19535599
Not really. Depends what you mean. People who believe that they are worthy of things, that they are able to do things, and that they are lovable will wind up doing more things that take them “out of their self”. People who believe they are unable to do things, unlovable, unworthy will try fewer things. It‘s not about “I’m the best” but about “I am worthy and capable”.

I would say we have a self esteem crisis currently, because there’s so much demoralization propaganda in America