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19525376 No.19525376 [Reply] [Original]

I don't want this post to be /pol/, I just want to engage a discussion with the most literate board.
I think something like what is happening to us now has never happened in the history of mankind: everyone is siding for the vax and everyone who disagree with the current zeitgeiist is labeled as "anti-vax", the lack of democracy in countries like Australia is astonishing and yet no one of these so called "intellectuals" blinks an eye.
why can't there be a discussion between two sides who have different ideas: those who agree with what governments are managing this situation and those who don't?
even Chomsky is ok with this.
what do you guys think?

>> No.19525395

>>19525376
I love how they used a decade old picture because he's probably already dead and in the freezer with Bourdain and Epstein

>> No.19525434

>>19525376
I've got news for you, the man is more than 90 years old and appears not to have shaved in over a year. Maybe, just maybe his intelligence and insight is not what it used to be.

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>>19525395
He's aged terribly. He looks like a homeless man who's about to die.

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>Manufacturing consent
Indeed!

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>>19525434
I'm 105 and look like picrel.

>> No.19525445

I think that the 'vax vs. anti-vax' argument has been spread by those in power so that all the fighting and strife that could potentially occur during a pandemic is in fact just focused on one or two aspects, none of which really matter.
I don't want the vaccine!
Ok
I don't want unvaccinated people near me!
Ok
I don't like wearing a mask!
Ok

But as long as you aren't rioting, or any other catalyst for change is occurring then everything is ok. These are the lines that have been drawn for you to talk about and fight over, and when it's over, nothing will have changed and that's the point.

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>>19525376
>the lack of democracy in countries like Australia is astonishing
Oh fuck off, this is the literate board you're talking to, not /pol/. Plato clearly refuted democracy and showed why we should listen to qualified intelligent experts instead of a bunch of random angry rednecks in his Republic. Guess what? Australias infections are down and here in Canada we're doing a lot fucking better than you guy down south there. READ IT NOW.

>> No.19525478

>>19525376
>even Chomsky is ok with this.
>communist is ok with enforced vaccination

What else would you expect?

>> No.19525508

>>19525376

He's always been a bootlicking establishment pseud. The only difference is that when he was young he made useful contributions to linguistics (his politics were still retarded), but now he's just senile.

>> No.19525537

>>19525471
Why would I care about how many infections there are? It's just the coof. Oh btw, the USA is a republic and Canada and Australia are constitutional (in name only) monarchies.

>> No.19525556

I honestly don’t have a clue, my opinion on covid and everything that came along with it is just a blob in my mind. I can’t imagine how anyone could even have a coherent opinion.

All I know is that whatever is happening, it’s bad.

>> No.19525583

Can someone explain liberal proclivities for state power?

>> No.19525597

>>19525376
It really is astounding that anyone takes Noam Chomsky seriously at this point. Anyone who thinks that these vaccines do anything other than improve your own immunoresponse once infected lacks the ability to think critically.

>> No.19525603

>>19525376
Has Chomsky ever been consistent in his beliefs? He has spent his career demonizing U.S. Presidents as Hitler-tier authoritarians all while worshipping Communist dictators.

>> No.19525605

>>19525441
Pretty cute, for a dude.

>> No.19525616

>>19525376
It couldn't be made clearer that there's planning between the elites against the masses. If you're an intellectual, or someone important who goes against it, then you're going to be punished.

>> No.19525632

Antivax basically just means dumb poor white people really, essentially the wests untouchables. Not to be listened to or taken seriously

>> No.19525637

>>19525471
the republic was satire, retarded leaf nigger CSIS glowie

>> No.19525643

>>19525632
antivax chads are disproportionately people of color

>> No.19525644

>>19525376
chomsky has always been a retard

>> No.19525647

Follow the money. That's what Chomsky would have said before his brain turned to banana pudding.

>> No.19525649

>>19525597
Are they supposed to do something else?

>> No.19525653
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19525653

>>19525376
Read Agamben

>> No.19525659

>>19525643
and workers fucked over by the restrictions

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>>19525471
>plato deboonked democracy
>appeals to authority but doesn't explain the refutation
>uses adhominem descriptions of people who disagree with your position
>implying Americans live in a democracy, not a corporate oligarchy mislabeled as a democratic republic
whew lad

>> No.19525661

>>19525632
Yikes moment.

>> No.19525668

>>19525376
>everyone is siding for the vax and everyone who disagree with the current zeitgeiist is labeled as "anti-vax", the lack of democracy in countries like Australia is astonishing and yet no one of these so called "intellectuals" blinks an eye.
There have been scapegoats and outcasts through out the history though.

>> No.19525681

>>19525376
Government progressives have wanted additional power over people's lives for a while now. The pandemic simply presented them with the opportunity, and they're not going to waste it.

>>19525632
I have three college degrees, including graduate level coursework in statistics and public health, and I'm opposed to the COVID-19 vaccine. I'm sorry that your overlords have manipulated you into thinking that resistance to the largest government overreach in several generations is stupidity

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>>19525537
>Why would I care about how many infections there are?
Ok? Well then how about fucking deaths? You Yanks aren't doing so fucking hot don't pretend like you fucking are.
>but muh freedumbs
people are fucking dying retard. Sometimes you have to just put on your big boy pants and cede some of your freedoms away to receive better ones (positive freedoms, like not fucking dying). This is basically a fucking war and it's coronavirus vs. us (e.g. (You), me, your loved ones like friends and family, workers, etc.) and she's fucking winning.
> Oh btw, the USA is a republic and Canada and Australia are constitutional (in name only) monarchies.
Amerilards are dropping like fucking flies and all because they want get back to waging at muh jerbz while we were comfy, NEETing, shitposting, watching Netflix, and waiting for the vaccine to come in. Now were basically ready to go back to normal (just have to get this Omicron variant under control). We're basically done already and you guys are still fucked up. To be honest, you guys are so bad at this I would support a mandate if I were you.

>> No.19525699

>>19525686
>Well then how about fucking deaths?
god laughs when an american dies

>> No.19525703

>>19525686
If you hadn't been told this virus exists you quite literally would not have even noticed that a small percentage of old people were dying lol.

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>>19525649
For a long time they said you couldn’t spread it if you’ve been vaccinated. Straight up just lied.

>> No.19525713

>>19525660
>plato deboonked democracy
Yeah pretty much
>appeals to authority but doesn't explain the refutation
If you read the fucking Republic I wouldn't have to now would I? it's basic shit. You can probably find a free lecture about it on fucking YouTube if you really can't be fucking asked to read it.
>uses adhominem descriptions of people who disagree with your position
>translation: wahhhh wahhh stop making fun of me!!!! waaahhh!!
I'm not making a fucking argument dick head, you guys are retarded, simple as. You would rather we all die then you lose your precious freedoms for one fucking second. This is moment in history will serve as the ultimate proof that liberalism, especially when it's for the fucking masses, rots your brain.
>implying Americans live in a democracy, not a corporate oligarchy mislabeled as a democratic republic
Whatever it is, it's failed them.

>> No.19525716

>>19525703
This.
>>19525706
They've done nothing but lying.

>> No.19525727

>>19525583
200 years of propaganda that made these bugmen swear by a ridiculous concept ("Progress"), which is only really achievable by a carefully managed and organized society, in which everyone chips in to further the advancement of science and technology (to what end, no one knows)

>> No.19525728

>>19525681
Not saying I agree with the connotation, thats basically the one thats been built however.

>> No.19525733

>>19525727
The how is the interesting part but I guess the non direct contributers are the guniea pigs so to speak

>> No.19525736

>>19525727
>(to what end, no one knows)

Chicks with dicks, obviously.

>> No.19525747

>>19525727
That's what I dont get either. If they just wanted wealth and power theyd be better served by governing a bit more sensibly. It's almost like they're sadists, or nobody is in charge at all, or insane people are in charge.

>> No.19525751

>>19525699
Americans really do hate themselves huh?
>>19525706
Fuck off dickhead, no one ever said that.
Oh wow! big shocker! The vaccine isn't a magic wand! it isn't 100% effective! did you know that?! huh!? did you?!
Yes! Yes! Yeah, retard, we fucking knew that already! but it's still fucking effective nonetheless! together with masking, herd immunity, and social distancing we can fucking end this already. Stop being so fucking selfish.
Fuck fuck fuck, my brain is actually melting. I've said this exact same shit over and over again and you guys still don't get it! where are you all coming from with these shitty arguments? who's spawning and sending you? Tucker Carlson? Alex Jones? Joe Rogan? /pol/? Fuck.

>> No.19525755

>>19525471
>implying "qualified, intelligent experts" can be a possible product of a defunct democrocacy circling the drain of tyranny

lmaoin at retards who think meritocracy can birth from the stillborn fucking womb of modernity

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>>19525376
If you view this whole ‘pandemic’ situation through the lens of health, safety, science and saving lives, then most of it makes little sense. If you view it through the lens of money, power, control, and wealth transfer, then all of it makes perfect sense.

Covid is not an epidemiological story. Covid is a crime story.

They needed the lockdowns. They needed the lockdowns to be long, destructive and depressing. They need everyone to be scared of more lockdowns so that they can say, “To avoid further lockdowns you need to accept Vaccine Passports.”

The lockdowns, mandatory muzzles, anti-social distancing and the other measures did nothing to protect or improve public health- they were never designed to do so. They were all designed to deliberately break the global economy (and crush competition, especially small businesses) as well as break people’s minds, will and the social fabric, in order to “build back better”, according to the diabolical and dystopian visions of the psychopaths waging this class war, which is essentially a billionaires utopia, in which they own the planet like a techno-feudal fiefdom, and oversee the drastically reduced population of digitally branded humanity like cattle in a super-surveilled technocracy.

The injections are the Trojan horse to get us in the door of that digital concentration camp (as well as the metaphorical gas chambers), starting with vax-ports, followed by digital IDs, and then connected to CBDC accounts and UBI scrip, which will allow them to track our every move and purchase, and “nudge” us toward whatever medical, dietary, or lifestyle choices they desire, at threat of having our rations reduced, or, if we misbehave too badly, being shut out of the system altogether. They’re specifically targeting kids and young people most of all, deliberately inflicting mass trauma on them, because they’re the ones who’ll grow up in that New Normal™, and the goal is to condition them to accept total control over every aspect of their lives and a dehumanized screen-based existence, to the point where they won’t remember living any other way, breathing free, being free.

All talk of so-called efficacy of these poison injections are meaningless distractions and quite besides the (existentially urgent) point when you understand that the virus/disease they’re allegedly designed to protect against doesn’t exist in the first place and, additionally, what their real, above-mentioned purpose(s) is.

It’s blackmail on a global scale.

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>>19525751
>it's still fucking effective nonetheless! together with masking, herd immunity, and social distancing we can fucking end this already. Stop being so fucking selfish.

>> No.19525787

>>19525751
>j-just two more weeks bro!! trust the plan bro!!!
>oh no another ebin nu omega giga variant popped up in a country with 99% vaccination rates but somehow this must be the republicans fault

>> No.19525790

>>19525751
I would like to make a sociological note here about how it is exclusively progs who pepper their speech with "fuck" in this manner.

>> No.19525791
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>>19525686
Being antivax is fucking retarded, but so is being provax. Generally speaking, putting all vaccines in the same basket is a losing strategy. 99% of vaccines are for very serious conditions that, in most cases, are life threatening, and favor the vaccine in terms of risk reward ratio (e.g. Tetanus)

Vaccines against coronaviruses in general are unlikely to produce 100% protection due to the nature of the virus itself. That much is known from historic data. People like you are choosing to ignore the fuckery related to the availability of options for vaccines against covid-19.
>no HISTORIC data of such vaccines being effective
>no LONG TERM testing data
>Unreliable studies where Pfizer/Moderna have failed to produce reliable placebo/base line groups
>vaccines offer limited protection if any
>Side effects which are orders of magnitude more dangerous than the virus in healthy young individuals
>waning efficacy (if any - look at Gibraltar, Isreal, Netherlands, Denmark)
>hamfisted attempt at vaccination during a pandemic. (efficacy of mRNA vaccines went from 98% to 50% because of "muh variants")

Even if the vaccines in general, be it mRNA or adenovirus vector, are actually doing something positive for humanity in general, it's no surprise the virus is mutating. That's what coronaviruses do. The vaccines are being fucking marketed as the silver bullet for solving this issue, which absolutely isn't true.
Based on the actual efficacy, these 'vaccines' should be classified as prophylactic therapeutics according to the guidelines of most health organizations around the world.
On top of everything, they're using novel technology. Why the fuck would you want to beta test with your body and not even get paid for it?

>> No.19525798

>>19525751
you sound mentally unstable

>> No.19525800

>>19525471
You've never read Plato

>> No.19525803

>>19525376
This is one of the subtle and unstoppable effects of centralized information control--social media, and the internet in general. Powerful narratives are embedded in almost everything we have, do, read, or see. The effect is that dissent, open discussion/debate, or even calm reflection on costs/benefits is basically impossible.
This is why I think people should stop watching the news and stop using social media altogether.

>> No.19525805

>>>/pol/
what a retarted thread.

>> No.19525808

>>19525791
>>Side effects which are orders of magnitude more dangerous than the virus in healthy young individuals
source?

>> No.19525811

>>19525755
This. Chomksy in the OP is the prefect example of what qualifies as worthwhile amongst the modern """"intellectual"""" caste. A group financed and supported for the sole purpose of, quite ironic when you consider Chomsky's most famous work, manufacturing consent.

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It’s imperative that everyone stop ceding ground to these fascists by reifying the Big Lie that the alleged “SARS-CoV-2” virus even exists, that it causes a disease called “Covid-19”, and that it is responsible for a global pandemic. That only fortifies the narrative by implying that any extra-ordinary response was ever necessary, that a single one of their “public health” diktats was legitimate, and that any of these poison injections are designed to protect anyone from anything, let alone the absurdity that they’ve saved a single life.

This has never had anything to with what is nothing more than a computer-generated genome falsely attributed to a novel pathogen. It is a global conspiracy by the worlds transnational ruling class which was planned out and war-gamed at the WEF, the central bankers summit in Jackson Hole, and at Event 201. It’s all right there for anyone to look up and see for themselves. It is about radically transforming every aspect of society in response to the final crisis of capitalism, which was no long profitable or sustainable,transitioning to the new digital financial system, implementing the technologies of the so-called 4th Industrial Revolution, and exterminating and sterilizing broad swathes of the “useless eaters” and now-surplus labor/population, who in old crises would be sent off to war, which is too risky today with weapons of mass destruction that could blow up the world a hundred times over. Today they’re accomplishing the same thing through the bio-medical weapons of mass destruction of “covid” measures (isolation, medical malpractice, sedation, ventilation, manufactured unemployment, neglect, austerity, etc.) and poison injections.

>> No.19525819

>>19525435
When 93 years old you reach, look so good you will not

>> No.19525820

>>19525791
There's a lot of money being made for certain people with all of this. Where I live, the city government mandated covid testing for unvaccinated government employees, with a mandatory cost of $260 per paycheck being sent to employees who are testing. The owner of the company selected to perform the testing is a political donor of multiple city politicians who selected the company, and the company was selected without a competitive bidding process (i.e. no other companies were considered).

>> No.19525823

>>19525441
>I'm 105
nobody asked for your iq, midwit

>> No.19525826

>>19525471
>he forgets that Plato said tyranny was worse than democracy
Retard.

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>>19525713
I have read it.
I don't think you have, hence the appeal to authority in lieu of any actual arguments.
Gee, I wonder why a guy who lived under "a democracy" in which only a small percentage of the population were allowed to participate and whose mentor was condemned to execution by the Athenian policymakers didn't like democracy.

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I cannot imagine a scenario where I get something that benefits me greatly (let's say a vaccine), and then I expend a great deal of energy to make everyone else receive it as well, despite their consistent efforts to shun me and repeated rejection.
Nor can I imagine betting my well-being and prosperity on whether I can persuade an entire society to act in a specific way and receive the same medical treatment as me.
There is something wicked and sickly going on these days.

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>>19525699
>>19525703
>>19525791
LMAO I'm shook that ya'll are still replying to this obvious troll. People act like /pol/tards are stupid but they would not have fallen for his low effort reddit tier bait. Come on boys.

>> No.19525861

>>19525556
>my opinion on covid and everything that came along with it is just a blob in my mind
same here. all i can tell is that it's making people even more retarded. all i see on twitter these days is seemingly intelligent, well-read people of various political stripes that i originally followed because they seemed relatively sane posting shit to the effect of
>oh my god [person] is [not] anti-vaxx? how can anyone [not] be anti-vaxx in 2021??? [person] is dead to me
this shit ate everyone's brain apparently, nothing else matters to them anymore. like we needed another reason to consider someone you actually agree with on most things a mortal enemy

>> No.19525870

>>19525791
I took the vaccine, 2 TIMEs and I'm fucking fine. I might take a 3rd time just out of fucking spite. Where are the people dying? If /pol/ is right where are all the people dropping like flies from the vaccine? Fuck, just use logic for once in your damn lives.
>>19525798
Who's more mentally unstable? the guys who would let the whole world die before they wore a fucking piece of cloth around their face or the guy who sits back for a second and chills while this whole thing dies down so we can get back to normal.
>>19525800
>>19525828
No u.
See how that works? Refute my fucking position like a man instead of ad homing me, bucko. If you want to crack open Republic right now we can go buddy, otherwise fuck off! It's honestly fucking hilarious, you are so mad right now because you know I'm right, Plato would be on the side of the experts and not the midwit losers on 4chan! hahahahahahahahahaha!
>>19525826
Good thing we aren't in a fucking state of tyranny idiot.

>> No.19525876

>>19525848
I dont think he's trolling but even if he is what does it matter when the position is he taking is indeed the offical stance of our governments.

>> No.19525893

>>19525861
This is rather different than previous culture war stuff. They are giving us curfews, not letting us into stores, not letting us leave the country even. I mean that actually affects you.

>> No.19525894

>>19525747
This has happened before take the late Roman Empire and the First French Republic as examples but there are many others. The political unit is unstable and thus everything is corrupted by the way it could be potentially weaponized for power and wealth, wealth which of course will be used as political capital. Everyone is interested in carving out their own spheres on influence damn the bigger picture. Take the "Summer of Love" where mob violence and endless lockdowns were were used as leverage to intimidate voters into voting for JRB instead of DJT. The only thing anyone cares about is getting their piece and being indispensable to whoever the new God is. It always ends the same, a civil war ending in either the rise of a Caesar or total collapse into irrelevance. One thing is for sure the only way things get better is with the demise of the US intelligence agencies.

>> No.19525896

>>19525870
>the guys who would let the whole world die
But that's obviously not going to happen. There are places that have more or less just ignored the entire thing and they're fine.

>> No.19525903

>>19525751
>Oh wow! big shocker! The vaccine isn't a magic wand! it isn't 100% effective! did you know that?! huh!? did you?!

So this is what you boys call cope huh?

>> No.19525904

>>19525870
>Refute my fucking position like a man
Your position is to ignore the corruption / conflicts of interest and tell people to read plato.
That's like the flat earthers who, when presented with trigonometry that shows why their empirical understanding is flawed, respond with "just watch this 8 hour bitchute video bro"

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>>19525376
>why can't there be a discussion between two sides who have different ideas
Time is running out, the economic damage is too high. Furthermore, huge breeding grounds for the virus speeds up Covid evolution. And obligatory vaccinations were a thing in the past, including in democratic societies. They weren't enforcing vaccinations, people could pay a fine for not vaccinating. That alone would make a huge difference, because only a small hard core would pay hundreds of dollars or euros for not vaccinating.

>> No.19525916

My dad was vaxxed because he's in his 60's, but my parents have insisted I don't because of a risk of anaphylaxis (I have a handful of medical and other allergies) and because I'm relatively low risk due to my age group. I'm cautious and don't go out too much as a result, I don't just deny the vaccine and act like the wuhan coronavirus isn't real. But it disturbs me when they have to start going to the dictionary and redefine the word vaccine because it's low efficacy. I saw the stuff about the critiques saying you shouldn't do a vaccine at the beginning of a pandemic before it has had time to mutate, and that makes sense to me, but it's also being peddled by nobel prize winners who also have peddled water memory and other unverifiable science. I'm not sure what to believe, but I don't exactly trust the tv news telling me to get vaccinated when they also run commercials for the pharmaceutical giants behind the vaccines.

>> No.19525921

I think the virus should be treated with caution but I'm appalled at the regression in freedom of speech, human rights, and civic virtues that's occurring in some places. I lost what would have been crucial years of my life to lockdowns and restrictions, and everyone in my situation is just told to get over it or not even considered.

>> No.19525936

>>19525471
>here in Canada
Opinion immediately discarded

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>>19525703
If we ignored the virus it would have killed way more people. We are flattening the curve right now.
>>19525772
>>19525787
> *New disease pops up*
> We should do something about this
> uhhhhhh!!! Again!!??? come on!! We did this already last time!
> Yeah, I understand but dude, this is serious. We have to do something.
> Just leave it alone and forget about it, it'll go away.
> People will fucking die.
> Uhhhh!!! whatever, I just want to get muh hair cut!
Fucking defeatist.
>>19525790
I'll say fuck as many times as I fucking want I don't give a fuck, fucker, now fuck off.
>>19525848
> Trump meme
cringe.
Why would I be b8ing anyway? do you thing 4chan is the anti-vaxxers & covid-deniers only club. God you guys really are a fucking hive mind echo chamber. It's not even /pol/ anymore, you've spread everywhere. Honestly I should be calling you guys the b8rs because you are literally speaking in long discredited talking points. It's not even an argument at this point, still I know sadly well enough that you guys are sincerely this seriously misinformed.

>> No.19525942

>>19525808
not that anon, but it was discussed in an FDA committee meeting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzUQmO0KTLA
if you want the full presentation that's still up on the FDA youtube channel, it starts at 4:20:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M#t=4h20m15s

>> No.19525951

>>19525937
>would have killed way more people
Not enough to actually matter or in any way justify what they're doing.

>> No.19525955

>>19525870
>Good thing we aren't in a fucking state of tyranny idiot.

yes we are retard

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I WON'T GET THE FAUCI OUCHIE
VACCINE MAKES MY BLOODSTREAM NASTY
MY IMMUNE SYSTEM WILL PROTECT ME
GOD PLEASE MAKE IT KILL THE LEFTIES

>> No.19525987

>>19525870
>so we can get back to normal.

Forcing people to wear masks everywhere and to get drugs injected into their bodies in order to keep their jobs seems pretty fucking far from normal to be frank.

>> No.19526012

>>19525376
I live in Australia. A retarded minority are against the lockdowns and other measures. This is democracy. Fuck off to /pol/

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>>19525904
Nice fucking cop out, asshole. You accuse me of not having fucking read Plato and then when I ask you to argue from the text whether Plato would or wouldn't have been for the experts being in charge in this case you immediately say that you suddenly don't have time to. Wow! Fucking wow!
If you didn't have time to discuss literature, why the fuck are you even on the /lit/erature board? You're bringing the quality way fucking down, idiot. Again, if didn't have time to, why did you even (You) me, huh? Just admit that YOU, in fact, are the one who has never read Plato which is why the task I'm asking you to do seems so fucking ridiculous to you. It's because I'm essentially asking you to read an entire book just to argue with me, whereas, If you actually did fucking read it, it would be emminently clear which are the relevent passages and all you'd have to do is turn to those pages and skim them to make an argument. Get fucking exposed, idiot. Go spew your propaganda somewhere else (and by somewhere else I mean /pol/, where you fucking belong).
>>19525936
Ok? die then you stupid fucking Yank. hahahaha.

>> No.19526021

>>19526012
>democracy is the masses mindlessly obeying what the elites tell them out of unthinking fear, and then pretending they chose it themselves
Correct

>> No.19526029

>>19526016
It's a mild cough for almost everybody. All of this is over a mild cough

>> No.19526032

>>19526016
Imagine being so cowardly that you wouldn't risk death to preserve your liberty.

>> No.19526056

>>19525434
Maybe, just maybe you should go back to r*ddit

>> No.19526064

>>19525376
Blame CCP and greedy western corporations. Make no mistake OP this IS a cosmic reckoning.

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>>19525686
>>19525937

>> No.19526071

>>19526029
Clogged ICUs retard

>> No.19526073

>>19526071
lol

>> No.19526075

>>19526073
Nice memepost lmfao

>> No.19526079

>>19526075
O. K.

>> No.19526086

>>19525686
>Now were basically ready to go back to normal (just have to get this Omicron variant under control)
Delicious bait. Worth the (You)

>> No.19526089

>>19526056
What's that supposed to mean?

>> No.19526090

>>19525603
>all while worshipping Communist dictators.
chomsky is anti communist you tard

>> No.19526097

>this board is filled with overspecialised retards that took the “vaccine”
Lmao, Kaczynski was so right, it’s amazing.

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>>19525916
>But it disturbs me when they have to start going to the dictionary and redefine the word vaccine because it's low efficacy
Roll the clock back ~100 years and the talking point would be 'they've changed the definition of vaccination' because vaccination has been broadened to include artificially induced immunity. Getting bogged down in semantics is for midwits

>> No.19526099

>>19526071
This never happened and who even cares, just build some more of them in advance

>> No.19526102

>>19526097
Kaczynski was an aspie who couldn't cope. He wasn't right about anything outside of a small group of harmless people lmao

>> No.19526108

>>19526099
pol has rotted your brain

>> No.19526117

>>19526102
You can keep telling yourself that, but you’re doing the systems job for it. Bringing about that ZTS social credit tech, and you don’t even know it.

>> No.19526118

>>19526108
Not an argument is it. You have spent 2 years terrified of getting a cold and you're telling me I have the rotted brain

>> No.19526139

>>19526098
This.

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>>19526071
hurrrrr everyone that disagrees with me is a trumpsupporterrrgobacktopol!!!!!

>> No.19526150

>>19525597
Chomsky's work Manufacturing Consent is still an amazing work.

>> No.19526166

>>19525649
If Chomsky doesn't think they do anything else then that quote is just the senile rambling of a sad old man.

>> No.19526175

>>19525870
>Good thing we aren't in a fucking state of tyranny idiot.
We're in the crossing stage between democracy and tyranny retard. The whole argument that I was replying to was that it's good that we're in an authoritarian government, meaning that my response was completely valid.

Learn to read.

>> No.19526177

>>19525942
thanks anon I'll check it out

>> No.19526184

>>19526098
>>19526139
No, because the end result of the vaccination was still inoculation. They have changed the definition to lessened severity. That is not including a new way of achieving that immunity, it is changing the definition so as not to be about immunity.
It is not simple semantics. You have taken untested jabs and still have to worry about catching it, wearing masks, being fucking topped up like a retard.
Enjoy the rest of your short lives, you dip shits.

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>> No.19526206

I'm so tired of authoritarian leftists

>> No.19526207

>>19525937
one of the thing that actually gets my goat is how authorities (particularly in europe) have spent decades gutting health care systems but suddenly can blame overload on unvaxxed. like the germans reducing ICU capacity last year and then using risk to ICU capacity as a justification for their vaxx mandates

>> No.19526214

>>19526206
I'm so tired of political compass retards

>> No.19526218

>>19526206
They are making civility extremely difficult. Like the Boston mayor announced that she might mandate vaccines for private employers and I just don't get it.

>> No.19526224

>>19526098
but that is actually important, since basically everybody associates the word "vaccination" with "inoculation", so when the definition of vaccination quietly changes to include a prophylaxis most are still going to associate the newly defined "vaccination" with "inoculation" but now the authorities can say "oh, well, we never said it would inoculate you", but there is a deliberate manipulation of branding that is pure cynicism

>> No.19526229

>>19526206
you're watching the unfettered rule of authoritarian capitalism and you're blaming leftists

>> No.19526230

>>19526207
This lol, hospitals in the us are DESIGNED to be full and understaffed, it's a miracle they work during regular times

>> No.19526236

>>19526229
t. reddit nigger
kill yourself female

>> No.19526257

>>19526229
Capitalism is not really fond of the government making it illegal to do business

>> No.19526262

>>19526229
Well I will refer you to the OP, people on the left, or at least useful to the left, have all been siding with the COVID tyranny or basically keeping quiet, and all push back on so-called anti vaxxers are coming from predominantly left-leaning places. What do you expect us to think?
Where is your resistance to any of this? The only people who are speaking out are instantly framed as far-right.

>> No.19526264

>>19526236
that guy points out your illiteracy and you call him reddit, yep im thinkin you should go back
>>19526257
cunt are you retarded? there has been a significant and abnormal upward transfer of wealth since the start of 2020

>> No.19526270

>>19526264
>capitalism is when rich people get more rich by any means
Its supposed to be about wage labor

>> No.19526278

>>19526270
and?

>> No.19526298

>>19526264
lets blame capitalism as the female-brained leftists tyranny takes hold.

>> No.19526299

>>19525770
Good post.

>> No.19526309

>>19526298
Please keep these sort of boomerisms to facebook and /pol/. Thanks.