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19524563 No.19524563 [Reply] [Original]

>virtue is a form of mental illness
Were they right?

>> No.19524576

I have The Idiot on my shelf but I've never read it. Should I do it right now?

>> No.19524586
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>> No.19524590

yes, precisely because (((mental illness))) isn't a real thing, it's an arbitrary social construct invented to delineate profundity and passion as heterodox and socially untenable. faggot crabs in a bucket, anyone who climbs out of the bucket needs to be forcefully medicated and so on

>> No.19524608

>>19524576
Sure. It’s not Dosto’s best by any measure but it has a few great nuggets

>> No.19524693

>>19524576
All of his big works are worth reading, but I agree with the other anon: I've read TBK, C&P, Notes, and The Idiot and Idiot was my least favorite. It is still brilliant though. Most authors would give their left nut to have published the "worst" of Dosto.

>> No.19524809

>>19524590

I used to work in a locked ward. Every other patient thought of themselves that way.

The truth is they were mostly potheads who could barely get through a book. But they always thought that they were misunderstood geniuses with profound insights into the nature of reality.

>> No.19524880

>>19524693
>TBK, C&P, Notes
I have read those already, too.

>> No.19524901
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No, virtue is the external manifestation of transcendence of the sensory plane. It is also the foundation of the path to that same transcendence. If you can't even restrain your body, how can you ever go beyond it?

>> No.19524935

>>19524901
I think you're confusing virtue and discipline. You're not virtuous just because you held yourself from pigging out on greasy food. Many virtues are anything but healthy, bravery and heroism often lead to bodily injury and even death.

>> No.19524937

>>19524563
Am I missing something, bros? I tried to read Don Quijote but I found it so unbearably boring and repetitive. I read the first 11 eleven chapters and then I put it down. Every single chapter went exactly the same.
>Don Quijote meets a normal group of people
>mistakes them for villains or peasants in dire need of le ebin hero knight
>MUH DULCINEA
>Don Quijote gets hurt in some way
The constant references to Spanish capeshit books are also tiring. I get that it's supposed to be a mockery of the stereotipical capeshit books of that time and the Arthurian mythos but it's still annoying.

>> No.19524950

>>19524935
>You're not virtuous just because you held yourself from pigging out on greasy food
Temperance is quite literally a virtue.

>> No.19525041

>>19524935
>You're not virtuous just because you held yourself from pigging out on greasy food.
Yes you are?

>Many virtues are anything but healthy, bravery and heroism often lead to bodily injury and even death.
Yes, they rise above the crass demands of the body and flesh for pleasure and continued survival. What is that if not transcendence

>> No.19525047

>>19524576
Yes, I'm still in love with the women in that book.

>> No.19525063

>>19524901
if you're gonna larp as buddhist at least read mahayana

>> No.19525095

>>19524950
>>19525041
I think the keyword is “just”. You can be disciplined but still give in heavily to vice

>> No.19525145

>>19525095
>You can be disciplined but still give in heavily to vice
???

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>>19525063
>mahayana

>> No.19525190

>>19524901
Larping with the pajeet religions

>> No.19525203

>>19525145
Many don’t acknowledge their vices, so even with the discipline to potentially overcome it they refuse to see their vices as they are.
IE Someone gives up unhealthy food to lose weight but still drinks alcohol excessively