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A thread for sharing authors, books on male beauty, books on homo-fascism, nooks on homo-islamism, and wharever you like

>> No.19518180

fuck off fag

>> No.19518373
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>>19517741

>> No.19519331

>>19517741
>age discrepancy
>wants to appreciate male beauty
you failed the moment you began, you disgusting pederast.

>> No.19519353

>>19517741
He has cute lips and I'd love to cum on his freckles

>> No.19519382

There isn't a good reason for it or to engage in it or to desire it. I suggest you seek mental help. I'm not a homosexual but I've suffered from straight porn addiction and relations with women solely for the sex it has been a burden on my life. The hypersexuality with homosexuality seems similar and equally bad. Just focus your life on better things. It's just disgusting filth at the end of the day.

>> No.19519436

>>19517741
Are there any aspects of gay culture that don't have to do with sex?

>> No.19519474

>>19519331
>adult male in his 20s
>you disgusting pederast

Imagine being this stupid

>> No.19520044

>>19519436
Gay culture only exists due to heterosexual intolerance. The only difference between straight male culture and gay culture is gays like men. That becomes an identity or as they use to say a “lifestyle” when heteros get offended on hand holding or kissing or feel offended because god didn’t make Adam and Steve.

My question for you is what material difference is there between say gay men and straight men. One likes dick and one likes pussy. Really just a sexual difference…therefore any difference labeled a cultural difference will only revolve around sex.

>> No.19520155

>>19519474
>1. looks like a late teen
>2. looks like the hand of a 50 year old man
My point stands, even if the youth is in his early 20s.

>> No.19520402

>>19517741
Start with the Greeks

>> No.19520838
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I was bored, so I decided to make fake Penguin covers for some gay books.

>> No.19520856

>>19520838
Based? I made one for the Immoralist which I’ll post when I get back on my computer. Maybe I’ll make a bunch for old obscure medieval gay lit

>> No.19520977

>>19517741
That's a little boy

>> No.19520985

>>19517741
Hogg

>> No.19520988

>>19520977
How?

>> No.19521049

>>19520155
Amerigoy moment

>> No.19521064

>>19520977
He looks no younger than the female tiktok thots that get spammed around here

>> No.19521080

>>19520988
No facial hair and the shape of the face

>> No.19521083

Gaychads. Why are we so fucking based and redpilled?

>> No.19521094

>>19519436
Most of the gay men you know, you have no idea they are gay. Not a clue.

>> No.19521103

>>19520985
This

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>> No.19521119

>>19519436
Hmm gee, maybe it has to do with the fact that the entire culture only exists because of the sexuality and the fact it makes you different. Retard.

>> No.19521123

>>19521106
Why are the most misogynistic cultures also gay?

>> No.19521189

>>19521123
Because they end up creating a reasoning that only men can truly understand other men's feelings/love, and that women are only suitable to generate heirs and do housework.

>> No.19521193

>only two redpilled replies calling out the fags
why is /lit/ so fucking gay?

>> No.19521202

>>19521193
bluepilled replies you mean. anyone who reads enough of the western canon eventually develops a taste for male pleasures

>> No.19521208

>>19521193
>Redpilled
>Cuntoid lover
Choose one

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>>19520977
>>19521080
You can tell an insecure female in her late twenties wrote this. This is the argument women use to cope with the fact they're getting old and ugly

>> No.19521267

>>19521253
He looks twelve anon

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>> No.19521277

>>19521193
Let’s not kid ourselves reading and studying literature is gay. How many straight men enjoy reading and how many enjoy reading literarure.

Of course 4chan is a dumping ground for fascists and trads. Rather funny when they land here and become annoyed there are so many “fags” here. How is it my fault they chose a fucking gay hobby.

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>>19521267
So what? That makes it better

>> No.19521301

>>19517741
>To smoke, it is to be the slave of tobacco
Why do French speakers talk in such an absurd manner?

>> No.19521360

All books are gay

>> No.19521394

>>19520856
Please do, Anon

>> No.19521404

>>19517741
Confessions of a Mask - Mishima

>> No.19521438

Homosexual literature, but I repeat myself

>> No.19521458

>>19517741
Home at the end of the world - Michael Cunningham
Lie with Me - Phillip Besson

>> No.19521648

>>19520838
>all these books suck
>half even written by women kek

Guess I will have to write it myself.

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>>19517741
today I’ll remind the abominations. AIDS and diapers await

>> No.19521685

>>19517741
Well homosexuality shortens your lifespan worse than cigarettes so I guess this cover is fitting

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>>19520838
>>19520856
>>19521394
Found it

>> No.19521696

>>19521404
this is a must read

>> No.19521703

>>19521648
>doesn't enjoy Yourcenar and Renault
Imagine being this filtered.

>> No.19521708

>>19521676
>traditioninaction.org
>73% of psychiatrists say...
>78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs
>50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals
>only 9% of homosexuals live past age 65
>33% of homosexuals admit to minor/adult sex
>This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
>73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 (so? most homosexuals have had sex, probably when they were 18, with another 18 year old)?
These statistics are so ludicrous I imagine they are leftist false flag to make right-wingers look ridiculous

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>>19521708
seethe, cope, dilate and literally shake. Enjoy your aids and diapers faggot

>> No.19521776

>>19521718
Seethe in silence. You are annoying.

>> No.19521802

>>19521776
Nature is split into feminine and masculine origins. Life is perpetuated through matter, matter comes out of the clash of the opposites, not only physically, but also mentally.
If a subject is incapable of participating in this clash of opposites, he is dysfunctional and likely a fragment of entropy.
Accepting homosexuality is the equivalent of accepting entropy, which is unacceptable from the perspective of matter that seeks structure to achieve greatness.

Accepting entropy is the equivalent of accepting degradation, destruction, death, collapse, ugliness, dysfunction.

>> No.19521805

>>19521802
Just deal with and fuck off

>> No.19521815

>>19521802
>Accepting entropy is the equivalent of accepting degradation, destruction, death, collapse, ugliness, dysfunction

Seems alright to me

>> No.19521826

>>19521805
There are currently two competining models of sexual morality

1. sex is for making babies
>using this logic, everything from masturbation, homosexuality, pedophilia, etc is wrong
>logical and consistent, albeit it requires a lot of self control

2. sex is for fun
>using this logic, if you use condoms/hormonal birth control or partake in non-vaginal sex (blowjobs, etc), it's ok
>uh..unless it's animals? or kids...I think? Wait, why not? I can fuck anything as long it consents, right?

Basically, if you don't keep sex to making babies, society WILL eventually try to fuck everything that exists including dead people, children, and animals.

>> No.19521830

>>19521815
Of course, you’re an abomination. Everything that goes against being a healthy human probably seems alright to you

>> No.19521832

>>19521802
>>19521826
Start with the Greeks

>> No.19521835

>>19521826
>Basically, if you don't keep sex to making babies, society WILL eventually try to fuck everything that exists including dead people, children, and animals

And that's bad because...?

>> No.19521841

>>19521835
disease to name one

>> No.19521845

>>19521835
Because it hurts my feelings

>> No.19521853

>>19521835
Let's look at homosexuality through the lens of evolution.

All organisms are evolved to exhibit a system of behaviors that maximize the reproduction of genes. If a behavior, directly or indirectly, achieves this end, it will be favored by the group. Human examples are altruism, religion, and family building. On the other hand, if a behavior is deleterious to the group, it will be scorned. Homosexuality is damaging in that it does not facilitate reproduction, it spreads disease at a much higher rate than the heterosexual population, and it disrupts the commonly accepted social system between men and women. Additionally, homosexuals are several orders of magnitude more likely to have been molested as children, to further molest other children, and to engage in hypersexual activity to an extreme that instinctually repulses the general public.

This instinctual repulsion presents not only in response to homosexuality, but also to any other physical or mental disease, like severe congenital deformity, or psychopathy. Anything that hinders normal sexual reproduction will inevitably be shunned. The expression of this evolved mechanism can be clearly seen in all major religions, each of which damns homosexuality (as well as lying, murder, adultery, theft, and blasphemy) because it serves to injure the group in terms of genetic reproduction.

That's the argument against homosexuality. Now, please, fuck off and dilate.

>> No.19521855

>>19521830
Imagine seething this much over nothing lmao

>> No.19521856

>>19520044
> Gay culture only exists due to heterosexual intolerance
Is intolerance the only thing that can cause the creation and propagation of new cultures?

>> No.19521862

>>19521853
Alright, you made your point. Now fuck off from our gay thread

>> No.19521868

>>19521855
imagine having aids lol and wearing a diaper at 35 due to being fucked in the ass hundreds of times

>> No.19521876

>>19521868
You really are a closeted gay man, huh?

>> No.19521887

>>19521862
>you made your point
Oh I’ve got a few more. Its not just that its disgusting and spreads disease but more importantly the underlying philosophical world-view which is hedonism leads to an inevitable downfall of the degeneracy-slippery-slope. If fun is your highest virtue than yeah there is nothing wrong with gay sex. In short its not just about the gay sex but rather about what kind of underlying world-view it promotes which would make such behavior acceptable which in turn would make many other things acceptable which lead to the downfall of individuals, family, society and civilizations.

>> No.19521895

>>19521887
How nice of you. Can you leave now?

>> No.19521897

>>19521826
> if you don't keep sex to making babies, society WILL eventually try to fuck everything that exists including dead people, children, and animals.
There is no anthropological evidence to support this. There have always been people who like gay sex, the same with how you can observe some animals having gay sex - some of them do it, and they don’t need any sort of check to stop them from fucking other species or corpses because it’s just a naturally occurring thing among a percentage of their group.
Are there any animals who start fucking corpses because some of them started fucking the same sex? Like what model or evidence are you working with here, because we have a whole animal kingdom and all of human history to look at with respect to sexual behaviour.

>> No.19521899

>>19521876
>le you are disgusted by gays so you must be one
you abominations haven’t come up with any new arguments for a long time. I guess I must want to fuck my garbage too.

>> No.19521905

>>19521853
If there is an instinctual repulsion to homosexuality (as opposed to a socially learned one), why do we find homosexuality so widely practiced in civilisations such as ancient Athens, medieval Arabia, imperial China, imperial Japan, etc.?
>>19521887
>lead to the downfall of individuals, family, society and civilizations.
What about the socially constructive role homosexuality played in ancient Greece? It was considered a nation-building, traditional activity.

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>>19521899

>> No.19521930

>>19521897
Animals do not engage in gay sex. Otherwise show me where two female animals have ever been observed having sex. As for a slippery slope just look at America over the last 10 years. They're letting girls get rapped in Virginia public school bathrooms to allow trannys in

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>>19521930
>Animals do not engage in gay sex.
err, anon...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

>> No.19521950

>>19521905
>widely practiced
It’s not.
>socially constructive
it wasn’t in any way.

If everyone did it would it make humanity better or worse?

If everyone was gay humanity would end. It literally fails upon initial inspection due to this fact.

If you want more than that I would suggest looking into associated mental illness rates, child abuse rates, health impacts, and child raising outcomes for homosexuals compared to heteros.

Homosexuality correlates highly with other mental illnesses.

Despite making up a small percentage of the population homosexuals account for nearly 40% of child abuse cases in the USA.

Homosexual lifestyles are profoundly unhealthy. Many studies citing decreases in average lifespan by 20-30 years.

And lastly children raised by homosexuals experience vastly inferior life outcomes in terms of physical and mental health and economic outcome.

>> No.19521952

>>19521930
Pretty much every species has been documented to engage in homosexuality, some species well off the charts (bonobos). Read a book and get a clue, bro.

>> No.19521957

>>19521945
“Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity."

Did you even read what you posted, idiot? Again show me two lesbian animals observed having sex. You can’t

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Protect your bottom from women.

>> No.19521960

>>19521952
lol wrong but keep believing whatever cnn special told you that

>> No.19521997

But anon, I just really love this guy.
I didn’t chose to fall in love with him and worse I can’t make myself not like him.
Being with him makes me feel warm and comfortable, and to hug him gives infinitely more delight solely already because he is not as meagre and frail as all the girls. When I see him smile my chest gets warm.
To me at least, there is a lot more to gay love than dick and ass. And I bet that’s true for many. Don’t be so carnal.

>> No.19522011

>>19521997
>I didn’t choose
Yes you did. And you’ll burn in hell for your choices

>> No.19522014

>>19521960
Go read a book, you dumbfuck. It's well documented in many species including bonobos and dolphins. Your "lol i don't want it to be true" bullshit won't carry you far.

>> No.19522022

>>19522014
Then show me two lesbian bonobos or dolphins observed having sex. You literally can’t.

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>>19521950
>It’s not.
>it wasn’t in any way.
So do you disagree with Pausanias when he says that:
"In Ionia and in many other places (wherever they live under barbarians) it has customarily been held to be shameful. In the eyes of the barbarians, on account of their tyrannies, pederasty as well as philosophy and the love of gymnastics is shameful; for I suspect that it is not to the advantage of the rulers that great and proud thoughts be engendered among their subjects" (Symposium, 182c)
Or Aristophanes when he said:
"...all who are [slices of the original male] pursue the males; and while they are boys—because they are cutlets of the male—they are friendly to men and enjoying lying down together with and embracing men; and these are the best of boys and lads, because they are naturally the manliest. Some, to be sure, assert that such boys are shameless, but they lie. For it is not out of shamelessness that they do this but out of boldness, manliness, and masculinity, feeling great affection for what is like to themselves." (Symposium, 192a)
>If everyone did it would it make humanity better or worse?
>If everyone was gay humanity would end. It literally fails upon initial inspection due to this fact.
If everyone was a celibate priest humanity would end. Does that make the priesthood immoral? No.
>If you want more than that I would suggest looking into associated mental illness rates, child abuse rates, health impacts, and child raising outcomes for homosexuals compared to heteros.
I have looked into these things and the vast majority of studies show that children raised by homosexual couples fair just as well as those raised by heterosexual couples. Unless there is some reason you want me to ignore those ones? Those ones are wrong. Only the ones that agree with you are right, because your beliefs are correct, a priori.
>Despite making up a small percentage of the population homosexuals account for nearly 40% of child abuse cases in the USA.
This is misleading since it implies men who fuck other men are the same demographic molesting male children, when the two populations don't actually have that much overlap. see pic related

Here is a question, would the human race be better off without homosexuals? Would it be better off without Sappho, Sophocles, Socrates, Caravaggio, Donatello, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Whitman, Turing, etc?
>>19521957
You said "animals do not engage in gay sex" which I disproved, not "the concept of sexual orientation can't easily be applied to most animals" which I never even disagreed with. But there are animals where a significant portion of males do seem to have exclusive homosexual inclinations, such as male rams and black swans. And offspring raised by male-male black swan couples fare better and survive longer than those raised by male-female ones.

>> No.19522045

Niggas will claim to be virtuous and kind but tell homosexuals they have basically no other option besides suicide

>> No.19522082

>>19522011
>The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
Catechism of the Catholic Church 2358

>> No.19522095

>>19522034
>do you disagree with Pausanias when he says that:
Yes
>celebrate priests
Not all priests are celibate many raise family’s. Saying all priests are celibate is completely wrong. And look at the state of the Catholic Church which you seem to think all priests are derived from.
>i’ve looked into studies
As have I and the nuclear family is far better for children. Being raised by gays is similar to being raised by a single parent in that the kids are more likely to be unsuccessful in all areas of life.
>pic related
Yeah nice source
>would the human race be better off without homosexuals
Unironically yes. You’re assumption that the people listed did their works solely due to craving another mans cock is a falsehood.
>animals
They don’t with males it’s domination and there have never been two female animals ever observed having sex. Ever.

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Degeneracy invariably leads to societal decay and the eventual downfall of entire nations. It happened in Rome, it happened in Germany, it happened in the Ottoman Empire, it happened in the British Empire, and now it's happening here. I'm sure there are many other cases I didn't mention that aren't documented well. It defies human nature and causes conflict within the soul, which leads to negativity, weakness, and loss of consciousness. Anything that so obviously defies the natural order of life cannot be acceptable.

>> No.19522104

>>19522082
the catholic church is full of gay pedophiles. If you think I’d accept their dogma you’re barking up the wrong tree

>> No.19522133

>>19522095
>Yes
Wait what? You agree with Pausanias that homosexual relationships engender "great and proud thoughts"?
>As have I and the nuclear family is far better for children. Being raised by gays is similar to being raised by a single parent in that the kids are more likely to be unsuccessful in all areas of life.
The studies I've read show that being raised by a homosexual couple is better than being raised by a single parent. The best predictor of success is having two parents in a stable relationship. Don't you think it would be better for orphaned children to be raised by homosexual couples than to be raised in state homes? This applies even if homosexual relationships actually are inferior to heterosexual ones.
>Unironically yes. You’re assumption that the people listed did their works solely due to craving another mans cock is a falsehood.
But if you removed their love of men they would be very different people. You also frame everything in such carnal terms. It would be reductive if I described Petrarch's love for Laura as mere "craving for pussy". The Sacred Band of Thebes fought side by side with their male lovers to defend their cities. Don't you think that's noble and generative?
>it’s domination
Holy cope
>there have never been two female animals ever observed having sex. Ever.
"Roughly 60% of all bonobo sexual activity occurs between two or more females."

>> No.19522172

>>19522133
>yes
No I disagree with him
>homosexual couples
Men and women fill certain natural roles that two men and two women cannot. An unnatural environment for children is not a good thing.
>remove their love for men
And replace it with love of women? Homosexuality comes about through conditioning.
>no source
Are you even trying?

Mental ilness that evolved from watching copius amounts of pornography or being sexually abused by somebody of the same gender as a child is what leads to being a homosexual.

If a child really is born with a "gay" brain it is a genetic ilness that will often lead to other mental problems such as emotional unstability.

Straight people want to build society because they usually have children they want to pass their sucess onto. Homos are hedonistic leeches. Homo's who adopt children or teach children at school or through media usually teach them values that destruct a stable society.

Also, due to the fact most religions and cultures are traditionally anti homo, homoes are naturally anti religious and exponentially more likely to participate in hedonistc groups and cults like actual satanic churches in calfiornia or wanting money and power and doing shady rituals to join the "Elites".

>> No.19522184

>>19522172
Okay then provide a solution that actually works and actually helps homosexuals

>> No.19522187

>>19522184
Castration and removal from society

>> No.19522190

>>19522187
and there you've lost any reasonable support

>> No.19522194

>>19522190
when China inevitably takes over that’s what gays can look forward to

>> No.19522197

>>19522194
China actually supports fag people, it just doesn't broadcast it as propaganda like zogmerica

>> No.19522221

>>19521868
>all gay men have sex
fucking topkek.

>> No.19522237

>>19521802
>Life is perpetuated through matter, matter comes out of the clash of the opposites
>If a subject is incapable of participating in this clash of opposites
Okay, so life is perpetutated through matter except for when it isn't. You're fucking retarded.

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>>19522172
>Men and women fill certain natural roles that two men and two women cannot. An unnatural environment for children is not a good thing.
But certainly some 'unnatural' environments are better than others? Is it better for an orphaned child to stay in an institution where his chances of having a happy, successful life are significantly lower than his or her peers, or to be adopted by a homosexual couple and given at least some kind of family life, which, statistics suggest, will give him or her basically the same chances of success as a kid raised by a man and woman?
>Homosexuality comes about through conditioning.
>Mental ilness that evolved from watching copius amounts of pornography or being sexually abused by somebody of the same gender as a child is what leads to being a homosexual.
Not really. Most scientific evidence suggests that homosexuality is the result of genetic and hormonal factors. Homosexuals and heterosexuals are, on average, physically distinct in areas such as height, bone structure, brain structure, etc. Studies where observers were shown home videos from the childhood of adult heterosexuals and homosexuals have been able to detect which children were 'pre-gay' with a high degree of accuracy. People subject to situational homosexuality in boarding schools or tribal rituals (like those of the Sambia) do not seem to exhibit an increased incidence of lifelong homosexuality.
>Also, due to the fact most religions and cultures are traditionally anti homo, homoes are naturally anti religious and exponentially more likely to participate in hedonistc groups and cults like actual satanic churches in calfiornia or wanting money and power and doing shady rituals to join the "Elites".
Homos are not anti-religious in societies where religion is not anti-homosexual (and many homosexuals have been pious and orthodox Christians: like Michelangelo, Ludwig II, Umberto II, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Evelyn Waugh, etc.). The contention that "most cultures and religions are traditionally anti-homo" is false, as I've already demonstrated. The Greeks attributed homosexual amours to Zeus, Achilles, Heracles, Apollo, etc. Japanese Buddhists wrote regularly about homosexuality (the 'chigo monogatari' genre of writing from feudal Japan is entirely concerned with homosexual love in monasteries). The Chinese have a god who manages same-sex romance: Tu'er Shen. Religious significance was given to berdache among the Native Americans.

>> No.19522263

>>19521826
Under the former logic, the age of consent should be lower. Otherwise, how is teen pregnancy an issue? Of course, to actually implement that would be dumb. It's not a philosophical matter. Anybody should be able to have sex with any other consenting party. Animals cannot consent due to the inability to communicate complex thought with humans, and children cannot consent by fact of their legal status as someone else's responsibility for their general safety. How, do you reckon, masturbation or homosexuality negatively affect people when conducted in private?

>> No.19522340

Attention girls
/lit/ is for LITERATURE
Take your trash homophobia to /pol/ you dilating tranny fascists

>> No.19522394

>>19517741
Read The Picture of Dorian Gray

>> No.19522416

>>19522394
not really that gay desu.
Maybe to late 19th century menopausing women, but thats it.

>> No.19522421

>>19519436
no, is pure lust, that is the main reason why I oppose it, is bad for the soul

>> No.19522429

>>19522421
>no, is pure lust
How would you know that? Are homosexuals lying when they say they feel the same sense of deep commitment and devotion that heterosexuals do?

>> No.19522723

>>19522421
Christianity is poison for the soul and the brain

>> No.19522732

>>19522095
>it's domination
So is literally every sexual act in the nature. Even human sex is always a question of domination, hence why you can look at any sexual position and your brain subconsciously knows which one is the subject and the "conqueror", only taking into account the position they re in and regardless of who they are.

>> No.19522794

>>19521676
This is brutal. I always thought I was a little bit bisexual, but damn do fags live degenerate and promiscuous lives. It makes me disgusted about the whole thing.

>> No.19522868

>>19522794
Those stats are fake

>> No.19523118

>>19521937
My psychological stress response to seeing a fascist in his underwear is to get hard. Anon - tell us a little about yourself. Boxers or briefs?

>> No.19523130

>>19522197
Nice cope. China is one step away from putting fags in camps along with Muslims for the cheap labor. It would have already but there’s so few it’s not worth the effort

>> No.19523133

>>19522868
cope

>> No.19523138
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>>19523130
>China is one step away from putting fags in camps
Sad. They should return to tradition

>> No.19523146

>>19522263
homosexuality leads to far more horrific cases of disease and shortens lifespan. Masturbation in excess is degrading and lowers ones desire to find a mate

>> No.19523151

>>19522732
So?

>> No.19523161

>>19523138
Well if some leftist professor wrote a book about it, it must be true!

>> No.19523181

>>19523161
Ancient Chinese history books literally have entire chapters devoted to the male lovers of various emperors.

>> No.19523184

>>19522245
>unnatural environments
The most unnatural one is the one where the child is most likely to be molested. Gays should never be allowed around children.
>pre gay
You know the born gay theory has been left behind already. Otherwise how can gender be fluid? Also men that turn gay in prison debunks this.
>religion is not anti homosexual
It is. None of the “pious Christians” ever lived out in the open. Same with every other case you mentioned.

>> No.19523185

>>19523146
These are eugenics type arguments and can be used to justify the abortion of people predisposed to certain illnesses.

Really why do you give a shit who I have sex with?

>> No.19523188

>>19523181
Most elites are degenerates doesn’t make the whole society accepting of said behavior

>> No.19523194

>>19523185
you aren’t predispositinsed to aids and anal worms. I doubt you have any sex fat boy

>> No.19523196

My favourite male on male story is Onnagata by Mishima

>> No.19523202

>>19523184
>The most unnatural one is the one where the child is most likely to be molested. Gays should never be allowed around children.
If that's the case then show me the statistics showing children raised by same-sex couples suffer higher rates of molestation. I'm pretty sure children are way more likely to suffer sexual and physical abuse in state homes and orphanages.
>You know the born gay theory has been left behind already. Otherwise how can gender be fluid? Also men that turn gay in prison debunks this.
No it hasn't. The vast majority of the evidence supports it. Situational homosexuality doesn't 'debunk' it, since men in prison don't "turn gay". When they exit prison they go back to heterosexual sex. Sexual orientation and sexual behaviour are not 1:1.

>> No.19523212

>>19523194
I’ve had sex with men and women. No aids or anal worms tho.

>> No.19523224

Does anyone know of any good literature with erotic elements that's about a main character who has had homosexual experiences in the past (erections to the images of male bodies) but for the most part doesn't think about that ever and identifies as straight because he feels straight but at university or at work or even at high school he meets a guy who awakens weird feelings within him and he has to grapple with them while the guy he meets has decided he's going to seduce the protagonist and the protagonist tries to resist it at first but eventually he gives in and he feels pleasure he never knew existed before then?
Also the protagonist is shorter than the guy and also the protagonist is a bit defensive about his sexuality being straight and that he isn't homosexual and that strays into him being homophobic?
Asking for a friend

>> No.19523226

>arguing with homophobes
Just kill them.

They'd do it to you if the shoe was on the other foot. Just put them in a gas chamber and kill them.

>> No.19523227

>>19523226
Too bad that will never work because of sheer demographic overmatch you retard.

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>>19523226

>> No.19523241

>>19523227
You don't have to be gay to support gays.

>> No.19523245

>>19523212
Well you’ve got something to look forward to due to your degenerate behavior, abomination

>> No.19523251

Homophobes are so rootless. Homos have the entire Western canon behind them... homophobes have.. le bibel

>> No.19523257

>>19523202
>show me statistics
See >>19521676
>the born gay arguments
So I guess gender fluid isn’t real

>> No.19523259

>>19523241
Non-faggots only support faggots performatively for political capital. The second your supposed faggot uprising were to start, that mutual parasitism would die off quite quickly.

>> No.19523261

>>19523241
supporting gays is pretty gay. Do you worship niggers too?

>> No.19523263

>>19523257
Why do you think I would give a fuck about genderfluid tards lmao

>> No.19523265

>>19523259
>Non-faggots only support faggots performatively for political capital.
Yes, everyone else's beliefs are insincere delusions but yours are the noble and inalienable principles of an ubermensch.

>> No.19523266

>>19523257
Can you link actual studies and scientific papers

>> No.19523267

>>19523226
Ironically it’s straights who make gays. My parents were straight and I was never molested.

Most of the homophobes are either repressed or incels. Most straight people don’t care about gays. It’s not in their mind. They’re too busy thinking about girls. So you have to wonder about anybody exerting so much energy to hate someone for literally liking dick. I think they’re mostly incel self loathing types who are pissed at a new social order that they feel glorifies homosexuality and other things and it makes them seethe.

They come here because of the free speech not being well read enough to actually have empathy for others. They sound off with their pseudo statistics and come across dumb as fuck. We argue with them but invariably they probably hate us more.

>> No.19523271

>>19523265
>Everyone else
Your supporters are themselves a minority

>> No.19523275

>>19523271
If you say so.

>> No.19523284

>>19523251
the only thing you have is historical revisionism. I suppose you believe England had black queens too

>> No.19523287

>>19523284
You are the historical revisionist anon.

>> No.19523309

>>19523245
Get over your hate. Your hate is a greater abomination than my sexual behavior.

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>> No.19523319

>>19523224
Cute

>> No.19523330

>>19523319
Do you know anything like that?

>> No.19523334

>>19523330
The Confusions of Young Törleß

>> No.19523343

>>19523330
Brideshead Revisited

>> No.19523352

>>19523334
That doesn't sound romantic, I want something which will make me feel happy
>>19523343
That sounds good but not very erotic, maybe i'll read it I know it's a classic

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>>19517741
>homo-islamism
I will stone you to death, faggot kuffar. "And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," They say, "We are but reformers,""

>> No.19523412
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>>19523364
>There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.
—Sura 52, verse 24
>There will circulate among them young boys made eternal.
—Sura 56, verse 17
>There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls.
—Sura 76, verse 19

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>>19517741
Kys faggot.

>> No.19523458
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>>19523267
I care about my community. You should be killed on sight.

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>>19523226

>> No.19523491
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>>19521708
- Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3462414/
- 10 to 15 percent of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813477
- 1.65% of the US population, account for 83% of the country’s syphilis cases. https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/STD.htm
-Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
- 67.5% of 200 homosexual men but only 16% of 100 heterosexual men were found to be infected with intestinal parasites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1704818/
-The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36%.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6512871/
- Gays are more likely than straight people to have mental illness.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2072932

>> No.19523499

>>19523435
>>19523458
I have never been to one of those. Does being born liking males make you morally responsible for what a tiny minority of other people who like males also do

>> No.19523503

>>19523458
Your logical fallacy is you take extreme exceptions and outliers and make a graphic visual and portray it as normal.
Why are you so stupid?

>> No.19523511

>>19523491
>Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
Research suggests that there is a relation between childhood sexual abuse (CSA) and adulthood nonheterosexual orientation. To explore whether nonheterosexual orientation increases the risk of CSA, we recruited a large sample, added the variable of childhood gender nonconformity (CGNC), and applied the instrumental variable method. We found that heterosexual and nonheterosexual men who were more gender nonconforming in childhood were significantly more likely to report having a history of CSA than their gender-conforming counterparts. There was no relation between CSA and CGNC for heterosexual and nonheterosexual women. The instrumental variable analysis revealed that the increased prevalence of CSA experienced by nonheterosexuals compared with heterosexuals may be due to the influence of sexual orientation on CSA. In sum, the results suggest that nonheterosexuality may increase the risk of childhood sexual abuse.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1079063215618378

tl;dr being a feminine boy puts one at greater risk of being sexually molested. homosexual boys are more likely to be feminine than heterosexual boys. therefore homosexual boys get molested more.

>> No.19523523

>>19523491
>10 to 15 percent of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners.
The cited paper is from 1987, which beyond being old data has a different social environment contributing to LGBT behavior. It's also looking at elder gay man and ignores the fact that despite the higher partner number older men were less likely to engage in more risky sexual behavior, especially anal sex. A more recent study on sexual partners from 2006-2015 across sexual orientations shows that while homosexuals do have more sexual partners on average (~2.4) it's not radically more than the number of sexual partners for homosexual heterosexual and bisexual men (1.5 ) (Dittis et al. 2017).
https://sti.bmj.com/content/93/Suppl_2/A220.1

>> No.19523533

>>19518180
fpbp

degeneracy has no place in a rightly ordered society

>> No.19523540

>>19523533
Start with the Greeks

>> No.19524073

>>19517741
Anyone have that pic of the ripped blond twink holding some old creep by the collar? I feel like there's this one pervy photographer who takes these shots.

>> No.19524081

>>19523540
Homophobes btfo. The pinnacle of antiquity was the gayest culture of the times. Plus, all advanced civilizations and refined cultures accept homosexuality.

It's only barbarian shitholes in the middle east, africa, russia and the southern united states that don't

>> No.19524109

>>19524073
lol I remember someone making a 'Death in Venice' Penguin cover edit of that

>> No.19524134

>>19524109
>tadzio gets ripped and beats up Aschenbach
hmm

>> No.19524143

Why does /lit/ have so many posters that are gay or bi?

I’m bi too, so I’m not complaining, but it’s funny how accepted liking cute boys is here compared to other boards. Are literally types just more likely to be faggy?

>> No.19524163

>>19524143
>Are literary types just more likely to be faggy?
Maybe. Literature is concerned with introspection/the internal far more than other forms of 'media' consumed today, it's not surprising that it would attract outliers with reason to reflect.

>> No.19524245

>>19517741
I can't exactly describe why, but this image reminds me of William Guppy

>> No.19524491

>>19521676
>meme stats
do you also listen to covid stats, stats on white male crime, etc? or just stats that fit your worldview?

>> No.19524553

>>19520044
>>19521094
ok hun

>> No.19524695

>>19524073
The photographer of that one is Torbjørn Rødland

>> No.19524799

>>19524143
Boards like /int/ and /co/ can be very gay-friendly.

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>>19517741
The /lit/ gay superfecta:
>Confessions of a Mask (Mishima Yukio)
for the shy, introspective fag interested in the impermanence of beauty.
>The Sluts (Dennis Cooper)
for the hedonistic fag who is interested in the depraved side of homosexuality in the internet age
>Christopher and His Kind (Christopher Isherwood)
for the closeted fags seeking sexual emancipation
>Morrissey Autobiography (Moz)
for the sorrowful, racist fags

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>>19521267
That boy looks in his late teens/early twenties, you just haven't seen/fucked enough young attractive men, it's a youthful look but not childish.

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>>19524143
>Why does /lit/ have so many posters that are gay or bi?
Higher board IQ.

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>>19517741
>Jean Genet - The Thief's Journal
Thank me later.

>> No.19525708

>>19521676
>>19521718
>>19521868
Then why doesn't it happen to women? They have anal sex, don't they?
Oh, right, you made it up. You and your hand have fun tonight

>> No.19525900

>>19517741
Jean Genet

>> No.19525911

>>19525515
Yes, or Funeral Rites

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>>19517741

>> No.19526695
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19526695

What are some gay muslim authors besides Abu Nuwas? Where's that anon with his homo-islamic essay?

>> No.19526710

>>19517741
Gays are inherently an aberration of nature by way of low environmental pressures. And mostly a psychological condition.

Like being attracted to animals or latex.

>> No.19526727

>>19525708
They don’t have anal sex to the degree that faggots do. Exception being equally mentally ill porn stars and we know how life turns out for them.

>> No.19526734

>>19525507
No gay shut in trannys have more time to read. Most healthy minded people have things to do

>> No.19526741

>>19524491
cope, seethe and dilate. I’m sure you were molested by a family member

>> No.19526754

>>19525497
Unless a man has a bustling beard he is a boy. Also men aren't for fucking

>> No.19526756

>>19517741
Smoking is bad, if you smoke you're a FAGGOT.
How many of you smoke

>> No.19526769

>>19526756
>Smoking is... LE BAD!!!

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>>19524081
homosexuality was in no way mainstream in Ancient Greece. Most historical references are from Athens which is basically an ancient San Francisco. Historians have been misrepresenting the prevalence of faggots in Greece for years.

>> No.19526780

>>19526769
What? Are you going to argue letting other men know you're good at givving succ to the most foul chemical compound since mustard gas is good or something?

>> No.19526801

>>19523523
And what about the other stuff? 2.4 more is a average increase when we’re talking about populations. There’s a reason Islam throws you faggots off of buildings.

>> No.19526803

>>19526779
Of course, homosexuality was for the artists and philosophers, the elite of the time.
Heterosexuality was the norm for the average lower-class trash plebeian.
Same as it ever was

>> No.19526813

>>19523503
No that’s pretty much what any gay parade looks like

>> No.19526820

>>19526779
Lycurgus actually seems to have actively discouraged it in his laws, though he seems to have frowned more on pederasty than consensual relationships between soldiers, which were believed to make the army fight better. He seems to have been making an anti-pedophilia stance in general, sadly rare in the ancient world but practical since he wanted fewer girls dying in child birth

>> No.19526829

>>19526803
And which is truly representative of society and it’s values faggot? Your twitter celebs or the working American raising a family? You might as well say transgenderism is the norm in America because your kardashian celeb who’s shit you worship promotes it

>> No.19526836

>>19526820
We’ll homosexuality and pedophilia tend to go hand in hand. Homosexuals reproduce through molestation

>> No.19526838

>>19526820
Lycurgus? More like lick your puss. Because he's a chad and you're a filthy little no good faggot that i'm gonna insert my big nigga dick in and buss a hole in your throat frfr suck my dick and stock your tongue down my uraeeeethra big boi i'm finna show you how a lil fsggot cuck like you deserve to be treated frfr

>> No.19526849

>>19526836
Yeah, based Lycurgus hated nonces and sort of reluctantly allowed consensual sex between adults. Some legends even have him dissing the gods for gay sex

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>>19526695
Abu Tammam, Al-Jahiz (author of 'Concubines and Youths in Competition'), Sa'di, Amir Khusrau, Kirmani, Al-Tifashi, Ibn Hazm, Ibn Bassam, the list goes on. Attar of Nishapur writes frequently of the relationship between Mahmud and Ayaz.
>>19526779
>Most historical references are from Athens which is basically an ancient San Francisco. Historians have been misrepresenting the prevalence of faggots in Greece for years.
Pausanias in the Symposium describes Athens as sitting in the 'middle' of the range of attitudes toward pederasty extant in ancient Greece at the time, alongside Sparta. Multiple sources describe it being prevalent in Thebes, Boeotia, Elis, etc. Xenophon says "most cities" allow it. Doric colonies in Italy feature homoerotic art.
>>19526803
Any evidence for this claim? The philosophical milieu of Plato differentiated itself from Greek custom by removing sexual relations from pederasty.

>> No.19526965

>>19526836
Fuck you. I was made in Gods image. Now wash my fucking feet like Christ commanded you.

>> No.19526973

>>19526965
And you’ve rebelled against God and await an eternity in hell

>> No.19526981

>>19526940
Just because it appears in art and some
Literature doesn’t make it prevalent. Most normal people were against any form of
Homosexual behavior

>> No.19527001

>>19526981
>Just because it appears in art and some Literature doesn’t make it prevalent. Most normal people were against any form of Homosexual behavior
Except we're not just talking about art and literature but also historical texts and jurisprudence, like the legal orations of Aeschines and the beliefs Greeks held about their city founders. It's well known, for instance, that the lovers Harmodius and Aristogeiton were a popular object of veneration, with statues of the tyrant-killers erected in many democratic parts of Greece (they're referenced in sources as diverse as Thucydides, Plato, Aristophanes, etc.). Pederasty seems to have been associated, at least in the minds of the Athenians, with a democratic ethos.

>> No.19527015

>>19526741
>>19526836
>>19526973
If you believe that homosexuality is the result of being molested (ie, that it is a result of being victimised by an adult, an event the child cannot possibly be culpable for) then why do you hate homosexuals instead of pitying them? Why do you try to invoke the trauma of the molestation to mock them? It gives me the feeling you don't actually believe what you say

>> No.19527093

>>19526973
We’ll 1 do have 1 regret…..the first guy I was with - if I had a time machine I’d go back and do a better job. I really felt like I sucked at it.

>> No.19527397

>>19527001
Again Athens was mainly a ancient San Francisco. You can’t equate their degenerate behavior with all of Greece.


From a biological perspective, it's suicide for a species. A species that relies on heterosexual reproduction would go extinct within a generation if it became exclusively homosexual overnight. Therefore, the behavior should not be encouraged. Frankly, it shouldn't be tolerated either.

>> No.19527404

>>19527015
Because it’s homosexuals doing the molestation.

>> No.19527413

>>19527093
Just think about the AIDS you got from the experience.

>> No.19527478

>>19527397
>Again Athens was mainly a ancient San Francisco.
No it wasn’t. Just because a city tolerates homosexuality doesn’t mean it has a libertine sexual ethic. The Athenians were relatively sexually conservative. Unlike casual gay sex of the kind seen in San Francisco, Athenian pederasty had a specific social role associated with education and the military. The social conventions and morals surrounding pederastic courtship in Athens were not dissimilar to the ones that regulated relations between bachelors and maidens in Victorian Britain.
>You can’t equate their degenerate behavior with all of Greece.
But, as I’ve already pointed out, other Greek cities practised homosexuality, several of them more liberally than Athens. A common belief among ancient Greeks was that the Doric race (the Cretans and Spartans) had introduced homosexuality to the Greek peninsula. We have evidence in the form of poetry and artwork from other cities, as well as ancient works of history and travel documents, that pederasty was not limited to Athens.
>From a biological perspective, it's suicide for a species. A species that relies on heterosexual reproduction would go extinct within a generation if it became exclusively homosexual overnight.
Luckily there is no chance of that happening. You don’t really think there is a danger that the whole human race will become homosexual, do you? Furthermore, this argument doesn’t even apply to Ancient Greece, where there was not a strict bifurcation between hetero- and homosexual individuals, and where exclusive pederasts constituted only a small minority of the population—and Aristophanes said that even these people were pressured to marry via convention. An Ancient Greek man was expected to bear offspring and continue his family name: his inclination for male beauty and male lovers was not interpreted as a threat to this.

>> No.19527537

>>19527404
Do you enjoy basing your worldview and attitude toward other people on shoddy stats in jpegs

>> No.19527548

>>19527413
I’m clean but I’d rather have aids then die a fucking incel. I’ve had sex with women and I hope you homophobes reflect on the fact that I’ve fucked a girl and some of you never will.

>> No.19527562

>>19527478
Do you mean besides the litmus test for all moral actions?

If everyone did it would it make humanity better or worse?

If everyone was gay humanity would end. It literally fails upon initial inspection due to this fact.

If you want more than that I would suggest looking into associated mental illness rates, child abuse rates, health impacts, and child raising outcomes for homosexuals compared to heteros.

Homosexuality correlates highly with other mental illnesses.

Despite making up a small percentage of the population homosexuals account for nearly 40% of child abuse cases in the USA.

Homosexual lifestyles are profoundly unhealthy. Many studies citing decreases in average lifespan by 20-30 years.

And lastly children raised by homosexuals experience vastly inferior life outcomes in terms of physical and mental health and economic outcome.

>>19527537
Plenty of studies proving said stats m8

>> No.19527567

>>19527548
trannys aren’t women, abomination

>> No.19527633

>>19527562
You’re presupposing that the Kantian categorical imperative is a good meta-ethical rule, which I don’t think it is. By your metric religious celibacy is immoral since if everyone were celibate it would result in human extinction.
>If you want more than that I would suggest looking into associated mental illness rates, child abuse rates, health impacts, and child raising outcomes for homosexuals compared to heteros.
>And lastly children raised by homosexuals experience vastly inferior life outcomes in terms of physical and mental health and economic outcome.
Children raised by same-sex parents outperform others in school — https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/children-with-same-sex-parents-outperform-others-in-school.amp
Children raised by same-sex parents from birth outperform children raised by different-sex parents on standardized test scores at the end of primary education by about .14 standard deviations — https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0003122420957249
The research indicates that parenting practices and children’s outcomes in families parented by lesbian and gay parents are likely to be at least as favourable as those in families of heterosexual parents — https://psychology.org.au/getmedia/47196902-158d-4cbb-86e6-2f3f1c71ffd1/lgbt-families-literature-review.pdf.pdf
Taken together, this research forms an overwhelming scholarly consensus, based on over three decades of peer-reviewed research, that having a gay or lesbian parent does not harm children — https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/PDF-Parenting-wellbeing-1.pdf
[The] studies reveal that children raised in same-sex parent families fare just as well as children raised in different-sex parent families across a wide spectrum of child well-being measures: academic performance, cognitive development, social development, psychological health, early sexual activity, and substance abuse — Manning, Wendy D., Marshal Neal Fettro, and Esther Lamidi. "Child well-being in same-sex parent families"
"If gay, lesbian, or bisexual parents were inherently less capable than otherwise comparable heterosexual parents, their children would evidence problems regardless of the type of sample. This pattern clearly has not been observed. Given the consistent failures in this research literature to disprove the null hypothesis, the burden of empirical proof is on those who argue that the children of sexual minority parents fare worse than the children of heterosexual parents." — https://web.archive.org/web/20200218114648/https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8872/3b7680ce586e75a5a771316d890e663c1b4b.pdf

>> No.19528497

>>19521826
you are a self-hating abomination

>> No.19528511

>>19526734
coping iqlet

>> No.19528600

> William S Burroughs
> Bret Easton Ellis
> Dennis Cooper

>> No.19528821

>>19527633
Celibacy is not an action it’s refraining from an action. And within the bounds of marriage it is immoral.
- Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3462414/
- 10 to 15 percent of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813477
- 1.65% of the US population, account for 83% of the country’s syphilis cases. https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/STD.htm
-Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
- 67.5% of 200 homosexual men but only 16% of 100 heterosexual men were found to be infected with intestinal parasites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1704818/
-The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36%.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6512871/
- Gays are more likely than straight people to have mental illness.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2072932

http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/health-risks-of-the-homosexual-lifestyle/

>> No.19528825

>>19528497
nice projection you aids infested freak. Kill yourself soon

>> No.19528829

>>19528511
seethe

>> No.19528851

>>19521997
Based. And even when I do get horny, I don't like anal sex.

>> No.19528890

>>19528821
>Celibacy is not an action it’s refraining from an action.
Except celibacy generally involves vows to refrain from romantic or sexual activity, and requires some degree of sustained effort.
>doesn't address the fact statistics show homosexuals are good parents

>> No.19528963

I want a cute BF so much ;_;

>> No.19528979

>>19528963
I'm accepting applications.

>> No.19529013

>>19517741
>Homosexual literature
So basically all modern media?

>> No.19529028

>>19521826
>society WILL eventually try to fuck everything that exists including dead people, children, and animals.
ok and? what's the problem here?

>> No.19529833

>>19528979
Pls marry me anon, I'm so lonely ;_;

>> No.19529869

>>19529833
Iktf. What do you look for in a dude?

>> No.19529978

>>19529869
Arms capable of hugging ;_;

>> No.19530018

>>19529978
I'm a hopeless romantic too, but you've got to give me something more than that. Have some standards, anon.

>> No.19530071

>>19530018
>standards
Ground down through years of heart-aching loneliness I’m afraid ;_;

>> No.19530162

>>19530071
We're all lonely here anon, but what do you think made you that way? Do you actually try and date or is there something holding you back?

>> No.19530222

>>19530162
It’s impossible to be absolutely happy with any relationship, ageing alone will destroy any true pleasure; and emotional or intellectual intimacy? A forlorn hope to anyone who’s actually attempted it. We are all alone, anon, as we all shall ever be. I’m just publicly lamenting it so as to share, reduce, my burden.

And maybe guilt-trip God into magicking me up a cute BF during the oh so lonely night.

>> No.19530261

>>19521802
what i’m reading here is that bisexuality is top tier

>> No.19530353

>>19521826
How about this: sex is for making babies so you should not live a lifestyle that is focused on sex that doesnt make babies, but sex is also a lot of fun so you can enjoy non-baby-making sex as well as long as it is not destructive to your ability to make babies

fucking fake dichotomy faggot

>> No.19530734

>>19527562
If everyone was an artist society would collapse. Artists deserve to die (though this is true).

>> No.19530803

>>19521997
Respect. That's something to cherish.

>> No.19530804

>>19522045
Niggas will be right

>> No.19530824

>>19523458
Gay "pride" parades really just seem like circuses. Not all faggots are faggots, bro

>> No.19530836

>>19517741
Wilde and Proust are the only good gay authors worth reading desu.

>> No.19530986

>>19523267
At first I really didn’t care, but the way you fuckwads have been acting lately is just unbearable, it went from “just let us be!” To “everyone is gay, you are abusing your child for calling him a boy, he has to decide that himself”

>> No.19531210

>>19530986
>conflating homosexuality with trannies
Fucking retard. Homosexuality has a long and storied history spanning from Homer to Shakespeare; trannies have spread as a memetic virus through vulnerable and autistic subgroups within less than a decade.

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19531464

Nice thread. Read some Whitman too

>> No.19531516

>>19517741
I really am not a fan of jewish people.

>> No.19531602

>>19531464
I want to kiss him.

>> No.19531777

>>19530836
I started reading part 4 just the other week and he really drops you off in the deep end with the meeting of Jupien and Charlus and his taxonomy of homosexuals.

>> No.19532215

>>19528825
seething abomination kek

>> No.19532226

>>19517741
Fags should be systematically killed off.

>> No.19532265

>>19528890
>vows
So? It’s still refraining from an action. Vows can be for a lot of things.
>statistics
Show that the nuclear family is the best thing for kids. Any thing else is a perversion and thus worse. Due to the propensity of gays to molest children they shouldn’t be allowed to adopt whatsoever.

>> No.19532280

>>19530353
sex outside of the bands of marriage is destructive to the individual and society as a whole, degenerate.

>> No.19532296

>>19532280
sex far outdates the institution of marriage
>b-but muh bronze age book tell me
don't care retard

>> No.19532303

>>19532296
And how was humanity then you disease infested queer? People were fucking their own parents back then. But that probably turns you on you sick fuck

>> No.19532581

>>19532303
> People were fucking their own parents back then.
Erm, what?

>> No.19533258

>>19517741
What's the best book for "seeing through the eyes" of a homosexual man or woman?

>> No.19533265

>>19519331
Throughout my life I've noticed homosexuals frequently cross that line seemingly not caring the way heterosexuals do about the age of consent

>> No.19533272

>>19522011
Why do you think homosexuality id a choice?

>> No.19533282

>>19523314
Kek get back in

>> No.19533294

>>19525497
>>19525507
Why are some f*gs super effiminatw or are into hyper masculine manly men why not just normal people? Like Anderson Cooper or something

>> No.19533349

Lawrence thread was deleted...

>> No.19533361
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19533361

>>19531464
Is he cute without the mask?

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19533373

>>19533258
Anyone?

>> No.19533396

>>19533373
Memoirs of Hadrian is the only novel I can think about

>> No.19533403

>>19533361
Yes. And he's cute without the shorts also

>> No.19533410

>>19533403
Sauce

>> No.19533437

>>19533410
I'm just guessing

>> No.19533455

>>19533282
I'm prison gay so it's ok

>> No.19533697

>>19533258
>>19533373
Confessions of a Mask - Mishima

>> No.19533698

Is fascism inherently gay?

>> No.19533715

>>19533698
Yes
>During the transition from the German Empire to the Weimar liberal democracy, Blüher, a radical conservative and monarchist, became a staunch opponent of the Weimar Republic. In 1928, he had the opportunity to meet the former Kaiser Wilhelm II, in exile in the Netherlands. Blüher believed that pederasty and male bonding provided a basis for a stronger nation and state, which became a popular concept within certain segments of the Hitler Youth.[1] Blüher later supported the Nazis but turned on them in 1934, when SA leader Ernst Röhm was murdered on Hitler's orders during the Night of the Long Knives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Bl%C3%BCher

>> No.19533721

>>19532265
>Show that the nuclear family is the best thing for kids. Any thing else is a perversion and thus worse.
The statistics show that gay and straight nuclear families perform equally as well...
>Due to the propensity of gays to molest children they shouldn’t be allowed to adopt whatsoever.
There is no indication that children raised in same-sex families are sexually abused at higher rates than those raised in opposite-sex ones

>> No.19533731

>>19523364
>salafist posting zionist propaganda
like pottery

>> No.19533733

>>19533361
wow pretty boy

>> No.19533754

>>19533373
monique wittig

>> No.19533755
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19533755

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19533817

I CAAANT DO I T ANYMOE I CANTT DONT U UNDERSTAND ;33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB8EAWKXHsw

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>>19532265
stats also show men are far more violent than women. should a matriarchy be put in place?
go beyond stats and come up with an actual argument that argues for some sort of causality.
>hedonism
i.e. a behavior that goes beyond sexual orientation. if you want to moralfag, go moralfag against universalized concepts like unhealthy sexual desire you culture obsessed ape. you could actually make a decent point about people who spend too much of their time on fleeting and possibly dangerous sex acts instead of a healthier hobby.
quoting stats is for journalists without any background in any scientific field.

>> No.19533947

>>19532265
>nuclear family
An invention of ad-men to create the perfect consumer unit.

>> No.19534852

>>19533396
>Jews control academia
>One of their most vicious rivals is depicted as gay
Simple as

>> No.19534859

>>19533754
What specific book?

>> No.19534865

>ctrl+f "OP's diary"
>0 results
I am disappointed

>> No.19534877

>>19534852
Did the Jews fabricate all the descriptions of Hadrian's sexuality in ancient Roman literature and all the statues of Antinous?

>> No.19534887

This many seething homophobes on a degenerate website, for degenerates? Is it an election year in Russia or something? Monsieurs. I regret to inform you that posting on this website at all makes you a fucking faggot

>> No.19534890

>>19534877
>descriptions of Hadrian's sexuality in ancient Roman literature
Let's see it then

>> No.19534894

>>19534887
>Seething
>Homophobic
Lol butt pirate

>> No.19534901

>>19534894
>implying
Please. This is a masc4masc board. It's all hand jobs, intercrural, and oral sex. Preferably right after victory in battle

>> No.19534906

>>19534901
?

>> No.19534913

>>19534877
I could conceptualize it but i find it extremely fishy given the circumstances this gay talk of greek and romans i cannot see them being gay back then why only among upper classes why fishy situations like hadrian? Doesn't add up b

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19534959

>>19534890
>Antinous was from Bithynium, a city of Bithynia, which we also call Claudiopolis; he had been a favourite of the emperor and had died in Egypt, either by falling into the Nile, as Hadrian writes, or, as the truth is, by being offered in sacrifice. For Hadrian, as I have stated, was always very curious and employed divinations and incantations of all kinds. Accordingly, he honoured Antinous, either because of his love [eros] for him or because the youth had voluntarily undertaken to die (it being necessary that a life should be surrendered freely for the accomplishment of the ends Hadrian had in view), by building a city on the spot where he had suffered this fate and naming it after him; and he also set up statues, or rather sacred images, of him, practically all over the world.
—Cassius Dio 69.11.2-4
>During a journey on the Nile he lost Antinous, his favourite, and for this youth he wept like a woman. Concerning this incident there are varying rumours; for some claim that he had devoted himself to death for Hadrian, and others — what both his beauty and Hadrian's sensuality suggest. But however this may be, the Greeks deified him at Hadrian's request, and declared that oracles were given through his agency, but these, it is commonly asserted, were composed by Hadrian himself.
—Historia Augusta, Life of Hadrian, 14.5-7
>But as he next introduces the case of the favourite of Adrian (I refer to the accounts regarding the youth Antinous, and the honours paid him by the inhabitants of the city of Antinous in Egypt)... For what is there in common between a life lived among the favourites of Adrian, by one who did not abstain even from unnatural lusts, and that of the venerable Jesus
—Origen, Contra Celsum 35
>Antinous too was deified by them; his temple is the newest in Mantineia. He was a great favorite of the Emperor Hadrian. I never saw him in the flesh, but I have seen images and pictures of him.
—Pausanias, Description of Greece 8.9.7
>And it is not out of place, we think, to mention here Antinous, who was alive but lately, and whom all were prompt, through fear, to worship as a god, though they knew both who he was and what was his origin.
—Justin Martyr, First Apology 29
>in our own time Antinous, favourite of Hadrian, Emperor of the Romans, whom, although men know he was a mere man, and not a respectable man, but on the contrary, full of licentiousness, yet they worship for fear of him that enjoined it.
—Athanasius, Contra Gentes 1.9
>For what is there in common between a life lived among the favourites of Adrian, by one who did not abstain even from unnatural lusts, and that of the venerable Jesus
—Origen, Contra Celsum 3
>>19534913
What?

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>>19534890
>>19534959
Accidentally quoted Origen twice, oops. I'll quote more of Athanasius:
>For Hadrian having come to sojourn in the land of Egypt, when Antinous the minister of his pleasure died, ordered him to be worshipped; being indeed himself in love with the youth even after his death, but for all that offering a convincing exposure of himself, and a proof against all idolatry, that it was discovered among men for no other reason than by reason of the lust of them that imagined it. According as the wisdom of God testifies beforehand when it says, “The devising of idols was the beginning of fornication.
—Athanasius, Contra Gentes 1.9

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>>19534906
he is correct, anal is only for slaves and defeated adversaries both of which we rarely encounter in 21st century.

>> No.19535105

>>19520402
underrated

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>>19534959
Memoirs of Hadrian is a heartbreaking book.

>> No.19535193

>>19523259
non-faggot here
I'll support faggots anytime just to see you die seething kek

>> No.19535211

>>19526973
>get molested
>sent to hell
nice religion you got there

>> No.19535237

>>19521853
>Human brainlet pretends he can even begin to appreciate the number and complexity of factors and interactions that constitute evolution's lens
If homosexual activity had no benefits then it would be virtually nonexistent, rather than fairly common, across the animal kingdom. Just because you can't figure out what those benefits are doesn't mean they don't exist. Evolution tends to rapidly purge traits that are universally harmful whenever it has an alternative, and in this case it does have an easy alternative: making everyone straight.

>> No.19535284

>>19519436
Well, there's the activism aspect. However that relates to repudoctive rights
And maybe I can point to some examples of gay culture in cinema or books. However most of them wether it be the rocky horror or call me by your name are chalk full of sex scenes and innuendo.

So what exactly do you mean by "have to do with sex".

>> No.19535861

>>19534901
Thigh sex is a beautiful thing

>> No.19536149

>>19521853
>assumes that all there is to life is reproduction
how many children do you currently have anon? why aren't you making more children right now?

>> No.19536237

>>19535861
What does it feel like though?

>> No.19536823

>>19536149
Let’s make some kids right now uWu

>> No.19536837

>>19534859
The Lesbian Body (sarcastic title). i have to read her other novels they seem cool too

>> No.19536846

>>19521193
The silent majority of faggot haters such as myself don't feel the need to post

>> No.19536864

>>19517741
starting to see why Hitler burnt books.

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>>19533361

>> No.19536980

>>19536968
>boys dressing up as girls
Stupid trend, it conceals the actual appeal of young men.

>> No.19536983

>>19536864
that's an anti-smoking ad you stink

>> No.19537017

>>19522034
>penis = arousal

>> No.19537051

>>19522794
You can be bi and avoid people who are promiscuous, plus I think these are fake stats, as anecdotally, it's not quite the same, at least among the friends that I have who are gay.

>> No.19537065

>>19536980
>Trend
Crossdressing has been a thing for as long as human society existed

>> No.19537080

>>19537065
Not the anime-induced plague of femboys (that equally often aren't actually *just* feminine boys, but transexuals).

>> No.19537108

>>19537080
This. Trannies make something potentially beautiful (although I've personally noticed a lot of them were pretty physically and mentally unappealing before transition) totally unsalvageable.

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>>19537080
There are still boys that just crossdress or act feminine solely for the sex appeal/for the fun of it and I've fucked many. Trannies aren't going to destroy this and turn everyone into trannies

>> No.19537246

>>19517741
>>19525497
>>19525113
>>19531464
>>19533361
>>19536968

I'm attracted to women too but there's something about men like this that just turns me to jelly. Women can be beautiful but nothing compares to the idea of embracing a body or kissing a face like this It seems like in those arms I could find all of the safety, happiness, and companionship I've missed my entire life whereas a woman would only provide that temporarily and could never be so companionable.

>> No.19537513

>>19524245
Hello Quentin.

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>>19530222
I used to feel the same way when I was 15 and read pic related. But that was a different time and I was a self loathing hung up for my parents.

Even though I cannot tell you that I’ve experienced love from another man, I can tell you that agonising over what will be, will be—and your high dreams will never come to fruition and simply remain escapism for you.

What you should really be doing is experiencing life and acknowledging its imperfect forms. Camus says something like this about the absurdity of love, that its form is always imperfect yet that is what makes it perfect. The least you could do is lament to a friend (or make a friend) in person so you realise how absolutely foolish the things you say are—this is how I would always feel when I got in my dark moods and tried to express them, then realised they were merely spiralling neurosis. Get off the internet, go look at some trees or water.