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Ok now that the smoke has cleared, who was in the wrong?

>> No.19513527

Yes, young hegelian anime.

>> No.19513554

>>19513513
I physically cringed at that cover

>> No.19513897

>>19513513
Both of them for being leftoids.

>> No.19513906

>>19513513
Both

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>>19513513
What does Dematteis say?

>> No.19514672

>>19514656
stirner's critics doesn't mention marx, since the german ideology wasn't published until nearly a century later

>> No.19514693

>>19514672
Yet it addresses everything Marx bitches about, I’m told. It’s where the local meme of “X retroactively refuted Y” comes from.

>> No.19514728

>>19513513
Followers of Stirner get exactly what Stirner promised them. Followers of Marx get failed regimes and mass death.

>> No.19514753

>>19514693
you're told?

>> No.19514781

>>19514753
I have not read Marx’s The German Ideology, nor do I plan to.

>> No.19514790

>>19514781
lol

>> No.19514879

>>19513513
>Marx
He a was a big fat stinky bearded jew fuck.

Stiner was a chad and the closest thing to a troll in the 19th century

>> No.19514907

Marx
>Here's how we fix X, it relies on everyone massively giving a shit
Stirner
>Here's why I don't give a shit about X

This whole VS idea based on Marx seething for 100000000 pages over the indifference of others to the struggle of the proletariat or whatever is fucking gay and stupid

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>>19513513
Both.

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>>19514907
Boiled down. The state and its profiteering racket is lost when we abandon their models.

Marx wants a slow process to play out just so. And so numerous betrayers believe themselves our betters by delaying the Revolution

>> No.19514999

>>19513513
both made up irrelevant philosophical guff
will hopefully be forgotten entirely in 50 years

>> No.19515057

>>19513513
isn't Stirnerism a tautology philosophy? everyone is acting in self interest all the time (knowingly or not) so why bother writing that out?

>> No.19515101

>>19515057
See >>19514936
clearly not everyone

>> No.19515137

>>19513513
can i get a qrd on stirner? ive seens the memes but know nothing of the man or his philosophy

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>>19513897
>l-leftims!

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>>19515137
The short of it >>19514936

>> No.19515200

>>19515167
Kek
He really was a retard

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>>19514879
>Stiner was a chad
His anarcho-milk shop failed, he blew his wife's inheritance, she left him for Australia, and he died from a bug bite without a single descendant. Stirner is a post-chad.

Meanwhile, Marx was living the comfy stateless NEET life in exile thanks to his sugar daddy's kapital and even got to impregnate his own maid. You know who else impregnated his own maid? Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is also a chad. I rest my case.

>> No.19515399

>>19515281
Stirner's life is a work of art
who would guess all that shit?

>> No.19515446

>>19515101
not revolting against the state is for their self interest since they want stability and security from it

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>>19515446
>they want stability and security
Which is why they would overthrow the state. This isn’t stability, security, it’s horrible and life threatening. You know covid is on purpose, right?

>> No.19515502

>>19515473
if they eliminate the state another mafia will fill the power void, not to mention all the bloodshed

>> No.19515515

>>19515399
>dude everything is just an abstraction, many of which hurt your interests
>bro look out for yourself first
I'm a Stirnerfag more than a Marxfag, but come on. Stirner is interesting because he is so simple. There's nothing deep to him, he's raw.

>> No.19515531

>>19513513
Well, Marx influenced the whole of human history subsequent to his writing whereas Stirner's legacy seems to be to have influenced a bunch of weird internet autists.

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>>19515502
Done well the people retain the control. It’s essentially taking control of your life with your immediate neighbors help.
The bloodshed will come where it’s coming from now. Statist guards.

https://youtu.be/DZ6e8-94JRE