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How accurate is this?

>> No.19512242

The line about Dostoevsky is spot-on.

>> No.19512252

>>19512242
Maybe, but it shows that his knowledge of 19th century Russian literature is limited to Dostoevsky.

>> No.19512253

>>19512232
It's a shitpost written by a /lit/ poster... so very.

>> No.19512255

>>19512232
Extremely based post.

>> No.19512261

>>19512232
How she is ok with Foucault and not Dostoyevsky is amazing.

>> No.19512267

>>19512232
The first paragraph is spot on, rest is just dribble

>> No.19512272

>>19512261
Read it again, she says to avoid anyone into Foucault.

>> No.19512273

>>19512253
Obviously

>> No.19512278

Obviously not 100% true but generally I would agree. The Franzen, Palahniuk, Pynchon, Chabon thing confuses me but I've only read Mason & Dixon so I might be missing something

>> No.19512281

women dont read

>> No.19512287

>>19512232
how come she didn't mention nabokov?

>> No.19512296

>>19512281
Stupid post penalty
*walks football back*

>> No.19512298

I can def say no woman in this world will get turned on by a Will Durant reader.
These stupid things dont know what they want.

>> No.19512308

>>19512261
She simply sourced her famous names index from some forum or narrow social circle, where people are being silly elitist parodies of themselves and she didn't actually filter those through her own convictions or tastes when taking it into the real world. These are just power words of status to her. That post is American Psycho table talk dialogue lines but retooled for literary snobbery. Something something do you even realize how many people are suffering in this obscure place?

>> No.19512314

my favourite book is the unconsoled by ishiguro

>> No.19512317

>>19512232
Why do you care about what femcel slags think? You wouldn't want to fuck them anyway

>> No.19512318

>>19512232
What if they say Call of the crocodile?

>> No.19512322
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>>19512232
If youre a woman and you need a strategy to date, youre either fucking hideous or absolutely unbearable to be around. In either case, die

>> No.19512336

>>19512232
>Kant and Hegel is generally okay
Most offensive shit she said.

>> No.19512350

>>19512336
coping angloid

>> No.19512406

>>19512252
>his
>>19512242
it's only sort-of right, because it's presented as something wholly negative. If Karamazov is someone's favorite book, it would potentially suggest to me an above-average knowledge of, interest in, and ruthlessness about, the truth of the human psychological condition. Note the difference in framing and how that shapes the reader's interpretation.
Ultimately, this chick thinks she's highly intelligent but doesn't see the boundaries of her own personal and provincial limitations. It's common and fashionable for women to like Dickens, and she unthinkingly projects that onto a man as a desirable characteristic; but any man of literary sense would tell you that Dickens was paid by the word and all of his work would be vastly improved by considerable editing.
Projection without self-awareness is a hallmark of female thinking and behavior.
Realistically, much more valuable and informative would be how well someone can demonstrate comprehension of a work they claim to be their favorite, regardless of what it is (unless it's trash that can be dismissed out of hand).

>> No.19512433

>>19512406
>>his

Yes. Obviously written by a man pretending to be a woman.

>> No.19512443

>>19512232
>unless you're into Harry Potter yourself, then I'm sorry
>if his favorite book is Sun and Steel, RUN away and never look back

you really thought you could fool me with this one huh /lit/?
Anyway it's funny to me that people might actually take this advice seriously

>> No.19512453

>>19512232
If you are attractive, sociable and charismatic, you can give any answer and the girl will find it acceptable

>> No.19512466

>>19512322
dubs of truth. Femcels are a product of women working and getting uni degrees, and refusing to lower standards. Women wants to marry/love to the side and up. Now that advancement and society is running alot faster than evolution, there will be plenty of females who think they deserve better and refuse to believe there is something wrong with that mindset.

I think also they are less selfaware and dont think about how they actually act. It is never their fault, always someone else.

>>19512406
I think you are on to something. There is also the case that she might think she is special if she has these "quirks".

>> No.19512470

I'm gonna start telling people my favorite book is Sun and Steel, to filter people.

Pretty sure no one outside this board actually knows what that book is. At least not in modern America.

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19512482

>why am I 30+ with no kids and no partner? where are all the good men?

>> No.19512504

>>19512272

I mean, he was a homosexual who died of AIDS so it's reasonable advice for a straight woman who shouldn't have to fear HIV at all since she shouldn't have to fuck around with any of that. Yes, the implication is that a man who actually reads Foucault is an order of magnitude more likely to be homosexual or closeted, thereby hazarding spreading disease to her. The implication is sound.

>> No.19512509

>>19512308
Yep. Amazing how lit fall for this type of bait.

Nowadays, just stick to 2-3 books that you really like. No one is able to absorb or live by the ideas so many authors at the same time.
This bitch is lying and probably doesnt know shit with shit.

It is an old act to cite random authors and to appear as if you are an intellectual.

>> No.19512514

>>19512232
woah hold on nigger, what do you think this is, some sort of board about literature? I'm not reading that wall of text.

>> No.19512535

>>19512232
I feel...I feel all of that was written by a man. Don't ask me how but I'm 98% sure a woman didn't wrote that.

>> No.19512902

>>19512232
Will Durant was a retard who is only liked by pseuds rip bozo

>> No.19512923

>>19512902
My proof? The existence of Whatifalthis

>> No.19512989

My favorite book is The divine comedy. Am I a win or nah?

>> No.19513003

>>19512232
>ayn rand
no lol
>toni morrison
no idea who that is
>classic sci-fi or fantasy
in the past, not too enthusiastic
>pynchon, vonnegut
not my favorites, dislike palahniuk
>Dickens
like him but not a favorite
>female authors
I have read Frankenstein
>harry potter
didn't read
>russian literature
like it but I wouldn't say it's my favorite
>fitness
not at all
>sun and steel
no
>art book
I like the old masters but I'm not too much into classicism
>ww2 history
not interested, not a war nut
>romans
interesting period but roman worship is kind of sophomoric
>nietzsche
no
>kant is ok
glad to know
my favorite book is a memoir that maybe 10 people have read
I generally try to figure out if she slept around and if that's a positive I ghost

>> No.19513009

>>19513003
>toni morrison
>no idea who that is
You have to be 18+ to post on 4chan

>> No.19513015

>>19513009
is that american? I'm not american

>> No.19513246

>>19512232
>avoid anyone into Aristotle

After all, he only identified the basis of logic and wrote it down, it's only one of the most important intellectual feat of human history

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>>19512232
Uhhh guys?

>1. never listen to women, do not even read the OP text
>2. entertain women and be yourself
>3. the only words out of a woman's mouth you should listen to are "yes" or "no" when you kiss her and start to undress her

Like seriously, getting laid is the easiest when you clearly do not give a shit whether or not a woman approves of you. In fact, your tactic dismissal of her opinions and water-off-a-ducks-back attitude will only help you get laid more as 99% of guys immediately submit to them and kiss women's asses.

Be the guy that does not kiss their ass and you will be the guy with them on your dick.

>> No.19513285

How exactly has it proven accurate if she just avoids all these guys and doesnt ever actually get to know them

>> No.19513292

>>19513271
is that the shitkickers guy? redemption arc if this dude turns out to be the father figure /lit/ needs

>> No.19513303

>>19513292
stop samefagging you fucking sad fuck

>> No.19513309

>>19512232
That was written by a man.

>> No.19513319

>>19513271
Lame.

>> No.19513330
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>>19513285
"getting to know" does not even matter when it comes to attraction. In fact, I'd say the only thing that matters is a man's direction and inertia in life.

The more momentum you have at any given time, momentum being your inner power and what you exude to the outside world, the more you will attract women.

As soon as you "slow down" to try and date and court a woman, you lose energy, and that energy loss repulses women. Do your own thing and always stay moving forward in life and women will naturally try and hitch onto you, because they see a man who is motivated, in-motion, and powerful.

If you lose your momentum and get stuck in a rut, you will never attract the women you want, and instead you will get stuck with the women who are also momentumless and dead weight.

Keep in mind that dating has become extremely unnatural since the invention of online dating and smart phones, also, society has made it purposefully much, much more difficult to flirt in-person with women. Add in the masks and vaccine passports and you have a perfect storm of loneliness and broken social skills coming up.

>> No.19513337

>>19513303
I don't samefag. Also, my words are true.

>> No.19513350

>>19512242
It's really not though
Brothers Karamazov especially is a very optimistic book. Only people who haven't read/understood Dosto assume he is an existential doomer

>> No.19513430

>>19513330
>If you lose your momentum and get stuck in a rut, you will never attract the women you want, and instead you will get stuck with the women who are also momentumless and dead weight.
this rings absolutely true from my experience

>> No.19513775

>>19513430
Attracting women is alllllll about momentum.

>> No.19513781

>>19513350
>Brothers Karamazov especially is a very optimistic book.
for a Russian maybe.

>> No.19513833

>>19513781
>in sorrow, seek happiness
>Love all God’s creation, both the whole and every grain of sand. Love every leaf, every ray of light. Love the animals, love the plants, love each separate thing. If thou love each thing thou wilt perceive the mystery of God in all; and when once thou perceive this, thou wilt thenceforward grow every day to a fuller understanding of it: until thou come at last to love the whole world with a love that will then be all-embracing and universal
>Life is paradise, and we are all in paradise, but we refuse to see it

There are sad bits in the book, sure, but they all come around to a very optimistic theme overall. I don't see how anyone can read the book and see it as overall depressing.

>> No.19513936

>>19512232
what would she think about me, a kafka fan?

>> No.19514034

>>19512232
This has to be the most pedantic post that a 22 year old female English major ever wrote. She just references all of the literature she in particular has read over her entire life. She also doesn't seem to like anything herself, implying she is overcritical and probably not fun to be around, let alone date.

>> No.19514056

>>19512232
I would bet $1000 in $100 bills she has never read Dostoevsky, Franzen, Pynchon, or any of the philosophers she named.

>> No.19514064

>>19514034
Yes, this is why you throw parties, do shots with the bros, dance with women, and have carefree fun.

The women that have all these bullshit requirements, they're the first ones to see you dancing and having fun and it makes their panties wet.

If you try and engage them mentally, you end up on their lower level and then they just throw shit tests at you until they feel in control. Don't give them any control over you. Just have fun, smile, and be aloof. They'll talk to the boring guys but dance with and bang you, and afterwards they will tweet / blog / rant about guys who are jerks while the boring guys console them until the next gregarious fella shows up.

>> No.19514092

>>19513936
Kafka is accepted in most circles, like Vonnegut. Most important is it's a well-known name (women instinctively hate anything that isn't pre-approved by society; obscure is worse than distasteful).

>> No.19514141

>>19512296
Women don't read.

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>>19513009
cringe
>>19513015
then she’s already yours regardless of what you read
just answer with some national author and she’ll be ready to cuckold her toni morrison reading bf

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>>19512232
Kantchads stay winning.
>ain’t got time for thots and cuties
>too busy with my taxonomy of duties

>> No.19514253

luckily im a beckett chad

>> No.19514263

As a Nietzsche and Foucault enjoyer I am glad I passed the woman test.

I don't know what I would tell a girl if she asked what my favorite book was though. I'm not sure I have one.

>> No.19514269

>>19513246
>women
>caring about logic

Cmon bro

>> No.19514326

>>19512232
>Evola not listed
Looks like I'm okay then.

>> No.19514344

>>19512406
>but any man of literary sense would tell you that Dickens was paid by the word and all of his work would be vastly improved by considerable editing.
Is it just me, or do Dicken's novels not go anywhere? Even the wikipedia summarizes are a slog.

>> No.19514356

>>19513430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-F88c6Hrk

>> No.19514363

>>19512232
This is pretty spot on desu. Remember its about fvourite books before you anons start seething.

>> No.19514388

>>19514344
I think that that is part of the charm. You really feel like you’re inside a Dickens novel for better or worse

>> No.19514601

do you guys somehow believe a woman wrote this ? i mean cmon the last line gave him out

>> No.19514613

>>19512232
(you)

>> No.19514801

>>19512287
sigh. female post incoming. but the answer is because it varies a lot. clearly the obvious assumption to make is that the man pretentious or a pedophile, or even worse, both. but if it's not either of these two things, it might just mean that he's based. a lot of women who study literature will discuss lolita/pale fire/pnin/etc amongst ourselves and I've met many wiminz who consider him one of their favorite authors, but even they don't necessarily say that upfront when initially getting to know someone (due to having even the most minimal of social skills + understanding).

>> No.19514820

>>19512406
>wahh wahh i got filtered by dickens cause i'm too much of a nihilist shitbaby

>> No.19514823

The men over here gossiping about the women, the women over there gossiping about the men.

Just fuck already! You're clearly obsessed with each other.

>> No.19514867

What would you guys say are favorite books that filter women? I usually don't ask the question out of fear that the answer will immediately destroy my opinion of them.

>> No.19515159

>>19514820
Let's look at a snippet from 'The Posthumous Papers of the Pickwick Club':
>‘Why, I don’t know,’ replied the little man coolly; ‘saves time, I suppose. If it’s near dinner-time, the foreman takes out his watch when the jury has retired, and says, “Dear me, gentlemen, ten minutes to five, I declare! I dine at five, gentlemen.” “So do I,” says everybody else, except two men who ought to have dined at three and seem more than half disposed to stand out in consequence. The foreman smiles, and puts up his watch:—”Well, gentlemen, what do we say, plaintiff or defendant, gentlemen? I rather think, so far as I am concerned, gentlemen,—I say, I rather think—but don’t let that influence you—I rather think the plaintiff’s the man.” Upon this, two or three other men are sure to say that they think so too—as of course they do; and then they get on very unanimously and comfortably. Ten minutes past nine!’ said the little man, looking at his watch. ’Time we were off, my dear sir; breach of promise trial-court is generally full in such cases. You had better ring for a coach, my dear sir, or we shall be rather late.’
>Mr. Pickwick immediately rang the bell, and a coach having been procured, the four Pickwickians and Mr. Perker ensconced themselves therein, and drove to Guildhall; Sam Weller, Mr. Lowten, and the blue bag, following in a cab.
>‘Lowten,’ said Perker, when they reached the outer hall of the court, ‘put Mr. Pickwick’s friends in the students’ box; Mr. Pickwick himself had better sit by me. This way, my dear sir, this way.’ Taking Mr. Pickwick by the coat sleeve, the little man led him to the low seat just beneath the desks of the King’s Counsel, which is constructed for the convenience of attorneys, who from that spot can whisper into the ear of the leading counsel in the case, any instructions that may be necessary during the progress of the trial. The occupants of this seat are invisible to the great body of spectators, inasmuch as they sit on a much lower level than either the barristers or the audience, whose seats are raised above the floor. Of course they have their backs to both, and their faces towards the judge.
>‘That’s the witness-box, I suppose?’ said Mr. Pickwick, pointing to a kind of pulpit, with a brass rail, on his left hand.
>‘That’s the witness-box, my dear sir,’ replied Perker, disinterring a quantity of papers from the blue bag, which Lowten had just deposited at his feet.
>‘And that,’ said Mr. Pickwick, pointing to a couple of enclosed seats on his right, ‘that’s where the jurymen sit, is it not?’
>‘The identical place, my dear Sir,’ replied Perker, tapping the lid of his snuff-box.
That I've deliberately chosen a bit involving time should tell you something.
Ernest Hemingway, by contrast and with characteristic brevity, would have cut this repetitive drivel down to six short sentences.

>> No.19515201

>>19514867
Women make fun of men that read anything, but check literally any forum or social media around women reading. Every time its just YA novels. Book Tik Tok is dedicated around smut or YA, it lets people sign 6 figure book contracts. they read because they dont know how to do anything else. I was apart of a bookclub with it being a majority women and before me they read shit like scythe or Agatha Christine, and yes I did force them to read Idylls of a king, Dune, paradise lost etc. every book that has characters and i mean real characters filter women. all philosophy filters women. if you want a girl that reads she will read smut and YA, and if you give her your favorite novel she wont understand it.

>> No.19515317

>>19512232
What the fuck's wrong with Derrida?

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>>19512232
i kept reading through hoping to come across something that describes me but it never came up. no hate for chinese and japanese poets and travel writers?? i guess that falls under the "old masters"

>> No.19515379

>>19512232
The funny thing here is that these are fat ugly women who complain about how there are no men that meet their standards until they’re alone at 45 and get knocked up by some 30 year old nigger they the. have to spend a small fortune tracking down for child support payments.

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>>19512232
>avoid Aristotle

>> No.19515422

>>19512232
What if I say it's my diary desu?

>> No.19515583

>>19512504
>Yes, the implication is that a man who actually reads Foucault is an order of magnitude more likely to be homosexual or closeted, thereby hazarding spreading disease to her. The implication is sound.
That's not what she's implying at all

>> No.19516115

>>19515583

I didn't bother to read the OP since it isn't necessary to give a hot take which also happens to be true. That's what ""she"" should be implying, though.

>> No.19516135

>>19514867
Aristotle, Kant, Schopenhauer (Fourfold Root of Reason), anything autistic and based in really (seemingly) pedantic logical conceptualizations.

>> No.19516228

>>19513350
based

>> No.19516346

She didn't mention Murakami which means he wants to fuck his mom

>> No.19516390

What's the problem with Franzen? He was unironically my ex-girlfriends favorite writer but I never read him.

>> No.19516395

>>19512322
Based tusker

>> No.19516699

>>19512232
>that fucking grammar
>durnat
>probably lying and trying to just fuck you
Christ.

>> No.19516713

>>19512232
>if their into

>> No.19516933

>>19513936
If you truly resonated with Kafka, you'd be unemployed, so she'd tell you to get a job.

>> No.19516940

>>19512232
This is why I just give a book I like that they haven’t heard of. I don’t want weird snap judgements.

>> No.19516981

>r/femaledatingstrategy
The general gist is that these authors indicate that a man will not be desirable or easily exploitable by the sociopathic harpies that haunt that place. Any system of thought that's resistant to feminism, flirts with 'cancellable' topics, or indicates that you won't be a ripe and flowing source of money and social status for them ensnare and ultimately control, will be a red flag to them.

If anything, use this list as a way to filter out controlling/parasitical women.

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>>19512232
Today, I will remind them.

>> No.19517004

>>19512232
seems pretty accurate, except the part about aristotle, that one doesn't make any sense. what negative associations does she have there? because of how he was later co-opted by christians?

>> No.19517014

>>19512322
that makes no sense. strategy doesn't imply they can't get dates, it means they are trying to get top tier men and avoid creeps and losers. if you were a woman you'd want to get railed by a high status chad too and be extremely picky. why is everyone here always so critical of women on this point. you're all just player haters.

>> No.19517033

>>19516390
the jonathans are considered problematic and sort of "creepy" now. it happened somewhere in the early to mid 10s, and no one is exactly sure how or why, but women have an innate sense about these sorts of things from millions of years of evolution so I'll trust their instinct. might be the bird watching, anyone that is too interested in something that doesn't involve acquiring pussy or resources is not to be trusted.

>> No.19517041

fav book is Catch 22, but German idealism figures pretty high in my life

At any rate, what woman reads? I would just ply her with methamphetamine and camel cigarettes.

>> No.19517050

>>19512232
One of Bill Gate's favorite books is Catcher in The Rye and he's read thousand of books, not to mention he's been one of the richest men in the whole world for decades

>> No.19517060

>>19517050
i think you're making their point for them there, bud. women universally find bill gates creepy, and in light of recent news, seemingly for good reason.

>> No.19517075

>>19512232
any guy that can have an engaging, lengthy talk about whatever the fuck he enjoys is fine
>my female dating strategy

>> No.19517081

how to out filter women
>my favorite book is the Bible

>> No.19517286

>you have to read le books which are fair to women and which go out of their way to discuss the role of women in ancient societies
Nah

>> No.19517945

>>19512242
t. Haven't read Dostoevsky

>> No.19519204

>>19512232
Absolutely based, at least when it comes to recognizing what opinion on women their potential boyfriends have.

>> No.19519212

>>19513246
Nigga he had retarded views on women, also formal logic has been superseded like a century ago

>> No.19519239

>>19516981
Unironically all I can see in that community is women teaching each other to self-sabotage. As soon as you get out of the very basic tips (don't have sex with a man right away if you seek a relationship), this shit is basically insane - it's not them that will be vetting men, it's men that will be getting the fuck away from women like that. Those women expect first dates to be in expensive restaurants all paid for the men and give tips on how to access their boyfriends's phones, lmao, what kind of man do they think will be agreeing to this shit?

>> No.19519308

>>19512232
That thread appears every few months.
Are there any books that are green flags (besides Dickens in the screenshot)?

>> No.19519677

>>19515159
>Hemingway
If I wanted to read a third-grader's prose, I'd be an elementary school teacher.

>> No.19519796

>>19519677
Nice non-argument that fails to address the substance of the post, faggot

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>>19512232
interesting lack of Nabokov though maybe Nabokov fans wouldn't go for hags on /r/FDS

>> No.19520143

>>19512232
>avoid anyone into Aristotle
>Kant and Hegel is generally ok
???

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Why yes, Moby Dick IS my favorite book.
How did you know?

>> No.19520537

>>19512314
are you a woman? if so I'll read it

>> No.19520608

>>19519968
Nabokov fans go to /r/EILI5
although they read it too fast; only got the "like i'm five" part

>> No.19520628

>>19512232
but she didn't say "run" away from those interested in 19th century Russian literature. That's a win, boys!

>> No.19520634

>>19512232
Actually I'm surprised she thinks the Durants are okay. This kinda makes me think this whole thing was written by a dude, and that the whole post is bait.

>> No.19520643

>>19519968
Fuck it, i'm going all in on Nabokov.
Where's the chart? Or just a list

>> No.19520764

>>19520643
I've only read a few of this short stories plus Lolita today but my favorite is "Signs and Symbols"

>> No.19520776 [DELETED] 

>>19519212
>Nigga he had retarded views on women

His objective description of women is accurate. What was retarded?

>> No.19520787

>>19519212
>Nigga he had retarded views on women

His description of women is accurate. What was retarded? The part about being incomplete men?

>> No.19520793

>>19520628
We know you haven't touched a woman in years, dude.

>> No.19520816

>>19517014
>you're all just player haters.
Yes that's exactly why. Dating as a game is retarded. It's just as stupid when men do it.