Are there truly evil females?

[Anonymous No.19507417]

Outside from petty "evilness" that comes out of manipulating relationships? Are women capable of true evil? In the sense of becoming vilified like Hitler. With women's liberation, will they live up to the potential of "evilness"? Or if one came to power, everybody will just brush her off because "women are nice" spell? Or if Hitler was not truly evil, will any woman become a vilified scapegoat as much as Hitler is?

[Anonymous No.19507425]

>>19507417
what about that lady who put her man's dick in a blender?
captcha was kkka4
i chuckled

[Anonymous No.19507443]

>>19507417
Yes, there was this American bitch in the 70s or something who tortured a young woman because she was attractive.

[Anonymous No.19507452]

>>19507425
>>19507443
And? Will there ever be a woman to do "evil" things in the scale of Hitler?

[Anonymous No.19507485]

>>19507452
Hitler was less evil than them. What he did was on a mass scale as nations, what they did was personal and brutal.

[Anonymous No.19507497]

>>19507452
Give them time. They've been baby machines for most of human history and we've only had contraception in the past century. Indira Ghandi and Thatcher are the only women I can come up with who're responsible for atrocities on a large scale, but I'm sure if you give it a couple hundred years you'll get something hitler-esque.

[Anonymous No.19507502]

>>19507417
>>19507417
Báthory?
And no, because no woman would ever be able to get that much power like Hitler or Stalin

[Anonymous No.19507504]

Hillary Clinton is unironically like Bathory tier evil, and when she dies the truth will eventually come out.

[Anonymous No.19507514]

>>19507497
Will she be demonized as much as Hitler does? Or will people especially white knights deny her "evilness" simply because she's a woman?

[Anonymous No.19507517]

>>19507452
what did hitler do that was so evil? he didn't kill the jews, he didn't start the holohoax, he just wanted his people to be successful and have space to live and be happy

[Anonymous No.19507523]

>>19507504
She'll be in jail any day now, right fellow patriot

[Anonymous No.19507524]

>>19507517
I didn't say he's evil. I'm saying that he may or may not be evil, but the notoriety remains. I'm asking whether ANY woman can get as much notoriety as Hitler or not.

[Anonymous No.19507527]

Margaret thatcher
Any chinese princess
What a shitty thread, how is this related to literature at all

[Anonymous No.19507538]

>>19507514
Depends on how hot she is.

[Anonymous No.19507542]

>>19507452
Hitler didn't any evil thing in a grand scale.

[Anonymous No.19507548]

>>19507417

[Anonymous No.19507552]

>>19507527
>>19507527
It's funny Ghandi and Thatcher committed crimes against humanity and they're lauded for it because girl power. Ghandi was assasinated by her bodyguards because she was such a fucking witch and she was named woman of the millennium.

[Anonymous No.19507556]

>>19507417
I’m disappointed in all of you for not posting the most obvious choice.

[Anonymous No.19507560]

>>19507524
Well, women generally can't get as much notoriety as men so probably not.

[Anonymous No.19507571]

>>19507552
Whos Ghandi?

[Anonymous No.19507637]

Female evil often tends to be lazy and channelized; small in scale and complex in execution.

[Anonymous No.19507646]

>>19507548

[Anonymous No.19507685]

>>19507452
No. I'm reading 'Sexual Personae' right now and Camille Paglia says it best when she says that there is no female Jack the Ripper for the same reason that there is no female Mozart.

I would say that, as a female myself, I don't feel the same strain or depth of drive to separate myself from the masses via acts of heroism, depravity, or creativity because I am already afforded a base amount of attention and grace simply because I am a woman. Men built societies to make individuals out of themselves, but living in a society doesn't automatically make you an individual. Society only ever promises a chance, if that. Most of the time men are just economic units for the government to suck money out of, that they then have to satisfy enough to get men to go to war for them. The advent of birth control elevated (or reduced, depending on your perspective) women to economic units as well, but even while the culture may treat men and women equally now, the law still skews heavily towards favoring women (in most regards).

Simply put, I'm not sure I can envision a woman getting a) mad enough to revolt at such a scale, b) charismatic enough to mobilize a populace behind her, or c) organized enough to effectuate such a strategy.

>>19507637
Basically this

[Anonymous No.19507790]

>>19507685
Retard since modern medicine there have been multiple heinously evil women. The only argument that might hold some water is that it's hormonal--since your social constructionist view of female behavior means that social and technological advancements could change those behaviors. That said, even the hormonal argument doesn't strike me as very convincing, because there've been some pretty evil impotent men, just take Hitler for an example.

[Anonymous No.19507811]

[Anonymous No.19507820]

>>19507552
Indira Ghandhi is basically Hitler for Sikhs, I think she's the closest.

[Anonymous No.19507843]

>>19507811
The level of contempt she has for America is crazy. They aren't even trying to hide the marxist takeover anymore.

[Anonymous No.19507860]

>>19507790
Retard I was responding to OP and to >>19507452 which posed the question of women being evil on the scale of Hitler. As OP already mentioned women, individually, are largely capable of every act of malice that men are capable of such as the ones you point out medically -- Nurse Ratchet types like Jane Toppan or Kristen Gilbert -- or women like Aileen Wuornos, which is probably the most household female serial killer name because she actually used a gun. Women by and large don't use lethal force which is why women statistically have higher rates of suicidal ideation but not of suicide itself. They use alcohols, pills and poisons, as you pointed out, to kill themselves and others.

Unless we invent some nuclear bomb version of morphine, I just don't seem women as being capable of killing on the scale of men like Hitler, which was the point that I was responding to.

>>19507811
lmao

[Anonymous No.19507887]

>>19507452

Hitler wasn't evil, just ambitious

[Anonymous No.19508093]

>>19507417
Karla Homolka killed people with her husband, and used her femininity to get a plea bargain. She's out of prison and was found working at a fucking school a couple years back. Hey, that's the Canadian justice and education system for ya.

[Anonymous No.19508160]

evilness is not exclusive to men. in fact, women with the dark triad of personality embody evilness. if only you knew one in person. for historical cases there's chinese Daji for example

[Anonymous No.19508222]

>>19507548
> Oh no, someone stop her before she ends our bout of stagflation and protects the rightful clay of the former British empire!

[Anonymous No.19508241]

>>19507811
Did you know that "kamala" means "horrible" in Finnish?

[Anonymous No.19508543]

>>19507860
And I was rebutting your claim, since there have been female world leaders--like Ghandi and Thatcher who've been mentioned throughout the thread--with bodycounts to match male dictators. Although they aren't on the same level as the very worst genocides, they've only really had a hundred years to show what they can do. Give them another millennia and they'll commit crimes against humanity, too. What we probably won't see is individual women without any kind of institutional power committing a series of perverse crimes (in the vein of Albert Fish, Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, etc.) for the reasons you've pointed out, but also because law enforcement is far more efficacious than it was even 50 years ago.

[Anonymous No.19508557]

>>19507417
>hitler
>evil
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.19508581]

>>19508557
Go back to your containment board /pol/ack. We know you don't actually read; if you did you'd quickly realize that your entire ideology is a hoax that most of the world was too smart to believe a century ago.

[Anonymous No.19508798]

>>19507685
I think you could have a women who does Hitler level evil, but I don’t think it would look significantly different than the male variety. I’m agnostic towards Thatcher since I’m not British, but I think her and Ghandi prove that you could have a skilled female politician who leads all the usual men to commit genocide for all the usual reasons.

[Anonymous No.19508830]

>>19507517
Got his country involved in a war they clearly had no real hope of winning and continued to double down until his people were being bombed and raped in the streets. His decisions resulted in the suffering of millions of his own people, that sounds pretty evil to me.

[Anonymous No.19508836]

>>19507685
>Camille Paglia
She is a pedo supporter.

[Anonymous No.19508838]

>>19507685
I made this same exact argument to my ex earlier today, even quoting Paglia, and she finally blocked me.
Not even joking btw

[Anonymous No.19508888]

>>19507443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sylvia_Likens ?

[Anonymous No.19508973]

>>19507417
Elizabeth Bathory was pretty evil. Countess/serial killer in the 1500s...took peasant girls and daughters of lesser nobles and tortured them to death in her castle. Estimates put the number tortured/murdered at around 300. I'd say she was a lot more evil than Hitler.

There are also a few ancient Chinese political figures who did some really fucked up shit. Empress Wu was fairly ruthless (but her reputation has been pretty white-washed).

Aside, as far as males go it seems a lot more evil to abuse power to inflict torment for personal sadistic pleasure. Sure, Nazism was an ideological monster and Hitler was at its head but at least it's somewhat detached. Using China as an example again, there was a prince (Liu Pengli) who was pretty much the same as Ramsey Bolton; he was bad enough that the Emperor at the time was asked to execute him--he ended up just taking away his lands/title and banishing him.

I don't know. Different faces of evil. Both are scary.