/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19502451]

How can anyone read this and not think the narrator is a total piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.19502459]

>>19502451
I was confused about that too. Maybe reading books in a similar style would help. Anyone have any "books for Lolita fans" chart?

[Anonymous No.19502512]

>>19502459
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Manga Edition)

[Anonymous No.19502560]

>>19502451
It's a psychological study, and in no way an endorsement, of the high IQ-type pedophile bested to an extent by the far more practical intelligence of the "lolita."
Pedophiles basically come in two classic types (at least in the developed world). Explained below:

Pedophilia is frequently a disease either of the very dumb or the very intelligent: in both cases it represents the impact of the image of the female child in the libidinal memory of the subject. In the first, stupidity has fossilized the mind, but usually not the body. The second indicates a testimony to the fact that precocious intelligence is often accompanied pari passu with precocious Eros: an indivisible longing constitutive of both libidinal desire and a genuinely, even agonizingly, profound romantic love. Ingrained in the mind of the male genius is very often an insurmountable nostalgie for that first and purest (because preadolescent) form of the feminine other made notable to them: that of the female child.

[Anonymous No.19502937]

>>19502459
Anything about Batman

[Anonymous No.19502949]

>>19502560
>of the high IQ-type pedophile
from the book he seemed to be an unreliable narrator playing up his intellect and pretentious attitude

[Anonymous No.19502956]

>>19502451
Wasn't the play writer worse? Probably an extroverted sick fuck

[Anonymous No.19502966]

>>19502451
it must be hard to enjoy casual reading when youre able to grasp such carefully hidden themes as ‘the narrator of lolita sucks’

[Anonymous No.19503027]

>>19502451
Right?
I remember reading it thinking "This is supposed to be the good guy?!?!"
Tbh i didn''t find him redeemable. There's a part where he literally has sex with a 12 year old outta nowhere lmao. Also he didnt show much remorse when his literal gf who loved him died in a car crash

[Anonymous No.19503298]

>>19502451
Kek he describes the girl he has a crush on as "prey" literally top kek

[Anonymous No.19503320]

>>19502949
>He suffers death of preteen love destroying him
>Suffers from mental illness later on

[Anonymous No.19503326]

>>19502459
I don't know anon pretty new to /lit/ in the meantime you could study human sexuality?

[Anonymous No.19503329]

>>19502560
I don't know what this means

[Anonymous No.19503337]

>>19502560
Wht about mid range iq pedophiles kekekek you got a cure doc or what?

[Anonymous No.19503350]

>>19502560
>the high IQ-type pedophile
Humbert is the definition of a midwit, this is one of the central themes of the book.

[Anonymous No.19503354]

People always ask "when does paedophilia start"... Rather than when does it stop? Didn't all of you gay straight whatever have crushes in elementary school and before?? When did that "stop" for you?

[Anonymous No.19503399]

>>19503350
Humberto supposedly wrote this work of lyrical brilliance: first person narrator (so no).

[Anonymous No.19503415]

>>19503354
It stops when the law says it stops no questions no excuses

[Anonymous No.19503426]

>>19503415
no it stops and starts when science says it does lol

[Anonymous No.19503437]

My current view on pedophilia and LGBT people is that I am sure they exist naturally but that the majority are created via jewish propoganda especially pornography i think it can be natural because well people are born without fingers or with extra fingers or are born retarded it's not mind bending to fathom a "born this way" homosexual anything that is not sexual reproduction is a mental illness so if one is obsessed with breasts to the point of fixation or leather or feet etc then i would say they are sick it is a matter of bad genes

[Anonymous No.19503453]

>>19503415
it's like... you don't want to delve into what makes a person who they are romantically and sexually or discuss the book you just want to humbug pedophillia bad which is understandable but so so boring the question posed was when do people stop liking children when they did originally what are peoples age ranges as they grow is a fair and normal question instead of knee jerk oh muh law

[Anonymous No.19503471]

i recently found korn and felt these two songs really fit humbert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUHCdIVEfE&ab_channel=Korn-Topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lZS80zQrSU&ab_channel=Korn-Topic
i just wish i could see through characters eyes sometimes shady characters like humbert especially

[Anonymous No.19503480]

>>19503354
People are meant to graduate from having crushes on the age cohort they had crushes on in elementary school. In the case of males, at least, I'm not quite sure this is actually ever fully resolved. Just consider the flagrant case of Japan: where the very epitome of beauty is the uniformed school girl. Certainly attraction to the very young is grotesque, but girls pre-middle school are often already quite physically developed. The point is that there is far more latitude in attraction towards the earlier age ranges among males, than among females, for obvious biological and evolutionary reasons. The average male may be more susceptible to perceiving past juvenile attractions as still at least partially viable (voyeurism, etc) than the average female.

[Anonymous No.19503484]

>high school literature class
>get to choose what we read for a unit
>one of the sets of books is Dracula, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice, and Lolita
>choose Dracula
>oneitis chooses Lolita
>take oneitis to prom
>she reveals she's been sleeping with older (30 year old+) men on the regular she meets at hookah lounges
Do you think she got inspired

[Anonymous No.19503526]

>>19503480
>age cohort
how large is this age cohort? would you think it's strange for a fourth grade to like a kidnergartener?

[Anonymous No.19503550]

>>19503484
lolita is like 11-14 then an adult in the novel no? humbert begins to complain about her looks at age 14 i think? you wouldn't have sex with a hot 30 year old in highschool kek? lolita is classic literature and she's a girl so she probably thought it was a romance novel

[Anonymous No.19503554]

>>19503526
That's by no means unheard of.

[Anonymous No.19503563]

>>19503554
what age is it unacceptable? how large is an "age cohort"

[Anonymous No.19503574]

>>19503554
i was in the fourth grade and told my friend i liked kindergarteners and he told me it was not "cool" to like girls below the third grade or over the 5th

[Anonymous No.19503579]

>>19503563
I'm not talking about acceptability, I'm talking about commonality. I don't think the example you gave is frankly that outre.

[Anonymous No.19503585]

>>19503579
I'm asking you plainly what the average humans cohort is. When is it unacceptable for a healthy human to like a kidnergartener.

[Anonymous No.19503588]

>>19503550
>lolita is classic literature and she's a girl so she probably thought it was a romance novel
yeah probably true
admittedly only the first guy was 30 the later ones were 40
and it wasn't just pump and dump it was long relationships

[Anonymous No.19503601]

>>19503588
40 fucking years old holy shit 30 is pushing it unless it's a horndog imo

[Anonymous No.19503611]

is there a novel on par with lolita about transgenderism or rape or some other extreme sexual deviation? gay anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsZt6z4_0I&ab_channel=Korn-Topic

[Anonymous No.19503633]

>>19503601
Yeah. I'm getting married but i still think about this chick. i could have saved her but she was getting ran through by hairy old turkish men or something at Aladdin Hookah and Cafe or something. something like that

[Anonymous No.19503654]

>>19503633
that's disgusting kek

[Anonymous No.19503817]

>>19502459
Yep

[Anonymous No.19503860]

>>19503817
I never knew Coraline was a novel i love claymation that's a good movie although a bit weird at the middle what does "guide to little girls" mean?

[Anonymous No.19503889]

>>19502451
I almost cried lolita two or three times the novel was just a unch in the guts her hooked me in in the beginning but i just didn't walk away feeling like Humbert loved Dolores sometimes i wish i didn't read it but how could i have known until i did i had originally thought humbert was going to be a 30 something dating a 16-27 something for a summer fling that's what 4chan led me and the movie led me to believe but it was a nice surprise when i found the book was going to be edgier and he was into girls much younger than i had anticipated but it kept taking turns i didn't like i feel bad for humbert i because he has trauma from the death of his first love so even though he may do or think bad things i try to remember i am no better than anyone and that i cannot see through humberts eyes or feel how he feels

[Anonymous No.19503902]

I almost cried reading lolita two or three times the novel was just a punch in the guts her hooked me in in the beginning but i just didn't walk away feeling like Humbert loved Dolores sometimes i wish i didn't read it but how could i have known until i did. I had originally thought humbert was going to be a 30 something dating a 16-17 something for a summer fling that's what 4chan and the movie led me to believe but it was a nice surprise when i found the book was going to be edgier and he was into girls much younger than i had anticipated but it kept taking turns i didn't like i feel bad for humbert i because he has trauma from the death of his first love so even though he may do or think bad things i try to remember i am no better than anyone and that i cannot see through humberts eyes or feel how he feels

[Anonymous No.19503937]

>>19503860
It's a list meant for writers interested in writing strong female characters and for readers who want to share those kinds of stories.

[Anonymous No.19503970]

>>19503937
>Lolita
Lol

[Anonymous No.19503978]

>>19503902
My heart got stomped a tad

[Anonymous No.19503990]

Am i wrong in interpreting this? He is going to mate woth dolres then molest his own child then molest his own grandchild he had with his granddaughter?

[Anonymous No.19504003]

Am i wrong in interpreting this? He is going to mate with dolores then molest his own child then molest his own grandchild he had with his granddaughter?

[Anonymous No.19504422]

>>19503354
It didn't, I've been attracted to girls of all ages since I can remember. My first crush was about 14 when I was about 7 or 8, I lost my virginity to a 35 year old when I was 18. But the "libido" switch first turned on when I was about 10 or 11, looking up at a 9 or 10 year old girl walking on top of a playground obstacle, she was wearing a skirt and pink panties, it was a completely new feeling. I still think girls that age are very beautiful but I'm sane enough not to act on it even though they do develop crushes on guys of just about all ages, it's just not worth it, and I'm fortunate enough to be attracted to fully developed girls as well

[Anonymous No.19505093]

>>19503585
I'm not trying to be coy: in the case of children it'd be highly unusual beyond elementary school for a child to have romantic feelings for a kindergartener.

[Anonymous No.19505097]

>>19503611
Myra Breckinridge by Gore Vidal

[Anonymous No.19505122]

>>19503633
>i could have saved her
lol

[Anonymous No.19505136]

>>19504003
Uhm did you skip the part where he fantasised about killing her mother?

[Anonymous No.19505478]

>>19503902
I cried at the end when he talks about the "hearing" thing. Humbert does know what love is, even if he has deranged ideas about little girls being "nymphettes"

[Anonymous No.19506302]

>>19505136
Is that what he's saying? He wants to molest his own daughter imprgnate her and then molest his granddaughter kek?

[Anonymous No.19506314]

>>19504422
I've always liked all girls myself I don't really understand normies they are weird I've had sexual and romantic feels as long as i can remember other people seem to develope at different rates

[Anonymous No.19506320]

>>19505093
So the 5th grade?

[Anonymous No.19506324]

>>19505097
This novel is written at the height of jewish subversion of the west and the united states are you sure it's a genuine "seeing through the eyes" of sexual minorities? I just find sex psychology so fascinating

[Anonymous No.19506511]

>>19506320
Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Anonymous No.19506560]

>>19502451
literally EVERY man would bust a nut into a 14yo into given the chance. i feel like sooner or later our society will have to come to terms with that.

also you're a retard OP

[Anonymous No.19506739]

>>19506560
That's the slipperiest of slopes, and you know it.

[Anonymous No.19507007]

>>19502451
That's the point, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.19507388]

>>19507007
That’s the point of the thread, dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.19507392]

>>19506560
No you’re just a pedophile

[Anonymous No.19507419]

>>19502451
"Epstein, the wealthy financier whose acquaintances included Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, killed himself at a New York City jail in August 2019, while awaiting his own sex-trafficking trial.

Maxwell, 59, his former girlfriend and the daughter of the late British publishing baron Robert Maxwell, was arrested in July 2020 at a luxurious New Hampshire estate. She denies all the charges against her.

The images discussed on Friday were recovered during searches of Epstein’s various residences. One depicted a young girl pulling down her underwear, exposing her buttocks."

He would be a classic case of high IQ pedophile.

[Anonymous No.19507591]

>>19506302
Yes

[Anonymous No.19508868]

>>19507392