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How do I start with Indian literature? Is it just thousands of pages of holy texts or is there any better way?

>> No.19500287

>>19500276
The orange clothes are a nice touch

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>>19500276
>Ethan Crumbley quoted Bhagavad Gita
no, he quoted Oppenheimer quoting the Gita. a video recording of this he likely saw on /gif/. don't be mistaken, he wasn't "deep" and "erudite" by any measure. no one in this godforsaken generation is. do not mourn him and do not mourn his victims

>> No.19500314

>>19500302
>doesn't even have a Gucci belt
Why did he do it?

>> No.19500317

Read the Holy Vedas and nothing more.

>> No.19500334

>>19500302
Don't even know who he is bro

>> No.19500359 [DELETED] 

>>19500302
why am I still too ESL to understand what his post means?

>> No.19500363

>>19500302
kek is this your hero incels?

>> No.19500374 [DELETED] 

Wait, he lived?!

zoomers are cringe.

>> No.19500383

>>19500276
Can someone post the Chudjak pic? I think we need a final solution for the incel question desu

>> No.19500385

>>19500334
This video is viral man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac&ab_channel=PlenilunePictures

Look at the social media posts of this 14 year old and tell me what's more likely - he saw the edgy meme video with the most famous Gita quote or has actually read Indian scriptures in detail?

>don't know who Robert Oppenheimer is
Jfc he led project trinity to develop nukes for America and led the first test in Los Alamos. He's the father of the atomic bomb (his actual nickname) then spent his whole life dedicated to stopping nuclear proliferation as if he could close Pandora's box - shows how one of the most brilliant physicists could be so retarded. Even worked with the Communist Party so the US government stripped him of all his power and he was blacklisted for life.

>> No.19500386

>>19500302
>Ethan is shown to be an unreliable narrator as seen through how he proclaims "[Gucci belts] dats [sic] all I need" in an Instagram post from November
>but there seems to be no Gucci belt in the frame, highlighting how he uses the visual medium to undermine his own words, gradually coaxing the reader to come to their own conclusions than to believe his every word

>> No.19500390

>>19500276
He has a mutt phenotype like Rittencasa

>> No.19500403

>>19500359
See >>19500385
There's a short, famous video of the man who led the project to develop nuclear weapons for the US. He succeeded and was guilty for the rest of his life. 20 years later he recorded a video of the reaction to the test and said the "Now I am become death" quote, which is like saying you know the Bible because you can name some of the Ten Commandments.

Don't try to find some deep philosophical meaning behind him or a secret motive. He was an edgy 14 year old who went overboard. No political agenda or religious mission lmao

>> No.19500405

>>19500276
Why did he do it bros? Too much vidya? Incel? Psyoped?

>> No.19500406
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Something must be done to convince impressionable kids that their life in high school isn't the be-all, end-all. It just seems like a lot of these incels see that if they don't "make it" super young in life, that they can't continue.

>> No.19500407

>>19500385
I meant I don't know who's the guy in the op. I just posted it cause I found it funny. I don't care about American crap.

>> No.19500417

>>19500406
Good luck trying to convince extremely-hormone-induced kids about this. What matters is the immediate reality for them.

>> No.19500423

>>19500406
This. I was bullied in schools for my red hair but I rebounded, decided to commit myself to science and literature and now I have a pretty good job and am genuinely quite happy. My bullies ended up in the gutter or low-end jobs anyway so I guess justice has been served. Maybe it's just that I'm European and only American "culture" produces this kind of hot-headed rampage shooters

>> No.19500431

>>19500276
Prostitution should be legal and 16 year olds should be able to hire them so we don’t get these chudcels killing their social superiors.
>inb4 whining

>> No.19500434

>>19500431
Don't you have escorts in America?

>> No.19500435

>>19500406
R9k is still hung up over highschool, even the ones in their mid 20's

>> No.19500439

>>19500431
This, people will laugh, women would be scared but the truth is these teenage boys need to fuck some women to unload the rage.
Look at his YT channel, this boy had so much potential to be a productive member of society but couldnt find a pussy to fuck and it all went to waste.

>> No.19500440

>>19500434
Literally nope.
Even as an adult I would have no idea where to find a prostitute, even an illegal one.

>> No.19500445 [DELETED] 

>>19500403
kid, I know Oppenheimer. I mean the
>Got bread and ahhh gucci belt dats all i need
post.

>> No.19500448

>>19500431

brutalize the individual. dont let them get weapons. then induce suicidal thoughts. weakness dissapears.

>> No.19500450

>>19500445
Bread is money I think?
Gucci belt is a Gucci belt, hip hop culture idolized that brand.
So money and "expensive" clothing is all he needs from life.

>> No.19500452

>>19500445
Nocap gucci be bussin frfr ongah

>> No.19500454

>>19500406
Damage in your formative years fucks you up for the rest of your life.

>> No.19500456 [DELETED] 

>>19500450
>He has money
>and "one" gucci belt is what he needs.
Is he saying he is going to buy a gucci belt now?

>> No.19500459

for real just normalize suicide

>> No.19500464

>>19500456
He's just typing something he thinks will sound cool

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>now I've become death slayer of the zoomzoom

>> No.19500469

>>19500440
Just becayse you don't know where to get an escort doesn't mean they can't be gotten.

>> No.19500471 [DELETED] 

>>19500464
ok. I am simply scared one day when I am visiting America a kid will come up to me and talk like this and because I don't understand him he will shoot me.

>> No.19500472

>>19500435
I think it boils down to celebrity, a lot of these guys have high expectations of themselves and want to prove that they are the "best" and put on a pedestal. For some who peak in high school, then drop off they long for the days they "had it". Narcissism run rampant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL-VX3WbA9U

>> No.19500473

>>19500445
My interpretation was that he has money and a Gucci belt so he’s content. Will we need translators for muttspeak in the future?

>> No.19500474

>>19500406
They're not wrong, though. If you haven't accomplished something meaningful prior to HS graduation, you've failed, and will remain a failure. That's why people peak in HS, it's the actual benchmark.
>If you're still a virgin
>If you haven't written a masterpiece
>If you haven't amassed wealth
prior to graduating HS, the likelihood of you succeeding in any endeavor is essentially 0, no amount of networking in college can fix you. It's over.

>> No.19500484

>>19500454
>damage
nigga this kid lived in the United States in 2021. I grew up in an Eastern European post-soc shithole in the 90s/00s where deviating slightly from the norm was seen as a grave threat to the community that legitimized beating you up. Americans and Western Europeans can't imagine how bad it was in the transformation period. the police was completely oblivious and indifferent to what was going on in the schools and in the streets. I was called names, beaten up and I couldn't do anything to counter it. yet I grew up and am a relatively stable person (I still have to take medication and visit a therapist though). what "damage" did this fucking zoomer suffer? someone posted a mean comment on his TikTok?

>> No.19500486

>>19500407
Oh okay well good post then
>>19500434
We have them, there are many if you're rich enough to buy an exclusive service (doesn't explicitly say escorts but you can tell) however they're very hard to find and many "ads" for escorts can be scams or undercover cops because apparently the police is obsessed with arresting people for trying to get laid.
>>19500445
I'm in my 20's, dated zoomer girls and they all speak in memes I don't even understand them. There's a new one every week too. Don't debase yourself trying to understand zoomer mutt "culture" please.

>> No.19500488

>>19500474
People who “peaked in high school” are fat, have a beergut and watch sportsball all day. The real cutoff is Uni.

>> No.19500491

>>19500474

>people peak in HS

You get lost on your way to r9k lil fella?

>> No.19500503

>>19500471
Just stay away from the south

>> No.19500506

>>19500484
to play devils advocate, there could be damage that is unseen, eg poor parental unit etc.

>> No.19500507

>>19500469
Obviously, I'm just saying its not something the average American boy can use to satiaste his libido.

>> No.19500511 [DELETED] 

>>19500488
>>19500491
It's just a byproduct of late-stage capitalism (something even the writers of of a shit-show like R&M recognize and acknowledge). No need to seethe about it.

>> No.19500519 [DELETED] 

>>19500484
read Foucault.
This kid's punishments were far more sever than your beatings.

>> No.19500520

>>19500473
>>19500486
>he thinks it's an American problem
Poor fools, discord and twitch brought it worldwide.

>> No.19500525

>>19500506
That's nonsense.
>>19500519
Also nonsense.

>> No.19500536

>some 15 year old with antisocial personality disorder is now being called an incel
Holy shit what a meaningless term

>> No.19500537

>>19500506
>to play devils advocate, there could be damage that is unseen, eg poor parental unit etc.
we had that too though and yet we haven't had a school shooting since 1920s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilno_school_massacre
truth of the matter is zoomers have the highest time preference of all generations in history. they are extremely impatient, they lack planning ability and forsight and they want everything delivered to them now without any effort on their side. I blame too lax parenting and lack of good role models

>> No.19500538

>>19500435
Nobody gets over lacking the chance to enjoy prime teen pussy and the HS life of freedom and free of responsibility - compared to when you get older at least. Late bloomers will never get the chance and often cope. They can live a happy life but nothing replaces the freedom and thrill of a good high school life. This >>19500474 retard doesn't get it. (Also the "everyone peaks in HS" meme is a massive cope, must successful people at mine joined frats, kept getting women, studied business, got decent careers, and are now well-adjusted middle class people with families. Yeah you'll get the burnouts who become cops but you're missing the point. The whole peak in HS meme is sour grapes. Or what develop what Nietzsche calls "Ressentiment."

HS shows you where your place truly is at that point. People don't care about your career or degree or grades, your hierarchy is based almost solely on your physical/social skills. If you can't play sports or you're a sperg you'll miss out and never get the chance again. Banging teen girls when you caught up in your late 20's and can compensate won't beat the real thing, sorry.

>> No.19500545

>>19500538
Nigga, you coping.
>Nietzsche
What a fucking pseud.

>> No.19500550

>>19500536
I remember scrolling through Twitter when that adult archie show (riverdale i think) came out and one of the most trending things was a ton of normal woman arguing among themselves whether Jughead was a incel or a vocel.

>> No.19500555

>>19500520
I didn't say that. But it started here. When America sneezes, the whole world catches a cold. Or at least the parts without shariah law and authoritarian governments. Find zoomer behavior among muslims or chinks.

>> No.19500563

>>19500474
Does nobody see that this guy is being facetious? I mean who amasses wealth or writes a masterpiece before graduating highschool?

You fools got baited hard

>> No.19500567

>>19500525
how is that nonsense? plenty of abused people will suffer in silence

>> No.19500571

>>19500545
I'm pointing out he's coping. I used to also, then I realized I was just jaded. But you're obviously not interested, sorry for the effort posts, big oof and yikes sorry for the cringe

>> No.19500586

>>19500563
Yeah some people took his bait but also his facetious attitude is a cope. Missed youth is missed youth, it's emotional and psychological so people will just pretend jocks peaked and are miserable while they get the last laugh. The "peaked in HS" stuff is as common here as it used to be on Reddit. And probably still is. At least /r9k/ wallows in self misery instead of trying to cope and craft some kind of superiority complex (when it's really just a product of the opposite)

>> No.19500589

>>19500445
Ayo on my momma no cap you deadass ain't got no designer on your waist frfr tho? Deadass you ain't got no bread n bitches frfr tho? U whilin frfr tho

>> No.19500591

>>19500536
I use chud instead since he has the phenotype

>> No.19500600

>>19500550
Jughead is a chat who dates Betty, played by girl in picrel. And they actually date in real life too. It's an excuse to use a popular brand like archie for a teenage drama with western normies. Like the american version of death note. So tiresome.

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>>19500538
>HS shows you where your place truly is at that point. People don't care about your career or degree or grades, your hierarchy is based almost solely on your physical/social skills. If you can't play sports or you're a sperg you'll miss out and never get the chance again
Why are americans like this? Is it something in the water? I can't literally think of another place where kids base their entire self worth on how much they got laid or played sports at high school, even worse, I went to high school with two of these super high school winners and one of them is a criminal now and the other has a shitty wagie job, and the cutest girl got fucking pregnant and ruined her life
Calm down son, not everything you read on 4chan is real
I agree on something though, when I was 16 most bitches my age were a pain to be around, but I would stroll down the other school and pick up 11 - 14 y/o girls as soon as their classes where over, what a time to be alive, no man should ever miss on cunny love

>> No.19500613

>>19500591
He doesn't exactly have it. The whole eye/brow region is wrong. Just has a weak chin

>> No.19500614

>>19500537
I think in part is the dissolution of "clubs" or outlets wherein this disaffected can congregate and have an outlet. Plenty of musicians were isolated, loners in high school, but found solace with a band or whatnot and grew their confidence by channeling their anger somewhere else.

But with the rise of internet chatrooms etc, people can search up "blackpill" etc and exist in an echo chamber of misery which leads them to a conclusion to destroy, rather than create

>> No.19500615

>>19500591
chud is a right wing version of a soi boy/nice guy or "simp" people with regular phenotypes have normie political beliefs and don't care about that stuff, abnormal phenotype gravitate towards extreme ideologies that's all their is, look at the phenotype of antifa types and far leftists. At least chuds don't die their hair and get piercings and try to be "unique" artists or some shit.

>> No.19500617

>>19500606
Stop roleplaying, you gross sack of shit. You're a creepy loser.

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>>19500484
>nigga this kid lived in the United States in 2021. I grew up in an Eastern European post-soc shithole in the 90s/00s

So? Some medieval serf got conscripted into his lord's army and later came back home to find his family and most of his neighbors had died of the Black Death. He would then spend the rest of his life in hard labor, toiling at the soil not far from where they were buried. Are the struggles of later generations dismissed because most of us didn't live a life harsher than some random serfs? Of course not.

Suffering isn't objective. It's relative. A personal Hell to one man is just a rough couple of days to another.

>> No.19500627

>>19500538
>prime teen pussy
its always so so so gross when a grown man writes something like this. when you grow up you learn to see and want something outside of the idealized version of what is proliferated in porn and film.

>> No.19500635

>>19500606
This took a turn kek

>> No.19500638

>>19500484
Sounds like a based environment. If you got beat its probably because you were a deviant faggot

>> No.19500640

>>19500627
You must be aware that writing a post like this is just waving a flag that you're a woman

>> No.19500643

>>19500538
facts facts facts this nigga SPITTIN

>> No.19500646

>>19500555
You're joking right?
China is even worse which is why Xi is trying to crack down on it so hard.

>> No.19500651

>>19500276
Indian literature can't be read in English. Of course, there are Indian authors who write in English but they don't capture the essence of India and they are almost no proper translations of good Indian regional books.

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>>19500640
grow up

>> No.19500657

>>19500606
Holy based

>> No.19500659

>>19500640
Its a tranny.
Real women know how the world works.

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>>19500617
Ah, jealous, I see, don't worry mate, you can pick up used bitches any time you want, the ol' murican style

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>>19500623
>Some medieval serf got conscripted into his lord's army and later came back home to find his family and most of his neighbors had died of the Black Death.
compulsory military service wasn't a thing before the French Revolution
>Suffering isn't objective. It's relative. A personal Hell to one man is just a rough couple of days to another.
yes and in a potential utopia a man who cuts his finger will be the most miserable man in the world. that doesn't mean I'm going to dignify his suffering which is real compared to the rest of utopia's inhabitants. common sense truth - kids today have it extremely easy and I'm tired of pretending they haven't

>> No.19500672

>Mahabharata 10x longer than the Illiad & Odissey
>Ramayana over one thousand pages long
Wow these Hindu epics are really long

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>>19500615
Chud is a particular sort of phenotype though, if you go by the actual mass shooters associated with it. They're all slightly Hispanic, have very gracile bone structure making a sort of shapeless face filled out with a bit of fat, full lips, slightly bulbous nose, hooded eyes indicating sociopathy, frowns because they're always butthurt, and often little smirks.

I've never seen an antifa lunatic look quite the way they do. Antifa are almost always deformed mutants but usually in a different way.

>> No.19500680

>>19500638
>If you got beat its probably because you were a deviant faggot
No I had ginger hair. Something I was born with

>> No.19500693

>>19500627
>idealized version of what is proliferated in porn and film
yeah, that's what caused men to be attracted to young women. porn and film. totally never happened before the last 100 years

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>>19500627
You're correct. The weird RP bullshit in this thread is too much. You see the same thing on /a/ and /co/ with the hyperfascination with lesbians/yuri (I imagine some fat-faced fuck is hyperventilating right now). There's nothing stickier than a creep on a blueboard pretending he's not a pedo by posting like a pedo.
>>19500666
Prime example.

>> No.19500699

>>19500680
Did they beat you out of jealousy or what?
What a dumb reason to bully someone

>> No.19500701

>>19500439
link to yt channel?

>> No.19500708

>>19500675
You can just tell this nigga would be a good Roman Emperor if he lived 2k years ago.

>> No.19500712

>>19500655
It's the precise equivalent of a man writing a post where he says it is bad that women like criminals. There is this sort of moral pretense hanging over it but the real motive is very obviously jealousy

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>>19500694
'murican seethe is the best seethe

>> No.19500736

>>19500276
Is this their excuse for labeling it terrorism? He’s now considered a Hindu terrorist?

>> No.19500767

>>19500693
You're missing the forest for the trees anon. What I'm saying is for a lot of people, they see this ideal of beauty and follow it to the ends of the earth, and if they can't get it they become resentful and violent. Its just hyperreal now BECAUSE of the easy access to porn et al.

>> No.19500812

>>19500646
Not sure how you expect me to know that, not that I for one second believe chinese teens are this degenerate. Maybe you have insider knowledge on China the rest of us don't?

>> No.19500819

>>19500812
Chinese teens are basically Japanese teens. Less nugger worship than Americans but cooming nonstop to femboys and hentai.

>> No.19500840

>>19500819
>less nugger worship
What are you talking about? Japan has an obvious fetish for hip-hop culture.

>> No.19500845

>>19500302
Why are zoomers obsessed with emulating niggers?

>> No.19500848

>>19500840
And so does China. But its still less.

>> No.19500851

good morning sirs!

>> No.19500907

>>19500851
Morning

>> No.19500914

>>19500851
Do the needful, sir! Good morning, sir

>> No.19500921

>>19500519
Not him, can you elaborate on this?

>> No.19500957

>>19500845
>zoomers
It’s not a zoomer thing it’s an American thing. Go watch any American travelling youtube series (david choe hitchiking 3 seasons, literally any channel 5 yt video) and you’ll find uneducated white people of all ages, even republicans in the Deep South, that will force themselves in front of your camera so that they can rap for you

>> No.19500965

>>19500474
You have serious brain damage if you genuinely believe this anon

>> No.19501001

>>19500965
your life outcomes are almost entirely determined by your sats and what undegrad you get into. you can drop out in the first semester, but you wil always be a stanford or yale guy from then on, essentially american aristocratic class. sure, there are always exceptions, it is still a free country with a free market where hard work and risk taking can pay off, but it'll be a very steep uphill battle, while the stanford dropout fails upward their whole life.

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>>19500406
>Your performance in high school determines which university you can get into, or at all
>You must declare your major when applying
>Weak performances in key classes can essentially lock you out of entire fields like STEM
>You must make this decision while under extreme intrasocial and sexual competition
>"Someone convince these kids high school isn't the the be-all, end-all"
Good luck with that.

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>>19500851
>>19500907
>>19500914
>>19500921
>>19500957
>>19500965
>>19501001
>>19501038
Good morning!

>> No.19501716

So how does OP start with Indian literature?

>> No.19501775

>>19501716
I think he should start with the Upanishads so he knows which ladles to use in which ritual sacrifices

>> No.19501986

>>19501775
sacrifices aren’t the focus of the Upanishad dummy

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>>19500276
>or is there any better way?
Yes

1) Read Rene Guenon’s “Man and His Becoming According to the Vedanta”

https://sufipathoflove.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/1925-man-and-his-becoming-according-to-the-vedc3a2nta.pdf

2) Then read Adi Shankara’s commentaries on the Upanishads, starting with the 8 commentaries in the 2-part collection translated by Gambhirananda, then read Shankara’s 2 remaining Upanishad commentaries, and then read his remaining works in any order

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-Vol-1.pdf
https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-vol2.pdf

>> No.19502094

>>19500276
HAVE BECOME!

ffs.

>> No.19502099

>>19501038
There are ways to navigate around this, but making the wrong decision in highschool can easily set you back 10 years, it's fucked up that even the schools themselves perpetuate the idea that what you do in highschool doesn't matter.

>> No.19502469

>>19502099
10 years is a bit too excessive of an estimation, but a few years, 3-4 tops is likely what it comes down to. Which is enough space to figure yourself out and to see where you are, where you want to be and how to get there, mind you, and that's the luxury people who are enrolling in universities directly after finishing high-school can't afford, as well as real-life experience of knowing how the world functions and actually is outside of your theoretical studies and what not. People who adopt this doom and glood, highschool or bust mindset are retards and need to grow up.

>> No.19502473

>>19500276
Sending your kids to public school is the most cucked thing I could imagine. Even some faggot ass private school. Are you all so retarded you can't teach your own offspring? What kind of sorry excuse for a life is that?

>> No.19502665

Are any of you willing to take a life in the event that your life is ruined?

>> No.19502810

>>19500287
LOL

>> No.19502819

>>19500276
Based

>> No.19502918

>>19500845
>Why are zoomers obsessed with emulating niggers?
Niggertalk is a dialect of redneckspoke. If niggers didn't exist you'd have a bunch of rednecks doing niggershit like rap, bad hairstyles, wearing handmedowns, destroying the English language

>> No.19502947

>>19500406
>Something must be done to convince impressionable kids that their life in high school isn't the be-all, end-all.
that something is ending single motherhood and restoring real family dynamics as the norm.

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>>19502810
Fucking finally. Thanks for the (You)