/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19487705]

Space Visitors edition

Previous Thread:>>19481640

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

[Anonymous No.19487740]

>>19487705
haven't read it but thought i'd share.

[Anonymous No.19487748]

>>19487740

[Anonymous No.19487801]

King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.19487833]

>>19487740
>>19487748
Looks interesting. Wouldn’t mind buying them to read.

[Anonymous No.19487903]

>Leviathan Falls has been out for several seconds
>Still can't pirate it
Internet has failed.

[Anonymous No.19487924]

>>19487801
Shitty forced meme.

Simple as.-

[Anonymous No.19487928]

>>19487801
Great meme.

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.19487967]

>>19487903
Shit used to be so easy to pirate, now you can barely find some stuff

[Anonymous No.19488232]

>>19487740
>>19487748
Thanks for posting these! I am personally tired of reading Westernshit and looking forward to see how Nips take the sci-fi/fantasy genre in literary form.

[Anonymous No.19488262]

>>19488232
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.19488402]

>>19487903
>>19487967
Give it a few hours or a day. Jesus.

[Anonymous No.19488456]

>>19487903
Buy it.

[Anonymous No.19488463]

>>19488456
B-b-b-but it's almost 10 bucks even on kindle

[Anonymous No.19488465]

>>19488463
Are you poor?

[Anonymous No.19488472]

>>19488463
4 seconds after posting >>19488402 I found a link myself. I thought you were joking but it has been at least 3 hours since you cried about it.

[Anonymous No.19488529]

Why doesn't reddit love Bakker if he's left wing?

[Anonymous No.19488538]

>>19488472
It just got uploaded to zlib
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.19488619]

russian the unholy consult cover

[Anonymous No.19488646]

>>19487801
Based
>>19487924
It was already demonstrated that Bakker appreciation has been in /lit/ since 2010 and the first installation in /sffg/ is in 2015 so sffg is a mere meme compared to Bakker
>>19488232
Cringe
>>19488262
Based
>>19488529
Because his books are not
>>19488619
I’m thinking based

[Anonymous No.19488687]

Anyone else notice how Bakker's Wikipedia has a very...self-authored flavour to it?

[Anonymous No.19488692]

>>19488619
What the actual fuck? That looks based as fuck. Why are Eastern European and Asiatic covers so much more soulful?

[Anonymous No.19488693]

>>19488687
Utter self-indulgent r*ddit-tier pseudobabble, what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.19488697]

>>19488693
What's pseudo about it?

[Anonymous No.19488703]

>>19488619
That's pretty good, got other covers?

[Anonymous No.19488710]

>>19488692
Are the horns and the Tusk related in any way? I just thought of this for some reason.

[Anonymous No.19488721]

>Nicole, you are the most extraordinary human we have ever seen.
Wait, what? What was richard? Chopped liver?
>Selflessly rescued Nicole
>Single handedly decyphered the interface in the lair, saving everyone's ass
>Lived with the avians before anyone else
>Lived with octospiders before anyone else
>Builds amazing robots
>Warns rama about the nukes
>figures out biots
>figures out rama evironment controls
>learns Avian language
>Rescues Avian/cecil civilisation and becomes some kind of legendary figure/diety
>only human to ever raise alien babies
>Rescues Nicole again
>Rescues all the other characters
>learns octospider language and technology
>Sacrifices himself attempting to stop a war
Yeah nothing extraordinary going on there.

What about Nicole?
>Fucks up constantly
>Makes selfish requests
>Despite only being awake for ~50 years of her life, pisses on her husbands and daughters sacrifice and everyone else by effectively committing suicide. (lol I've had enough, bye!)
>omg Nicole you are so extraordinary

[Anonymous No.19488724]

>>19488697
>what's pseudo about Asymptotic Limits of different Recursive Systems writing of information horizons??
Lmao fuck off you pretentious twat

[Anonymous No.19488725]

>Anime shitter keeps making /sffg/'s for free 24/7.
>Somehow always ends up being another Bakker Thread.
I'm thinking based.

[Anonymous No.19488731]

>>19488710
Obviously not, it's just a tusk of large animal that bronze age tribesmen who had no paper used for writing, how can be related to rear part of crashed starship?

[Anonymous No.19488732]

>>19488724
Why are you projecting your own ignorance onto others?

[Anonymous No.19488742]

>Only 6 Naomi chapters out of 49
The series is saved.

[Anonymous No.19488743]

>>19488731
I don't know, buddy. As far as I remember, both of them had some strange scriptures inscribed into them. It was just a random thought, though. It's nonetheless curious and interesting to speculate about the origins of both religions.

[Anonymous No.19488747]

>>19487740
>>19487748
Interesting to say the least. I’ve been reading science fiction and fantasy novels written by Latin American authors, so I want to see how Asians write sffg.

[Anonymous No.19488748]

>>19488724
>Doesn't understand something
>"Lmao fuck off you pretentions twat"
Retard.

[Anonymous No.19488752]

>>19488743
It is know that Inchoroi tried to groom humans, and they might have used something phallic as a core element of religion intended for them just for the sake of it, but it's more likely that Scylvendi were the only tribe groomed by them, hence they worship Mog.

[Anonymous No.19488758]

>>19488742
I find even the series dull as fuck (still watching because a dearth of sci-fi is reality), are the books any better?

[Anonymous No.19488761]

>>19487903
Yes you can

[Anonymous No.19488764]

>>19488724
I remember when you were absolutely BTFO by Bakker himself.

That was a good thread.

[Anonymous No.19488765]

>>19488758
The series is a fairly good adaptation, but it shat the bed with the jump to Amazon, and it won't adapt the third trilogy.
You can always try to pick up the first book and see if you like it. Just don't expect incredible prose, it mostly shines in the worldbuilding.

[Anonymous No.19488790]

>>19488646
>Le Anime is cringe
Fuck off faggot.

[Anonymous No.19488795]

>>19487740
>>19487748
I can’t find a pdf of these. Would you happen to have some, Anon?

[Anonymous No.19488805]

>>19488795
Why would you need a pdf when it’s on Amazon?

[Anonymous No.19488807]

>Watches anime
>Calling others faggots

[Anonymous No.19488822]

>>19488790
it is though, and anime trannies should be shot

[Anonymous No.19488835]

>>19488721
The Clarke/Asimov era of science fiction was a complete clusterfuck and it was all shit.

[Anonymous No.19488838]

>>19487903
>Ordered Aspect-Emperor two weeks ago.
>First book still hasn't arrived

The supply chain has failed me.

[Anonymous No.19488878]

>>19488764
I enjoy that this is still posted here.

[Anonymous No.19488885]

>>19488725
This.

[Anonymous No.19488995]

Is mark lawrence good

[Anonymous No.19489003]

>>19488995
Low effort post.

[Anonymous No.19489007]

>>19489003
I am looking for low effort replies

[Anonymous No.19489012]

>>19489007
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19489027]

>>19488995
his thorns trilogy was perfectly fine, the only people who really hate it are femcels

[Anonymous No.19489058]

>>19489027
I might pick up the set for €15 then. Have you read the grey sister trilogy? Is it worth picking up as well?

[Anonymous No.19489070]

>>19489058
I haven't read it :/.

[Anonymous No.19489272]

Does The Expanse count as a good adaptation?

[Anonymous No.19489389]

>>19488805
I’m a poorfag. Please send pdfs, my good sir.

[Anonymous No.19489412]

>>19488807
>>19488822
>Complains about Anime
>IN A WEBSITE CALLED “4CHAN”

Cope and Seethe harder.

[Anonymous No.19489420]

Has anyone read this?

[Anonymous No.19489469]

>>19489412
>phoneposter
rope

[Anonymous No.19489570]

>>19489420
You read it and tell us

[Anonymous No.19489622]

>>19488732
>>19488748
Explain away then

[Anonymous No.19489630]

>>19488764
This is still pretentious shit, anon is right. And you just come across as a smug pretentious larper yourself. Unless Bakker is that sad he crouches on /lit/ waiting for any criticism of his unnecessarily bloated writing.

[Anonymous No.19489643]

>>19489630
>makes up a bunch of words
>acts smug when people don't understand his made up words
The phrase is "being high on your own fumes" anon. Seems Bakkerfags are a good example of this. But then again you poor peasant don't even know what an Asymptotic Recursive System is!

[Anonymous No.19489731]

>>19489622
Explain what, retard?

[Anonymous No.19489765]

>>19489622
Unironically not my problem. Literally every single nomenclature you're having an issue with is well documented on multiple online sources.

[Anonymous No.19489792]

>>19489630
You can't even write proper English.

[Anonymous No.19489798]

>>19489643
There were no made-up words. It was clear to most any reader what was intended by what was said, many said as much at the time. To argue that the words being used are 'too complicated' is possibly valid critique but really not an argument of substance in regards to the topic. A mind unable to unwrap the meaning of phrases of simple chained-together words is unnecessary for that conversation due to their incapability of intellect, their lack of grounding in the subject, or a combination of the two. Put simply, you either know the concepts, or are able to work your way to them from context and linguistic aptitude. If you don't satisfy either of those, why should anyone care what you have to say on the matter?

[Anonymous No.19489806]

>>19489622
It makes sense in the context of his paper. You're quoting someone else's write up of a journal paper from the middle. Of course to people not familiar with the field it doesn't make sense.

The paper is fine: https://www.gwern.net/docs/philosophy/mind/2012-bakker.pdf

The problem isn't that the paper is pretentious, it's a solid write up, it's that the "theory" isn't a well developed theory, but those are few and far between anyhow.

[Anonymous No.19489810]

>>19489622
We accept your surrender.

[Anonymous No.19489817]

Has anybody here read the Marid Audran series beyond When Gravity Fails, and if so, why the fuck did you do it?

[Anonymous No.19490023]

I spent 150 bucks getting the LOTR super ultra mega deluxe special edition with illustrations by Tolkien (+ over 20lbs of pussy and ass)[featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series]{and Knuckles} from Abebooks. But my mommy wants something to wrap for me for Christmas so I have to wait a month to read it. Did I make a good investment or am I a huge idiot?

>>19488835
dangerously based opinion

[Anonymous No.19490111]

>>19490023
>good investment
no

[Anonymous No.19490328]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.19490351]

>>19490023
For the second time, not one cares.

[Anonymous No.19490365]

>>19490328
Probably a hell of a lot of uninspired nothing, but definitely at least some cuckoldry.

[Anonymous No.19490377]

Any good fantasy novels where the protagonist is an orc, goblins or some kind of beastmen horde raping Humans or Elves?

[Anonymous No.19490416]

>>19490365
the cuckoldry doesn't occur until book 2

>>19490328
The first part suckers you in but then the entire plot goes off the rails around page 100 and it never recovers in the other 2400 pages of the series. It is an intensely unsatisfying journey that drags on way too long with its litany of miseries. It also features one of the worst examples of what I call "Weyland-Yutani syndrome" that I've ever read, and it pervades the entire work as bad, or even worse, than Game of Thrones.

[Anonymous No.19490432]

>>19490377

[Anonymous No.19490453]

>>19490328
It's next on my reading list. Hoping for a comfy read

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19490468]

>>19490416
>Weyland-Yutani syndrome
Making up your own terms and presenting them without any context is rather silly.

[Anonymous No.19490535]

>>19490453
the comfiness stops after the aforementioned first 100 pages

>>19490468
The tendency of antagonists in poorly written stories to repeatedly and steadfastly pursue myopically suicidal courses of action that have no conceivable benefit for anyone, least of all themselves, with the implicit or explicit end-result of the destruction of their livelihoods/their lives/everyone's lives/multicellular life as we know it/reality and existence itself. I call it "Weyland-Yutani syndrome" because the eponymous corporation in the Aliens franchise (films, games, books, and comics) continually attempts harvesting the xenomorphs for some vague unstated goal that hypothetically would increase their profits but which has in fact resulted in the destruction of the entire universe multiple times in repeatedly reset continuities.

The villains in Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn (King Elias, Pryrates, Ineluki, Ingen Jegger, Utuk'ku) have a plan that hinges on, effectively, destroying the world and everything in it including themselves, which nobody is willing or able to do anything about, and which is resolved at the end of the series (literally in the last 10 pages) through an asinine deus ex machina where they basically self-destruct, which is quite literally the only way their plans could be averted because the antagonists were all effectively gods at that point.
None of this is ever explained.

[Anonymous No.19490609]

What's wrong with Cuckoldery in books?

[Anonymous No.19490624]

>>19490609
It's for cucks

[Anonymous No.19490631]

>>19490624
Why can't it be for BVLLS?

[Anonymous No.19490670]

>>19490609
It's both extremely mainstream and not my feitsh, so I end up totally flaccid when reading tons of books.

[Anonymous No.19490674]

>>19488721
yes but she was a black female so..... you should have stopped after the 1st book

[Anonymous No.19490702]

>>19490328
read all 3, cant remember a single thing
>>19490365
>a lot of uninspired nothing
this, it just meanders and then ends
>>19490453
The Belgariad is max comfy, so is wheel of time

[Anonymous No.19490711]

>>19490624
Are you one of those weak willed brainlets that can't entertain an idea you might not agree or like without it becoming something you agree and like? You know, like a cuck?

[Anonymous No.19490731]

>>19490702
>comfy
Ok, retard. It's becoming increasingly hard to believe some of you actually read at all when your vocabularies are not only so stunted, but you regularly fail to say anything of substance whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.19490735]

>>19490453
I haven't read Wheel of Time but I can affirm >>19490702 's claim that David Eddings books are maximum comfy. Belgariad/Malloreon are peak, Elenium and Tamuli are solid, but Tamuli is sort of weak in the last book.

[Anonymous No.19490742]

>>19490735
The Wheel of Time is shit. And I'm not even trying to sound contrarian.

[Anonymous No.19490745]

>>19490731
>doesn't understand the concept of "comfort"
>has the audacity to call other people retarded

[Anonymous No.19490746]

>>19490731
he was looking for a comfy read, why are you so butthurt, someone fuck your crush?

[Anonymous No.19490751]

>>19490742
people probably think your favourite book is shit too

[Anonymous No.19490762]

>>19490751
Joke's on you, I don't have a favorite book. But it's hilarious to know that you're upset about the fact that your favorite one is objectively shit.

[Anonymous No.19490772]

>>19490742
I never thought I would say this, but Brando Sando taking over the series was probably the best thing that happened to it.

[Anonymous No.19490786]

Recommend me books that are under 200 pages pls

[Anonymous No.19490792]

>>19490772
Plus he has taken a huge step forward for down syndrome visibility

[Anonymous No.19490794]

>>19490786
Why?

[Anonymous No.19490800]

>>19490792
Brandon > Jordan.

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.19490846]

>>19490786
the shortest fantasy/scifi books I have in my collection are The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe (189p), Three Hearts and Three Lions (220p), and Frozen Hell (129p)

[Anonymous No.19490893]

>>19490800
Not that hard desu.

[Anonymous No.19490994]

>>19490786
Do you mean 200,000 pages ?

[Anonymous No.19491006]

>>19487705
>December Book Club
Fantasy: Royal Assassin (Farseer 2) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25300956-royal-assassin
Science Fiction: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14185.The_Three_Stigmata_of_Palmer_Eldritch
https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

[Anonymous No.19491017]

>>19490994
Pretty sure those do not exist, in the context of what we're speaking, that is.

[Anonymous No.19491019]

>>19490772
I agree, actually. It was dirty work, but he did it justice.

It was like putting somebody's dog down or something.

[Anonymous No.19491054]

>>19490762
>"Liking things is cringe"

Oh, you edgy kids.

[Anonymous No.19491070]

>>19491054
Nice projection.

[Anonymous No.19491150]

[Anonymous No.19491166]

Wheel of time show got me into buying a kindle to read the books. Any other books like it? Semi-modern (medieval?) fantasy with factions with factions within them and all looking for the One/hero type stuff.

[Anonymous No.19491172]

>>19491166
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19491193]

>>19487740
>japanese sci fi

I hope I won't drown in a sea of nouns like with jrpgs.

[Anonymous No.19491195]

>>19490702
>>19490735
Sounds interesting. Going on my reading list for sure

[Anonymous No.19491224]

>>19490535
i read it long ago but yeah i do remember the ending was kinda shit. however i will say the trip was worth it, i remember some set pieces very fondly and it was very comfy to ride along the characters and so on. but i want to read it again because maybe my opinion will be different now

[Anonymous No.19491229]

>>19490328
Awful doorstoppers. I haven't read the last book, because while the worldbuilding is alright (just pay no mind to the Jesus/Odin worshippers, ok), the plot taking fucking ages to get anywhere is not.

>>19490735
Eddings' oeuvre is the true wheel of time because he kept writing the same book or two over and over again

[Anonymous No.19491257]

speaking of japanese sci fi, has anyone seen Junk Head (2013)? it was a short film on youtube, they took it down although i have the torrent. it's fantastic, a stop motion film made by a guy in his basement, every set piece is hand crafted and it looks gorgeous. the story is also really cool, set in a future where humans don't die but can't reproduce so the race degenerated via cloning and so on

[Anonymous No.19491286]

>>19491150
>Did you just heckin say a woman has female reproductive organs?! Absolutely problematic...

[Anonymous No.19491304]

>>19491150
So what does problematic wizarding look like

[Anonymous No.19491310]

>>19491304
Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.19491322]

>>19491310
Isn't Dumbledore gay?

[Anonymous No.19491330]

>>19491322
He should've been trans. Gay isn't good enough.

[Anonymous No.19491336]

>>19491150
It's funny that Sanderson is considered unproblematic, because I genuinely think that he doesn't do it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.19491353]

>>19491150
why is earthsea's book so thick? iirc it has like 150 pages at most

[Anonymous No.19491368]

>>19491150
I have read Sanderson, but all the rest is going into my no-read list.

Are there any other examples?

[Anonymous No.19491376]

>>19491150
Someone should put multiple copies of the Darkness that Comes Before on that pile.

[Anonymous No.19491382]

>>19491376
>We want LGTB representation!
>Noo not like that!
Bakker is truly transcendant

[Anonymous No.19491394]

>>19491382
We've had gay posters here praise Bakker. The moment you say that Cnäiur isn't gay, they will show themselves.

[Anonymous No.19491403]

is bakker gay?

[Anonymous No.19491412]

>>19491304
looks like Nazism

[Anonymous No.19491482]

>>19491403
Men know what men like.

[Anonymous No.19491525]

>>19491224
I read it earlier this year, around june or july, and there were only two worthwhile setpieces in the series
1. the end of the first book where Simon accidentally slays the dragon at the Odinstree frozen waterfall
2. the end of the second book where Simon is in the Sithi forest tent-city before it's destroyed by the snowniggers
the rest of the trip fucking sucks ass

[Anonymous No.19491530]

>>19491482
he just... he sets my gaydar off.

[Anonymous No.19491536]

>>19491525
>2. the end of the second book where Simon is in the Sithi forest tent-city before it's destroyed by the snowniggers
This and the horsepeople shenanigans that happen simultaneously (IIRC, been a looong time since I last read the book) were pretty kino

[Anonymous No.19491544]

>>19491536
they absolutely are not, the Thrithings scenes were fucking dogshit, huge waste of time, you could have excised that entire storyline from the book and lost nothing

[Anonymous No.19491569]

>>19491544
I just liked the atmosphere, I agree that whatever happened there was absolutely inconsequential

[Anonymous No.19491711]

Are there any Fantasy (could be science fiction too) books with a sense of exploration and mystery similar to Made in Abyss?
I'd like, however, something that revolves around exploration and discovering of weird environments and strange stuff.

[Anonymous No.19491728]

>>19491711
If you like exoteric stuff, then pic related might be for you.

[Anonymous No.19491743]

>>19491728
Bold of you to assume I haven't read and re-read BotNS 6+ times

[Anonymous No.19491748]

>>19491743
There are people posting ITT 24/7 that haven't.

[Anonymous No.19491753]

anyone got this today?

fuck this captcha shit

[Anonymous No.19491806]

>>19491748
Just as a note, the part in Sword of the Lictor where Sev leaves Thrax, up to the point where he reaches lake Diuturna, is perhaps one of the best parts I've read in any book, ever. Especially the strangeness that is Typhon and that whole sequence of events.
I want more of that, which is why I enjoy Made in Abyss so much. Just traveling and uncovering secrets and meeting weird and strange characters, I enjoy that so much. Political fantasy with houses and wars and stuff is so nasty.

Also somewhat related, the parts in Aspect emperor with Achamian traveling the wilderness with his gang of scalpers, that was the best part in the whole Second Apocalypse books.

[Anonymous No.19491843]

>>19491806
>Also somewhat related, the parts in Aspect emperor with Achamian traveling the wilderness with his gang of scalpers, that was the best part in the whole Second Apocalypse books.
Not shitting on you or anything, but this is mildly interesting. Mostly because I think that those were the worse parts of the series, perhaps because the time it took them to get to the Ordeal. Not that I could tell you what my favorite part was either, the entire series is filled with memorable moments. Too many to recount.

[Anonymous No.19491884]

>>19488692
>Why are Eastern European and Asiatic covers so much more soulful?
I think we all know the answer to this question...

[Anonymous No.19491895]

>>19488693
Reads like it was ripped from an interview or something, given the chronological nature and quotes from Bakker himself.

[Anonymous No.19491917]

>>19491304
>he asked calmly

[Anonymous No.19491972]

Holy shit the quality of the webfiction getting shat out is getting lower and lower. WHERE THE FUCK do i get my fix now? RR is not even usable now, webfictionguide has nothing good anymore, wildbow and the other original authors are writing shit. God fucking damn.

[Anonymous No.19492031]

>>19488742
gonna wait for the torrent

[Anonymous No.19492068]

Might not be the best place to ask this, but I just bought a Complete Stories of Edgar Allan Poe. Don't want to dedicate myself to reading all of them yet, so what would you say are the top ten?

[Anonymous No.19492123]

>>19492068
The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar

[Anonymous No.19492130]

>group of friends are inducted into the supernatural world
>they eventually go on their own paths that clash later on and fight
always kino

[Anonymous No.19492191]

>>19491972
Chinese web novels are the future
Western webnovel quality is completely abysmal and no one treats it properly(as a job)

[Anonymous No.19492199]

>>19491166
Need (you)s

[Anonymous No.19492222]

>>19491711
>>19491743
There's not really a replacement for Wolfe within the fantasy genre, but if you haven't read his other stuff, Wizard Knight is very much along the same lines in terms of exploration and discovery being the fun part.

Trying and failing to think of any other modern examples is rekindling my drive to write another book.

[Anonymous No.19492301]

>>19491972
>>19492191
Anyone who can write is publishing with an audio book

[Anonymous No.19492313]

>>19491150
Still haven't read Rhythm of War.

[Anonymous No.19492415]

>>19491753
got my copy earlier today. It's an emotional rollercoaster so far. the ayy lmao children are intriguing and the BFE is an endearing name

[Anonymous No.19492439]

>>19492222
checked and what is your first book

[Anonymous No.19492458]

>>19491530
Just admit you're attracted to him, it's okay

[Anonymous No.19492466]

Anyone got an audiobook recc? Is far prefer to read but my new job location for the next few weeks is an hour commute each way.

[Anonymous No.19492474]

>>19491070
>Boasts that they don't have a favorite
>Makes fun of those who do

Calling you out on your shit is not projection.

[Anonymous No.19492480]

>>19492439
Technically my first book was some ripoff I wrote in high school. My first real attempt was a fantasy story involving a dragon. It was almost good.

[Anonymous No.19492502]

reading "All systems red" rn.
I don't know if I like this. I was reading it because it was short, but it has some very cringe lines...
I think it's because it was written by a woman. You can tell, it's all very soft, I can't really explain it.
Any thoughts?
The crazy shit is that it's on the best 21st century science fiction goodreads list WTF

I don't know, maybe I'm misogynistic kek

[Anonymous No.19492534]

>>19491394
He gay doe

[Anonymous No.19492705]

>>19491806
Vurt has a lot of weird exploration. It's a strange book. I personally really liked it.

The whole slog part of SA I didn't like so much. It needed editing, it felt like a slog by the end.

[Anonymous No.19493112]

Why is Flintlock Fantasy all woke garbage

[Anonymous No.19493123]

>>19493112
Because it's being written and published in the current year. That's it. Anything could be good, if not for the year.

[Anonymous No.19493134]

>>19491753
just finished binging this
what did i think about it?

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19493285]

>>19489420
No one in the GR group has shelved it as read.
It's been asked about in the thread at least 3 times prior to you asking. They got two replies. Both were from me. It only has 75 ratings on GR. So, more likely than not, no one has.
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%22prince%27s+errand%22

>>19487967
Maybe your expectations increased and your tastes changed.

>>19488758
It's not really all that bad. There are a lot, it's more a matter of whether you believe they're worthwhile to watch. Well, depending on the specifics of what you want anyway.

>>19488795
>pdf
No.

>>19489817
No one in the group has noted they've done so, though a few read the first book and weren't that pleased with it.

>>19490328
There's a few series that are posted often enough, though obviously not anywhere near as much as the primary one, that I have to wonder if there are several different ongoing book promotions. The question, how many different people are doing it. The idea that one extremely dedicated anon is trying to convince everyone to read his overall preferences is amusing, and much else.

>>19490786
Why not just say recommend you novellas? I could list a few that are, but they'd just be shots in the dark.

>>19491711
Similar to Made in Abyss? Nothing that comes to mind. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist though. That sort of scenario seems to be specific to Japanese media for whatever reasons. Many others are as well. A lot of Western scenarios wouldn't be in Japanese either. Maybe you could find something similar in webfiction or self-published.

>>19491972
That or after reading so much of it you've become habituated to it and all its novelty has worn off. Now none of it works for you. They may not be any worse, your standards may just have risen against your will.

>>19493112
Probably because it's all relatively recent and you'd think the same about almost anything relatively recently traditionally published.

[Anonymous No.19493326]

>>19489027
Found it to be too morbid. I didn't like anyone and couldn't bring myself to care if they all dropped dead.

[Anonymous No.19493403]

Kino

[Anonymous No.19493470]

>>19493403
no one asked
>>19493285
no one asked
>>19493134
dont care
>>19493123
based
>>19493112
why do you even need to ask
>>19492705
Probably it was by design: By making the Slog of Slogs a slog to read, the reader also experiences the burdens of Akka.
>>19492534
In a way
>>19492502
Based
>>19492480
no one asked
>>19492466
The Darkness That Comes Before
>>19492458
Im terribly moved by the books
>>19492313
and you should never
>>19492301
Anyone who can write is traditionally publishing (few exceptions to the rule, but there are so few exceptions its counted with 5 fingers)
>>19492191
machine translation of shit books is not the future, its your present, past, and probably the future
>>19492130
group-isekai? no thanks. Also thats Narnia
>>19492068
Based
>>19491972
Read traditionally published good books like The Darkness That Comes Beofre
>>19491884
Doesnt tell anything about their writing, just that their publishers choose to go for covers that convey more about the book than modern western covers
>>19491843
But the Slog was the main plot
>>19491743
Based in a weird way
>>19491711
no
>>19491382
And still some people claim he is a leftist feminist author. Maybe he is, doesnt show in the books

[Anonymous No.19493485]

>>19493470 Hey anon, I fixed your post.

>>19493403 no one asked
>>19493285 no one asked
>>19493134 dont care
>>19493123 based
>>19493112 why do you even need to ask
>>19492705 Probably it was by design: By making the Slog of Slogs a slog to read, the reader also experiences the burdens of Akka.
>>19492534 In a way
>>19492502 Based
>>19492480 no one asked
>>19492466 The Darkness That Comes Before
>>19492458 Im terribly moved by the books
>>19492313 and you should never
>>19492301 Anyone who can write is traditionally publishing (few exceptions to the rule, but there are so few exceptions its counted with 5 fingers)
>>19492191 machine translation of shit books is not the future, its your present, past, and probably the future
>>19492130 group-isekai? no thanks. Also thats Narnia
>>19492068 Based
>>19491972 Read traditionally published good books like The Darkness That Comes Beofre
>>19491884 Doesnt tell anything about their writing, just that their publishers choose to go for covers that convey more about the book than modern western covers
>>19491843 But the Slog was the main plot
>>19491743 Based in a weird way
>>19491711 no
>>19491382 And still some people claim he is a leftist feminist author. Maybe he is, doesnt show in the books

[Anonymous No.19493489]

>>19493485
I prefer the original way, harder to read and follow

[Anonymous No.19493499]

>>19493403
I think Wintersteel is better than Ghostwater.

[Anonymous No.19493510]

this is a strange fucking book
it feels a little like too much time is given to completely irrelevant shite like assasination plots or rambling monologues and not enough to how exactly a rocket powerful enough to deorbit a moon was hidden
I do like how much every character fucks up and how badly they suffer for it, except for the gaia types that leave to live in magical zero-emission communes because of course

[Anonymous No.19493512]

>>19493470
>>19493485

These posts are bad and you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.19493543]

>>19493512
No one asked

[Anonymous No.19493550]

>>19490742
That's not being contrarian, at least here on /sffg/ (or in the online fantasy community in general, really).

[Anonymous No.19493553]

>>19491711
The Scar by China Mieville is kinda the naval version of that

[Anonymous No.19493577]

>>19493510
I was going to start reading this today, but I decided to put it off for a while longer yet a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.19493586]

>>19491711

Read Jack Vance, Dying Earth especially is all about exploring an ancient world collapsing under the weight of all the civilizations that rose and fell over aeons

[Anonymous No.19493625]

>>19490742
The Waste of Time is God awfully boring and predictable. O bad Tolkien copy-cat.

[Anonymous No.19493631]

>>19492031
It's on zlib

[Anonymous No.19493637]

>>19492313
It's worse than Oathbringer, which I thought would be impossible to beat.

[Anonymous No.19493648]

>>19493586
If he's read botns 6 times, it would be weird if he hadn't. I don't think Dying Earth is nearly as fun, though. The discovery doesn't feel as meaningful to me.

[Anonymous No.19493652]

>>19493470
>>>19492480 #
>no one asked

>>19492439

The gimmick's only funny if it works

[Anonymous No.19493655]

Read Blindsight.

[Anonymous No.19493671]

>>19493655
I only have 5 books to read before it

[Anonymous No.19493716]

>>19491257
any chance of a torrent link my guy? the trailer is fantastic

[Anonymous No.19493766]

>>19488995
Its an edgy shit-tier book with a YA prose.
Dont believe this faggot >>19489027

[Anonymous No.19493784]

>>19490328
Excellent prose and world-building, I honestly liked its slow pace.

[Anonymous No.19493789]

>>19493716
NTA but here's the full thing
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43qetf

[Anonymous No.19493845]

>>19493648

Vance's scifi is essentially just a set dressing for his characters to talk mad shit to each other, so there is that. His fantasy has more of the tragic faerie to it that adds mystery that I do think resonates deeper.

[Anonymous No.19493847]

Huangfu Liejun’s expression had also grown dim. He sighed and said. “The war of the Divine Realm six quadrillion years ago was truly too fierce and cruel…. That battle could be considered as being the largest war since the formation of the Divine Realm. In that battle, over ten Godkings fell. As for High Level Heavenly Deities, the number of them that perished was innumerable.”

Qin Yu was overwhelmed with shock.

Over ten Godkings fell? Countless High Level Heavenly Deities died?

Gu Zhuang smiled bitterly and said. “Brother Qin Yu, let me tell you. The Three Great Palaces, Misty Mystic Palace, Black Wind Palace and the Heaven Desolate Palace, all three of them were named after their first Palace Master. In that battle… the first Palace Masters of the Misty Mystic Palace, Black Wind Palace and Heaven Desolate Palace all fell. I am someone who succeeded the Black Wind Palace’s Palace Master in the course of the battle.”

[TL: Misty Mystic Lan Xuan. Black Wind Hei Feng. Heaven Desolate Tian Huang. Liejun Great Split/Rend.]

“I am the same.” Ji Lusheng sighed and said. “That battle was truly too cruel and fiery. The battle spread through the entire Heaven and Earth… Practically all of the Godkings had shown themselves. Even Exalted Celestials had joined the battle in the shadows!”

Qin Yu’s heart shook with shock.

Exactly what sort of war happened six quadrillion years ago?

Qin Yu have once heard about the Gold Punishment Lord Xing Yuan’s father-in-law mentioning this battle in Yuchi City. That High Level Deity had only mentioned that the Divine Realm would have a war every six billion years.

However, it appears now that the war of every six billion years was merely a small battle.

That battle from six quadrillion years ago was the true war of the Divine Realm.

[Anonymous No.19494031]

>>19493510
I haven't actually finished Red Mars because I kept going "dude, where's my prose?". The minutiae of Mars colonization are very cool, but the character drama is impossible to care about because the characters are so thin.
So I started reading Green Mars instead, and the characters are ever so slightly better, but a novel set 80 years in our future having only 1900s historical references makes me cringe

[Anonymous No.19494107]

>>19493847
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.19494263]

>>19493655
Trash opinion

[Anonymous No.19494270]

>>19491353
Big fonts for readability?

[Anonymous No.19494273]

>>19491166
>Any other books like it? Semi-modern (medieval?) fantasy with factions with factions within them and all looking for the One/hero type stuff.
Motherfucker, that's 99% of the shit out there.

[Anonymous No.19494279]

>>19492480
Was there some dragon smut of any kind?

[Anonymous No.19494312]

>>19492502
I almost dropped the series when he adopted the ethnically and gender-diverse team of scientists. I mostly read it as a palette cleanser.

>on the best 21st century science fiction
It's popcorn and appeals to the Netflix binging Millenials and the boomers who are trying to stay hip.

[Anonymous No.19494340]

>>19493847
Fucking hell, it also reads like a Japanese light novel. Peak 6th grader prose.

[Anonymous No.19494428]

>>19493847
Based

[Anonymous No.19494525]

I don't get it, how are the Dunyain able to even BTFO the inchoroi? How is 2000 years of selective breeding able to outmatch aliens with interplanetary travel who are able to alter their own bodies at will? Especially when their progenitors are said to have mastered technology to an unfathomable extent.

[Anonymous No.19494553]

>>19494525
They didn't btfo, they likely made it known that they can be reasoned with while they were interrogated, said that they will join the Consult because they understand its goal, and rest is history. At some point they were taught sorcery (which all dunyain seem to be capable of due to how they refined their mental state), and since even most powerful worldborn mages are drooling impotent retards next to dunyain with gnosis, it was over.

[Anonymous No.19494602]

>>19494525
Neither you, nor anyone, know what truly are or where they came from.

[Anonymous No.19494608]

>>19494525
Have you even read all the books?

[Anonymous No.19494609]

>>19494263
Not the other poster, but I think I would've enjoyed it if Vampires hadn't been slipped in.

[Anonymous No.19494612]

>>19494608
I'm in the Unholy Consult, Aurang got sharted on and Aurax is completely submissive to the mutilated Dunyain in the ark.

[Anonymous No.19494669]

>>19494612
>>19494525
The consult literally brought the Dunyain to the brink of extinction. How doesn't that count?

[Anonymous No.19494689]

>>19490786
The Dragon Masters

[Anonymous No.19494693]

>>19494669
Yeah, because of sorcery, but the moment they talked to the Dunyain they were taken over like everybody else who does so. My point is, how are the Dunyain so intellectually advanced that they can defeat the ayys with a speech check? Shouldn't the inchoroi also have superior intellect given their origins?

[Anonymous No.19494710]

>>19494693
The Inchoroi are war machines designed for a single purpose. They are not agents of free will Take this with a grain of salt as I don't want to delve into philosophy right now.. It was also stated that a lot was lost during the Arkfall, or even before that as far as we can tell. And like someone already said, we do not know what the Dunyain are, or where they came from.

[Anonymous No.19494716]

>>19492502
the first book is pretty good, but considering how short it is not really worth the price.

[Anonymous No.19494719]

>>19494693
>Shouldn't the inchoroi also have superior intellect given their origins?
Inchoroi are bioweapon with limited specialization (in rape), they don't even understand how their spacecraft work, and likely were supposed to operate under command of its AI. Smartest inchoroi that left after crash barely managed to find one gun in wreck, and their bioengineering was likely done by remaining automated systems in ship. Real question is why didn't creators of inchoroi discovered Daimotic sorcery (that fags who can't even smelt steel manged to discover) and engineered specialized galaxy brain sorcerer species that will run a train on gods' asses,

[Anonymous No.19494721]

>>19487801
Based.

Simple as.

[martineconnor No.19494727]

>>19494609
the vampire did defo slip in. easter shis uptown yops go for a hop, no stoping them.

[Anonymous No.19494741]

>>19494710
>we do not know what the Dunyain are, or where they came from
Doesn't Celmomas tell Seswatha that he created Ishuäl as a place for his line to outlive him, and that he put "seeds" inside it?

[Anonymous No.19494748]

>>19494741
I don't recall that, but even if you entertained the idea that the Dunyain were the seeds, that would be incorrect since they clearly came long after the shit hit the fan.

[Anonymous No.19494756]

>>19494741
Pretty sure that the "seed" is his bastard family.

[Anonymous No.19494758]

>>19494748
>I don't recall that
It's in the dream in which Achamian learns that the map is in the coffers.
>they clearly came long after the shit hit the fan
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.19494762]

>>19494741
Dunyain has nothing to do with that, they were just waded into most forsaken corner of the world while running away from apocalypse and stumbled into perfectly suitable fortress. At least this is what we know so far.

[Anonymous No.19494766]

>>19494758
I remember the dream, just no mentions of any 0 "seeds". If you recall correctly, the Dunyain found Ishuäl long after the Anarisumbor's bastard.

[Anonymous No.19494774]

Why do trannys hate Bakker?

[Anonymous No.19494779]

>>19494719
The only explanation I can think of for Tekne is that the Lovers just did not have ANY ability to use sorcery for whatever reason. It's entirely possible this is related to the 144 thousand human limit, as the ONLY thing that could possibly be justified to make the population of earth specifically important to the Outside over everywhere else in the universe is sorcery. Isn't it said that the Nonmen ALSO came to earth from space, or were created on earth by a space faring race, and only afterwards developed sorcery?
And the only two explanations I have for Earth being special itself are either Outside predestination time paradox(the earth is special because it is), or that it's not just some random planet at all and was made, either by the gods, the solitary god, some as yet unknown race's even more advanced tekne, or perhaps is just the nexus for the universe.
I may be remembering wrong, but do we have any evidence for oblivion on planets other than earth? The nonmen seem very knowledgable about it, like it's blatantly obvious. And yet somehow the lovers couldn't replicate the same thing with tekne? If it's just a matter of mass or gravitational fields, I'd think it would be a simple matter for them. And if it's NOT that simple, then that's more evidence that Earth itself is important.

[Anonymous No.19494780]

>>19494774
He made an inappropriate tweet that got him banned.

[Anonymous No.19494792]

>>19494779
It was abundantly clear that the Inchoroi destroyed multiple other worlds. I do not know what caused the Arkfall to be so violent and destructive, but the main reason why they couldn't conquer the planet was due to its inhabitants sorcerous powers, which I believe they didn't find in any other planet.

[Anonymous No.19494796]

>>19494762
>>19494758
>>19494748
>>19494741
Isn't it revealed that all the Dunyain have Nonmen ancestry? I think the current, not necessarily entirely truthful, explanation is that they're just another of the Nonmen's selectively bred slave races, created for some unknown purpose.

[Anonymous No.19494797]

>>19494779
>Isn't it said that the Nonmen ALSO came to earth from space, or were created on earth by a space faring race, and only afterwards developed sorcery?
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.19494799]

>>19494796
That's pure speculation. And I'm not dismissing it as a possibility, but there is no proof of that in the books.

[Anonymous No.19494802]

>>19494796
>all the Dunyain have Nonmen ancestry
The Anasurimbors have Nonman ancenstry so they could have spread it to all of them after all the generations of breeding.

[Anonymous No.19494804]

>>19494797
There's something about the origin of the entire race being one single being who came to earth to reach oblivion, and the entire nonman race is clones/bioengineered servants manufactured from his own severed arm.

[Anonymous No.19494812]

>>19494804
Where exactly it is? Definitely not in main books but might be in glossary like that thing about the heads which seems pretty important for the story.

[Anonymous No.19494823]

>>19494774
The only explanation I can think of for BakkerHate is that the Trannys just did not have ANY ability to use logic for whatever reason. It's entirely possible this is related to the 144 twitter character limit, as the ONLY thing that could possibly be justified to make the internet SFFG community specifically important to the LGBT community over everywhere else in the internet is bullshittery. Isn't it said that the transmen ALSO came to earth from space, or were created on earth by a space faring race, and only afterwards developed sorcery?
And the only two explanations I have for Sanderson being special itself are either LGBT predestination time paradox(Sanderson is special because he is), or that it's not just some random book at all and was made, either by some editors, a solitary editor, some as yet unknown author's even more advanced creative lobe, or perhaps is just the nexus for the trannyverse.
I may be remembering wrong, but do we have any evidence for hatred books other than PON? The transmen seem very knowledgable about it, like it's blatantly obvious. And yet somehow the trannys couldn't replicate the same thing on twitter? If it's just a matter of gay or cuck fetishes, I'd think it would be a simple matter for them. And if it's NOT that simple, then that's more evidence that bakker himself is important.

[Anonymous No.19494826]

>>19494792
Can the gods even see outside earth? And if so, can they see Tekne like any other "normal" matter, or does it blind them like sorcery?
Assuming the gods can only see around earth, and that tekne is "non-sorcerous", it would be incredibly simple for them to disable or destroy the Inchoroi ship.

[Anonymous No.19494846]

>>19494779
>>19494792
>Aptitude to sorcery is biological trait (one in many thousand are Few among worldborn, but every dunyain we meet so far can use sorcery)
>Inchoroi are artificial organisms whose brains were carefully designed to work in exact way
>Aurang shown using sorcery
If they have ability to use sorcery, it was intended for them by their designers, hence latter knew about what it is. Although it might be possible that they modified their own brains to do it after crash, but it's less likely.

[Anonymous No.19494855]

>>19494846
>During the Cûno-Inchoroi Wars, the steadily diminishing Inchoroi performed genetic experiments on themselves. Aurang and his brother Aurax, along with four others, were the only survivors of a genetic rewrite to give the Inchoroi the genetically-wired ability to perform sorcery. Eventually, the Nonmen won the war and exterminated the last Inchoroi, before sealing the Incû-Holoinas shut. Of their species, only Aurang and Aurax had survived.

From the wiki.

[Anonymous No.19494894]

>>19494812
Found it, it's in the glossary, along with probably 90% of the rest of the plot. https://princeofnothing.fandom.com/wiki/Imimor%C3%BBl
Why on earth bakker does this I'll never understand.

Interestingly enough it's ambiguous whether he came from space, or from the outside. It's possible he was an alien, but he refers to himself as a God, refers to his place of origin as either "Heaven" or "the Starving", and says his motivation for leaving was love of the world and wanting to escape the wrath of those who forbid it, doesn't exactly make sense if he was an alien like the lovers. Also he was entirely alone, and describes himself as "the first in whose heart your blood beat", implying he himself had no ancestors.

So if that interpretation is correct, the Non-men are descendents of a ciphrang who fled the outside for the mortal world. A God who apparently invented sorcery, as contradictory as that seems. And if ONE God can come out of the outside and father a race, then who's to say what the origin of humanity is? It's possible this explains the importance of earth and it's inhabitants, they're all part-ciphrang!

[Anonymous No.19494905]

What do you hope to see in the conclusion of the second apocalypse?

[Anonymous No.19494916]

>>19494894
Didn't know anything of that, and it seems even more important for understanding what's going on than snippet about Aspect-emperor swapping his head. Seriously why hide that in glossary.

[Anonymous No.19494925]

>>19494905
Honestly Consult victory seems like happy end next to other possible outcomes, if not accounting for various over-the-top asspull possibilities like Fanim God suddenly arriving and wrecking all ciphrang gods.

[Anonymous No.19494929]

>>19494279
No, my book is for a younger age group. I don't think the western world is ready to put sex with dragons on the shelves right now.

[Anonymous No.19494936]

>>19494925
No the Fanim are wrong, more wrong then the Inrithi
Mimara and Sejenus are legit prophets of the God of Gods

[Anonymous No.19494961]

>>19494936
The only man who's been to Outside and back states that "God of Gods" is basically just an amalgamation of all ciprang collective will, so preventing that thing from feeding on new souls by Mog finishing the job will still be a good outcome if it's impossible to save those whom it grabbed.

[Anonymous No.19494976]

Could you retards just make a fandom wiki? You talk like teens who maintain those for their favorite anime.

[Anonymous No.19494981]

>>19494976
I'm sitting just fine here.

[Anonymous No.19494982]

>>19488619
Not gonna lie, as goofy as the angry face covers are on all the other books, I like the US cover for TUC a lot for some reason. The look of despair on the dude's face encapsulates the tone pretty well

[Anonymous No.19494993]

>>19494936
How are the Fanim wrong when their god is going to reincarnate?

[Anonymous No.19495021]

>>19494976
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.19495029]

>>19494936
>the Fanim are wrong
They probably are, but what the fuck is the Psukhe? How does it not have the mark of sorcery?

[Anonymous No.19495039]

>>19495029
Read The False Sun

[Anonymous No.19495042]

Is this series worth reading?

[Anonymous No.19495048]

>>19495029
The Psûkhe was the most hilarious discovery I've made in the entire series after Moengus autism was too great to master it.

>>19495039
What does the False Sun Cover?

[Anonymous No.19495052]

>>19494976
You will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.19495064]

>Could you retards just make a fandom wiki? You talk like teens who maintain those for their favorite anime.

[Anonymous No.19495085]

>>19495042
I just read it and yeah, kind of. It's got a bit of grit to it that kept threatening to teeter over into a muh justice thing but never did. Even when it let itself get a little more sentimental it was never maudlin. No masterpiece but I don't regret reading it.

[Anonymous No.19495096]

>>19495052
Good

>>19495064
I read one paragraph of Sanderson and closed his books for good, just the same as Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19495097]

>>19495029
It is explained when Kellhus thinks about nature of magic in TTT. IIRC mark comes not from magic use itself but from user imposing his vision on the world that was made by Creator's vision. Cishaurim have no vision, so their use of magic, which is basically tool that remodels the reality, does not infringe on the original, so no mark. They still die from contact with trinket so they aren't special outside of that.

[Anonymous No.19495110]

>>19495097
>does not infringe on the original
So does practicing the Psukhe still damn people?

[Anonymous No.19495138]

>>19495110
Everything except slurping ciphrang-gods AND getting lucky "damns" people, since they are intended to be "damned" or chewed by ciphrang in the afterlife, by design, and the only thing you can do about it short of building advanced Tekne system that bars them away is slurp their ass really hard to convince them that they should feed on your soul in more pleasant way and not in default excruciating one.

[Anonymous No.19495142]

>>19495138
But then how come there seem to be different "tiers" of damnation? Like Mimara seems to perceive some people are more fucked up than others after death.

[Anonymous No.19495160]

>>19495142
Maybe it you're just a common tard you became basic fodder, but if you've been radical all your life you will have some presence above that in the outside (doesn't means that it will become a pleasant stay, when Scarlet mage summons ciphrang to fuck up Achamian ciphrand is referred as tortured soul).

[Anonymous No.19495164]

The world in A Song of Ice and Fire is better than Lord of the Rings. Prove me wrong. I have read both series and the Silmarillion.

[Anonymous No.19495167]

>>19495096
You can' read?

[Anonymous No.19495182]

>>19495160
Pretty sure some souls are favored by the gods.

[Anonymous No.19495184]

>>19495160
It seems that certain sins have an impact on how damned you get, like when Mimara is about to be raped and pleads the rapist no to do it for the sake of his soul, even forgiving him because she feels so bad about the fate to which he's condemned. Also how Ishual is perceived as an "evil place". Cnaiur kinda fits with your post though, I could see him turning into a ciphrang.

[Anonymous No.19495186]

>>19495164
So how does magic work in ASOIAF?

[Anonymous No.19495207]

>>19495186
It doesn't.

[Anonymous No.19495209]

>>19495207
Can you explain?

[Anonymous No.19495215]

>>19495164
Obviously.

[Anonymous No.19495220]

>>19495186
I don't care about magic. The history of the houses and Kingdoms is far more interesting

[Anonymous No.19495224]

>>19491770
Why is the sissy seething again?

[Anonymous No.19495239]

Wintersteel = KINO

[Anonymous No.19495256]

>>19495224
>"They keep shitting up the thread"

Every time.

[Anonymous No.19495259]

>>19495164
>huge continent where they all speak the same language

[Anonymous No.19495292]

>>19491525
i wasn't thinking of those, barely remember any details because it was like 15 years ago but the 2 that most stuck with me are:
>when the evil bald monk goes full demonic and murders the Reader in his own chambers, in full view of everyone proving that he is so far ahead of the good guys that he doesn't have to give a shit about anything
>the sideplot of Simon ends up a slave at the forge under the castle, and the full concept of the giant wheel and the parallel with the bigger story which was being developed since the first book

[Anonymous No.19495303]

>>19495184
I think we will see the Outside from Kellhus' Or Proyas' PoV if he eventually writes the next installments.

[Anonymous No.19495320]

>>19495259
Kek imagine thinking language, clothes, and architecture determines good world building.

[Anonymous No.19495363]

>>19493470
>>19493485
>The Darkness That Comes Before

Already read that you based memers.

[Anonymous No.19495444]

>>19494312
now I know I'll definitely not be reading the whole series, jeez, sick of these pc swj fagg books

>>19494716
I've read a lot better. I was trying to read something more recent to see if the modern writers were any good. definitely thinking they're not.

just saw that it got a 2018 hugo award and a bunch of others. science fiction is dead. rip.

[Anonymous No.19495466]

>>19490742
>>19491166
what do bookfags think of the show so far? I know /tv/ has angry bookfags but I can't say I have the most trust in /tv/'s opinion on most things.

[Anonymous No.19495491]

>>19495444

its better off without you

[Anonymous No.19495498]

>>19491150
it's still baffling how "I don't think transwomen should play sports with women because while they should be treated as women, they are at a biological advantage" and "I don't like the use of the language 'people who menstruate." got turned into "I want to literally lynch transwomen and I hate them and deny that they are women"

[Anonymous No.19495560]

>bakker
>sanderson
>tolkien
>martin
>rothfuss
>abercrombie
>wolfe

[Anonymous No.19495572]

>>19495444
>I've read a lot better. I was trying to read something more recent to see if the modern writers were any good. definitely thinking they're not.
I have too. Unfortunately, as far as recent sci fi goes, All Systems Red is definitely one of the better ones. Sci fi and fantasy are both in a truly dire state these days.

[Anonymous No.19495578]

>>19495491
definitely, I'll leave it all to you, go read your tranny novels anon. don't complain when you convert

[Anonymous No.19495580]

>>19495578
kek

[Anonymous No.19495585]

>>19495572
there's still a lot of older ones that I can read, so I'm alright

[Anonymous No.19495586]

Has there been an influx of new Wheel of Time readers because of the series?

[Anonymous No.19495728]

>>19495586
What do you think, Sherlock?

[Anonymous No.19495747]

>>19495466
You will notice that a common trend in these threads is that almost no one enjoyed the Wheel of Time here. I couldn't care less about the books or the show, but from what I've seen it looks even worse somehow. Which is unironically remarkable.

[Anonymous No.19495748]

>>19495444
It isn't as faggy as some of the modern sci-fi shit on the goodreads list. At least the author hasn't sneaked in the esoteric pronouns yet although I haven't read the last two books.

>>19495586
Probably. I hope the old covers you posted get reprinted because of it.

[Anonymous No.19495786]

>>19495466
I'll tell you what I think: they do not have GoT's problem. The series is done. There are no questions left unanswered. No plot they have to invent. All they needed to do is adapt it. What did they do? They fucking made fan-fiction and adapted that instead. Amazon spent 200 million dollars on this, man. Does it feel like a 200 million dollar show?

[Anonymous No.19495789]

>>19495748
>>19495747
The show won't last 4 seasons. Screen cap this.

[Anonymous No.19495821]

>>19495586
Yes, like with every other t.v adaptation.

[Anonymous No.19495829]

>>19495164
Same. I actually like the tax policy Martin describe his in world.

[Anonymous No.19495858]

>>19495164
>>19495829
I don't know if you guys are just memeing or being real, but I like Tolkien better than Martin. Especially when it comes to the world and the maps. Martin is unoriginal when it comes to that. Westeros is just the U.K and Ireland mix together and inverted.

[Anonymous No.19495867]

>>19495858
Image didn't upload for some reason.

[Anonymous No.19495877]

>>19495858
>Westeros is just the U.K and Ireland mix together and inverted.
No shit. What I like is how the history leads to the books events and feels more real in than mythic.

[Anonymous No.19495883]

>>19495877
>history leads to the books events and feels more real
Eh, feels more contrive than anything else, especially during the story.

[Anonymous No.19495894]

>>19495883
Honestly, I think that only comes to Stannis, where he got shafted so fucking hard just so the Lannisters can have a victory.

[Anonymous No.19495903]

Finally a good thread discussing the fine points of Psukhe.

By the way its weird that in the book Moenghus is said to be a really powerful and dangerous Fanim sorcerer but Kellhus said he is kinda weak in it really

[Anonymous No.19495908]

>>19495894
More like how the Houses stayed alive for centuries when some of them would have died out like in real life.

[Anonymous No.19495912]

>>19495908
>Houses stayed alive for centuries
But some of them did die out? Or are we ignoring Duncan and Egg’s adventures?

[Anonymous No.19495915]

>>19495908
There are houses that died out. The family that held Storm's End were killed off by the Targaryens, Harrenhall's previous lord as well.

[Anonymous No.19495921]

>>19495915
>The family that held Storm's End were killed off by the Targaryens,
No, they survive when the daughter married Lord Baratheon?

>Harrenhall's previous lord as well.
I'll give you this. That family is completely extinct. Though I think one survive as a nightwatchman.

[Anonymous No.19495923]

>>19495903
There is nothing weird about it. I believe that what's implied is not necessarily that he's a strong sorcerer, but a highly regarded member of the Cishaurim. I believe that when Kellhus starts displaying affection towards Esmenet in the Unholy Consult is simply him attempting to tap into the Psukhe.

[Anonymous No.19495931]

>>19495921
Not to mention the various kings that try to make a riverland kingdom. It’s a miracle the Tully aren’t extinct.

[Anonymous No.19495933]

Are there any fantasy novels that rip off Macbeth instead of LOTR?

[Anonymous No.19495936]

>>19495915
The Arryns are also dead as well with Sweetrobin about to be killed.

[Anonymous No.19495941]

>>19495858
>mapfag
Geography is like the lamest, least interesting possible facet of worldbuilding. No one puts any creativity into it because it's fucking unnecessary beyond some generalities. A fucking toddler could draw some shapes on a piece of paper and you could just use that as a map. Maps are an utterly idiotic thing to care about when it comes to worldbuilding.

[Anonymous No.19495943]

New thread
>>19495939

[Anonymous No.19495944]

Bump Limit Reached

[Anonymous No.19495959]

>>19495943
And the new thread is already ruin, Bakkerfags really want /sffg/ to die for some reason.

[Anonymous No.19496884]

>>19495943
Kek, thread is dead as fuck.