/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.19481640]

Sprawling Metropolis edition

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[Anonymous No.19481646]

Are there any good litrpg books left?

[Anonymous No.19481652]

>>19481646
Some people call Iron Prince litrpg. But the authors don't.

[Anonymous No.19481679]

is it true Bakker once posted here

[Anonymous No.19481713]

>>19481679
No

[Anonymous No.19481720]

>>19481646
There never were

[Anonymous No.19481732]

>>19481720
Glory Road, 1963 Robert A Heinlein

[Anonymous No.19481856]

>>19481646
>>19481652
>>19481720
>>19481732
LitRPG readers, either kill yourselves or read better books. Start with The Darkness That Comes Before. Stop clinging to novelized video games.

[Anonymous No.19481906]

>>19481646
The Wandering Inn
Cradle
Truth seeker: A litrpg timeloop.
The system apocalypse life in the north.

[Anonymous No.19481912]

Threadly reminder to read Bakker. Start with The Darkness That Comes Before. The Second Apocalypse series is part of the /sffg/ canon. Not understanding Bakker memes renders you blind to most of the relevant discussion that goes on here.

[Anonymous No.19481962]

>>19481646
Haven't read any litrpg yet, though I am planning to in the near future.

I was recommended:
Ascend Online
Arcane Ascenion
Divine Dungeon
Completionist Chronicles
Advent: An Apocalyptic LitRPG

[Anonymous No.19481975]

>>19481962
Have you tried these
>RuneScape
>World of Warcraft
>Elden Ring
>Super Mario

All great RPGs with text in them. Wow!

[Anonymous No.19481982]

[Anonymous No.19481986]

>>19481962
>Advent: An Apocalyptic LitRPG
I’ll recommend you start with this one. It’s great. Personally, it’s my favorite litrpg book.

[Anonymous No.19481988]

>>19481906
Cradle isn't litrpg
>>19481962
Arcane Ascension isn't litrpg. Also it's gay.

[Anonymous No.19481992]

>>19481646
what is a litrpg. is it like those old adventure gamebooks

[Anonymous No.19481998]

>>19481992
Literary role playing game. I dont konw which is worse, those or choose-your-own-adventure. I actually can't wrap my head around how people actually read those. Its like when one degenerate shit goes away from sffg another one replaces it.

[Anonymous No.19482000]

>>19481992
LitRPG is any book where video game mechanics exist as an important narrative element.

[Anonymous No.19482008]

>>19482000
so like an isekai anime? i get it
>>19481998
could be fun for kids i guess

[Anonymous No.19482015]

Any good pirate fantasy type of shit? stand alone and series welcome. adult in nature as well, not any kid stuff

[Anonymous No.19482017]

>>19482008
>>19482000
I read this description and I am appalled. Why would anyone read this shit?

[Anonymous No.19482027]

>>19481646
Been reading the Crafting of Chess and it’s been fun.

[Anonymous No.19482032]

>>19482027
>>19482000
>>19481986
>>19481962
>>19481906
>>19481732
>>19481646

I will not believe there are so many LitRPG readers in /sffg/. This is some kind of ploy to trick people. A deliberate troll. No one actually reads those.

[Anonymous No.19482037]

Why is it nearly impossible to read reviews without encountering people whining about "pretentious" or "purple" prose? And not just for books written with an intentionally archaic style, you see the same "critique" smeared across even the most generic fantasy novels. It's almost as though people take any attempt to use anything more than the absolute basics of English as a personal insult.

[Anonymous No.19482040]

>>19482032
Who else posts anime OP and complains about Bakker?

[Anonymous No.19482041]

>>19482037
most people like things delivered in a simple and straightforward manner. it's why sanderson is so popular. it just is what it is

[Anonymous No.19482043]

King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.19482046]

>>19482008
Not all isekai are litrpg, but a ton of them are litrpg isekai garbage yeah.

[Anonymous No.19482048]

>>19482037
Its the current era. Have you not watched all those writer-youtubers. You have to keep your prose concise! Imagine how many people will drop your book if they have to look one word from the dictionary. On the related note: Here are all the accepted words for books, there are 200 of them.

[Anonymous No.19482052]

>>19482032
There is one resident Zombie here who uses a VPN 24/7 in order to promote his shit animes. Don't fall for it.

[Anonymous No.19482056]

>>19482037

[Anonymous No.19482064]

>>19482056

[Anonymous No.19482074]

>>19482032
I enjoy reading and I really don't give two shits about what anonymous people think of what I read. Don't know why you find that so hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.19482079]

>>19482074
Whatever you say VPN-boy, but read proper books once in a while.

[Anonymous No.19482080]

>>19482056
The fear of being an aging whore seems to have hit home.

[Anonymous No.19482088]

Will the Amazon LOTR series forever tarnish the series in the minds of normies

[Anonymous No.19482091]

[Anonymous No.19482097]

>>19482074
Yeah, yeah, tastes differ and eye of the beholder and all that, but man, that doesnt change the fact that you are reading transcripts of youtube Let's Plays like an absolute double pillock lmao

[Anonymous No.19482098]

>>19482080
Funny how she says that an aging hooker's life isn't profound. Has she forgot about feminist female empowerment?

[Anonymous No.19482100]

>>19482091
that's a good top 3

[Anonymous No.19482102]

>>19482097
>you are reading transcripts of youtube Let's Plays
Come on man he's not reading Sanderson

[Anonymous No.19482104]

>>19482074
>VPN
We accept your surrender.

[Anonymous No.19482105]

>>19482097
>reading transcripts of youtube Let's Plays like an absolute double pillock lmao
Thanks, I'm gonna use it in the future.

[Anonymous No.19482123]

>>19482080
This is funny cause further development of the aging hooker's story makes it look like Bakker ripped off low quality female smut for women, I thought all those hoes are supposed to like it.

[Anonymous No.19482161]

>>19482091
>30% like bakker
>70% don't
Sounds about right, haha...

[Anonymous No.19482162]

>>19482161
>People can only enjoy one author.
Retard.

[Anonymous No.19482165]

>>19482162
>People can only enjoy one author.
This, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.19482183]

>>19482043
based

[Anonymous No.19482185]

WHERE IS SCOTT? The man has completely ridden himself of any online presence.

[Anonymous No.19482186]

>>19482185

[Anonymous No.19482189]

>>19482185
http://www.rscottbakker.com/
his website is RIP

[Anonymous No.19482190]

>>19482186
>r*ddit
Go back.

[Anonymous No.19482199]

>>19482185
he visited /sffg/ for 10 seconds once and went in hiding in fear of what he has created

[Anonymous No.19482206]

>>19482186
Anyone could write *Soon*

[Anonymous No.19482235]

Who is the best author of fantasy adventure fiction currently working who is not Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.19482285]

Where is the based nonman poster?

[Anonymous No.19482293]

>>19482235
Possibly Bakker, it depends on whether he's working or not.

[Anonymous No.19482299]

>>19482091
I remember that poll. I voted for Bakker even though ive never read his books.

[Anonymous No.19482307]

>>19482235
Malice by John Gwynne, its an absolutely amazing debut and I highly recommend it.

[Anonymous No.19482310]

And so, 11 years ago it began.

[Anonymous No.19482359]

>>19482088
Every time this gets posted I'm getting chills from how this is really similar to the real novel.

[Anonymous No.19482426]

>>19482310
>B-but I swear that Bakker has only been on /sffg/'s radar for the past year or so.

[Anonymous No.19482438]

So, is Achamian the strongest Gnosis sorcerer in the world? Outside of the Anasûrimbor, that is.

[Anonymous No.19482443]

>>19482293
Already read him and found him overpraised around here. He can turn a good sentence but the plot was just the crusades in a grimdark world with a protagonist so alien as to be wholly unrelatable, not to my taste. And I'm not even a leftist but that one critique about all the women being tedious whores felt accurate.

>>19482307
I bought this with cash money, you better not have steered me wrong anon

[Anonymous No.19482449]

>>19482426
its funny actually, first /sffg/ thread is from 2015 so bakker in /lit/ is older than /sffg/

[Anonymous No.19482456]

>>19482438
He is probably not even that powerful. An average gnostic sorcerer but of course all gnostic sorcerers are power houses. Seswatha or Titirga for example were much more powerful. I guess many of the nonmen magi were also more powerful. If you are talking about the living ones, I'd still say Serwe, Kellhus's daugther is stronger.

[Anonymous No.19482461]

>>19482438
Not really, wasn't it mentioned that some people in Mandate were capable of using metagnostic stuff, albeit rarely and with great effort? He definitely got fattest plot armor tho, and that's the only thing matters in story and not power level. All the power level in the world won't save you if author decides that you forgot that you can teleport at the moment.

[Anonymous No.19482462]

>>19482456
to add to this, Achamian is probably weaker than whoever was the leader of the Mandate during the Great Ordeal. There really isn't anything special about Achamian as far as his powers go.

[Anonymous No.19482463]

Achamian is probably Seswatha incarnate. But that's just a feeling I have. Doesn't really matter if he's a shit sorcerer.

[Anonymous No.19482475]

Yes, I'm thinking based.

[Anonymous No.19482478]

>>19482463
He is not the Seswatha incarnate. If anyone is, then Kellhus, wasnt Seswatha banging some Anasurimbor's wife? Every Mandate sorcerer in a way is Seswatha. I think in the second series Achamian's dreams changed when he was a Wizard in exile, but I think this could have happened to any Mandate Sorcerer.

[Anonymous No.19482479]

>>19482456
>I'd still say Serwe
She's explicitly stated to be fucking dead. All of Kellhus' mutt kids are dead unless eldest one somehow outrun sranc horde on his feet.
>>19482463
But Seswatha was the one stealing other people bitches and not the other way around. It could have rubbed off at least.

[Anonymous No.19482481]

>>19482475
And this was five years before /sffg/ was created. This whole general is such a new meme compared to the appreciation Bakker has accumulated for eleven years in /lit/.

[Anonymous No.19482484]

>>19482478
>If anyone is, then Kellhus
Pretty sure taht if Kellhus is anyone's reincarnation, which I do not think is the case, it would certainly be Anasûrimbor Celmomas II.

[Anonymous No.19482492]

>>19482235

[Anonymous No.19482494]

>>19482484
Kellhus will reeincarnate through Mimara's son.

[Anonymous No.19482498]

>>19482484
>Anasûrimbor Celmomas II.
and by extension Kelmomas is the reincarnation of Anasûrimbor Nau-Cayûti for the reason that both were compatible with the coffin

[Anonymous No.19482503]

>>19482494
How?
>>19482492
Cringe
>>19482475
Based

[Anonymous No.19482509]

>>19482494
Kek I wanted to post same thing seeing post about big space for speculation created due to Outside being atemporal.
Imagine Akka's face, faces of everyone involved really.

[Anonymous No.19482520]

>>19482509
What I really want to know is what on earth does that one weird scene mean where Kellhus is in the Outside and the followint is said
>there’s a head on a pole behind you
And what the ciphrangs say
>the living should not haunt the dead
Which of course is a reference to Kellhus visiting Outside many times

[Anonymous No.19482573]

>>19482481
I'd also like to add that the very first /sffg/ thread had eleven mentions of Bakker.

[Anonymous No.19482663]

>>19482492
thanks, you killed the thread

[Anonymous No.19482664]

>>19482663
Not him and haven't read him but what's wrong with will wright?

[Anonymous No.19482673]

>>19482664
who's will wright

[Anonymous No.19482728]

>>19482461
Only khellus can use metagnostic

[Anonymous No.19482765]

I remember reading a fantasy series when I was a kid about two brothers, one of which was a frail, clever, unscupulous wizard, and the other was a good-natured warrior-type. The wizard brother took advantage of his kin and, gradually, became stronger. Does anyone here know there series?

[Anonymous No.19482780]

>>19482728
This is incorrect, and you would know that if you've read the books.

[Anonymous No.19482802]

>>19482479
achamian DID cuck kellhus by having sex with esmenet at shimeh

[Anonymous No.19482814]

>>19482520
He decapitated himself to enter the Outside. This let him speak with the ciphrang, but remain entirely alive so they couldn't actually touch him. The reason he had to constantly remind himself is that the ciphrang feed on fear, so if the slightest fear started creeping into his thoughts they'd swarm him. Remember he's not entirely without emotions, just extremely controlled. If being crucified got to him, personally visiting literal hell and talking to demons certainly had the potential to go wrong.
Not only that, but remember there's no time on the outside, if he doesn't constantly remember he's not dead he could effectively spend eternity out there anyway.

[Anonymous No.19483006]

Just finished Blindsight. It was a very good first contact story, ending could have been better but it was nice nonetheless. I was just wondering about a few things (spoilers). First, did I understand correctly than Sarasti wanted the narrator to implicate himself in the system to be a better advocate for defense when he'll be back to earth? Was it the reason he attacked him or was it part for it and part because he was overcomed by murdering impulses? Was Sarasti lacking consciousness or was his consciousness "corrected" by his interfacing by the spaceship IA?

[Anonymous No.19483067]

>>19482443
Kellhus isn't the protagonist, and who cares if he's relatable so long as he's consistent? Fantasy is about verisimilitude, not reproducing reality.

[Anonymous No.19483078]

>>19482765
You might want to try the next thread. This thread is already lost.

[Anonymous No.19483141]

SECOND APOCALYPSE LYPSE IS NOT THAT GOOD

[Anonymous No.19483170]

>>19483006
Wasn't it stated that vampires get their extreme brainpowers from their brain not having to process consciousness?

[Anonymous No.19483198]

>>19483006
It's been awhile since I've read it so I'm forgetting details, but Sarasti is controlled by the ship AI and all actions taken by them are in some way intended to fulfill the mission. The vampires are like the aliens in terms of lack of consciousness, they're hyper-intelligent chinese rooms

[Anonymous No.19483228]

>>19481640
All /sffg/fags must hang

[Anonymous No.19483294]

>>19483198
>>19483170
I don't think that that was clearly stated, maybe inferred. If I remember correctly the narrator wonder if that was Sarasti or the AI that was calling the shots all this time, but has no definite answer.

[Anonymous No.19483360]

>>19483078
Not if we fight back.
Depending on personal preference, it could hide even more automatically.

[Anonymous No.19483372]

>>19483078
Does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.19483402]

>>19482307
>Malice by John Gwynne, its an absolutely amazing debut and I highly recommend it.
Any woke shit in it?

[Anonymous No.19483413]

>>19483067
>who cares if he's relatable
agreed. that's the problem with most new fantasy written by niggers, faggots, and women. they're meant for the readers to feel good, to feel "seen" in another world that isn't like their pathetic reality, at the expense of a terrible plot and mass marketing by retards on popular book forums/websites.

this is why wokeism in sff is a disease.

[Anonymous No.19483485]

Someone mind tossing me a fantasy series to get into?
Something that deals with several fantasy races and is decently long.
I've read lotr and Im not looking to reread it for awhile.

[Anonymous No.19483491]

>>19483485
It's 7 books long

[Anonymous No.19483501]

I am making a list of worth reading novels and series based on popularity, critical acclaim and the influence they had, what should I add if those are the first titles that come to my mind?

The Hobbit/Lord Of The Rings/Silmarillion
The Dune books by Frank Herbert
Foundation
Conan The Barbarian
Elric Of Melnibone
Hyperion
The Culture Series
The Worm Ouroboros
Earthsea
Book Of The New Sun
John Carter Of Mars
Almost everything Jack Vance ever wrote
A Song Of Ice and Fire
Fafhrd and the grey mouser
The first 5 Chronicles Of Amber books
The Witcher
The Wheel Of Time
The Dragonriders of Pern series
The Riftwar saga/The Empire trilogy/Krondor's Sons/The Serpentwar Saga
The Dark Tower
The Realm of the Elderlings
The Gentlemen Bastards series
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant
The Sprawl trilogy

[Anonymous No.19483508]

>>19483501
Weak bait.

[Anonymous No.19483517]

>>19482091
>Erickson
Those 17 anons should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous No.19483522]

>>19483517
>>Erickson
>ck
So should you.

[Anonymous No.19483539]

looking for Wolfe recommendations. I have most of the solar cycle, I'm asking for the last 2 in the series that I haven't got yet. Also thinking of asking for Latro in the Mist and Pirate Freedom. I've heard later Wolfe has more mixed reviews, thoughts? What's the period considered the cutoff? Home Fires sounds like an interesting premise, but idk if I should go for earlier works instead

I have a pdf of Fifth head of Cerberus, I do want a physical copy but I can wait too

[Anonymous No.19483578]

>>19481640
Reposting from the previous thread because no one replied

>Just watched Arcane, and got an itch to read some steampunk. Need something played completely or mostly straight in terms of tropes and fairly entry-level. Not big into reading, haven’t opened a non-light novel book in God knows when, so I won’t be able to appreciate the deeper cuts anyway.

[Anonymous No.19483589]

>>19483578
The Difference Engine, by Gibson and Sterling. All steampunk is inevitably shit, so you might as well go straight for patient zero, see that it's shit, and then snap out of whatever retarded state it is that you're in.

[Anonymous No.19483600]

>>19483491
Does this deal with fantasy races and shit? The blurb makes me think not but i may be retarded.

[Anonymous No.19483612]

>>19483485
Dagger and Coin

[Anonymous No.19483620]

>>19483600
I kept shitting on it too, until I read it and became my favorite fantasy series of all time. Just look at this entire thread(or /sffg/'s history and even before that) and find out.

[Anonymous No.19483639]

>>19482056
>Bakker doesn't describe the appearance of his characters at all
holy shit, he's the male Jane Austen, no wonder his books are so popular among masculine equivalent of a spinster

[Anonymous No.19483649]

>>19483589
>All steampunk is inevitably shit
Why, anon?

[Anonymous No.19483658]

>>19483485
Wheel of Time

[Anonymous No.19483663]

>>19483612
>Dagger and Coin
Looks interesting. Are the characters mostly humans?

[Anonymous No.19483673]

>>19483600
>Does this deal with fantasy races and shit?
Yes but not the way you expect. Almost all protagonists are human.

[Anonymous No.19483681]

>>19483663
Yes, almost all that travel with the viewpoint characters are human.

[Anonymous No.19483689]

>>19483681
There are thirteen races though and are featured throughout the series.

[Anonymous No.19483695]

>>19482765
please respond

[Anonymous No.19483698]

>>19483658
I tried reading that like 3 years ago and found is cumbersome to read. Like I get it but eh.

>>19483620
>>19483673
aight I'll give the first one a go.

[Anonymous No.19483702]

is Shadow of the Torturer any good?

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19483712]

>>19482765
Could be Raistlin and Caramon Majere.

[Anonymous No.19483723]

>>19483501
The Commonwealth Saga
Ringworld series

[Anonymous No.19483734]

>>19483689
Thanks. From the covers and art related to the series, there seem to be a ton of races, and I'm not interested in reading from the points of view of lizard people.

Are the races akin to those found in LOTR and other high fantasy novels, like humans, dwarfs, elves, orcs, etc.?

[Anonymous No.19483748]

>>19483734
Yes and no. He drew a lot from Tolkien and Herbert.

[Anonymous No.19483770]

>>19483748
Can you please elaborate?

[Anonymous No.19483786]

>>19483770
Read the books.

[Anonymous No.19483815]

>>19483734
No, they are mostly relatively original races. Each of the races were created from humans based on the whims of the specific dragon tyrant.

[Anonymous No.19483828]

>>19483702
read the whole series, Shadow is good but the other entries in the Book of the New Sun are better

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.19483853]

>>19481640
Stranger of Tempest, The God Fragments #1 - Tom Lloyd (2016)
If the book's cover makes you think "Is that a Balrog on the Bridge of Khazad-dûm?" that's because it's almost certainly meant to evoke that feeling. As for the name, the mercenary company that the book revolves around is based on a deck of cards. The protagonist is the face card, stranger, of the tempest suit.

The publisher describes Tom Lloyd's works as being commercial fantasy, and that's what this book is, so set your expectations accordingly. There's minimal depth and development of any sort along with a lot of nonsense. While there are ideas present that could be explored, they aren't. Although there's a wide cast of characters most of them don't matter in the slightest. Those that do matter are almost all a singular exaggerated trait. Expect various D&D, videogame, and fantasy tropes.

There's also a considerable amount of sexual innuendo and suggestive content. Characters have sex, but it isn't really described. The opening line is representative of the book as a whole: For a damsel in distress, she was rather more spattered with someone else's blood than Lynx had expected. And naked. Very naked.

The primary gimmick is the mage-guns. These guns reminded me of most of Final Fantasy Tactics because they're very similar to them and may have been one of the earliest examples, though there are many others now. The bullets so far are elemental and casts spells of ice, fire, lightning, earth, and light. Others are mentioned though not yet shown. There are also magic grenades and catapults. Mages exist but are enslaved by the religions to create magical ammo.

The first half is 3.5 star fun, the second half 3 star not-so-fun, and the ending whiplashed me with its pacing. Even so, I'll more likely than not read more from this series later on, as it's already finished and not that long. This is the kind of silliness I can go along with every now and again. It seems doubtful that I'll read other series by this author, but that's to be decided after I finish this series.
Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.19483866]

If you haven't turned on "force long posts to wrap" on in the 4chan settings, you really ought to. It makes everything look so much better.

[Anonymous No.19483972]

>>19483501
>Witcher
>Waste of Time
>Dark Tower

[Anonymous No.19484002]

If you don't like Terry Goodkind it's because you aren't smart enough. This is not ironic. The people who don't like this guy think Robert Jordan is the pinnacle of writing.

[Anonymous No.19484055]

>>19483501
Hainish Cycle

[Anonymous No.19484133]

>>19484002
actually its because I hate smug atheists B)

[Anonymous No.19484146]

>>19484133
He was a catholic actually.

[Anonymous No.19484196]

The Evolution of Brandon Sanderson
https://www.tor.com/2021/11/29/the-evolution-of-brandon-sanderson-how-elantris-planted-the-seeds-for-future-cosmere-goodness/

[Anonymous No.19484199]

>>19484146
Tolkien?

Yes.

[Anonymous No.19484215]

>>19484199
So was Goodkind.

[Anonymous No.19484224]

>>19484215
Do you have any proof of this?

[Anonymous No.19484241]

>>19484224
Google it?

[Anonymous No.19484243]

>>19484241
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.19484253]

>>19484215
You're dealing with a troll.

[Anonymous No.19484261]

>>19483712
That's it. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.19484264]

>>19484215
No he wasn't. Terry Goodkind was an ex-mormon who became atheist after overdosing on Ayn Rand novels. He respects the power of religion as a storytelling medium, but he is explicitly against organized religion much the same as he is against an organized state, being a radical objectivist libertarian.
There's an interview here where he displays his contempt for both.
http://fantasybookcritic.blogspot.com/2007/12/interview-with-terry-goodkind.html

[Anonymous No.19484285]

>>19484264
He was too smart to believe in such tall tails.

[Anonymous No.19484289]

>>19482765
>>19483712
>>19484261
By coincidence I had found the first Dragonlance trilogy the last time I was in a Barnes and Noble and decided to pick it up so that's neat

[Anonymous No.19484293]

>>19482091
I remember voting dozens of times on that poll.

[Anonymous No.19484295]

>>19483702
I think it's very good, yeah. I agree with that other anon too that the series gets even better with the other entries. On Sword of the Lictor now and it might be my favorite so far.

[Anonymous No.19484307]

>>19484293
Didn't ask.

[Anonymous No.19484313]

>>19484289
>>19483712
How do these books compare to the standard Forgotten Realms stuff? I read the Azure Bonds trilogy and it was alright but didn't strike the same cord for me as some other "light" fantasy novels.

[Anonymous No.19484347]

>>19484313
I don't know I haven't read it yet, I always got a backlog of books to read whenever I pick shit up from the bookstore or order things off amazon or whatever, but they strike me as relatively lowbrow wholesome high fantasy, palatable for readers of all ages. Considering Hickman and Weiss have written about a hundred of the damn things, I'm guessing the writing can't be too terrible.

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19484386]

Azure Bonds isn't really standard or representative of Forgotten Realms for starters. I read Dragonlance as well in my younger years, but I didn't care for it as much. One thing is that it has multiple and retroactive continuities. Not to the level of comic books, but it's present. The setting changes a lot depending on where in the timeline in it is. There's a central story to Dragonlance and also tons of other books. Forgotten Realms technically had a somewhat central series of stories that progressed the timeline, but overall it was more focused on just whatever its best selling authors were doing. They officially had a three ring tier system that novels were classified by.

[Anonymous No.19484389]

>>19483491
I just started these and they were surprisingly refreshing. Completely different from your stereotypical fantasy tropes.

[Anonymous No.19484395]

>>19484386
>>19484313
Oops

[Anonymous No.19484396]

>>19481856
I was wondering what the fuck litrpgs were.

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19484408]

>>19484396
That's not really an accurate description. Novelized videogames exist without being LitRPG in any way.

[Anonymous No.19484451]

>>19483517
Still better than Bakker

[Anonymous No.19484465]

>>19484451
Not according to the poll.

[None !!SiGCTkkfVKz No.19484525]

I'll be using this tripcode for rest of the year, mostly for my own benefit, to see how much else that isn't spammed low quality content is from others. If you respond to it, you're part of the problem, which may not be a problem for you personally.

Some, but not all, of my posts in this thread. I almost always post as anon in /sffg/, but not for now.

>>19483360
>>19483612
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>>19484395

[Anonymous No.19484531]

>>19484525
No one cares.

[Anonymous No.19484532]

>>19482015
"Chase the Morning" by Michael Scott Rohan is exactly what you are looking for.

[Anonymous No.19484538]

>>19484525
Was thinking of doing the same.

[Anonymous No.19484539]

>>19484525
Nice blog post.
How do I unsubscribe?

[Anonymous No.19484546]

>>19484525
Thank you. Now I can easily filter your posts.

[Anonymous No.19484555]

>>19484525
Probably for the best. Was thinking of just lurking instead.

[Anonymous No.19484578]

>>19484546
This desu. I wish to avoid the anime-shitter as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.19484589]

>>19484525
Shame the bakkerfags are shitting up the thread. The last few threads were decent. Don’t know why they’re throwing such an autistic bitchfit though.

[Anonymous No.19484611]

>>19484589
>shitting up the thread
I have never read Bakker, but posters like you give me a reason to post Bakker memes in these threads.

[Anonymous No.19484614]

>>19484611
This desu.

[Anonymous No.19484622]

>>19484589 (You)
>>19484555 (You)
>>19484538 (You)
>>19484525 (You)
ALL ME!

[Anonymous No.19484784]

>>19483485
What are you looking for?

Black Company is light reading, but has some pretty dark vibes. Only the first two books are really great so it's not a huge commitment.

>>19483491
Is phenomenal but quite dark, lot of violence, sex, etc. Not for everyone.

Red Rising is kind of soft scifi fantasy, very unrealistic plot but a fun ride. First book is a little weak, kind of a better Hunger Games meets Ender's Game, but it gets better from there.

Shadow of the Torturer is pretty good if you want something more literary. Wasn't a huge fan but it was good.

[Anonymous No.19484841]

>>19484784
I like my books to be the exact opposite of Reddit.

[Anonymous No.19484864]

>>19484841
Fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.19484876]

>>19484864

[Anonymous No.19484965]

>>19483853
Dank je, anon. I won't be reading the book as its not my cup of tea but your text dump was appreciated.

[Anonymous No.19484985]

>>19481646
I liked the Life Reset series. And I've only found one Russian series I didn't like.

[Anonymous No.19485001]

>>19481646
Oh and Dungeon Crawler Carl is still ongoing and is a lot of fun.

[Anonymous No.19485007]

>>19484965
You're welcome. I'm glad that it may have been at least slightly useful.

As note for everyone, my current plan only has fantasy books for rest of the year. For posting in this general anyway. If you think I should include a couple science fiction novels, let me know. I may anyway because my plans are always changing.

[Anonymous No.19485065]

>>19482091
>Wolfe unseated
This is not something to be proud of

[Anonymous No.19485067]

>flip a page
>+5000 exp

the state of zoomer lit.

[Anonymous No.19485072]

>>19485065
Anon, Wolfe is dead.

[Anonymous No.19485081]

>>19485072
Unlike Tolkien? The poll doesn't say favorite living

[Anonymous No.19485085]

>>19485081
Anon, Tolkien is also dead.

[Anonymous No.19485117]

ultimate incel fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19485131]

>>19485117
Your diary.

[Anonymous No.19485148]

Why would anyone seriously expect him to finish his series? The story has been told, regardless of what he changes, it will ultimately look forced and out of place. Why would he go through the trouble of writing characters like "Hodor" just to please your curiosity?

I would feel like shit too if I was him.

[Anonymous No.19485181]

>>19485131
actually it's the Eyes of the Overworld but I fucked up the captcha

[Anonymous No.19485196]

>>19484313
Dragonlance tried to be more trad, high fantasy while Forgotten Realms was more serial adventure.

[Anonymous No.19485287]

>>19484876
/sffg/ is the only sff "forum" that isn't entirely pozzed.

[Anonymous No.19485365]

>>19481906
>The Wandering Inn
Not sure about that. It was my go-to 4/10 audiobook backgrounder (like Super Powereds before it) but volume 5 just opened with ten hours of the King of Destruction revealed to be friendly grandpa. As a fan of the new pulp era I admire the writing pace, but at that rate what attracts a reader is sensibility, not quality.

[Anonymous No.19485382]

>>19482091
>tolkien nr 3

Embarassing. Him and Lewis are shit.

[Anonymous No.19485500]

>>19482091
Accurate.

[Anonymous No.19485532]

>>19485365
>Super Powereds
Ain’t that the superhero novel? Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.19485574]

>>19485532
No, it's not good. But for me it was executed just well enough to trigger the junk food vibe. One led to the other. Also I had the advantage of listening to it as an audiobook while I was working on other things so I could tune in and out as the story deserved. If you have that luxury then go for it. If you give it all of your attention and demand it performs for you you will likely be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.19485589]

>>19482017
Reading the description of litrpg books on Amazon is fun but I also liked perusing DeviantArt way back and finding some truly awful shit.

[Anonymous No.19485593]

>>19484876
>>19484841
The editors at the publishing houses and most of the authors think like this too. Is there any hope for pure escapism and imagination to return to this genre or will everything need to follow the Eternals model of a giant bloated inclusive ensemble cast of boring ass characters?

[Anonymous No.19485623]

>>19485593
The mosh pit of self publishing is where you want to be. Unfortunately there's no taste correction authority right now but corporate publishers are more invested in supporting the status quo. At the same time it's easier than ever for an author to get his work out there.

[Anonymous No.19485629]

>>19485623
>At the same time it's easier than ever for an author to get his work out there.
Being a genuinely good writer isn't nearly enough to make it these days.

[Anonymous No.19485631]

>>19482017
Why do you pose this hard when you are anonymous?

[Anonymous No.19485639]

>>19485593
I don't really care about diversity but I also don't mind it. That said as soon as those awful alien pronouns or any hint of progressivespeak appear, I drop books instantly.

[Anonymous No.19485651]

>>19485639
All I care about are realistic narratives. I will drop a book immediately If I can't feel a sense of immersion because of the slightest hint of modern politics and/or social norms.

[Anonymous No.19485805]

>>19483578
Drop everything and pick up the Tales of Ketty Jay series it’s criminally underrated

[Anonymous No.19485807]

I dropped 150 bucks on this as a Christmas gift to myself

[Anonymous No.19485863]

>>19485807
very nice

[Anonymous No.19485909]

>>19482664
He writes litty books for the fans

[Anonymous No.19485971]

/lit/bros i actually liked the last wish should i kill myself

[Anonymous No.19486010]

>>19485971
Nah, it was fun.

>>19484841
If you want what those topics are bitching about then you'll be plenty happy with Bakker, but Bakker is also good and not just edgey like Prince of Thorns. Prince of Thorns was alright, just that edge was overboard.

[Anonymous No.19486021]

>>19484876
I'm deliberately making my fantasy world patriarchal and not in a
>oh isn't it awful? Luckily our plucky protagonist has a word to say about it!
No- women are barred from college and religious service (except as nuns); even the female prophet of the religion said women shouldn't be rulers or warriors. I want cucks to seethe when they read my work.
And there's different races sure, with different skin tones. But they're all pricks and have creepy beliefs.

[Anonymous No.19486032]

>>19486021
This is /lit/ not /based department/

[Anonymous No.19486184]

The best movie I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.19486213]

bros I am FINALLY enjoying Children of Dune. the House Corrino shit is a bit boring, but I'm definitely interested to see where shit goes with Leto. Should I jump straight to God Emperor next, or is it worth it to take a little break? I guess Children of Dune + God Emperor consist of Leto II's arc, yea?

[Anonymous No.19486271]

I'm partway through Dune and kynes just died. The harnokens I assume or the saddukar let him die in the desert. But I thought the Baron wanted to borrow him from the saddukar and question him before making his death an accident. Am I missing something here or is this explained later and I'm not supposed to know at this point? Thanks frens

[Anonymous No.19486276]

>>19486271
Just keep reading

[Anonymous No.19486292]

>>19486276
Alright thanks.

[Anonymous No.19486326]

>>19486213
Depends on how much you like Leto. Taking a break is fine if you need to. God Emperor takes place like, 3000, years into the future so its not a bad place to stop for a bit. Although, personally, I recommend just going straight into it.

[Anonymous No.19486350]

>>19486213
I went right to God Emperor, I feel like it's a more logical place to stop. It's a very different book though. [Spoiler]Peak /lit/. Leto II is just a fat, immortal, genius incel slinging bants at people as they fail to assassinate him. He just lays on a couch and shit talks. Definetly /ourguy/.[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.19486429]

>>19485117
I'm curious what makes you say that, is it that Cugel frequently dodges any comeuppance whilst being an unrepentant thief, swindler and lech?

[Anonymous No.19486591]

Daniel Greene hates Bakker

[Anonymous No.19486602]

>>19486591
Daniel Greene is a faggot who rated Wizards First Rule a 0/5. Which is a retarded opinion. I understand not liking it, but to say it's a 0/5 is insane. He likely did it because he doesn't like the authors political opinions.

[Anonymous No.19486609]

best sff that deals with the folly of striving for immortality?

[Anonymous No.19486694]

>>19486609
Dnno about folly but xianxia shows that it’s tragic and lonely and without a solid as steel dao heart you will succumb to inner demons

[Anonymous No.19486697]

>>19486602
>He likely did it because he doesn't like the authors political opinions.
That's exactly why.

[Anonymous No.19486715]

>>19486694
Name a few.

[Anonymous No.19486727]

>>19486715
I could name 100... they are all like that

[Anonymous No.19486763]

>>19486727
Sounds pretty based and philosophical. Name me your top picks.

[Anonymous No.19486827]

>>19486763
A Record of a Mortals Journey to Immortality
Is a recent story I read all the way to the end and enjoyed.

Mostly lately I’ve been reading machine translated garbage so I can’t recommend them

[Anonymous No.19486914]

>>19486827
>A Record of a Mortals Journey to Immortality
Nice, I'll be sure to check it out next.

>Mostly lately I’ve been reading machine translated garbage so I can’t recommend them
Shame, I've read some machine translated stories, so I'm not averse by them.

[Anonymous No.19486948]

>>19486914
Then I liked My Hair can Create a Demon Country and Fearsome Farmer
They are MTL but not really proper xianxia

[Anonymous No.19487017]

>>19486948
Thanks again for the recommendation, anon.

[Anonymous No.19487124]

>>19486827
>machine translated, machine written

[Anonymous No.19487188]

>>19486948
>Not revered insanity

[Anonymous No.19487197]

>>19485805
What is that cover art? It looks like a mix between frostpunk and steampunk.

[Anonymous No.19487228]

>>19487197
>frostpunk
The game?

[Anonymous No.19487280]

>>19486609
Nonmen from the Second Apocalypse series.

[Anonymous No.19487284]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-r-r-martin-flew-113700168.html

>"George would fly to New York to have lunch with Plepler, to beg him to do ten seasons of ten episodes because there was enough material for it and to tell him it would be a more satisfying and more entertaining experience," Haas told Miller.

>"Dan and Dave were tired, rightfully so," Haas said in Miller's book. "They were done, and wanted to move on, so they cut it short and then negotiations became, how many seasons can we stretch this out? Because of course HBO wanted more."

>Haas added: "George loves Dan and Dave, but after season five, he did start to worry about the path they were going because George knows where the story goes. He started saying, 'You're not following my template.'"

[Anonymous No.19487290]

>>19486609
Transcending the Nine Heavens by Fenglin Tianxia

[Anonymous No.19487291]

>>19487284
Maybe if he weren't such a lazy fat fuck people would take him more seriously. At least I imagine that's why no one takes me seriously.

[Anonymous No.19487294]

>>19487228
Should be it’s own literary genre.

[Anonymous No.19487304]

>>19487284
>to beg him to do ten seasons of ten episodes because there was enough material for it and to tell him it would be a more satisfying and more entertaining experience,"
Didn't mean jack when he didn't even finish the winds of winter. He's been working on that shit since 2010

[Anonymous No.19487307]

>>19487284
Would sympathize with him had he finish the novels. But since he didn’t, and he took his time with them, I don’t. Seriously the fuck was he thinking?

[Anonymous No.19487312]

>>19487307
In the first draft of Game of Thrones Jon wants to fuck Arya so I know what he was thinking.

[Anonymous No.19487319]

I know people here shit on George for not finishing his story. But, would his story had been better if he did the timeskip as he originally planned?

[Anonymous No.19487325]

>>19487319
the series had too many issues just on premise alone for it to ever end up satisfying

[Anonymous No.19487348]

>>19487312
I think you have it backwards. It was Arya that wanted to sleep with Jon and her being happy that he was actually her cousin and not half-brother.

>>19487319
>But, would his story had been better if he did the timeskip as he originally planned?
I thought he shat the bed when he killed someone fairly important early on. That was what I've heard.

[Anonymous No.19487353]

>>19487325
Nah, the issue was Martin’s autism. The series needed a timeskip. There’s no denying that. Martin, himself, agreed. Saying something like a five year timeskip was needed, until he puss out and went with the mess we know.

[Anonymous No.19487371]

>>19487284
>The HBO series began diverging from Martin's storyline around the end of season four. The show's ending likely didn't "spoil" Martin's own planned ending.
Then what the fuck was the point of doing that retarded question about Jon's mother? At the very least, it means Stannis might not kill Shireen.

[Anonymous No.19487379]

>>19487284
Can /sffg/ honestly name a more terrible adaptation? It’s weird seeing it rise as some cultural juggernaut and fall to the wayside within the decade. Other series still linger, but not a song of ice and fire. That shit dropped off from the face of the earth so quick.

[Anonymous No.19487390]

>>19487379
>Can /sffg/ honestly name a more terrible adaptation?
Depends, Wheels of time might be terrible.

[Anonymous No.19487395]

>>19487379
Cowboy Bebop, Wheel of Time, Shannara, the list goes on

[Anonymous No.19487396]

>>19487284
>You're not following my template
If only they had a novel or two that might have helped them. Anyways, any news on him fucking writing his novels at all? We had covid for two years now.

[Anonymous No.19487401]

>>19487395
Hollywood’s ghost in the shell was downright horrendous. Don’t know what those hacks were smoking.

[Anonymous No.19487404]

>>19487401
>>19487379

[Anonymous No.19487406]

>>19487379
>Can /sffg/ honestly name a more terrible adaptation?
The Cat in the Hat movie.

[Anonymous No.19487411]

>>19487395
>Cowboy Bebop
>Terrible
Explain.

[Anonymous No.19487416]

>>19487379
Dungeons & Dragons (2000 film)

[Anonymous No.19487423]

>>19487416
Forgot the link.
https://youtu.be/3SnA2rv4ros

[Anonymous No.19487426]

>>19487379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fft9DLIp7E

[Anonymous No.19487427]

>>19487423
And to think, Lord of the Rings would come out a year later.

[Anonymous No.19487430]

>>19484532
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.19487431]

>>19487411
Did you watch it? It's terrible.

[Anonymous No.19487435]

>>19487431
Oh fuck, you mean the Netflix garbage. I thought you meant the original.

[Anonymous No.19487453]

>>19487426
Is BBC incapable of making a decent adaptation? Even the Soviet Film industry manages to make better adaptation.

https://youtu.be/iUntFahQUrE

[Anonymous No.19487455]

>>19485365
>but volume 5 just opened with ten hours of the King of Destruction revealed to be friendly grandpa

Noo, he was a highly complexed and flawed character because he likes slavery... Yeah, that got a little monotonous. But to be fair it was still less than 1/5th of the book. I was only disappointed not to see a clown boy or rags chapter.

I know I could read ahead three books online but I'll wait for the audiobooks, because it makes for prefect listening for work, driving or exercising just zone out and flow with the book. 53 hours of quite edible content for 1 audible credit. The text version is literally free. You have to balance your expectations a little. Aba wrights just as much good content in a year as anyone, she just smears it out over 2500 pages/year. A good, demanding editor cutting down 1/3 the content in a skillful way would really benefit the series, but that's not compatible with her publication method and its not something the majority of her readers would accept.

[Anonymous No.19487462]

I want to start reading again so I'm looking at OP guide. How the fuck am I supposed to make out wtf the books are.

[Anonymous No.19487463]

>>19487426
I skipped to episode six and jesus.

[Anonymous No.19487466]

>>19487462
Are you on your phone?

[Anonymous No.19487470]

>>19487466
Yeah. Are links from mega fucked on phone?

[Anonymous No.19487480]

>>19487470
looks like it. Everything is fine on desktop.

[Anonymous No.19487481]

anyone got any good mermaid lore or deep sea monster horror or fantasy books?

[Anonymous No.19487489]

>>19487481
Dead Sea by Tim Curran. Also his short novel Deadlock.

[Anonymous No.19487492]

>>19487462

[Anonymous No.19487504]

>>19487492
>Hybrids
Why not just call it, Science-Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.19487516]

>>19487481
Seconding this >>19487489 Tim Curran is the man you’re looking for.

[Anonymous No.19487520]

>>19481962
Don't listen to the haters, that's a relatively solid list. I would recommend The Way of the Shaman and Reality Benders to be high on the list though. Some of the best stuff is Russian. Not that I've really read any litRPG so overtly woke it made me want to puke, but you can feel the mental restraint some of the western authors have baked in that just holds the stories back.

There are a lot of eastern style cultivation lit rpg books out there, some are ok but in general I would recommend avoiding them.

Also whoever recommended The Perfect Run; fuck you, I'm nine hours in and I honestly cant take it. One of the worst groundhog day stories I have ever had the misfortune to read.

[Anonymous No.19487532]

>>19487520
>Some of the best stuff is Russian
Shame they're never translated. Russia always seems to have the best of these type of books.
>>19487520
>Not that I've really read any litRPG so overtly woke it made me want to puke, but you can feel the mental restraint some of the western authors have baked in that just holds the stories back.
Had the same feeling. It's always nice to see an author fuck up and put woke shit and see his readership and revenue plummet.

[Anonymous No.19487536]

>>19487520
>One of the worst groundhog day stories I have ever had the misfortune to read.
Read Mother of Learning. It’s best Groundhog Day stories out there.

[Anonymous No.19487547]

>>19487481
Relict by D.T. Neal

[Anonymous No.19487557]

>>19487520
>Not that I've really read any litRPG so overtly woke it made me want to puke,
Wait, do self-publish authors really put woke shit in their stories? Then what’s the point of being self-publish?

[Anonymous No.19487562]

>>19487557
The trans shit in ready player 2 was so botched that even the woke mob attacked him for it.

[Anonymous No.19487567]

>>19487562
>ready player 2
That shit got a sequel?

[Anonymous No.19487572]

>>19487567
A fucking movie and a sequel. Ready player one was readable but I can think of a hundred books more deserving of a movie than that.

[Anonymous No.19487576]

>>19487562
>woke mob attacked him for it.
Was bound to happen with the type of poems he makes.
https://youtu.be/Zisve_6MsvM

[Anonymous No.19487581]

Does this actually get good? I choked my way through book one after being recommended it like fifty times and I'm just not really feeling it yet. If the rest is just more of the same I think I wont bother with it.

[Anonymous No.19487582]

>>19487562
>woke mob attacked him for it.
Was bound to happen with the type of poems he makes.
https://youtu.be/LwNOzWXb7RE

[Anonymous No.19487593]

>>19487582
Him being publish actually broke my fair in the publishing industry. I just don’t see how he could have made it, while others, who are more deserving, simply don’t.

[Anonymous No.19487597]

>>19487593
Honestly, the worst part is the people cheering him on. I refuse those are actual people.

[Anonymous No.19487607]

>>19487582
Didn’t he wrote that poem to marry some former porn star?

[Anonymous No.19487613]

>>19487593

It's a rigged game, always has been. It's just way back then the game was more rigged for friends and such and now it's rigged based off ideology.

New York times, all the awards, amazon recommendations and prime free books, they are all designed to pump up woman writers, colored writers and woke writers.

Aleron Kong for instance, except for the last one his books aren't bad. But they are still not all that great either. But he get's so much god dammed astroturfed support because he's a mulatto it's insane.

[Anonymous No.19487621]

>>19487597
He's got normie armies of NPC's reading him. Kind of like Harry Potter light.

They believe the shit they say because they don't know better.

[Anonymous No.19487625]

>>19487613
>Aleron Kong
Should have used N. K. Jemisin. That bitch is astroturfed that even normies and npcs are waking up to that shit.

[Anonymous No.19487634]

>>19487567
A sequel that’s about the same as the prequel.

[Anonymous No.19487637]

>>19487613
>It's a rigged game, always has been.
I don't fault people for self-publishing. You know, at this point, its just so stacked against them, why even try?

[Anonymous No.19487647]

>>19487637
Don't you like giving away 40% to the publisher and another 30% to amazon (or 70% to amazon if it's an audiobook).

I want billionaires to make money off my work. Makes me feel good when Bezos talks about exterminating human life on earth and turning it into a planet sized nature reserve for the billionaire class. (I'm not even exaggerating, this is his stated goal)

[Anonymous No.19487654]

>>19487647
>I want billionaires to make money off my work. Makes me feel good when Bezos talks about exterminating human life on earth and turning it into a planet sized nature reserve for the billionaire class.
Honestly, that shit has the makings of a science-fiction drama.
>(I'm not even exaggerating, this is his stated goal)
Once again, real life is nothing more than a boring mundane cyberpunk dystopia.

[Anonymous No.19487660]

>>19487647
>(I'm not even exaggerating, this is his stated goal)
Source? I refuse to believe someone would say this so brazenly

[Anonymous No.19487661]

>>19487637
Will Wight's first book (House of Blades) has some neat ideas but its generally pretty bad. I can see why he had to self-publish it. Then once he got enough sales for his first book to write a second, why bother with the publishers?

[Anonymous No.19487664]

>>19487661
>why bother with the publishers?
I mean, at the very least, he won't have his books tainted and changed. Also what made his first book bad in the first place?

[Anonymous No.19487671]

>>19487660
He wants Future humanity to be nothing more than wagies.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90347364/jeff-bezos-wants-to-save-earth-by-moving-industry-to-space

[Anonymous No.19487672]

>>19487664
Story beat problems. Characterization problems. There's whole chapters that must've been cut out to make it better paced but he forgot to explain what happened during them. The prose is only so-so but I'm not gonna judge him on that. It really feels incomplete by the time you've finished reading it and not in a "this needs a sequel" kind of way.

[Anonymous No.19487676]

>>19487672
>Story beat problems. Characterization problems. There's whole chapters that must've been cut out to make it better paced but he forgot to explain what happened during them.
Sounds like he should have hired an editor or something.

[Anonymous No.19487682]

haven't read it but thought i'd share.

[Anonymous No.19487688]

>>19487682
Japanese sffg is very underrated.

[Anonymous No.19487693]

>>19487682

[Anonymous No.19487694]

>>19487462
Completely works on my Android phone. I don't know what you're doing for it to not be working

[Anonymous No.19487697]

>>19487693
We should really do a chart or something about Asian sffg.

[Anonymous No.19487698]

>>19487660
https://www.c-span.org/video/?515984-1/jeff-bezos-nasa-administrator-bill-nelson-dni-avril-haines-discuss-us-space-policy

Or if you don't have an hour and a half to watch the bastard opine and just want it ground up and vomited back to you.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/14/jeff-bezos-earth-inhabit-space-vacation-blue-origin/

[Anonymous No.19487699]

>>19487698
Thanks. I’ll probably watch it during the weekend when I have time. It’ll be enlightening.

[Anonymous No.19487702]

>>19487676
An editor cost around 300$ an hour.

[Anonymous No.19487704]

>>19487676
It was interesting reading it after Cradle because he wrote 8 books between House of Blades and Unsouled and yet it really feels like a prototype for Cradle.

Except Cradle took 9 books to go from the hero leaving his home, becoming strong, and coming back (only to be dismissed by his village who only knew him as a weak loser), whereas House of Blades did that whole plot before the third act.

[Anonymous No.19487707]

New thread
>>19487705

[Anonymous No.19487710]

>>19487704
>Except Cradle took 9 books to go from the hero leaving his home, becoming strong, and coming back (only to be dismissed by his village who only knew him as a weak loser), whereas House of Blades did that whole plot before the third act.
How?

[Anonymous No.19487718]

>>19487710
What do you mean how?

[Anonymous No.19487741]

>>19487702
You can get a quite good copy editor for far far less. This could easily be replaced with AI without any real loss.


But a good content or structural editor can take a quite shit story and make it really shine.

I think I could train a version of GPT-J to be a quarter decent structural editor if I could somehow get a decent corpus for it. I would like to build a tool that suggests areas that it predicts highlights areas that thinks needs work and gives serval examples of what it would change it to. You could choose to suppress these, use a suggested edit or use an edit as a starting place that you touch up. This wouldn't completely replace the need for a good content editor for professional grade work but it could reduce the workload on a professional editor and it could really help the budget authors get at least something worth having at an acceptable price.

[Anonymous No.19487764]

>>19487741
>But a good content or structural editor can take a quite shit story and make it really shine.
Yeah, and how much do you think it’ll cost?

[Anonymous No.19488294]

>>19487581
No, retard

[Anonymous No.19488744]

>>19487532
There is tons of translated Russian litrpg. Lots of it feels translated, but you're reading for story, not prose. I've read most of these and they're good: https://mrbookstash.com/litrpg/

[Anonymous No.19488751]

>>19487557
Many Americans just can't help themselves. At a minimum their writing has to be about diversity.

>>19487581
>recommended fifty times
And each one of those there was someone warning you against it. If you don't like the first three you're certainly not going to dead zone in the center of the series.

[Anonymous No.19488830]

>>19487581
> Does this actually get good?

If you did not like the first book, you almost certainly will not like the others.

[Anonymous No.19488842]

Has anyone read this?

[Anonymous No.19488924]

>>19487455
And now the skellington changes pronouns.