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>start with the Greeks
Okay, which of Socrates' books should I start with?

>> No.19471465
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>start with the Greeks
Start with original new testament koine greek

agape is a good word

>> No.19471496

>>19471443
Socrates didn´t write. But Plato wrote about the trial and death of Socrates. Start there.

>> No.19471497

>>19471443
Start with Homer.

>> No.19471579

>>19471465
eros (soul) > agape (soulless)

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>>19471579
ἔρως
egocentric and acquisitive kind of love, needs-based and desire-based
>muh dick

ἀγάπη
self-giving and self-sacrificial kind of love. It is based on God's unconditional love for all creatures
>virtue

>> No.19471596

>>19471593
even the writers of the Bible know God is a more dynamic and interesting character when he's erotic rather than agapic -- hence why they constantly depict him as jealous, possessive, etc.

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>>19471443
Assuming this is not a troll thread (since >>19471496)
Start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_Philosophy_(Copleston)#Volume_1:_Greece_and_Rome
Then read the works it covers.

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>>19471596
>God is a more dynamic and interesting character
Jesus taught agape, he never taught eros.

>> No.19471620

>>19471593
when muh dick and your virtue meet, which one comes out unscathed?

>> No.19471634

>>19471619
I'm talking about the Old Testament God.

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>>19471620
Ask Jesus I guess
>>19471634
>Old Testament God is Hebrew
>Greek thread
>Old testament agpe

But they, our ancestors, became arrogant and stiff-necked, and they did not obey your commands. They refused to listen and failed to remember the miracles you performed among them. They became stiff-necked and in their rebellion appointed a leader in order to return to their slavery. But you are a forgiving God, gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love. Therefore you did not desert them,
Nehemiah 9:16-17

You shall not hate in your heart anyone of your kin; you shall reprove your neighbor, or you will incur guilt yourself. You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against any of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:17-18

Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19

Hebrew love is אהבה which is an action/act of being.

>> No.19471672

>>19471443
Currently reading Plato's collected works. The Socratic dialogues are incredible, but I must say that if I had "started" with them, I would not have been able to appreciate their brilliance.
Also Socrates is funny.