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19460543 No.19460543 [Reply] [Original]

I am absolutely convinced that Jesus is a literary character (and a fine one at that) and that no real person has ever risen from the dead.

>> No.19460547

inb4 hat

>> No.19460553

>>19460543
The evidence is very strong that He did rise from the dead.

>> No.19460556

>>19460543
Give us some arguments for your position so that we may evaluate it

>> No.19460622

>>19460556
Anybody that certain about something that suspicious that happened that long ago no matter who recorded it is an ax grinding hierophant.

>> No.19461268

>>19460543
>the Son of God is a literary character and the Resurrection is an allegory
Wrong.

>> No.19461299

>>19461268
You got me there.

>> No.19461304

>>19460543
Ig it's fine. Whatever insights that the son of God universally sacrificing himself for humanity that you use are already extracted and separated from it but there're still more insights and in any sense you have a vested interest in this. Objective justice etc does come from Christianity. It can come from other religions I suppose, maybe a keen philosophy which puts place holders for some of these things. In any sense it's real and not something you can just make up (in this particular sense). It's simply of more Being to have this happen as it says in the Bible but again there can be other conceptions and we would need some similar conception to get any steps to the modern age.

>> No.19461336

>>19460543
The consensus among historians is that he probably existed, led some sort of movement against the very unpopular Herodian dynasty and the Roman occupation and was crucified. His depiction on the gospels are a very heavily mythologized account of a real person.

>> No.19461338

>>19460543
Okay OP. I don't see anything wrong with that. You do you mate.

>> No.19461494

>>19460622
>implying (((modern))) history is somehow more accurate
>implying all of the authors of the NT collaborated to spread lies about Jesus and the miracles He performed
You sound like a kike right now, my guy.

>> No.19461501

>>19460543
It comes from astrology. He is the sun.

>> No.19461523

>>19461336
Based guy who speculates with no real knowledge whatsoever. Various mudane events and random people are mentioned in the gospels. Why? The gospels are historical accounts, not parables or myths.

>> No.19461537

>>19461494
>implying millions of jews can coordinate themselves to produce global lies
>implying the thirty contributors to the bible couldn't
so which is it

>> No.19461564

>>19461523
Do you think Mary was pregnant for 10 years? She would have to be in order to participate in Quirinius' census (happened when king Herod was already dead, by the way).

>> No.19461566

>>19461537
Are you stupid bro? Most kikes don't do any plotting, they just carry out orders from their masters.

>> No.19461581
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19461581

The same people who thinks it's crazy that a woman could have a penis think a Jew walked on water and was born of a virgin.

>> No.19461603

>>19461581
Can a feminine penis be circumcised in accordance with the covenant or not? What does the book say?

>> No.19461642

>>19461564
You do realize that the details about Quirinius and Herod are much more questionable from a textual perspective than anything written about Jesus right. But it's clear you're just parroting some other retard who is distorting what little evidence we do have. Start with the fact that multiple censuses were conducted by Quirinius. Bet you didn't know that, do you?

>> No.19461696

>>19461642
If you are an American of German ancestry and Germany is holding a census do you have to travel to Germany to participate in the census? NO! its a fucking plot device.

>> No.19461707

>>19461642
>T. parrots what pastor Harold told him instead
Whatever, go worship your kike.

>> No.19461751

>>19461696
Thanks for revealing that you have no idea how recordkeeping worked in the Roman empire.

>>19461707
Aw based, another dumb nigger who doesn't realize the difference between ancient and modern jews. Kys

>> No.19461752

>>19461642
>You do realize that the details about Quirinius and Herod are much more questionable from a textual perspective than anything written about Jesus right.
Lmao no. We know of the census of Quirinius from Josephus, who the author of of Luke depended on as a source,

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>>19461751
>M-muh ancient Jews are not the same Jews
Semites are all the same. Just admit you worship kikes and live according to their rules.

>> No.19461791

>>19461751
>the difference between ancient and modern jews
Have you read the Old Testament?

>> No.19461797

>>19461642
>>19461752
>Start with the fact that multiple censuses were conducted by Quirinius. Bet you didn't know that, do you?
Also, Quirinius was appointed legate of Syria in 6AD (the same date that Herod was deposed). So again, multiple censuses don't get around the problem of Mary having to have been pregnant with Jesus for years to have moved because of a census held by Quirinius.

>> No.19461839

>>19461773
Did ancient Jews follow the Talmud or not? Did Jesus criticize the Pharisees or not? You're an idiot.

>>19461791
What are you implying? You do realize that Jesus's death changes literally everything about people's relationship with God, correct?

>> No.19461884

>>19461797
Quirinius held high positions in the govt before 6AD that certainly would have placed him in charge of a census. The original greek text of Luke supports that. But again, thanks for revealing that you're just parroting someone else.

>> No.19461893

>>19461494
>implying all of the authors of the NT collaborated to spread lies about Jesus and the miracles He performed
Of course they did. Are you retarded?

>> No.19461955

Worshipping Jesus is idolatry. Return to Hashem.

>> No.19462659

>>19461581
You're just a faggot.

>> No.19462700

>>19461893
Doesn't even make sense considering there are historical accounts of Jesus outside of the NT. Unless you think the Roman historians were also collaborators. But stay retarded, my guy.

>> No.19462816

>>19462700
>it doesn't make sense that cult members agreed on their narrative or that outsiders were aware of their cult
huh?