The nature of reality is suffering.

[Anonymous No.19451076]

I just realized this. No matter what you do, you are causing suffering. Even if you go into the forest and only eat berries, that berry could of been eaten by a starving animal, that will now die a slow painful death because you ate a berry.
In order to survive you must kill others, in order for you to be happy, others must suffer.
Everyone has blood on their hands. Saints are just people who like to convince themselves their hands are blood free.


who are some writers that agree or disagree with me? I want my bleak and brutal world view to be challenged. Either by anons or someone who writes for a living.

[Anonymous No.19451107]

>>19451076
>Even if you go into the forest and only eat berries, that berry could of been eaten by a starving animal, that will now die a slow painful death because you ate a berry.
That’s not true, there’s plenty of berries in the forest. And even if there weren’t I could share with my fellow herbivore.
>In order to survive you must kill others, in order for you to be happy, others must suffer.
>Everyone has blood on their hands. >Saints are just people who like to convince themselves their hands are blood free.
Edgy

[Anonymous No.19451111]

>>19451107
>That’s not true, there’s plenty of berries in the forest. And even if there weren’t I could share with my fellow herbivore.


now you're just resorting to lying to yourself. you know very well there aren't enough berries in the forest.

[Anonymous No.19451146]

>>19451076
touch grass niqqa

[Anonymous No.19451199]

>>19451076
It's easy to debunk you.
Reality has no nature.
A part of reality is suffering.

[Anonymous No.19451203]

>>19451076
Schopenhauer

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Studies_in_Pessimism/On_the_Sufferings_of_the_World

Also pessimism is ancient, see ‘Dialogue of Pessimism’ from 1,000BC

[Anonymous No.19451210]

>>19451076
Oh also the Buddhists obviously

[Anonymous No.19451323]

>>19451203
>Dialogue of Pessimism

thank you a lot this seems like it'll be a really fun read. I hope its long

[Anonymous No.19451353]

>>19451076
Congratulations on your 12th birthday

[Anonymous No.19451501]

>>19451353
why do you make fun of me

[Anonymous No.19451518]

>>19451501
Umm, because in this brutal and harsh world it’s either mock or be mocked.

[Anonymous No.19451540]

>>19451076
welcome to buddhism, we hope you neither enjoy nor non-enjoy your stay

[Anonymous No.19451597]

>>19451540
>we hope you neither enjoy nor non-enjoy your stay

this wasn't the point of my thread at all. Im not saying that everyone has to suffer, im saying that in order to be happy, someone else has to suffer. What im trying to say is that its impossible to live without hurting others, the foundation of life as organic beings is bloodshed. Only when you are not eating can you say that you are not harming anyone. The only "good" thing a person can truly do, is kill themselves. I have no intention of being good im just saying.

[Anonymous No.19451621]

>>19451597
>reddit-spacing
didn't read. try nietzsche or some shit

[Anonymous No.19451680]

>>19451597
>this wasn't the point of my thread at all. Im not saying that everyone has to suffer
? His post wasn't saying that either. Just recommending buddhism to you as a worldview that argues the fundamental nature of reality is suffering.

[Anonymous No.19451764]

>>19451076
>Saints are just people who like to convince themselves their hands are blood free.
Saints consider themselves the greatest of sinners

[Anonymous No.19451767]

Life is a swelling tumour, death the bursting of a boil.

[Anonymous No.19451779]

>>19451111
>now you're just resorting to lying to yourself. you know very well there aren't enough berries in the forest
Then how is the forest full of berry eating animals?

[Anonymous No.19451782]

>>19451076
https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=U3N4Q5U2L9FJY

donate and I will keep trying to fight the evil system we all live under

[Anonymous No.19451787]

>>19451597
>Only when you are not eating can you say that you are not harming anyone
Your body is neutralizing and killing alien organisms inside you non-stop

[Anonymous No.19451788]

>>19451111
If life is suffering, isn’t not having enough food and dying actually a good thing?

[Anonymous No.19451887]

>>19451764
if being a saint is just being evil whilst embracing it then cool i guess.
then again evil and good are both just normie topics my bad.
>>19451779
think about it.
>>19451787
as far as we know, small organisms dont feel pain. but if they did, then yes you're right. even not eating is "bad" (according to normie's own moral system (if they actually had one))

>>19451788
im not saying life IS suffering. im saying to live is to make others suffer.

[Anonymous No.19451896]

>>19451887
What is living if not to life itself?

[Anonymous No.19451910]

>another stealth anti-natalism thread
So why haven't you killed yourself?

[Anonymous No.19451917]

>>19451597
What made you arbitrarily designate "good" and "bad" into this warped definition?

[Anonymous No.19451948]

>>19451597
>foundation of life as organic beings is bloodshed
The foundation of life as organic beings is sacrifice*. Saying bloodshed makes you sound like a poorly read edgelord. A lot of world traditions acknowledged this.
However, there is purifying benefit in minimizing sacrifice in life as Buddhists and Zoroastrians both argued.
>The only "good" thing a person can truly do, is kill themselves.
The Jains have a ritual called Sallekhana which involves starving in the woods due to similar but more thorough views as yours. By doing Sallekhana they argue they purify all karma.
> I have no intention of being good
I can tell, which is why I believe people like you should be sacrificed first and foremost.
Intentions are important. If you have no intention to be good, then you truly do not deserve to live. Thus, sacrificing *your* life is fundamentally good.