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I was talking to an ex friend and called larkin's poetry degenerate (and i used that word). My friend accused me of being too 4chan irl and said that degeneracy isn't a valuable critique.
Degeneracy is an absolutely valuable critique for a work of art. Why would you think otherwise?

>> No.19445866

>>19445862
tbf it's a nazi term and should only be used ironically

>> No.19445871

>>19445862
Say he's too twitter irl

>> No.19445876

>>19445866
What about calling somebody too 4chan irl? Isn't that just redditism?

>> No.19445898

>>19445862
Nothing is more degenerate than fourchin users >>19445887

>>19445871
You were going to write “reddit” weren’t you

>> No.19445907

>>19445866
No it isn't

>> No.19445913

>>19445866
Here's a word I'm using unironically

You are a FAGGOT.

>> No.19445925

>>19445862
>called larkin's poetry degenerate
why

>> No.19445934

>>19445925
It's filled with cuck repression and silent cope, and the offensiveness of it stems from that repression.

>> No.19445947

>>19445866
I find it a useful term, I am degenerate myself anyway

>> No.19445957

>>19445862
Dali’s art is degenerate but I still like it. So yes it’s not a valuable critique.

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>>19445957
Sure it is...compare Dali to the performance art mattress girl made (e.g. fucking a fat guy and uploading it to pornhub under the guise that it's a commentary on toxic masculine sexuality). You can critique both in terms of their degeneracy and roll into a discussion about whether one actually has redeemability or at least depth of theme/idea.

>> No.19446367

>>19445862
>frogposter
>phoneposter
>jpg with transparency checkers
not reading

>> No.19446387

>>19445862
Good job he is an ex friend then

>> No.19446492

>>19445898
No I meant twitter because twitter is worse than reddit.

>> No.19446667

>>19445862
>Why would you think otherwise?
Nihilism and moral relativism, aka evil

>> No.19446677

>>19445862
I here pretty normie internet people on youtube use it all the time though.

>> No.19446688

>>19445907
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

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I'm reading Larkin's letters rn and they're really comfy.

>> No.19446833

>>19446688
ae you fucking retarded? the word degeneracy and use in reference to art predate national socialism

>> No.19446857

>>19445934
>cuck repression and silent cope
You're being too 4chan again. Rephrase it without resorting to buzzwords. I know you can do it. With some practice you will be able to pull it off irl as well

>> No.19446858

>>19445934
So your only criticism is 4chan memes. What else, he dilates?

>> No.19446863

>>19446492
t. reddit

>> No.19447622

>>19446858
Faggot

>> No.19447691

>>19445866
Get a load of this dickshitter

>> No.19447696

>>19445866
Brainlet

>> No.19447705

>>19445862
Larkin wrote one of the greatest poems ever crafted about the defense of tradition and heritage, though ('Church Going').

>> No.19447718

>>19445862
If you learn how to appreciate poetry before you criticise it you'll enjoy life more, become more interesting and well-read, you won't lose friends, etc. Poetry deserves as much appreciation as you can give it.

>> No.19447892

>>19447705
No

>> No.19447901

>>19445862
You are beyond hope

>> No.19447904

>>19446357
Wow, you just said a lot of nothing.

>> No.19447983

>>19445862
Your ex-friend is wrong because degeneracy is a perfectly valid criticism of a work of art.

However, you also are wrong, because Larkin's poetry isn't really degenerate. It's many things, but not that.

Is your ex-friend an ex-friend because of this incident? If so, you're both extra wrong for allowing such an absurd disagreement to affect your relationship.

>> No.19448044

>>19446863
t. twitter

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Check out pic rel for some real degen /lit

>> No.19448167

>>19446833
>>19446858
>>19447705
>>19447718
>>19447901
>>19447983
I'm not really too 4chan irl. Look at how many anons defend literal degeneracy.
Think about how many people try out degenerate acts that become habits because faggots like larkin normalize them in shitty poems, then anons cope, acting like they're any bit normal, thereby convincing others to engage in his degeneracy with him.
Sad!
I'm happy i let that faggot friend go.

>> No.19449171

>>19446833
Yes, but "Degenerate Art" is uniquely nazi term. Have reading comprehension, faggot

>> No.19449192

>>19448167
You sound like an absolute moron. That guy is way better off without you