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Just got these today. I now have the first five Foxfire books. Bottom book, in case you can't read it, is "The Unnrealists" by Harvey Wickham, 1930 edition. He basically "well actually's" a bunch of people, including Einstein, in an entertaining fashion. I look forward to reading that.

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>>19424506
Nice

>> No.19424880

>>19424522
Indeed. Always looking for vintage stuff.

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>>19424506
Braudel is one of my fav. Historians,

Published Historian here

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>>19424911
More books, about to build a 10' x 9' built in to house the office books.

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>>19424506
Got these today.

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remove the stickers you goddamn slobs

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>>19424911
based

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The books in my TBR:
>Tropic of Cancer
>Fear and Trembling
>Confessions
>Mrs Dalloway
>Consolation of Philosophy

>> No.19425926

>>19425914
>Confessions
Augustine or Rousseau?

>> No.19425940

>>19425926
Augustine

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Getting into philosophy, how’s this list recommended by dr sadler

>> No.19426535

>>19425914
Lots of Henry Miller on lit lately. I like it

>> No.19426894

>>19424911
>Braudel is one of my fav. Historians
I've heard only good things. Can't wait to dig into the book a got. Probably not this year, though. So I guess I can wait.

>> No.19426911

>>19426528
>wollstonecraft but no kant, schopenhauer, hegel

>> No.19426983

>>19426528
I don't think it's necessary to ingest so many different philosopher's works. It's only when you've settled on a philosophy and taken it to heart that it begins to work you. Shopping around indefinitely will leave you indefinitely in doubt.

>> No.19426990

>>19426983
work *for you

>> No.19427022

>>19426983
>he reads books for answers and not to refine his own questions
Unironically you should never have been taught how to read

Currently finishing up some very tedious popsci about quantum mechanics that doesn't deserve to be named

>> No.19427029

>>19426911
It’s for beginners I guess

>> No.19427042

>>19427022
My questions were already good enough, so I found the right philosophy on my own and read books that validated it. Get on my level, faggot.

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Working on this from top to bottom after experiencing that psychoanalytic itch

>>19424911
Impeccable stack honestly I'm jealous. It's been really hard in my city (Dublin) to find old leatherback editions of classics. I really want to someday to find an old edition of Kant but maybe im looking in the wrong places

>> No.19427260

>>19427242
Started listening to "Modern Man in Search of a Soul" (Jung) at work today. Sold me on dream analysis. Not that I needed much of a push, but it actually seems important now.

>> No.19427398

>>19427260
May I suggest the forgotten language by erich fromm as a great starting point. I have become enamoured with the concepts of patriarchal and matriarchal principles in anceint greek myth and tragedy. Really shifted my perspective on the history and future of western civilization

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My university library was handing out old German books for free today. I got these.
The Goethe, Eich and Kafka books are biographies.

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>>19427628
The dictionaries have this cool note which says the publisher got permission from the American military government in Berlin to publish the books.

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>> No.19427976

>>19427398
You may, and I may take your suggestion.

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Got Thus spoke Zarathustra and the one on aesthetics today. The owner is an old commie (I'm positive) and when I asked him if he had anything on Art theory/frankfurt school and he gave some a Marx/Engels book on art lol. Thought that was cute of him.
Got Gothic violence fairly recent as well.

>>19424506
>Outdoor survival skills
nice man

>>19427242
>can't find Notes from the underground and the Idiot.

>>19426528
>>19426911
yeah, definitely need Kant in there
>>19427842
>autobiography of malcom X
not based.

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>>19424506
Posted this in the other thread. My tbr and current reads.

>> No.19428479

>>19426528

1/1

If you're serious about getting into philosophy, jumping through these works won't do much for you.

You should read the pre-socratics a bit before Plato. And from Aristotle the most important part is his metaphysics which was the base upon which christianity built their cosmological world view until the end of the middle ages, that's how important it was (also neoplatonism like Plotin that tries to reconcile aristotle with plato since their philosophies are opposed in a fair measure).

After that you can read a bit on stoicism / epicureanism / skepticism / cynicism. These were the currents that appeared after Greece exited its golden age and people tried to cope with reality -> the currents I just mentioned above (epicureanism, etc).

Then there's the philosophy which was the foundation of christianity (St. Augustine took neoplatonic + aristotelic ideas to create the theoretical frame of christianity. He also had to fend off against multiple branches of religious thought. But if you're not interested in religion particularly it's skippable.

Then you have the middle ages philosophers (in your list: boethius, anselm, thomas aquinas). They're not that essential I would say. Most of the middle ages philosophy is about interpreting the works of aristotle / plato and about logic (scholasticism especially).

Rene descartes's historical period was the scientific revolution. He tried to find a rational ground / a foundation for knowledge (by trying to find out what is the one thing of which we can be certain that it exists). From there he builds his whole philosophy, but he's also using God as a part of his system (coming from the middle ages, this is an attempt to concile science with religion in a sense). Scientific revolution happened and Aristotle's cosmological view fell from grace (that the earth is the center of the universe). Science contradicted that based on empirical observations -> Descartes comes and supports the new science by showing that we can be sure of empirical observations.

But here the list starts to lack even more heavily because you cannot reasonably read Descartes without reading Spinoza and Leibniz. After that we have empiricists like John Locke and David Hume which hit back at rationalists like Leibniz / Spinoza. Then after Hume we have one of the most important philosophers of all time (on par with Plato and Aristotle): Immanuel Kant. Maybe he's not in that list because it's a fairly difficult philosopher.

Continuing, I got no clue why mary Wollstonecraft is there. She's some kind of proto-feminist, but if you really want to read about the philosophical grounds of feminism I recommend you start with Simone de Beauvoir.

Then you have a jump all the way to Nietzsche without even mentioning other philosophers like Schopenhauer or Hegel (Hegel is pretty difficult as well, maybe that's why it's not on the list and there's a plethoa of philosophers leading up to him as well).

>> No.19428486

>>19424506
Respect for Braudel dood.

>> No.19428498

>>19427824
What do you think of Bulgakov and Florensky?

>> No.19428505

>>19428479

2/2

Then after Nietzsche you don't have any mention of Marx or the more "recent" philosophy of the last century (see existentialism: Sartre, Merleau-Ponty, Simone de Beauvoir as well which was mentioned).

After existentialists there are structuralists / post-structuralists like Foucault (this one's fairly important). You have Jacques Derrida with deconstructivism (though he doesn't like it to be called like that).

If you're into psychiatry you have Sigmund Freud, which founded it. Then Carl Jung, then Lacan.

Bro there's so many philosophers not mentioned on that list that are important. You get just a few of these philosophers there and from these few, only a crumb of their work, which isn't even the important part of their philosophy.

Read the sticky on /lit/, there's a link to mega folder and you have huge philosophy charts there.

Start with the greeks (with Homer preferably).

>> No.19428524

>>19428505

Correcting psychatry to psychoanalysis*.

>> No.19428854

>>19428505
Thanks anon preciate it

>> No.19428901

>>19428498
i havent started thoses 2 yet
but I have read Bulgakov's "Sophia: The Wisdom of God" and liked it alot. Don't be put off by some of the sensationalist blurbs publishers put on the back

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>>19427644
nice inclusion of the bbq sauce

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>>19425162
The book has taught me a great deal about wood movement

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>>19428380
>Outdoor survival skills
Everyone should have a book like that, and actually try some of the stuff in it.

>>19428486
>Braudel
I'm always on the hunt for good and relevant history books. Got any other authors you think deserve a shout out? Here's some of my shelf.

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>>19426528
I think you need hume, Hegel, burke and mill, but that's the historian in me. Schopenhauer is just fun.

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>>19427242
Thanks, I picked that up in 2006 off eBay for 5 bucks.

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>>19429916
>my shelf
And the rest

>> No.19429937

>>19427628
That red history of the world book looks pretty good, read it.

>> No.19429947

>>19428387
Fuck said, he's mistaken and unfair to Europeans and I have the archival evidence to prove it.

I have a first edition of the road

>> No.19429958

>>19428387
Why is that Fellowship of the Ring so thick? Is it printed for the legally blind?

>> No.19429959

>>19428479
You're bright,but I think he also needs a guide, like Ernst cassierer or Jonathan Israel,or Anthony la vopa

>> No.19429963

>>19424506

Have you sired those children yet? No, you haven't. Get on that.

>> No.19429978

>>19429916
I knew Peter gay and his wife, his students are my mentors, if you like Relevant, check out the practical types, like Elizabeth Eisenstein and Robert darnton, their works on the printing press and encyclopedia are great

Eugen Weber is awesome for readable, day to day, french history on a modernization tract.

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>>19429963
I have two and three is baking. I read the charterhouse of parma to make them sleep.

>> No.19429992

>>19429963
Robin Hood picture book was acquired with them in mind.

>>19429978
Thanks, man.

>> No.19429999

>>19429916
I bet you'd also like Tim Snyder s bloodlands. It's pretty good, but I hate that quaker fuck.

>> No.19430015

>>19429999
>Tim Snyder s bloodlands
Nah, thanks, though.