/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19418095]

Most ridiculous recepient?

[Anonymous No.19418102]

Nobels are worthless except for the science prizes

[Anonymous No.19418105]

>>19418095
oBUMa

[Anonymous No.19418124]

>>19418102
all prizes are worthless

[Anonymous No.19418148]

>>19418095
kinda funny how everyone who gets this ends up getting the peace prize ends up being implicated in mass murder

>menachem begin
>kissinger
>aung san suu kyi
>obongo
>liu xiaobo (basically supported every american war including vietnam, afghanistan, and iraq)
>abiy ahmed

[Anonymous No.19418158]

>>19418148
*kinda funny how everyone who gets the peace prize ends up being implicated in mass murder

[Anonymous No.19418219]

>>19418148
It fits well with Nobel himself

[Anonymous No.19418357]

>>19418095
I think Colson Whitehead is going to win it someday and it will piss off this board.

[Anonymous No.19418384]

>>19418357
too mainstream and lowbrow. why give it to him when they can just find some other irrelevant author from tanzania or something

[Anonymous No.19418386]

>>19418105
Even Barry knew it was ridiculous

[Anonymous No.19418395]

>>19418095
Obama

[Anonymous No.19418895]

>>19418095

Kissinger, Obama, the other Vietnam guy, Arafat. The peace prize is illegitimate and void.

In literature, I'd say Par Lagerkvist just because I read The Dwarf once and it was stupid.

[Anonymous No.19418897]

>>19418095
For the Peace Prize (which most people are focusing on) you could randomly select any 5 of them over the last 50 years and at least 2 would be retarded.

For literature, Bertrand Russell and Bob Dylan stick out weirdly on the list. The most recent laureate that was clearly entirely political (and it wouldn't at all be a surprise if his winning came out to be due to bribery or something) is Mo Yan (2011). Yeah, there are plenty of others that were politically fashionable when they won but Mo Yan is that as well as a huge reach to be included.

[Anonymous No.19418901]

Thomas Mann for sure

[Anonymous No.19418926]

>>19418095
Probably Churchill, some have said he was a good writer but it just doesn't make sense with what they seem to value.
>>19418148
The nobel peace prize is shit, everyone knows that. The only relationship it has with the literature nobel is the name.

[Anonymous No.19418970]

>>19418095
I'd like to say Dario Fo, but at least Fo knew he was a clown and didn't pretend to be otherwise. And he was a good clown. Meanwhile, some other recipients...

[Anonymous No.19418976]

>>19418926
>Probably Churchill, some have said he was a good writer but it just doesn't make sense with what they seem to value.
It should have been Hitler.

[Anonymous No.19418996]

>>19418095
I couldn't choose. They are all equally ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.19419006]

For literature, it's Dylan, and it's not even close.

[Anonymous No.19419029]

>>19419006
How is this Louise Gluck poem, one of her most famous, better than Visions of Johanna?
Please explain.

[Anonymous No.19419054]

>>19418095
reminder that nobel is about works that make a contribition to humanity (whatever that is) not about pure literature magnificence.

[Anonymous No.19419085]

>>19418148
It's serves no purpose beyond allowing the Norwegian Nobel Committee to state that they think some given controversial high-profile personality is actually a great fellow.

[Anonymous No.19419090]

>>19419006
you wanted a white man you got one

[Anonymous No.19419091]

>>19418897
>The most recent laureate that was clearly entirely political (and it wouldn't at all be a surprise if his winning came out to be due to bribery or something) is Mo Yan (2011).
Alexievich is also up there.

Don't ask me why I read Alexievich.

[Anonymous No.19419138]

>>19418897
>The most recent laureate that was clearly entirely political (and it wouldn't at all be a surprise if his winning came out to be due to bribery or something) is Mo Yan
You think so? I would think the opposite is true. The Swedish academy seems to dislike authoritarian governments in general and the Chinese government in particular and that's something they have taken into account when giving the award in the past. Seeing that Mo Yan seems to be okay with the Chinese government you'd think that would have discouraged fthem to give him the award.
>>19419091
Is she not good? She's very easy to find in my city so I was thinking of reading one of her books.

[Anonymous No.19419422]

>>19419091
>Alexievich
I almost mentioned her but I haven't read her writing so it wouldn't have been fair.
>Don't ask me...
Is it the same reason I've forced myself to read Atwood? (She's one of the most well-known authors from my country--disliking her is heresy so you better be able to back up a contrary opinion in being able to show you've done the work).
>>19419138
The reaction to China's prominence has been morphing and shifting rapidly over the past decade--criticism is freer now than it was when Yan was awarded the prize. (We all know how China will bluster over even the smallest, real or perceived, slight). Thereby, awarding Yan the prize validates the idea that the it is truly international (woke values) and keeps them from bitching. Further, Yan was a safe choice as he kowtows and offers vocal support to the CCP alongside being held up as a premier literary figure by them going back to the 80s,

[Anonymous No.19420119]

>>19418897
>Another source of criticism was a perceived conflict of interest on the part of Göran Malmqvist, who is one of the members of the Swedish Academy. Malmqvist had translated several of Mo Yan's works into Swedish and published some through his own publishing house. Mo had also written a laudatory preface to one of Malmqvist's own books, and been a close friend of Malmqvist's wife for 15 years. The Nobel committee denied that this constituted a conflict of interest, and said that it would have been absurd for Malmqvist to recuse himself.

[Anonymous No.19420146]

>>19419091
Svetlana is good tho

[Anonymous No.19420162]

>>19418996
I’d say the science prizes are usually deserved

[Anonymous No.19420204]

>>19419090
I wanted an author, not some kitschy folk rock musician.

[Anonymous No.19420209]

>>19420162
Every choice is politically motivated to further some kind of narrative.

[Anonymous No.19420210]

>>19418148
Dude invented dynamite and firearms. Makes sense desu

[Anonymous No.19420232]

>>19420209
Give me an example

[Anonymous No.19420235]

>>19420204
It they were gonna give it to a folk musician, they should have given it to Leonard Cohen desu.

[Anonymous No.19420239]

>>19420232
Ernest Hemingway to make people think bad writing is good.

[Anonymous No.19420321]

>>19420239
Of a science award I meant

[Anonymous No.19420387]

>>19420321
I don't really pay attention to the Nobel Prize winners so I don't really know everyone who won and for what, but it stands to reason that an organisation that confers worldly prestige such as the Nobel Committee wouldn't be above using that power to influence minds, etc.

[Anonymous No.19420404]

>>19420387
you browse /x/ don't you?

[Anonymous No.19420406]

>>19420404
Why?

[Anonymous No.19420418]

>>19420387
based schizo poster

[Anonymous No.19420419]

>>19420387
Of course they would

[Anonymous No.19420672]

>>19420119
Figures. Thanks for the info anon.

[Anonymous No.19420696]

>>19418095
Bob Dylan.
I'd have understood Leonard Cohen who also wrote a couple of novels and poetry books and whose writings have almost constantly been excellent.
But Dylan has been irrelevant for at least thirty years.

[Anonymous No.19420700]

>>19418095
Out of the recent Laureates I've read Alice Munro and Patrick Modiano. Honestly, didn't seem special to me.
Not that their writing is bad, it's just not special.

[Anonymous No.19421162]

>>19418148
>Martti Ahtisaari

Legend, zero blemishes. Widen your view dumbass.

[Anonymous No.19421443]

>>19419090
>jew
>white

[Anonymous No.19421485]

>>19421443
Yes.

[Anonymous No.19421541]

>>19420696
>Irrealivant
I agree except that he signed a partnership with Starbucks which could be seen as performance art--demonstrating how the cultural ethos of the Boomers was about cashing in and selling out. One of the albums was even called "Live at the Gaslight '63"

Fucking boomers.

[Anonymous No.19421595]

Louise Gluck writes like an undergraduate feminist, no idea why she got a nobel. Same with Dylan, why he and not Ashberry.

[Anonymous No.19422665]

>>19420321
Oh for science it's easy
Cosmology keeps getting awards despite being worthless while actual scientific advancements that sound less cool but improve the lives of everyone almost never get recognised